Anyone know anything about this?

[Monker]

No Monker, I didn't make it up, but I don't have a link because the article was emailed to me. I don't even know what this news organization is. My only reason for posting it was to get information about it, but as usual, I got more flack than fact.

I had no reason to KNOW it wasn't true because even Neal's fans have complained about his lack of commitment to the band they call Journey.

Whatever. You're full of it.

I once read a report that Steve Perry is gay and has AIDS. Perhaps you should look into the truth of that rumor instead of worrying about Journey.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I once read a report that Steve Perry is gay and has AIDS.

That's really not all that big of a pill to swallow for these folks.

They already completely buy into the Perry degenerative hip theory, so what's one more bogus life-debilitating canard to repose their absolute faith in?

[Andrew]

I had no reason to KNOW it wasn't true because even Neal's fans have complained about his lack of commitment to the band they call Journey.

Even I have to step in here....speaking personally to Neal says this is just not true in any way....

[ohsherrie]

I had no reason to KNOW it wasn't true because even Neal's fans have complained about his lack of commitment to the band they call Journey.

Even I have to step in here....speaking personally to Neal says this is just not true in any way....

And that's all I wanted, an honest answer.

[ohsherrie]

No Monker, I didn't make it up, but I don't have a link because the article was emailed to me. I don't even know what this news organization is. My only reason for posting it was to get information about it, but as usual, I got more flack than fact.

I had no reason to KNOW it wasn't true because even Neal's fans have complained about his lack of commitment to the band they call Journey.

Whatever. You're full of it.

I once read a report that Steve Perry is gay and has AIDS. Perhaps you should look into the truth of that rumor instead of worrying about Journey.

I don't know why you're getting so defensive and hostile, but get over it.

[jrnyjetster]

OhSherrie, I have a question for you....

Will you even listen to GENERATIONS (when released), from a band they call JOURNEY?

[Liz22562]

If Neal left Journey - I would imagine that Journey would definitely end. I view Mr. Schon as "the mother ship". He's been through every 'reincarnation' that the band has been through.

Steve Perry's voice left a wonderful mark in the world of Journey...but for Neal to leave would surely end it. He's the 'force' behind it all.

Neal most definitely has a VERY strong fan base (from all the reading that I have done) and I've not seen anything printed that would lead me to believe they are unhappy with his decisions.

This all, of course, is MHO.

I will now return to lurk mode....

[Rockindeano]

Jesus...I just stop in briefly now, because of "youknowwho." A couple of points.

Andrew, it's about time you stepped in and took the reigns from that idiot. I think he should be on the Stern Show as one of the "wackpackers." Troll takes more than "the piss" if you get my drift.....

[Journeynut]

Jesus...I just stop in briefly now, because of "youknowwho." A couple of points.

Andrew, it's about time you stepped in and took the reigns from that idiot. I think he should be on the Stern Show as one of the "wackpackers." Troll takes more than "the piss" if you get my drift.....

I miss the days when a forum was a place where you could get intelligent discussion and you could separate the facts from fiction, and you could try to verify things you have read or heard without being crucified.

[perryfaithful]

I miss the days when a forum was a place where you could get intelligent discussion and you could separate the facts from fiction, and you could try to verify things you have read or heard without being crucified.[/quote]

I so agree Journeynut! Sadly, This place seems to be "guarded" by a pack of thugs who attempt to limit or disallow conversation of Journey Past. (Some fine years!) One should be able to discuss any portion of the lifespan of Journey without this bullying. Why so paranoid, huh? Not Journey's classiest fans......

[The_Noble_Cause]

I so agree Journeynut! Sadly, This place seems to be "guarded" by a pack of thugs who attempt to limit or disallow conversation of Journey Past. (Some fine years!)

Show me one thread you've created wherein you promoted mature discussion about a particular era of the band or an objective, agenda-free look at an epoch in it's legacy.

One should be able to discuss any portion of the lifespan of Journey without this bullying. Why so paranoid, huh?

I think I speak for everyone here when I say Journey fans are up for an objective look at all or any era of this band. If you want to make a thread about some particular time in the band's history then go right ahead and do so.
Starting a thread entitled "classic Journey" which merely states "The Perry years are all that matter, Neal is satan nanana boo boo" does not, I repeat, does NOT qualify as mature "conversation of Journey Past", ok?


That's just trying to piss people off, which is precisely why you come here anyways.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I miss the days when a forum was a place where you could get intelligent discussion and you could separate the facts from fiction, and you could try to verify things you have read or heard without being crucified.

This obvious forgery didn't require formal verification.
As it is, I am still suprised JSS, Deen, and Andrew took time out to officially repudiate it.
If you actually needed to be told that it was bogus then you should be ashamed of yourself.
"Satriani replacing Neal in Journey."
Get Real

[Monker]

I miss the days when a forum was a place where you could get intelligent discussion and you could separate the facts from fiction, and you could try to verify things you have read or heard without being crucified.

I guess I miss the days when people had brains enough to know obvious BS which doesn't need any comment other then "why did you make this up?"

[perryfaithful]

I think I speak for everyone here when I say Journey fans are up for an objective look at all or any era of this band. If you want to make a thread about some particular time in the band's history then go right ahead and do so.
Starting a thread entitled "classic Journey" which merely states "The Perry years are all that matter, Neal is satan nanana boo boo" does not, I repeat, does NOT qualify as mature "conversation of Journey Past", ok?


That's just trying to piss people off, which is precisely why you come here anyways.

Thanks for arriving immediately and confirming my point!! Do you really need to "speak for everyone?" Do you need to tell me why I am here? Butt out and the place will be fine

[The_Noble_Cause]

Thanks for arriving immediately and confirming my point!!

Your point was that discussion about certain eras of the band is not welcome here. Which is absolutely correct. In fact, if one would take a look at my "Generations News" thread they'd see how you officiously interjected belittleing comments into my thread, ultimately getting it closed. So yes, talk about certain eras of the band isn't welcome here, unfortunately, you are the one that designedly makes it that way.

Do you really need to "speak for everyone?"

It's been my eperience that the majority of Journey fans that post here are fond of most eras of the band (including both Perry and Augeri), so, yes, I do feel I can confidantly speak for a good portion of those here when I say we'd welcome an objective, mature discussion on ANY era of this band that you so choose.
Problem is you don't talk about ANY era of the band. You just subvert threads under the oh-so transparent guise of "celebrating Steve Perry!".

Do you need to tell me why I am here? Butt out and the place will be fine

Why?
So you can have free reign to continue ur propagation of half truths, distortions and all-around lies completely unchecked?
I don't think so.

[yak]

Do you need to tell me why I am here? Butt out and the place will be fine

Nobody needs to tell anybody WHY you....and your shady assortment of good buddies.....are here!! To DISRUPT!! Plain and simple........

Butt out?? WHY? So you can have the place to yourselves? Yeah, right.

You all need to face the fact that Perry is nothing but a washed up memory...and he likes it that way.

[yak]

Do you need to tell me why I am here? Butt out and the place will be fine

Nobody needs to tell anybody WHY you....and your shady assortment of good buddies.....are here!! To DISRUPT!! Plain and simple........

Butt out?? WHY? So you can have the place to yourselves? Yeah, right.

You all need to face the fact that Perry is nothing but a washed up memory...and he likes it that way.

[yak]

I miss the days when a forum was a place where you could get intelligent discussion and you could separate the facts from fiction, and you could try to verify things you have read or heard without being crucified.

Let me take a wild guess.........You miss those good old VH-1 days with those intriguing ice cream threads??


I, for one, have stated facts about your Mr Perry, and I have been the one raked over the coals. Doesn't bother me, though, because I know I printed the truth, and by your reactions, I know it was information you would all rather not have out in the open. Anything negative about Mr Perry MUST stay on the Q T....... Right?

As long as your band of misfits stays around to disrupt good Journey conversation, there won't be any. And you know it....that's why you're here..... :wink:

Why not spend some time teaching your friend ohsherrie the fine art of telling the truth?

[heardonthestreet]

Think about it! If this topic had any merit, would all you Journey, do or die, fans still say that this is only another new lineup for Journey and the show must go on? Don't give me a bunch of bull about it not being possible to replace Neal.

[jrnyman28]

Think about it! If this topic had any merit, would all you Journey, do or die, fans still say that this is only another new lineup for Journey and the show must go on? Don't give me a bunch of bull about it not being possible to replace Neal.

No, I would not. I would listen to the band before I made a decision about it...just like I did after Perry left. However, I think it would be harder to stomach for TWO reasons. 1) Because this would be the 2nd major blow to the lineup, and 2) Because Neal is the only remaining/constant/original member left. Journey was built around Neal, so it would be very difficult to justify Journey continuing without Neal. But I would listen with an open mind first.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Think about it! If this topic had any merit, would all you Journey, do or die, fans still say that this is only another new lineup for Journey and the show must go on?

Funny, I've never encountered any such Journey "do or die" fans. I'd presume bands whose fans are representative of such an attitude would be "Beach boys" or "Lynrd Skynrd" which contain no original members, just members that had tangential relationships at one point or another with original members (now conspicuosly absent).
I have, however, encountered Journey fans that support the band continuing in spite of one particularly indolent member's every attempt to bring it all crashing down.

It's not a "do or die" attitude that we, the fans, espouse, it's as one-time Perry-replacement Kevin Chalfant aptly put it, "at their stage in the game, they have to weigh out their options. Tour without Perry or not tour… that is not a hard decision."

Similarly for countless Journey fans, supporting or not supporting the band due to the egocentric and recalcitrant caprices of ONE member is not a very hard decision.

[heardonthestreet]

Don't let your constant whineing about Perry prevent you from answering a simple question, Fred.

Do you not think that the Perry fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry was left behind, Dave? Honest Injun, I did. The band may have been formed around Neal and Gregg, but being a constant has nothing to do with being needed, imo. More like being needy.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Don't let your constant whineing about Perry prevent you from answering a simple question, Fred.

First you called Yak "Fred", and that didn't stick, so now you're calling me "Fred".
Care to choose a conspiracy theory and actually stick to it ?


Oh, and talking (or as u misnomer it, "whining") about Steve Perry has EVERYTHING to do with answering your question. Maybe you don't know this, but it is directly a result of Perry's track record of fractious behavior that he is out of this band now and that it continues onwards without him. As Neal has repeatedly stated, "The truth of reality is that he has always had an open door and he doesn’t choose to do this anymore."

If Neal, and not Perry, was the one taking ten year breaks, feigning hip injuries, cancelling tours, refusing to get on stage and play...then I would have sincerly hoped somebody would've kicked his obstructionist ass out, too.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Do you not think that the Perry fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry was left behind, Dave? Honest Injun, I did.

Oh I bet.
Kinda like how you gave the new "Generations" album a fair shake before publicly condemning it on this board?
You were the first one on here to bemoan the bands' new album saying it should change it's name to "end in sight".
Despite the fact that nobody had even heard it yet.
Despite the fact that a press release hadn't gone out yet.
Hell, the track names hadn't been released.
Yet somehow now u expect us to conveniently forget that and take ur word for it when you say u gave this band an objective, un-biased "fair listen"?
Riiiiight.

[jrnyman28]

Do you not think that the Perry fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry was left behind, Dave?

I do not think Perry-ONLY fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry left Journey behind.

Honest Injun, I did. The band may have been formed around Neal and Gregg, but being a constant has nothing to do with being needed, imo. More like being needy.

I do not see how that would make Neal 'needy'. And I never said Neal was 'needed'. But I do feel he is an integral part of Journey.

Remember, the first thing I said was I did not think Jounrey could withstand a second major blow to it's line-up.

[PROPERRY]

Do you not think that the Perry fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry was left behind, Dave?

I do not think Perry-ONLY fans gave Journey a fair listen after Perry left Journey behind.

Honest Injun, I did. The band may have been formed around Neal and Gregg, but being a constant has nothing to do with being needed, imo. More like being needy.

I do not see how that would make Neal 'needy'. And I never said Neal was 'needed'. But I do feel he is an integral part of Journey.

Remember, the first thing I said was I did not think Jounrey could withstand a second major blow to it's line-up.

Well Jrnyman, I know you were speaking to HOTS, but I had to jump in here to say that as a huge Steve Perry fan, I DID give Journey a fair chance, after Journey replaced Steve Perry with Steve Augeri.

I attended one of their concerts, and even bought the Arrival cd. I found both the concert & Arrival cd to be just ok to me, it just didn't do anything special for me.

Now I'm NOT saying that to ruffle your feathers, I'm just giving you MY OWN feeling about it. And I bet there were other Perry only fans that did give SA/Journey a chance too, but we will never really know the answer for sure, because some fans here attack,so viciously that MAYBE the Perry Only fans are afraid to post here, for fear they will be pounced on for sharing their OWN feelings. Just a thought.

Lori

[The_Noble_Cause]

as a huge Steve Perry fan, I DID give Journey a fair chance, after Journey replaced Steve Perry with Steve Augeri.

I attended one of their concerts, and even bought the Arrival cd. I found both the concert & Arrival cd to be just ok to me, it just didn't do anything special for me.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I bet there were other Perry only fans that did give SA/Journey a chance too, but we will never really know the answer for sure, because some fans here attack,so viciously that MAYBE the Perry Only fans are afraid to post here, for fear they will be pounced on for sharing their OWN feelings.

I've yet to see anyone on this board bashed or attacked for maturely expressing (and corroborating) their opinion.

[yak]

Think about it! If this topic had any merit, would all you Journey, do or die, fans still say that this is only another new lineup for Journey and the show must go on? Don't give me a bunch of bull about it not being possible to replace Neal.

I do not think Neal can be replaced all that easily. He founded Journey, and he is one amazing guitarist! It wouldn't be the same without Neal. Plus he doesn't take any crap from anybody, and isn't a prima donna that has to be the center of the universe.

By the way, one of your Perry buddies started this topic, so, of course it has no merit. :roll:

[yak]

First you called Yak "Fred", and that didn't stick, so now you're calling me "Fred".
Care to choose a conspiracy theory and actually stick to it ? :roll

The girls are looking for Fred from the old VH-1 board.
"Batfanman" wasn't it?

Monker, if you hear from him, send him over here! Maybe he can tame these desperados. If they haven't permanently damaged him, that is.