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by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:50 am

I don't agree with everything you said yogi, but I do know it's label, not lable.

by **NoMoreTails** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:51 am

Infinity wrote:Nope.It think it was about the number of years since Perry was on a stage.With or without Journey,who cares?He sang live in 1994.

Check out Deano's clarification if mine or amaron's didn't work for ya.

by **Infinity** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:55 am

yogi wrote:Perry is just about the best that has ever been.

Even without Steve, Journey is a good, solid, perfossional, entertaining band.

To me the leadership that is needed has to come from two sources. A better management team. And a lable with some major stroke that will back the band and do everything in their power to get them back to the top.

Back in 1997-1998 with the song 'Remember Me', Journey had the chance to become the next Aerosmith. Their management, and Sony dropped the ball BIG TIME on that one.

They had a GREAT song on a platinum selling CD. It was a classic Infinity/Escape type of Journey song that would of held up and excelled on any Journey album. Millions had this song on a CD and didnt even know it.

They blew it with Remember Me, and then they blew it again with how Arrival was released and marketed. I believe it has NOTHING to do with the players. They all can play. The leadership has to come from management & their record lable.

If a band is broken within itself, no goddamned management can cover up that shit.You can`t get a car into the races if the motor missing.
The current line-up is fucked up.
I believe Neal thinks more and more to what was said in the past:they have a big Harley in the garage but they can`t ride it because Perry has the keys.

by **yogi** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:01 am

Thank you Professor Spell Check!!!!

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:05 am

yogi wrote:Thank you Professor Spell Check!!!!

No problem. Affer corekting Erci, I gots reel good at it.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:35 am

Rockn'deano wrote:So was I. Perry was classy enough to know, he wasn't bringing it every night, so he called it off early in '94.

Oh, so now Perry is classy? After all the shit you said about him, he is suddenly "classy"? :roll:

Rockn'deano wrote:Augeri didn't have ONE good night last year, not one.

So you have a boot of EVERY show, eh? Come on, Dean. Augie himself admits how hard it is to be a singer in Journey, as Perry can attest. The guy had some rough shows, but don't exaggerate the state of Augie's voice or the condition of the band. They are doing fine.

by **Liz22562** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:48 am

Saw Journey last year. Augeri sounded great that night.

by **EightyRock** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:00 am

Those back-up tapes do work wonders.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:03 am

EightyRock wrote:Those back-up tapes do work wonders.

Thanks for your insight! Can't wait until your next bi-annual post.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:06 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Oh, so now Perry is classy? After all the shit you said about him, he is suddenly "classy"?

Don't misconstrue the facts. I still think he is a big asshole. However, with regard to singing in front of major audiences, he had the self respect to step down. I do appreciate that.

Rockn'deano wrote:Augeri didn't have ONE good night last year, not one.

NIG wrote:So you have a boot of EVERY show, eh?

I have 12 now. EVERY one is awful.

NIGGY wrote:Come on, Dean. Augie himself admits how hard it is to be a singer in Journey, as Perry can attest.

Ok, fine. No problem. Perry didn't resort to BS tactics though.

NIGGY wrote: The guy had some rough shows, but don't exaggerate the state of Augie's voice or the condition of the band. They are doing fine.

Exagerrate? Dude, I have been easy on him. You really don't want me to come out and tell all do you?

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:12 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Exagerrate? Dude, I have been easy on him. You really don't want me to come out and tell all do you?

Yeah, actually. I think we all would. Put it out there.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:18 am

Rockn'deano wrote:If he returned, they would absolutely have a hit on the radio, and the question would be, not how many tickets are left at the Greek Theatre, but how many nights are Journey playing at Staples Center?

That's the funniest thing I have read in a long time! Journey with Perry wouldn't even sell out ONE night. You do understand this is 2006, not 1982, don't you?

Infinity wrote:Ha!Wanna bet people will race like crazy to the stadiums to see that?

I take it back. THIS is the funniest thing I have read in a long time! STADIUMS? I live Journey, but even if it was Journey with Perry appearing with Foreigner with Lou Gramm, they still wouldn't sell out a STADIUM. :roll:

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:26 am

Rockn'deano wrote:If he returned, they would absolutely have a hit on the radio, and the question would be, not how many tickets are left at the Greek Theatre, but how many nights are Journey playing at Staples Center?

NIG wrote:That's the funniest thing I have read in a long time! Journey with Perry wouldn't even sell out ONE night. You do understand this is 2006, not 1982, don't you?

Don't laugh too hard. Fuck, are you saying current day Journey with Augeri can outdraw Perry fronted Journey? THAT is the funniest shit I have ever heard.

By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Infinity wrote:Ha!Wanna bet people will race like crazy to the stadiums to see that?

NIGGY wrote:I take it back. THIS is the funniest thing I have read in a long time! STADIUMS? I live Journey, but even if it was Journey with Perry appearing with Foreigner with Lou Gramm, they still wouldn't sell out a STADIUM.

Lou Gramm is fat. Foreigner sucks balls. Journey re-united with SP would far outdraw the recent VH reunion, I guaranfuckintee it.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:44 am

Rockn'deano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Does ANYONE beside the Stones and other huge acts do that anymore?

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:48 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Does ANYONE beside the Stones and other huge acts do that anymore?

Only ones I know of are Stones, Bruce, BJ, McCartney and U2. Wouldn't it be nice to add Journey to this list.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:52 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Does ANYONE beside the Stones and other huge acts do that anymore?

Only ones I know of are Stones, Bruce, BJ, McCartney and U2. Wouldn't it be nice to add Journey to this list.

Yeah, but too much time has passed. Journey could have been big again if Perry had come back in 1992 or so. Even if they had toured behind TBF, they would not have been selling out stadiums or playing two or three shows in big cities. Perry isn't that big of a deal anymore.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:01 am

NealIsGod wrote: Perry isn't that big of a deal anymore.

Maybe this is where we disagree.

EVERY single person I run into, whether they ask about my shirt(no, I don't wear a Journey shirt to appease BT), people always say, "Steve Perry is awesome!" I have to say sadly, dude isn't around anylonger.

I respectfully disagree with you on this.

by **Marabelle** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:09 am

Well now GunsNRoses are selling out! They will spread a wide swatch across America and the world beyond.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:20 am

Marabelle wrote:Well now GunsNRoses are selling out! They will spread a wide swatch across America and the world beyond.

NO WAY. Slash is gone. Buckethead too.

Axle and Roses. Real big band. :roll:

by **jrnyman28** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:35 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Don't misconstrue the facts. I still think he is a big asshole. However, with regard to singing in front of major audiences, he had the self respect to step down. I do appreciate that.

Did Perry ever say he was "stepping down" because he could no longer sing? No. He gave a million other excuses why he could not continue: Toast, bronchitis, getting back with Journey, hip, etc. Thgose were not classy responses, they were lies (If you believe that he was actually stepping down because he could no longer "bring it".)

by **jrnyman28** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:40 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Journey wouldn't be able to schedule consecutive nights because there is no way Perry would be able to sing more than one Journey show in a row...

by **jrnyman28** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:41 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Does ANYONE beside the Stones and other huge acts do that anymore?

Only ones I know of are Stones, Bruce, BJ, McCartney and U2. Wouldn't it be nice to add Journey to this list.

Journey could only have been a part of that list if Perry had not destroyed what they had built over the years.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:45 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Journey wouldn't be able to schedule consecutive nights because there is no way Perry would be able to sing more than one Journey show in a row...

Ok, then how about MULTIPLE nights? Fuckin nitpicker.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:03 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:By the way, I am right. Journey would sell out consecutive nights in large cities.

Does ANYONE beside the Stones and other huge acts do that anymore?

Only ones I know of are Stones, Bruce, BJ, McCartney and U2. Wouldn't it be nice to add Journey to this list.

Journey could only have been a part of that list if Perry had not destroyed what they had built over the years.

Nice...

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:35 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

AMEN!!!!!!-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:38 am

Infinity wrote:
amaron wrote:
Infinity wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

2006 – 1994(last time he toured) = 20?? Wow.
2006 – 1996(last time he recorded) = 20?? Double wow.

I'm sure he meant live with Journey which is what the subject is.

2006 - 1986 = 20.

Nope.It think it was about the number of years since Perry was on a stage.With or without Journey,who cares?He sang live in 1994.

And not to well, have the boots to prove it. 5 of them!!! Not saying he was bad, but for Perry he was.-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:39 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:
We were talking bringing it in a live situation ("greatest hits tour"...), I don't think he brought it on the FTLOSM tour, definitely not consistently.

So was I. Perry was classy enough to know, he wasn't bringing it every night, so he called it off early in '94.

Augeri didn't have ONE good night last year, not one. Yet you all glorify this guy because "he carries on the name." Fuck me, dude is embarrassing and quite frankly, he has to look himself in the mirror and ask himself the tough question. Why are you doing this when you can't?

Yea he did, I have the boots to prove that too!-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:41 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
yogi wrote:Thank you Professor Spell Check!!!!

No problem. Affer corekting Erci, I gots reel good at it.

Iear ya-ERIC :lol:

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:42 am

EightyRock wrote:Those back-up tapes do work wonders.

Bet you there were no tapes used-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:45 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote: Perry isn't that big of a deal anymore.

Maybe this is where we disagree.

EVERY single person I run into, whether they ask about my shirt(no, I don't wear a Journey shirt to appease BT), people always say, "Steve Perry is awesome!" I have to say sadly, dude isn't around anylonger.

I respectfully disagree with you on this.

on the same note, last Journey show, I saw, talking to dude, next to me said, Perry has gotten better with age. Has to tell him it was Augeri singing now.

-ERIC

MR

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