Comments, Beliefs, Agony and Apology

[Mrs H]

Again? I mean here's the proof right under our noses and some people still want to believe it's not true.
Yep,another method is to pop in the 2001 DVD and match it up with the stereo.Seriously,one must be deaf not to hear the identical vocals!

Pitty,you didn't crash any theory.You babbled about some studio you went in - is that a proof?Get real.Do you have an audio track to sustain your case?Maybe we would pay attention if you would come up with something valid,you know what I'm sayin`?

Rusty....Rusty...I feel for you,man.
You need to take this test.Don't be afraid,it's painless and free.
http://deafness.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=deafness&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freehearingtest.com%2Ftest.shtml

Also,you could try removing the wax from your ears.They say "Excessive cerumen may impede the passage of sound in the ear canal, causing conductive hearing loss."

Oh man, please don't make fun of deaf people. The depths to which we have all sunk here is bad enough.

[Infinity]

Oh man, please don't make fun of deaf people. The depths to which we have all sunk here is bad enough.

I was talking to someone else,H.
Are you deaf?

[Mrs H]

Val, go back and read. It was an apology of sorts, until your side started in.. Augeri1 started, rebecca and rusty chimed in, and now we are full blown again.

Congrats.

Hey, if I am so wrong, why must you all keep coming back for asskickings? I need to know how some people can be so fucking stupid?

I also don't know why you keep bringing Lula up. She, just as Perry, is NOT involved with this.

You know, I am not on any "sides" here. Although, my biggest fault is that I will defend Journey no matter what.

Good question about Lula....if you are saying she doesn't agree with you, then it's all good. Then I can stop shaking my head.

Is this an asskicking? Not bad, considering what has transpired in the real world over the past week, this feels pretty painless.

Thanks for the fun, Dean.

[Mrs H]

Oh man, please don't make fun of deaf people. The depths to which we have all sunk here is bad enough.

I was talking to someone else,H.
Are you deaf?

I've worn hearing aids since 1993. I can hear okay with them in. Without them, yeah, I am pretty deaf. I read lips pretty well, so I read Steve's all through the concert, but I can hear the music VERY well. I'm not an expert, but if he lip synchs, he is pretty perfect at it.

Neal is also hard of hearing, all those years of loud music. His daughter wears ear protectors from a gunshop at all the concerts. Just an aside.

[rustygreen]

Again? I mean here's the proof right under our noses and some people still want to believe it's not true.
Yep,another method is to pop in the 2001 DVD and match it up with the stereo.Seriously,one must be deaf not to hear the identical vocals!

Pitty,you didn't crash any theory.You babbled about some studio you went in - is that a proof?Get real.Do you have an audio track to sustain your case?Maybe we would pay attention if you would come up with something valid,you know what I'm sayin`?

Rusty....Rusty...I feel for you,man.
You need to take this test.Don't be afraid,it's painless and free.
http://deafness.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=deafness&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freehearingtest.com%2Ftest.shtml

Also,you could try removing the wax from your ears.They say "Excessive cerumen may impede the passage of sound in the ear canal, causing conductive hearing loss."

Please stop feeling for me. It tickels.

[rustygreen]

Please don't include me in this sublect anymore. I will not answer you. I know the world is flat. Time to move on.

[Infinity]

Please don't include me in this sublect anymore. I will not answer you. I know the world is flat. Time to move on.

If you wouldn't wanna be included you wouldn't be here.Fuuunny guy!

[T-Bone]

C'mon people!!!! How many threads does Andrew have to lock down before some of you get the hint? Let's just drop the useless going nowhere babble and enjoy the music they've made for us.... no matter which side of the Perry/Augeri fence you sit on. He reopened this section with hopes of things staying civil, and yet they seem to be worse than before in many ways. It's pretty sad really....

[A Fire Inside]

Drama...

What's with this "us and them" stuff? Aren't we all Journey fans (on some level)? Can't we all just GET ALONG?

[Mrs H]

C'mon people!!!! How many threads does Andrew have to lock down before some of you get the hint? Let's just drop the useless going nowhere babble and enjoy the music they've made for us.... no matter which side of the Perry/Augeri fence you sit on. He reopened this section with hopes of things staying civil, and yet they seem to be worse than before in many ways. It's pretty sad really....

If you lip synched the HINT to Dean, he would get it right away. Try that.

[MCC620]

[quote="Rockn'deano"][quote="Abitaman"]Give it a rest RD, you made you point to some, others don't see it. Or some like me can see a little back up help MAYBE, but not anything like you think. It is time to move on, some of the only ones who have really supported you are the Perry people. Your "friends" have not gotten behind you. You made your point to some. Next case please.-ERIC[/quote]

Eric, please don't interfere. This doesn't include you.[/quote]

And Infinity the same goe to you...please....this is between us and Deano now.

[Rockindeano]

You know, I am not on any "sides" here. Although, my biggest fault is that I will defend Journey no matter what.

THANK YOU, you just made my point. You guys will defend them no matter what they do! Thats' sad.

Good question about Lula....if you are saying she doesn't agree with you, then it's all good. Then I can stop shaking my head.

She DOES agree. Keep shaking.

Thanks for the fun, Dean.

You're welcome

[Rockindeano]

And Infinity the same goe to you...please....this is between us and Deano now.

Great, then keep Lula the Hell out of it then.

Marci, why are you here? You don't want to even listen to the links..you just want to cheerlead.

[T-Bone]

My post wasn't directed at any one person inparticular. There seems to be alot of troll feeding going on from alot of people

[Rockindeano]

no matter which side of the Perry/Augeri fence you sit on.

Dude, this has nothing to do with Augeri vs Perry. Christ!

[Rockindeano]

Please don't include me in this sublect anymore. I will not answer you. I know the world is flat. Time to move on.

Then get the Hell out of here if you have nothing to say. Christ people, if you don't like it, start another thread! Don't read this one.

[MCC620]

[quote="Rockn'deano"][quote="MCC620"]

And Infinity the same goe to you...please....this is between us and Deano now.[/quote]

Great, then keep Lula the Hell out of it then.

Marci, why are you here? You don't want to even listen to the links..you just want to cheerlead.[/quote]

It's Maria, I did listen, we exchanged pms I disagree with you, you called me names and I'm not bringing Lula into it.

[T-Bone]

It has nothing to do with Christ either, but it does have alot to do with everyone egging each other on. Perry vs Augeri, Augeri vs a tape, whatever... I see where you're coming from and I see where others are coming from, and I'm not taking sides. The personal attacks just need to stop before the board goes bye bye....

[Rockindeano]

For the record Dean I have always liked Lula. We have talked a few times by phone. I will never question the relationship you two have but I feel that because you hate so many of us that you found a way to get to her.

Rusty, I don't hate any of you. I strongly disagree with you if you can call it that. You guys don't even listen to the presentedlinks, and label me a kiio and a cult leader. WTF?

Youknow, if you are all so passionate about Lula and are concerned, then send her a fucking email!

I said I "stole her away from BT" tongue in cheek, Rusty. No, I don't like Back Talk. it serves only one purpose, well two actually. 1) it is good for show dates, and 2) it shows exactly what a board should NOT become. How many Head2heads or Love Threads do you all need? Hey more power to you.

[Mrs H]

no matter which side of the Perry/Augeri fence you sit on.

Dude, this has nothing to do with Augeri vs Perry. Christ!

Naive.
I have already gotten one email from someone wanting to know if it's true and this person is a HUGE Perry fan.
Unfortunately, it will be turned into an A vs P issue, just like everything else does and then this issue will have fallen to depths even lower than any of us have seen before. I am talking drilling into the ocean floor deep.
Sad.

You should stop all this debate here and email J.T. if you have questions/issues about Journey performances. Lol.

[Rockindeano]

You should stop all this debate here and email J.T. if you have questions/issues about Journey performances. Lol.

I have his email. Like he would ever confess to this.

THIS IS NOT AN PERRY V AUGERI THING. STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT SUCH.

[EightyRock]

Deano:
Dude, just send the damn info to Perry's attorney and be done with it. (You do know who he is, right?) If Perry really is still 1/6 of Journey, he will be interested. If he IS interested, he'll get to the truth and God help them all if he does still have a 1/6 interest. If not, no harm, no foul. The attorney I'm talking about isn't going to skewer you for passing along your observations and info on this. You're right, this isn't an Augeri vs Perry. Augeri is the one in question here, along with the rest of the band who is supposed to be performing LIVE. Just put it in the mail, dude, and let the chips fall.
Did I just read a review that said Augeri struggled all the way through Seperate Ways but did Lights PERFECTLY? Hmmmmmmm......

[NealIsGod]

Did I just read a review that said Augeri struggled all the way through Seperate Ways but did Lights PERFECTLY? Hmmmmmmm......

It was WITS, not SW. And he was also 5 rows from the stage and did not mention noticing any fakery. HMMMMMMMMM....

[Liz22562]

Thanks NealIsGod...you took the words right out of my mouth....

[NealIsGod]

Thanks NealIsGod...you took the words right out of my mouth....

I'm just so sick of this whole thing and what has happened to this forum I could vomit. If Drew shuts us down because of Deano's war with all of the BTers who have suddenly decided to "join" us, I'll be pissed.

[cudaclan]

JRNY has worked their ass’ off for 8 years in sweltering heat, high humidity, frigid air conditioning, high pressure, and thin air. They’ve spent long days in airports, and cramped quarters.

You make it seem like they are soldiers. For Christs' sake, they are musicians. And get paid really well. No sympathy from me. deal with it.

Bullshit. How you fight dehydration? Get some xxxxxxx water. i have seen their charter. they get so much bottled water, medicine, soda, beer, et al. Save the dramatics.

A website dedicated to the agenda with unlicensed illegal music can’t be enough; It’s got to continue here without jurisdiction. Where’s the music police, RIAA when needed?

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Journey has endured a longer span than 8 years under those conditions. The band members (past & present) were placed in extreme conditions. In the 80’s, Journey had some luxurious amenities due to the era. The Journey of today started from county fairs, small venues … we have not forgotten these venues. Nor have we forgotten the toll of “being on the road”. We have seen Journey in their highs and lows. So often, that you can “read” their faces. I will have “feedback” regarding that last statement. Every year the venue size increased and touring conditions improved. Remember when we commented that the smaller venues created a more “personal” event? Ticket prices were absurdly low. Journey and all the supporting members (road crew, family members, friends, fans…) promoted and contributed to their success.

Bootleg’s is a controversial subject. Do I have them, yes? Do we support Journey, over 40 concerts? This family’s summer is devoted to Journey and past members. Our expenses for kennel boarding 2 small dogs (during tours) accumulate most concertgoer’s purchases. I can’t comment on their beer-tabs though.

I welcome these bootlegs. I however lose focus on finding “flaws & glitches”. I must have ADHD. I stop analyzing Journey’s performances and focus on their music.

My spouse and I have been married (much) longer than most. We have more “mileage” than most posters. Our son was raised on Journey. This is a Journey family. Time to pop the Asti. See you on the road.

[EightyRock]

Ok, he struggled all the way through Wheel In the Sky, Not Separate Ways. Thanks for pointing that out. He also didn't say that he was watching him from row 5 for lip synching. Sounds like he wouldn't have cared. That's what they are banking on.

[NealIsGod]

Ok, he struggled all the way through Wheel In the Sky, Not Separate Ways. Thanks for pointing that out. He also didn't say that he was watching him from row 5 for lip synching. Sounds like he wouldn't have cared. That's what they are banking on.

If they use tapes, why would Augeri have to struggle through anything? And if that poster reads this fucked-up forum, he was probably looking for it.

[Rockindeano]

Thanks NealIsGod...you took the words right out of my mouth....

I'm just so sick of this whole thing and what has happened to this forum I could vomit. If Drew shuts us down because of Deano's war with all of the BTers who have suddenly decided to "join" us, I'll be pissed.

Thanks for the support, buddy. I apologized to you, Liz, 13 and the rest of the MR family. I apologized for my delivery. The first sonofabitch who responded in hate was none other than a QTer.

I had really good intentions. Go back and read up on it.

You should see the PM's from the Romper roomers...Hate hate hate.

[Rockindeano]

Ok, he struggled all the way through Wheel In the Sky, Not Separate Ways. Thanks for pointing that out. He also didn't say that he was watching him from row 5 for lip synching. Sounds like he wouldn't have cared. That's what they are banking on.

If they use tapes, why would Augeri have to struggle through anything? And if that poster reads this fucked-up forum, he was probably looking for it.

He sings Lights, WITS and LTS that I know of..Those are sung live for sure.