Time for Neal to hire Hugo??

by **Manarocks** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:01 pm

Andrew wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:Actually they gave Hugo an audition when they were looking for a new singer after they decided to move forward without Perry. Everyone considered it "too weird" because Hugo sounds and moves so much like Perry.

The also had Geoff Tate audition as well, I would LOVE to have heard that audition.

Geoff was looked at, Hugo wasn't. He never auditioned. Only Geoff and Steve A did.

Thank you Andrew for the correct information.

by **wildone** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:22 pm

Abitaman wrote:
arrivalrules wrote:Maybe Jeff Scott Soto?

I would never listen to Journey again.

We are forgetting something, Augeri is still in the band, and needs to stay. what ever vocal problem he is having, he needs a year off, then back with a new studio cd and tour. We are counting Augeri out, and I believe he is still in the game-ERIC

well he's not getting any younger either...and with all this going on I wonder if it's gonna hurt anything he's wanted to do twords his solo stuff??He may have lost face with alot of fans..

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:39 pm

wildone, it just seems over really, dont you think? a rushed album,,

a tour that is not getting smoking reviews,, ect ect... i would wonder if even a new

singer would light a fire for the music buying public,,, ross is on neil zazas new album,

schon has other solo albums in the works,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

by **finalfight** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:09 pm

I have read that Hugo's debut solo record has been refered to as the album that Journey should have recorded instead of Trial By Fire.

Whilst I love a great deal of Trial By Fire I can't help but agree with that statement and would actually add that Hugo's back catalogue is superior to the majority of Journey's more recent output specifically Red13 and Generations.

Whatever the reason I am pleased that Hugo didn't join Journey when the search was on for a new vocalist as perhaps he wouldn't have produced the wonderful albums that we have now. We also wouldn't have the great Steve Augeri performances on the 2001 Journey DVD and Arrival, both of which reminded me of how great the band could be. That being said if Journey ever wanted a new front man I would say that artistically and vocally Hugo would be a great fit and could really pump some energy into the Journey juggernaut as it appears to be slowly running out of creative steam.

For those of you who haven't heard anything by Hugo, seek out the albums. I am particulary fond of the self titled debut and 2004's Fire in the Night.

by **Jeremey** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:44 pm

"Time for Neal to hire Hugo?"

Hmm...Let me check my calendar....No, today isn't the twelfth of never, so I guess it isn't quite time yet!

by **jrnyman28** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:28 am

wildone wrote:well he's not getting any younger either...and with all this going on I wonder if it's gonna hurt anything he's wanted to do twords his solo stuff??He may have lost face with alot of fans..

I don't think that many Steve Augeri fans have jumped ship. And I would be willing to bet that in the studio Steve can do just fine. He did on Generations. In fact, I really like most of his vocals on that CD. He brought back a little of his solo voice to it which I think is a good idea. A way to sing in his natural voice, and a way to move past Perry's shadow a little more. Arrival was too full of examples of Steve trying to sound like Perry. And obviously the tours were the same way. It didn't seem to be until the Under The Radar Tour that Steve seemed to find himself, his voice.

by **Eric** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:33 am

I remember reading that Cain and Schon just wrote a little with Tate......including Walking Away From the Edge

by **NoMoreTails** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:36 am

Eric wrote:I remember reading that Cain and Schon just wrote a little with Tate......including Walking Away From the Edge

I thought I had heard this too, but I don't think Tate is credited on the song.

by *Laura » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:36 am

Jeremey wrote:"Time for Neal to hire Hugo?"

Hmm...Let me check my calendar....No, today isn't the twelfth of never, so I guess it isn't quite time yet!

by **SF-Dano** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:59 am

If Augeri's voice is truely toast. Then it is time to make a change. What happened to all the quotes from the band about them continually evolving, and the essence of the name "Journey" implies change.

Whether it be Hugo, JSS, Jeremey, the kid that was so good that was supposedly "taking over for Augeri", make the change if it is necessary. I know, as a true Journey fan, I will still be there and be giving it a listen.

I like Augie, but if he can't perform anymore, that is just a fact of life. He has had some time now to live the dream. He has apirations of doing solo/tall stories stuff. So be it. Journey gave him an opportunity, he held it for a time, made some money, now it may be time for it to come to an end for him.

Now, if all the rumors are not true, then scratch all of the above. :wink:

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:09 am

Shoot half the audience thinks it's still Steve Perry anyway. A vocalist change won't really matter,
they'll still do well in the concert circuit. If he's good, it can only help the band.

by **Jeremey** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:33 am

SF-DANO wrote:Whether it be Hugo, JSS, Jeremey, the kid that was so good that was supposedly "taking over for Augeri", make the change if it is necessary. I know, as a true Journey fan, I will still be there and be giving it a listen.

I like Augie, but if he can't perform anymore, that is just a fact of life. He has had some time now to live the dream. He has apirations of doing solo/tall stories stuff. So be it. Journey gave him an opportunity, he held it for a time, made some money, now it may be time for it to come to an end for him.

Now, if all the rumors are not true, then scratch all of the above.

My post about Hugo was tongue in cheek, but it could be said for all other vocalists, JSS, KC, or me - Journey can't afford another lineup change. They are in the twilight of their career right now...There's no viability in the market for new Journey material, even if Perry sang on another CD, I can't imagine it being as successful as Trial By Fire. And they've toured incessantly for 8 years. So much so, that anyone who wants to see Journey has had multiple opportunities to do so. So if they brought in another vocalist, what would it be for - Another tour? Maybe some one-off corporate gigs? Would the band be that desparate for money that they would run the legacy of the band into the ground at the end of their careers? Gone from the MIGHTY JOURNEY to some Beach Boys equivalent floating lineup oddity popping up at Eastern Shore Lilac Festival or the Chattanooga Dinglefest? Gone would be the $100,000 paydays (if they aren't already), and Journey would become a hobbling Starship of a band peddling stale melodies and fried Snickers bars? Not my Journey, no way. Get this tour over with and sit back and count your money, Journey - You deserve it.

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:37 am

Jeremey wrote:Journey can't afford another lineup change.

Can they afford to continue limping along like they are now though?

by **Saint John** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:27 am

After this tour it's Perry or bust. He's the only one who could entice the 50% plus who have not accepted Augeri. They're there, that's for sure. Perry would bring a label and tons of promoters. That seems to be their only option. Perry stating that he's "practicing scales" seems to be the only light at the end of the tunnel.

by **The Fly** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:02 am

Hugo? Please no. I like his stuff but as Neal said it would be too creepy. I hope that Steve is able to recover and continue next year. But if they did get another singer the only one I think could do it would be Kevin Chalfant. He sounds amazing on the new Shooting Star CD and I have always loved his work with The Storm. I hope they can keep Steve. But if not and they are to continue, Kevin Chalfant should be the guy.

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:42 am

I think that Hugo is a very unique vocalist and imo, I can't see Neal ever allowing Journey's frontman to ever overshadow him again.

by **Abitaman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:44 am

Saint John wrote:After this tour it's Perry or bust. He's the only one who could entice the 50% plus who have not accepted Augeri. They're there, that's for sure. Perry would bring a label and tons of promoters. That seems to be their only option. Perry stating that he's "practicing scales" seems to be the only light at the end of the tunnel.

What about the ones like me, who want Perry to record, BUT NOT IN JOURNEY? NO Perry, NO HUGO, NO Chalfant (that was a tough one), YES to Augeri. Give a year to heal, then record and tour, if then it doesn't work........And who can really say it is not working now?-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:45 am

oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **NoMoreTails** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:50 am

Abitaman wrote:What about the ones like me, who want Perry to record, BUT NOT IN JOURNEY? NO Perry, NO HUGO, NO Chalfant (that was a tough one), YES to Augeri. Give a year to heal, then record and tour, if then it doesn't work........And who can really say it is not working now?-ERIC

I'm with you, Augeri or retire...

and as for Hugo being original, whoever said that, that had to be a joke, could he try any harder to be Perry? Even his orginal stuff sounds like the vocals were ripped off Perry, the music sounds like ripped off Journey licks at times.

by **Citygirl** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:50 am

oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you on that one. I love JSS's music but I just can't see him in Journey at all.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:50 am

Abitaman wrote:oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? Cause he can actually sing? Oh I see, he swears too much. Moron

by **whocares** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:55 am

NoMoreTails wrote:I'm with you, Augeri or retire...

and as for Hugo being original, whoever said that, that had to be a joke, could he try any harder to be Perry? Even his orginal stuff sounds like the vocals were ripped off Perry, the music sounds like ripped off Journey licks at times.

To be fair, Perry ripped off Jackie Wilson and Sam Cooke quite a bit in his inflictions. They sang the way Perry did, before Perry did. You will always sing the way you are influenced to sing. And you will always be compared to someone else, at some point.

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:15 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
Abitaman wrote:oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? Cause he can actually sing? Oh I see, he swears too much. Moron

Yeah & he actually takes care of himself & his voice. And he's a great front man. And he
writes. And he has his own fan base.

But he's all wrong I guess. Cuz he likes Grey Goose.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:22 pm

JDouglee wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
Abitaman wrote:oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? Cause he can actually sing? Oh I see, he swears too much. Moron

Yeah & he actually takes care of himself & his voice. And he's a great front man. And he
writes. And he has his own fan base.

But he's all wrong I guess. Cuz he likes Grey Goose.

Oh I thought he like big titted women :lol:

JSS is a take charge guy.

FYI- JCain is the one who did NOT want JSS in the band.

Now that this tapegate is over, I will share lots of secrets.

by **whocares** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:24 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
Oh I thought he like big titted women

JSS is a take charge guy.

FYI- JCain is the one who did NOT want JSS in the band.

Now that this tapegate is over, I will share lots of secrets.

oooh, should I go make some popcorn?

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:27 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:JSS is a take charge guy.

FYI- JCain is the one who did NOT want JSS in the band.

Yeah Cain was there for the Soul Sirkus sessions. He got to see firsthand how talented the guy really is.

by **FormerJrnyFan** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:37 pm

Cain didn't want to be "taken charge of?"
Totally makes sense...

by **Abitaman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:28 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
Abitaman wrote:oh yea, and NO WAY FOR JSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why? Cause he can actually sing? Oh I see, he swears too much. Moron

Swearing is some of it. Yes he can sing, soul sirkus was a decent cd. BUT, do need a Perry like singer for Journey,EGO-ERIC

by **Abitaman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:31 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:

JSS is a take charge guy.

FYI- JCain is the one who did NOT want JSS in the band.

Now that this tapegate is over, I will share lots of secrets.

Cain has some common sense I see.
But if your secrets are like the ones you have told me in the past, you forget what you told us, or change the story-ERIC

by **finalfight** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:26 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:I think that Hugo is a very unique vocalist and imo, I can't see Neal ever allowing Journey's frontman to ever overshadow him again.

Amen.

MR

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