Where's "Distant Voice"? The mysteries need to be

[whocares]

As long as The Eagles can sell tickets for hundreds of dollars, Hell will remain frozen over for them. It Could happen for Journey, but I don't see it. Journey isn't made up of 4-5 equally tallented (in their own way) singers as The Eagles are.

I said last week, and I'm saying it again, that the fans would come to them, as someone again posted up above me. As much as Steve Probably likes having the huge amounts of money he apparently has, I don't see where it's a big deal to make more for him, otherwise something would have happened by now. He's making enough on re-issues and re-masters, DVD's etc. I'm sure.

[fred_journeyman]

The dream scenario!

That's what the ROR Tour was and even though a number of great songs came from that CD, they were mostly created with Valory and Smith.

If Perry was back in the band now, it wouldn't be the "dream scenario" as you tend to think because it's very doubtful that Perry could hit the highs anymore and in that regard, Jeff (and Deen) does an infinitely better job of it now than Perry could, I'm sure. For Perry Only diehards, that probably doesn't matter, no more than those who loved Elvis months before he fell off the toilet from a drug overdose could only say "he was as good as he ever was" after seeing him in concert. The smart Elvis fans got bored with his antics (lying down on stage, forgetting the words to the songs, his voice sounding like crap and looking Jabba the Hut) and either left the shows in disgust or refused to purchase tickets.

[fred_journeyman]

...As much as Steve Probably likes having the huge amounts of money he apparently has, I don't see where it's a big deal to make more for him, otherwise something would have happened by now. He's making enough on re-issues and re-masters, DVD's etc. I'm sure.

Yep, I agree. He has no need to get back on stage. If he did, it would be ego and that's all, since he does not need the money.

[Chakra]

First off, this "rumor" seems to have been confirmed by a credible source, Uncle Joe. He has a longtime professional and personal friendship with SP as many are aware.

Secondly, IMO why would anyone put credence in Herbie Herbert's bitter rants about Steve.?
He slammed EVERYONE he ever came in contact with in those same interviews with the exception of Rollie. Anyone who thinks everyone else is a bottom feeder is merely looking at his/her own refection in the mirror. Yes, Herbie deserves props for his accomplishments. He also needs to humble himself with a little gratitude to all the "bottom feeders" who made him a wealthy man!

Why is it such a stretch for some to believe that a Perry-fronted Journey Tour could be in the works? Perry gave his view of the break up, beyond that I have never heard him railing on Cain, Schon or Herbie. He admitted some bad judgment calls, especially with the ROR Tour. He has kept above the fray of the controversy all these years. On the other hand others have made demeaning comments and accusations against him, gag order or not.

Call any of us who support Perry, fanatics, dreamers, hallucinators, whatever floats your boat. Steve Perry made things happen! He fought for his vision. He saw the brass ring and wasn't afraid to go for it. He had focus and excellent instincts and he stayed the course with both. He had, and I'm sure still has, the whole package, talent, creativity, intelligence and savvy business acumen. And, oh yeah, he managed his money VERY well. Was he a control freak? I would say affirmative on that. So, what's to criticize? Most likely everyone who has attained that kind of success is a control freak.

It does seem that Steve came to a point a few times in his career, where is wanted off the merry go round for awhile. Most of us can relate to that. The difference is he had the means to do it.

If anyone questions his fan base, check out the multitude of fan clubs celebrating his life and career. The members hail from various parts of the world and represent a cross section of cultures, musical preference, age groups and gender.

There are some people left in this world who do things for reasons other than money or fame. I believe Steve Perry truly cares about the legacy of Journey that he had a major part in creating. Perhaps he is affected by what some intimate as the inevitable dismal end to this amazing Band and collaboration. That concern might trump the wounds of the past. If he were to do it, it could be for that reason alone. I think he has enough money and certainly enough fame to last for many lifetimes.

[heardonthestreet]

First off, this "rumor" seems to have been confirmed by a credible source, Uncle Joe. He has a longtime professional and personal friendship with SP as many are aware.

Secondly, IMO why would anyone put credence in Herbie Herbert's bitter rants about Steve.?
He slammed EVERYONE he ever came in contact with in those same interviews with the exception of Rollie. Anyone who thinks everyone else is a bottom feeder is merely looking at his/her own refection in the mirror. Yes, Herbie deserves props for his accomplishments. He also needs to humble himself with a little gratitude to all the "bottom feeders" who made him a wealthy man!

Why is it such a stretch for some to believe that a Perry-fronted Journey Tour could be in the works? Perry gave his view of the break up, beyond that I have never heard him railing on Cain, Schon or Herbie. He admitted some bad judgment calls, especially with the ROR Tour. He has kept above the fray of the controversy all these years. On the other hand others have made demeaning comments and accusations against him, gag order or not.

Call any of us who support Perry, fanatics, dreamers, hallucinators, whatever floats your boat. Steve Perry made things happen! He fought for his vision. He saw the brass ring and wasn't afraid to go for it. He had focus and excellent instincts and he stayed the course with both. He had, and I'm sure still has, the whole package, talent, creativity, intelligence and savvy business acumen. And, oh yeah, he managed his money VERY well. Was he a control freak? I would say affirmative on that. So, what's to criticize? Most likely everyone who has attained that kind of success is a control freak.

It does seem that Steve came to a point a few times in his career, where is wanted off the merry go round for awhile. Most of us can relate to that. The difference is he had the means to do it.

If anyone questions his fan base, check out the multitude of fan clubs celebrating his life and career. The members hail from various parts of the world and represent a cross section of cultures, musical preference, age groups and gender.

There are some people left in this world who do things for reasons other than money or fame. I believe Steve Perry truly cares about the legacy of Journey that he had a major part in creating. Perhaps he is affected by what some intimate as the inevitable dismal end to this amazing Band and collaboration. That concern might trump the wounds of the past. If he were to do it, it could be for that reason alone. I think he has enough money and certainly enough fame to last for many lifetimes.

.......................................Very worth repeating!

[fred_journeyman]

...Why is it such a stretch for some to believe that a Perry-fronted Journey Tour could be in the works?

I won't bother to comment on your other statements regarding HH, except to say that just because he rags on people does not mean that he is lying about everything or anything he says. He also said that Perry has "more money than GOD!" and while that is an obvious exaggeration, there is truth in it.

Why is it a stretch for me to believe Perry will return to the stage to front Journey? Simply because he doesn't need to do so and has shown absolutely no interest in singing since TBF, except for the occasional humming of a few bars in the background of this person's CD or that person's, or singing a verse here or there.

Perry could do with a little bit of humility instilling himself. Cheese and crackers, if there is ANYONE out there who can close the door on people he worked with for a decade and have nothing to do with them until HE is ready to do something, it's Perry.

Yes, Perry admitted that he made some bad judgement calls on VH-1's BTM, however this statement is supposed to absolve him of all responsibility and fallout it caused not only with Valory and Smith, but with the fanbase? It doesn't, except for those who continue to see Perry as a better human being (think godlike) than the other guys in the band.

You know, your entire post is so reminiscent of all the Perry Only-related posts I've read for years. You say nothing new and your overall tone is "Leave Steve Perry alone, blah, blah, blah." You're raising him to the level of near deity with your supposition that you "believe Steve Perry truly cares about the legacy of Journey that he had a major part in creating. Perhaps he is affected by what some intimate as the inevitable dismal end to this amazing Band and collaboration. That concern might trump the wounds of the past. If he were to do it, it could be for that reason alone." Wow, Steve Perry certainly is altruistic, isn't he? I think I feel something coming back up...

This is ridiculous. If you truly believe everything you've just written (and I have no doubt that you do), then you are doing exactly what the PPs continue to do - praise Perry to the heights, while inadvertently denigrating the rest of the band.

Perry was/is a great talent, absolutely. I will give him that, but everything I have EVER read about him by people who have worked with him (except those in his band who were paid to be part of his band) have questioned his OCD and Diva-like behavior, his decisions and his inability to work for the benefit of ALL involved in a project. Apparently, that he's a "control freak" who walks all over people is totally fine with you because of his nature.

Yes, Perry had excellent instincts. I'm sure he also fought very hard for everything he got, even taking it away from others that rightfully deserved the praise and adulation. Gee, huh, this reminds me, why did Gregg Rolie leave the band and why wouldn't a million dollars keep him there? Oh yeah, Perry. That's right. Perry was smart enough to know that regardless of how well talented he was/is, if he wasn't involved with a group of guys who were phenomenally talented in their own right, he would amount to NOTHING. That had been proven over and over again BEFORE he hooked up with Journey with his failed attempts to get into the music business. Let's not forget Herbie Herbert, this guy you think is a jackass (my word), was the person who wanted to manage Alien Project.

But alas, I'll let you live in your dreams. Seems to be the only thing you have going for you, because reality doesn't seem to be part of the picture for you.

And of course, people will read this and it will be "confirmed" to them that I hate Perry. Not at all true. As far as I'm concerned, Perry is a human being like the rest of us. Those who believe I hate or despise the man do so because they view him as God and my comments simply slam their "religion;" the religion of worshipping Steve Perry.

All rise. Let us pray...

[Chakra]

Wow, I'm really sorry you are having a bad day and perhaps life.
I expressed an opinion on an interesting topic I noticed. I don't post incessantly on this board.
In expressing my observation, I don't need anyone's validation or co-signature. I'm certainly not going to loose any sleep if someone disagrees.

All the best!

[whocares]

if ya don't have thick skin, then reading people posting back to your posts probably isn't for you. No need to say someone is having a bad life if their OPINION is different than yours. You in effect did exactly what you think F_J did.

[Clasicrockldy]

if ya don't have thick skin, then reading people posting back to your posts probably isn't for you. No need to say someone is having a bad life if their OPINION is different than yours. You in effect did exactly what you think F_J did.

who, sounds like someone wants to start some .

[Saint John]

...Why is it such a stretch for some to believe that a Perry-fronted Journey Tour could be in the works?

I won't bother to comment on your other statements regarding HH, except to say that just because he rags on people does not mean that he is lying about everything or anything he says. He also said that Perry has "more money than GOD!" and while that is an obvious exaggeration, there is truth in it.

Why is it a stretch for me to believe Perry will return to the stage to front Journey? Simply because he doesn't need to do so and has shown absolutely no interest in singing since TBF, except for the occasional humming of a few bars in the background of this person's CD or that person's, or singing a verse here or there.

Perry could do with a little bit of humility instilling himself. Cheese and crackers, if there is ANYONE out there who can close the door on people he worked with for a decade and have nothing to do with them until HE is ready to do something, it's Perry.

Yes, Perry admitted that he made some bad judgement calls on VH-1's BTM, however this statement is supposed to absolve him of all responsibility and fallout it caused not only with Valory and Smith, but with the fanbase? It doesn't, except for those who continue to see Perry as a better human being (think godlike) than the other guys in the band.

You know, your entire post is so reminiscent of all the Perry Only-related posts I've read for years. You say nothing new and your overall tone is "Leave Steve Perry alone, blah, blah, blah." You're raising him to the level of near deity with your supposition that you "believe Steve Perry truly cares about the legacy of Journey that he had a major part in creating. Perhaps he is affected by what some intimate as the inevitable dismal end to this amazing Band and collaboration. That concern might trump the wounds of the past. If he were to do it, it could be for that reason alone." Wow, Steve Perry certainly is altruistic, isn't he? I think I feel something coming back up...

This is ridiculous. If you truly believe everything you've just written (and I have no doubt that you do), then you are doing exactly what the PPs continue to do - praise Perry to the heights, while inadvertently denigrating the rest of the band.

Perry was/is a great talent, absolutely. I will give him that, but everything I have EVER read about him by people who have worked with him (except those in his band who were paid to be part of his band) have questioned his OCD and Diva-like behavior, his decisions and his inability to work for the benefit of ALL involved in a project. Apparently, that he's a "control freak" who walks all over people is totally fine with you because of his nature.

Yes, Perry had excellent instincts. I'm sure he also fought very hard for everything he got, even taking it away from others that rightfully deserved the praise and adulation. Gee, huh, this reminds me, why did Gregg Rolie leave the band and why wouldn't a million dollars keep him there? Oh yeah, Perry. That's right. Perry was smart enough to know that regardless of how well talented he was/is, if he wasn't involved with a group of guys who were phenomenally talented in their own right, he would amount to NOTHING. That had been proven over and over again BEFORE he hooked up with Journey with his failed attempts to get into the music business. Let's not forget Herbie Herbert, this guy you think is a jackass (my word), was the person who wanted to manage Alien Project.

But alas, I'll let you live in your dreams. Seems to be the only thing you have going for you, because reality doesn't seem to be part of the picture for you.

And of course, people will read this and it will be "confirmed" to them that I hate Perry. Not at all true. As far as I'm concerned, Perry is a human being like the rest of us. Those who believe I hate or despise the man do so because they view him as God and my comments simply slam their "religion;" the religion of worshipping Steve Perry.

All rise. Let us pray...

I, for one, don't "worship" Steve Perry. However, I'm tired of mediocrity in the band. There is absolutely no difference between now and 8 years ago. The band has accomplished zero. They've toured off of the past. A past that Steve Perry was a tremendous part of. Seems to me they might be dreaming too. Back to a time where they had direction, chemistry and success. I'm sure it wasn't always a perfect relationship, but that feuding or jealousy or whatever it was sure seemed to bring out the best in those five individuals. With Augeri they had the perfect relationship...a big love fest. And what else? Two and a half shitty albums that sold 400,000 copies between all of them. Constant touring while refusing to play songs to support albums they'd released. And you expect us NOT to dream?

As far as your religious rant goes, I'm speechless. It's hard to respond to something so stupid. Talking about rising and praying is childish bullshit. Really brings your post down. As far as Italia's post goes, I thought it was pretty good. You attacking him seemed unprovoked to me. And I think he meant to put an "if" in prior statement. Meaning "if" you're having a shitty week or life. Just a hunch. Either way, Perry is an 80's music icon. You mention Journey and 9 out of 10 will say Steve Perry. And for you to think Perry coming back wouldn't put ticket sales through the roof is just insane. his return would signal an end to Casino gigs and the currrent riding of Def Leppards coattails. They wouldn't be an opening band either. And they ARE the opening act. The band has sold about 65 million albums worldwide and 63-64 million are with Steve Perry involved. Coincidence? I think not.

[whocares]

if ya don't have thick skin, then reading people posting back to your posts probably isn't for you. No need to say someone is having a bad life if their OPINION is different than yours. You in effect did exactly what you think F_J did.

who, sounds like someone wants to start some .

ya think? sniff sniff

it's always nice of people to come on strong on their very first posts.

[fred_journeyman]

Wow, I'm really sorry you are having a bad day and perhaps life. I expressed an opinion on an interesting topic I noticed. I don't post incessantly on this board. In expressing my observation, I don't need anyone's validation or co-signature. I'm certainly not going to loose any sleep if someone disagrees.

All the best!

HA ha, thank you for the laugh. I'm having a great life, thank you.

As far as not posting "incessantly", uh duh, since that was your first post...at least as Italia1986. Though literally God only knows who else you might be. Whether you need any validation or "co-signature" or anything else is purely besides the point. You can't be THAT stupid to think that you're going to post what is obviously your opinion without expecting people to post responses to it, either in favor or against. But maybe you're just an egoist who believes that his/her opinions are so air tight that no one would deign to disagree with you because it would be a waste of time if they did?

You asked at least one question in your post (about the stretch to believe Perry could come back to Journey) and I responded to that question. Who cares if you like my response or don't?

Look, it's obvious from your post and your demeanor that you're no "newbie" to posting. You've obviously read the interviews and you've come to your own conclusions about Perry and Journey. That's fine, but please don't expect people to take the "hands off" approach to your posts. The FACT that you obviously accepted HOTS praise for your post (by not taking her to task) and brushed my response off as hostile (implied in your sarcastic response to mine), while pretending that you simply post to make your opinions known and don't care if someone disagrees with you or not, totally gives you AND your ulterior motives away. The fact that you responded as you did to my post is indicative of that.

Is this the best that can occur now that I'm "back"? I've seen the LACK of responses from the normal Perry Groupies, so we're now resorting to pretending to be someone who is posting for the first time and has no "axe to grind"? It was a valiant effort though, but totally transparent.

"All the best"? Sure...

[fred_journeyman]

I, for one, don't "worship" Steve Perry. However, I'm tired of mediocrity in the band. There is absolutely no difference between now and 8 years ago. The band has accomplished zero. They've toured off of the past. A past that Steve Perry was a tremendous part of. Seems to me they might be dreaming too. Back to a time where they had direction, chemistry and success. I'm sure it wasn't always a perfect relationship, but that feuding or jealousy or whatever it was sure seemed to bring out the best in those five individuals. With Augeri they had the perfect relationship...a big love fest. And what else? Two and a half shitty albums that sold 400,000 copies between all of them. Constant touring while refusing to play songs to support albums they'd released. And you expect us NOT to dream?

I don't care if you dream. Have at it! Enjoy yourself, because that's all it will be is a dream. My disagreement with Italia1986's post had NOTHING to do with her dreaming. It had EVERYTHING to do with raising Perry up on a pedastal and acting as though IF Steve Perry returned to Journey, it would be for altruistic reasons. I say IF Perry returns to Journey, it would be for EGO. It would be HIS big way of saying "I told you so."

As far as your religious rant goes, I'm speechless. It's hard to respond to something so stupid.

You haven't been dealing with Perry Only groupies that long, have you? My reference to religion was to put it into terms they would understand, because for many of them it IS a religion. Looking over your post, it doesn't appear to me that you were actually, in fact, speechless...

Talking about rising and praying is childish bullshit. Really brings your post down.

It was a joke. Says you and you are? What, you are now the arbiter of what makes a post good and what makes a post bad? You know, I smell an awful lot of testosterone coming from your corner...

As far as Italia's post goes, I thought it was pretty good. You attacking him seemed unprovoked to me.

What does YOUR opinion about MY response to Italia1986 have anything to do with anything? Who cares if YOU think it was "pretty good"?! Cheese and crackers, talk about egotistical. So, because YOU thought Italia1986's post was "pretty good," that MUST mean that it WAS? Yeah, okay.

And I think he meant to put an "if" in prior statement. Meaning "if" you're having a shitty week or life. Just a hunch.

Well IF that's the case, it doesn't CHANGE the implication of his/her post.

Either way, Perry is an 80's music icon. You mention Journey and 9 out of 10 will say Steve Perry. And for you to think Perry coming back wouldn't put ticket sales through the roof is just insane. his return would signal an end to Casino gigs and the currrent riding of Def Leppards coattails. They wouldn't be an opening band either. And they ARE the opening act. The band has sold about 65 million albums worldwide and 63-64 million are with Steve Perry involved. Coincidence? I think not.

You know, you ASSUME way too much. The days of selling out arenas are pretty much gone, except for a few bands. Look Johnny, ever since my first day back, you've decided you wanted to try and put me in my place. It's just not working and I don't honestly care WHAT your opinion is because it has NO bearing on MY opinion. There is NOTHING you can say that will make me believe that YOU are right and I am WRONG or "INSANE" for what I believe to be the truth. If you want, you can keep trying, but it's really not going to make any difference for me at all.

I've been around these boards a helluva lot longer than you and put up with an infinite amount of more crap that you have, so you are just wasting your time. I developed a thick skin a LONG, LONG time ago.

There is NO proof for either of our arguments - none. Unless Perry gets back with the band, gets up on stage and tours WITH THE BAND, we will just NEVER know THE truth. Until that time, we're both just spouting opinions. The difference? I recognize that MINE is an opnion. You seem to think that yours is written in stone. You're welcome to your opinion. Just remember that it IS an opinion...just like mine.

By the way, you keep referring to Italia1986 as a guy (him/he), but I'd be willing to bet Italia1986 is a gal. Of course, I could be wrong, but at least in my post, I gave him/her the benefit of the doubt.

You may be seated...

[Blueskies]

Come on! ONE POST and someone is immedialty labled and pigeon-holed with an agenda and the conspiracy theory is expounded! Give it a rest and give someone a little time before making assumptions. If you want to lable me for responding to this, thats your problem! I for one would like to welcome the new poster.

[Saint John]

I, for one, don't "worship" Steve Perry. However, I'm tired of mediocrity in the band. There is absolutely no difference between now and 8 years ago. The band has accomplished zero. They've toured off of the past. A past that Steve Perry was a tremendous part of. Seems to me they might be dreaming too. Back to a time where they had direction, chemistry and success. I'm sure it wasn't always a perfect relationship, but that feuding or jealousy or whatever it was sure seemed to bring out the best in those five individuals. With Augeri they had the perfect relationship...a big love fest. And what else? Two and a half shitty albums that sold 400,000 copies between all of them. Constant touring while refusing to play songs to support albums they'd released. And you expect us NOT to dream?

I don't care if you dream. Have at it! Enjoy yourself, because that's all it will be is a dream. My disagreement with Italia1986's post had NOTHING to do with her dreaming. It had EVERYTHING to do with raising Perry up on a pedastal and acting as though IF Steve Perry returned to Journey, it would be for altruistic reasons. I say IF Perry returns to Journey, it would be for EGO. It would be HIS big way of saying "I told you so."

As far as your religious rant goes, I'm speechless. It's hard to respond to something so stupid.

You haven't been dealing with Perry Only groupies that long, have you? My reference to religion was to put it into terms they would understand, because for many of them it IS a religion. Looking over your post, it doesn't appear to me that you were actually, in fact, speechless...

Talking about rising and praying is childish bullshit. Really brings your post down.

It was a joke. Says you and you are? What, you are now the arbiter of what makes a post good and what makes a post bad? You know, I smell an awful lot of testosterone coming from your corner...

As far as Italia's post goes, I thought it was pretty good. You attacking him seemed unprovoked to me.

What does YOUR opinion about MY response to Italia1986 have anything to do with anything? Who cares if YOU think it was "pretty good"?! Cheese and crackers, talk about egotistical. So, because YOU thought Italia1986's post was "pretty good," that MUST mean that it WAS? Yeah, okay.

And I think he meant to put an "if" in prior statement. Meaning "if" you're having a shitty week or life. Just a hunch.

Well IF that's the case, it doesn't CHANGE the implication of his/her post.

Either way, Perry is an 80's music icon. You mention Journey and 9 out of 10 will say Steve Perry. And for you to think Perry coming back wouldn't put ticket sales through the roof is just insane. his return would signal an end to Casino gigs and the currrent riding of Def Leppards coattails. They wouldn't be an opening band either. And they ARE the opening act. The band has sold about 65 million albums worldwide and 63-64 million are with Steve Perry involved. Coincidence? I think not.

You know, you ASSUME way too much. The days of selling out arenas are pretty much gone, except for a few bands. Look Johnny, ever since my first day back, you've decided you wanted to try and put me in my place. It's just not working and I don't honestly care WHAT your opinion is because it has NO bearing on MY opinion. There is NOTHING you can say that will make me believe that YOU are right and I am WRONG or "INSANE" for what I believe to be the truth. If you want, you can keep trying, but it's really not going to make any difference for me at all.

I've been around these boards a helluva lot longer than you and put up with an infinite amount of more crap that you have, so you are just wasting your time. I developed a thick skin a LONG, LONG time ago.

There is NO proof for either of our arguments - none. Unless Perry gets back with the band, gets up on stage and tours WITH THE BAND, we will just NEVER know THE truth. Until that time, we're both just spouting opinions. The difference? I recognize that MINE is an opnion. You seem to think that yours is written in stone. You're welcome to your opinion. Just remember that it IS an opinion...just like mine.

By the way, you keep referring to Italia1986 as a guy (him/he), but I'd be willing to bet Italia1986 is a gal. Of course, I could be wrong, but at least in my post, I gave him/her the benefit of the doubt.

You may be seated...

I assume too much? Hmmmm....you claim to know what the reasons would be if Perry returned to Journey. Seems like an assumption to me. You've been around these boards a helluva lot longer than me....another assumption. You've put up with more crap than I have....another assumption. You seem to assume as much or more than I do. I'm tired of you and your shit. I will not respond to your posts any longer. They don't merit my time. As for you're "You may be seated comment"...you can go fuck yourself. You're a narcissistic punk who enjoys reading his own posts. Goodbye and have a nice day.

[fred_journeyman]

I assume too much? Hmmmm....you claim to know what the reasons would be if Perry returned to Journey. Seems like an assumption to me. You've been around these boards a helluva lot longer than me....another assumption. You've put up with more crap than I have....another assumption. You seem to assume as much or more than I do. I'm tired of you and your shit. I will not respond to your posts any longer. They don't merit my time. As for you're "You may be seated comment"...you can go fuck yourself. You're a narcissistic punk who enjoys reading his own posts. Goodbye and have a nice day.

John, one more time...I am expressing my OPINIONS. The only thing I really know is the addresses of all of the homes that Perry owns along with his SS#. The rest? I come to CONCLUSIONS based on things that I've read here and there.

As far as fucking myself, I generally leave that to my wife. You need to grow up dude. I can't believe you teach in the public schools...

[StyxCollector]

Secondly, IMO why would anyone put credence in Herbie Herbert's bitter rants about Steve.?

Whether you like or hate Herbie, it's not like he has NO history with the band. And it's his version of the events as seen through his eyes. I don't think he's lying at all. Is HH a prick? Most likely, but he has an ego just like SP, Neal, Jon, etc. He's laughing all the way to the bank watching these guys thrash around since they replaced him with Azoff. His opinion is by no means wrong or any less valid.

Why is it such a stretch for some to believe that a Perry-fronted Journey Tour could be in the works? Perry gave his view of the break up, beyond that I have never heard him railing on Cain, Schon or Herbie. He admitted some bad judgment calls, especially with the ROR Tour. He has kept above the fray of the controversy all these years. On the other hand others have made demeaning comments and accusations against him, gag order or not.

Perry has no reason to do it, and I agree with f_j. If he did, it would be for an a) "I told you so" or b) ego. Or both. But he's not going to do it for free (and I'm sure the price he'll exact will be high in comparison to what everyone else will make), and he's not going to do it because he's a nice guy. He has no need to put himself out there every night again. He's financially OK, and doesn't need to tarnish his own personal legacy with Journey. TBF, while not a rousing success, is a decent way to go out.

I believe Steve Perry truly cares about the legacy of Journey that he had a major part in creating.

This I agree with. Scandals like tapegate cut into SP's bottom line.

Perhaps he is affected by what some intimate as the inevitable dismal end to this amazing Band and collaboration. That concern might trump the wounds of the past. If he were to do it, it could be for that reason alone.

Nah, he's not THAT concerned. When you see SP advertising to play people's living rooms, be concerned. Until then, he'll stay in his cave.

[Blueskies]

To Fred - What the HELL! His addresses and SS#? You really showed your ass on this one,dude!

[Rockindeano]

I would have also said 50% of perry fronted Journey next year, but now neal has his buddy, er life jacket Jeff around, and I know Neal is trying to get anyboby he can to sing as to keep Perry away.

Neal knows about money. How can he not know if perry came back they would back a trainload of cash onto his 10,000 Lakes home.

However, on the flip side, Perry may be shaking his finger at these fucks, and going out on tour by himself and his band...
If given the choice, I would see Espee....If given the choice, Mr Schon should elect to play with Mr Espee. Friga? Who cares about him and Ross...fuck, call Randy and let Jeff play keys... I hate Friga.

[nolippin]

Fred_Journeyman wrote:
"The only thing I really know is the addresses of all of the homes that Perry owns along with his SS#. The rest? I come to CONCLUSIONS based on things that I've read here and there."

Ummm...dude, that is very strange. Even stranger that you admit it.

[fred_journeyman]

Perry has no reason to do it, and I agree with f_j. If he did, it would be for an a) "I told you so" or b) ego. Or both. But he's not going to do it for free (and I'm sure the price he'll exact will be high in comparison to what everyone else will make), and he's not going to do it because he's a nice guy. He has no need to put himself out there every night again. He's financially OK, and doesn't need to tarnish his own personal legacy with Journey. TBF, while not a rousing success, is a decent way to go out.

Hear, hear, my point exactly. Well said and I'd like to state that I agree with your opinion.

[yak]

The only 'fans' who want to see that at this point are the Perry diehards who still think he's coming back after 8 years. 'Loyal' fans of the BAND will be irritated that the band was fooled TWICE by holding onto SP and they still came back for more. Casual fans of the band will say, "Journey did what? Really, their singer left 8 years ago? Ok. Whatever." It's not going to be some mega-tour of Journey glory.

And same old thing will happen... I predict this now:
Album
Tour for a month
Oh, Perry has bronchitis
Never get west of Virginia
Journey never heard from again

Well said!

Allthough I don't believe for a second that he doesn't see what's written on the net anywhere, I picture him sitting back when Lora or anyone else shows him stuff and he's just sitting there soaking it all up, laughing at how people want him back so much. Not only in Journey but solo too. It's good for his ego to know he's still wanted in the fan's eyes.

I agree that he's likely on the net..but his heart can only take the good news being perpetrated by the loon clan. The rest would make him run and hide because of the humongous ego he carries around. I picture him laughing all the way to the bank.

This stuff with Journey right now is pretty much confined to internet chat groups.

Yes, but for some, these chat groups are their only world.

Fans at the concerts don't even seem to know Perry's not with them anymore.

This is true. The ones who do know, don't seem that concerned about it. They seem to go to listen to the Dirty Dozen; they don't care who's singing to them.

[cetera]

I respectfully disagree, Fred. I have no doubt at all that it would be about the music. He doesn't need the money.

Then the choice of music for live shows would have to be within his reduced singing range, which would mean either changing keys or (god forbid) singing to tapes of Houston '81

He ain't coming back to Journey..... and if he did he'd tarnish his 'legend'....

[PROPERRY]

I assume too much? Hmmmm....you claim to know what the reasons would be if Perry returned to Journey. Seems like an assumption to me. You've been around these boards a helluva lot longer than me....another assumption. You've put up with more crap than I have....another assumption. You seem to assume as much or more than I do. I'm tired of you and your shit. I will not respond to your posts any longer. They don't merit my time. As for you're "You may be seated comment"...you can go fuck yourself. You're a narcissistic punk who enjoys reading his own posts. Goodbye and have a nice day.

John, one more time...I am expressing my OPINIONS. The only thing I really know is the addresses of all of the homes that Perry owns along with his SS#. The rest? I come to CONCLUSIONS based on things that I've read here and there.

As far as fucking myself, I generally leave that to my wife. You need to grow up dude. I can't believe you teach in the public schools...

Well Fred, regardless of what you claim to know or not , that is really crossing way over the line for anyone to know that "kind of information" about ANY famous person.

Lori

[conversationpc]

The only thing I really know is the addresses of all of the homes that Perry owns along with his SS#.

Ummm...Why would you even WANT to know all of Perry's addresses and his SS#? Sounds a little nutso to me.

[EightyRock]

Odd that a person who's mission has always been to find fault with Perry has managed to unearth his addresses and SS#?????? Now that's what I call a real loon! Way to go Fred! You just reminded everybody of what the meaning of overly obsessed fan really is.

[fred_journeyman]

Odd that a person who's mission has always been to find fault with Perry has managed to unearth his addresses and SS#?????? Now that's what I call a real loon! Way to go Fred! You just reminded everybody of what the meaning of overly obsessed fan really is.

I am absolutely ROLLING ON THE FLOOR!!!! This is WAY too hilarious!!!

Why would you actually BELIEVE what I said about knowing Perry's addresses and his SS# without blinking, or questioning it, yet totally DISBELIEVE some of the other things I've said in spite of how logical or reasonable they were?? No one saw any "tongue in cheek" in that statement?! Of COURSE! The comment wasn’t about NEAL!! Damn, what WAS I thinking??!! If I had said that about Neal, I would have people lining up to GET the information, so they could throw eggs at his house(s) or something! 

Oh...my...GOD!! It's TRUE! Perry Loons have absolutely NO sense of humor - none - nada - zilch - they are obviously just dyed-in-the-wool Perry People (PPs) who live for one thing and one thing only - the day Perry sings again as the front man for Journey, and you folks will obviously do whatever it takes to protect the man's gilded image, even if it means walking around with blinders on; blinders to humor, blinders to reality, and blinders to common sense!!

How could I POSSIBLY know Steve's SS#??!! While I MIGHT be able to find out where Steve actually LIVES (if I CARED), but to know ALL of his addresses??!! Talk about "selective believing"...how could ANYONE be so stupid and gullible to simply believe that without questioning it??!!

Who are the real "loons"? Some of you people (and you know who you are!) have simply proven to me what I've always thought about you: you are absolute morons...your gullibility seems to know NO bounds at all. And of course, after reading this, some of you will go, “Well, (duh, gee Tennessee), I don’t think that’s funny! Nyuk, Nyuk!!”

Thank you for putting a huge smile on my face this Saturday morning!! I owe you one!

[conversationpc]

Oh...my...GOD!! It's TRUE! Perry Loons have absolutely NO sense of humor - none - nada - zilch - they are obviously just dyed-in-the-wool Perry People (PPs) who live for one thing and one thing only - the day Perry sings again as the front man for Journey, and you folks will obviously do whatever it takes to protect the man's gilded image, even if it means walking around with blinders on; blinders to humor, blinders to reality, and blinders to common sense!!

Do some research. I'm not a Perry loon and never have been. I love most of the stuff the guys have done with Augeri and don't have any delusions about Perry rejoining the band.

[fred_journeyman]

Do some research. I'm not a Perry loon and never have been. I love most of the stuff the guys have done with Augeri and don't have any delusions about Perry rejoining the band.

Research?! Research?! You believe what I said without questioning it and you tell ME to do research on YOU and YOUR posts?! I said good day, sir (Fez, from "That 70s Show").

Uh...my entire response was geared to people who mistakenly THINK that I was actually being serious. You were one of them. Funny how you took one sentence out of my entire post and had an issue with that one.

I have to go have coffee and read the morning paper now...

[nolippin]

...and it's Friday morning. You seem to be living to stir up trouble where there is none.

How about giving the board a chance to be the way most of us and the board admin want it to be?

Oh...my...GOD!! It's TRUE! Perry Loons have absolutely NO sense of humor - none - nada - zilch - they are obviously just dyed-in-the-wool Perry People (PPs) who live for one thing and one thing only - the day Perry sings again as the front man for Journey, and you folks will obviously do whatever it takes to protect the man's gilded image, even if it means walking around with blinders on; blinders to humor, blinders to reality, and blinders to common sense!!

Do some research. I'm not a Perry loon and never have been. I love most of the stuff the guys have done with Augeri and don't have any delusions about Perry rejoining the band.