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Postby Just Mindy » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:42 am

A Fire Inside wrote:
Perry86fan wrote:I am not saying Steve was an Angle

I don't know, I'm thinking somewhere in the 45 degree range... :wink:


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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:43 am

I'm sure JourneyRox thinks Perry was an acute angle...
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:35 am

NealIsGod wrote:I'm sure JourneyRox thinks Perry was an acute angle...

...but in some places obtuse... :lol:
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Postby lights1961 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:07 pm

***working*** on reissues is hardly working.... 8)
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Postby daBB » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:19 pm

conversationpc wrote:I remember reading a portion of an interview with Neal where he mentioned something about "dropping a mushroom" and that's when he came up with the riff to "Stone in Love".


Was this an interview from the 80's, Dave? Just want to make sure....
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:32 pm

Perry86fan wrote:That remark is very uncalled for. :x :evil: Do you know for a fact he dose this?I just bet you don't and even if did it is still uncalled for. Let me ask you this have you ever walked in his shoes at anytime in his life? and we know the answer is NO So i say shut the f*** up then. :evil:


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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:28 pm

NealIsGod wrote:I'm sure JourneyRox thinks Perry was an acute angle...

NIGGY + his wit = :lol:
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Postby Deb » Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:49 pm

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Perry86fan wrote:I am not saying Steve was an Angle


I'd rather think of him as more devilish....... :lol: :wink:
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Postby A Fire Inside » Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:20 pm

strungout wrote:I'd rather think of him as more devilish.......

I hear the sound of the angle joke blowing right past you... :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:57 pm

NealIsGod wrote:I'm sure JourneyRox thinks Perry was an acute angle...


Ur hysterical Niggy. Ur wife must have a lot of fun...lucky girl. Are u devilishly handsome too? :-)
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Postby Perry86fan » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:15 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Perry86fan wrote:That remark is very uncalled for. :x :evil: Do you know for a fact he dose this?I just bet you don't and even if did it is still uncalled for. Let me ask you this have you ever walked in his shoes at anytime in his life? and we know the answer is NO So i say shut the f*** up then. :evil:


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Well then if that is the case ...then i can say the way i feel as well.And i still say intill you walk in his shoes you don't know.And as you know the other site do not have him on the maine forum. And as for a brown shirt i have no idea what you are talking about. So i say to you f.*** you. Don't ever tell me where to go bud i will go where & when i want to go.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:41 am

Perry86fan wrote:Well then if that is the case ...then i can say the way i feel as well.


Umm, never said you couldn't!

Perry86fan wrote:And i still say intill you walk in his shoes you don't know.


Rumblings have circulated forever about Perry's cocaine use.
It's part of Journey lore.
I choose to believe itm from what I've heard and read.
If you choose not to, that is certainly your perogative

....f.*** you. Don't ever tell me where to go bud i will go where & when i want to go.


And why the hell not?
Your inaugural post tried to tell me what exactly I could and could not talk about
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:48 am

Andrew wrote:One word for you - NO.


To Journey? I have to say you are correct.

I was once saying "definitely maybe" last year or so, when the conditions were at the worst with Taper.....I thought it would be the only time for Neal and Beak to reform.....

But nope, JSS is the shit..It's his car, and I would think the guy will drive it as fast as fucking possible.

However, I do think Perry will turn out an CD late this year or early 2007.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:02 am

I predict JSS going down in flames. He is not that unique for a Journey frontman which is the same problem that Augeri had. Journey had a unique frontman and it will only take someone as unique a Perry to replace him or else it's just a vocalist going through the motions, imo.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:25 am

Rockn'deano wrote:However, I do think Perry will turn out an CD late this year or early 2007.


That would be cool. However, Perry had stuff in the works for years before FTLOSM finally saw the light of day. I hope you're right but if he still has "Tom Scholz syndrome" it may still be a while.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:36 am

heardonthestreet wrote:I predict JSS going down in flames. He is not that unique for a Journey frontman which is the same problem that Augeri had. Journey had a unique frontman and it will only take someone as unique a Perry to replace him or else it's just a vocalist going through the motions, imo.


JSS isn't a Perry soundalike/lookalike. He is his own man in all things he has done & a lot of what he is done is unique. He should have become a household name w/all the talent he has but fate didn't make that happen for him yet. That's the music biz. One person gets that break, someone else gets passed over. I love Jeff's work pre-Journey. I didn't like him w/Journey when I went to the show. But I realize he stepped in mid-tour w/no or very little notice & very little rehearsal time. After all, the band were on the road when he stepped in. They weren't getting ready behind the scenes w/JSS night after night. At this point, I want to give JSS a chance to find himself w/in Journey & how he will make this gig his own. He has a set of pipes, dynamic stage presence, he connects directly w/fans, plays a few instruments & he can write kick ass songs w/Neal. Once he gets more time w/the catalogue songs, figures out which ones he can make his own, & gets to writing some stuff for Journey to perform, it will be interesting to see what comes up. Maybe it still won't work for me, but I'm going to wait to find out. Because maybe it will REALLY work. Time will tell. Just give him a chance.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:45 am

JourneyRox wrote:One person gets that break, someone else gets passed over.


Jeff hardly got passed over. The guy was singing for Yngwie Malmsteen's band when he was a teenager, playing all over the world to fairly big crowds. They might not have been the Rolling Stones but he was in the limelight for a time.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:54 am

conversationpc wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:One person gets that break, someone else gets passed over.


Jeff hardly got passed over. The guy was singing for Yngwie Malmsteen's band when he was a teenager, playing all over the world to fairly big crowds. They might not have been the Rolling Stones but he was in the limelight for a time.


I phrased that wrong I guess. In interviews JSS said he sang FOR Yngwie not with him. He didn't get the notice from that despite his awesome voice. His other bands haven't got the US support they deserve nor has his solo stuff.

Not quite the same but the way I understand it, Augeri's Tall Stories were right there on the edge of breaking thru. Then the record label decided to go with Pearl Jam and pulled support of Tall Stories. That's the kind of thing I'm referring to.

JSS has been that close & could (should) have become a household name but for one dumb reason or another, he didn't.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:59 am

It just seems that in order to make it, you have to have a reason for being and imo, Perry was Journey's reason for being. They might have just faded like Tall Stories if not for Perry. The music from the Perry years is all that has kept the band viable since he was let go. I just can't see Soto turning Journey around and making it into anything even close to what the classic years were all about and if it begins to resemble SS too much it will get about as much action here in the States as SS did. SS was just plain BAD, imo.
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:43 am

heardonthestreet wrote:... SS was just plain BAD, imo.


Gotta totally disagree with you HOTS. Do you own World Play?
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:31 am

Don't listen to granny. She is the last person who should be commenting on rock and roll. :roll:
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Postby journeywoman » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:45 am

Ya know it would be like the second coming if the man comes back and as for me if he tours yes I will fly to see this man. I think he is just wonderful for buying their lunch,probaly more than some of the others would do for a fan,as a fan i don't give a crap if he goes back to Journey or not.I for one just hope he comes back to something he loves dearly.More than what you can say for the others that's in it for a pay check!And some you would argue black is white and white is black.If you would honestly sit and read some of your comments my God all some of you do is nit-pick at everything.All I can say is go Steve go!
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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:41 pm

Perry86fan wrote:Fred thanks i just do not see him coming back at all. I think by redoing the cds this is his swan song. It will be all over the boards now they are going to be hoping he will be back. And i just don't see it at all.


Me neither. I hope that any future releases are NOT just redos of previously released material. However, I seem to remember a question that was asked by him in an interview on the 'Net somewhere (probably Fan Asylum) in which someone asked if he had anymore previously unreleased material from Alien Project. His answer was "No, that was it." Obviously, there could be a good deal of unpublished material from the FTLOSM music that didn't make it to the CD. It would be nice to hear some of it. Chances are though it's either not finished or not to Perry's liking, but who knows?
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Postby fred_journeyman » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:48 pm

PROPERRY wrote:There are some here that seem to THINK they know what Perry "will do" or "won't do", but unlike some others here, I'll always hold out HOPE that Perry will do a solo project, or do another project with some musicians some day soon. To ME, Perry will always remain the BEST!!!


Lori,

I don't think people need to constantly say "THIS IS MY OPINION" when making a statement, especially when it pertains to Perry. It should simply be accepted as an opinion. You're right, no one knows what's going to happen in the MidEast tomorrow, much less with Perry. However, I can take a very good educated guess and state that more people will die in the MidEast tomorrow, based on what has taken place already. I simply do the same with Perry. Could I be wrong? Of course. Still, I base my OPINIONS on what I have seen AND heard from Perry over the last 8 to 10 years. There is nothing wrong with that and it shouldn't really bother you if EVERYONE on this board were of the same mind.

Would I like to hear something new from Perry? Of course, as would many here. Do I THINK it will happen? No, I don't. I should not have to say that this is my OPINION. It should speak for itself.

As you've stated, as I've stated and as others have stated, unless something is an unequivocal and undisputed FACT, it is opinion. It's absurd to think that everytime someone states an opinion, they need to preface it with "IMO." I can believe something with every ounce of energy in my being, but unless I can prove it, it's just an opinion.
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Postby jabber » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:25 pm

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Perry86fan wrote:Fred thanks i just do not see him coming back at all. I think by redoing the cds this is his swan song. It will be all over the boards now they are going to be hoping he will be back. And i just don't see it at all.


Me neither. I hope that any future releases are NOT just redos of previously released material. However, I seem to remember a question that was asked by him in an interview on the 'Net somewhere (probably Fan Asylum) in which someone asked if he had anymore previously unreleased material from Alien Project. His answer was "No, that was it." Obviously, there could be a good deal of unpublished material from the FTLOSM music that didn't make it to the CD. It would be nice to hear some of it. Chances are though it's either not finished or not to Perry's liking, but who knows?

What I read re: Alien Project was that he had the masters of the demos and "they sound great." Perry went on to mention "If You Need Me, Call Me" on his album, but never said whether he'd release the other songs from the demo.

Those are the ones I want to hear, as my copy sounds like crap. It's such a teaser to hear some of the best notes and vocals through what sounds like someone holding a cassette recorder up to a reel-to-reel player. (Probably what it was, come to think of it.) If there is no new music from Perry, that demo release would make me just about as happy.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:46 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:I predict JSS going down in flames. He is not that unique for a Journey frontman which is the same problem that Augeri had. Journey had a unique frontman and it will only take someone as unique a Perry to replace him or else it's just a vocalist going through the motions, imo.


I will suck off off Barry Manilow to completion if JSS fails, or "goes down in flames." I know better.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:02 pm

The problem with Soto is this. Journey's bread and butter is touring. However, JSS does not sound enough like Perry for the casual concert-goer to keep coming back. You probably hear karaoke singers that sound closer to Perry than Soto. And I'm not knocking Jeff. I think he's awesome. 8 years ago this might have worked but they're too late in their careers to give this a shot. So unless you're assuming JSS is gonna record a ground-breaking album that is gonna sell and bring in new fans, I don't see how it's gonna work. For this tour, I think it's cool, but for the long haul I have reservations. It seems to me that it's Perry or bust. As always, he's holding all the cards. Pucker up Neal.
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Postby brywool » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:47 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Perry86fan wrote:That remark is very uncalled for. :x :evil: Do you know for a fact he dose this?I just bet you don't and even if did it is still uncalled for. Let me ask you this have you ever walked in his shoes at anytime in his life? and we know the answer is NO So i say shut the f*** up then. :evil:


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Thank GOD somebody else said this. I had somebody whining at me because I repeated the Perry cola rumours. I almost told them to go to Back Talk or get stuffed but held it in. Geez.
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