The writing on the wall

[Carlitto H@kk]

... I just can't keep all the threads together?!?!?!?!?!?
HELP ME JESUS! HELP ME OPRAH! HELP ME TOM CRUISE!!!

So, is that Perry w/ all the PerryHeads???
Or is it Augeri w/ all the AugeriHeads???
Or could it be JSS and all his new female Journey fans???

[conversationpc]

... I just can't keep all the threads together?!?!?!?!?!?
HELP ME JESUS! HELP ME OPRAH! HELP ME TOM CRUISE!!!

So, is that Perry w/ all the PerryHeads???
Or is it Augeri w/ all the AugeriHeads???
Or could it be JSS and all his new female Journey fans???

ALL of the above.

[Carlitto H@kk]

... I just can't keep all the threads together?!?!?!?!?!?
HELP ME JESUS! HELP ME OPRAH! HELP ME TOM CRUISE!!!

So, is that Perry w/ all the PerryHeads???
Or is it Augeri w/ all the AugeriHeads???
Or could it be JSS and all his new female Journey fans???

ALL of the above.

Actually I think it is ANDREW...

Andrew you devilish terd!!! Thanks for putting up this demon-site and getting us all sucked into your private HELL!!!

God Damn, I LOVE this site

[perryslave]

This is fun! Isn't it?

[NealIsGod]

I think it's Deano and his blog disciples.

[SF-Dano]

IMO they could have avoided this whole mess if they just wouldn't have screwd over Steve Perry in the first place.

We all know that "TBF" would have sold extremely well even without promotion. It would not have killed them to just let it go for that one album, let steve get over the hip thing then start again fresh. BUT NO!!! I honestly believe that neal was just looking for any excuse he could find to oust perry. But it has come back to haunt him. Steadily declining record sales, poor concert attendance( comparable to SP days) waining interest by the public in general(not the handfull of post perry fanatics) Huge continuing interest in perry era journey material as evidenced by new interest in "DSB" which pushed that album to "diamond" status, the fact that the "81 houston dvd just went "platinum"(in less than a year) and a steady rise of daily new interest in SP as evidenced by a surge of new registrations on every major perry board out there(whether he does anything or not!) And last but certainly not least this lead singer debocle. The facts speak for themselves!

And this is an improvement? I'd rather see SP on a short tour than any of these other people on a long one. At least with perry you get the real deal! And blah! blah! blah!, just proves you can't dispute any of the facts that were stated.

Irregardless that does no change the facts! More successful with Perry-Less successful without! The beatles sold millions w/out touring as did pink floyd, the eagles etc, etc.... You know neal was jealous of him-never wanted him the band in the first place. I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

Holy steeming pile of guano Batman

[Clasicrockldy]

LOLOL Dano ! That is funny.....

[conversationpc]

Irregardless that does no change the facts! More successful with Perry-Less successful without! The beatles sold millions w/out touring as did pink floyd, the eagles etc, etc.... You know neal was jealous of him-never wanted him the band in the first place. I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

It's true that Neal, and all the other guys in the band for that matter, didn't initially want Perry in the band. However, they said they eventually "saw the light".

Also, "irregardless" is not an actual word.

[NealIsGod]

Also, "irregardless" is not an actual word.

THANK YOU. That is a pet peeve of mine. It's simply, "regardless". So many people do that.

[Clasicrockldy]

We all know that "TBF" would have sold extremely well even without promotion. It would not have killed them to just let it go for that one album, let steve get over the hip thing then start again fresh. BUT NO!!! I honestly believe that neal was just looking for any excuse he could find to oust perry. But it has come back to haunt him. Steadily declining record sales, poor concert attendance( comparable to SP days) waining interest by the public in general(not the handfull of post perry fanatics) Huge continuing interest in perry era journey material as evidenced by new interest in "DSB" which pushed that album to "diamond" status, the fact that the "81 houston dvd just went "platinum"(in less than a year) and a steady rise of daily new interest in SP as evidenced by a surge of new registrations on every major perry board out there(whether he does anything or not!) And last but certainly not least this lead singer debocle. The facts speak for themselves!

Oh Boy....... where do I start?

Perryslave, before reading the post below and getting your panties in a bunch, I want to let you know flat out that I am a Perry fan. But I am also a realist. That said......... read on...........

Are you forgetting that Steve put the rest of the band on hold since 87? When he cut short that tour? Hell, that was almost 9 years ! Neal, from my observation, can't sit still and he loves to play music and tour. I can understand his frustration when Steve once again after TBF was released, he put them on hold once again. I don't believe Neal was looking for any excuse to oust Steve, he just wanted to get out there and play music. They gave Steve about 2 years to make a decision about his hip. When Steve couldn't commit to a tour, Neal had to do what he had to do. How much longer did you think they should of given Steve?

And as for the band today not being up there on the charts, etc, like they were back in the 80's.....With the state the music industry is in today, it would be highly doubtful that Journey with Steve Perry would be as popular as you think they would be. Being gone 9 years did not help them either. The music industry is very fickle, and from what I have seen in my long life, it is now the Britney Spears, et al, that music lovers want now.

[jrnyman28]

I'm curious about last nights show in Denver. Up until the break, Jon would introduce Jeff to the crowd by telling them of "Steve Augeri is ill and couldn't be here with us so our friend blah blah blah"...
How was Jeff introduced last night, if at all?

Jon said nothing about Steve. I think JSS mentioned Steve, he DID talk before the show about "stepping in". But the sound was difficult from where I sat, so when he was talking I had no real idea what he was saying.

[Clasicrockldy]

and a steady rise of daily new interest in SP as evidenced by a surge of new registrations on every major perry board out there(whether he does anything or not!)

Sorry to burst your bubble on this one Perryslave......... the surges of new registrations at Perry boards are due to the appearance he made in the WOF Ceremony to receive the Star, The White Sox,and last May at the WOF star. Especially the one where the ladies of that site were the ones who got to meet him at the WOF had a big surge of new members.

I am a member of almost every Perry board around, save one, and I don't see any surges in their new members. I have seen trickles of new members since the appearances, not surges. I have no clue where your getting your information from.

[Clasicrockldy]

Sorry...... double post.

[A Fire Inside]

Your a Perry slave.... okay, did your master make you say this??

Kinky!

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...

Wow, what a worthwhile contribution to this thread.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Also, "irregardless" is not an actual word.

THANK YOU. That is a pet peeve of mine. It's simply, "regardless". So many people do that.

Get over it. Here is a good place to go blow some steam: http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/g ... ssion.html

[scarygirl]

We all know that "TBF" would have sold extremely well even without promotion. It would not have killed them to just let it go for that one album, let steve get over the hip thing then start again fresh. BUT NO!!! I honestly believe that neal was just looking for any excuse he could find to oust perry. But it has come back to haunt him. Steadily declining record sales, poor concert attendance( comparable to SP days) waining interest by the public in general(not the handfull of post perry fanatics) Huge continuing interest in perry era journey material as evidenced by new interest in "DSB" which pushed that album to "diamond" status, the fact that the "81 houston dvd just went "platinum"(in less than a year) and a steady rise of daily new interest in SP as evidenced by a surge of new registrations on every major perry board out there(whether he does anything or not!) And last but certainly not least this lead singer debocle. The facts speak for themselves!

Oh Boy....... where do I start?

Perryslave, before reading the post below and getting your panties in a bunch, I want to let you know flat out that I am a Perry fan. But I am also a realist. That said......... read on...........

Are you forgetting that Steve put the rest of the band on hold since 87? When he cut short that tour? Hell, that was almost 9 years ! Neal, from my observation, can't sit still and he loves to play music and tour. I can understand his frustration when Steve once again after TBF was released, he put them on hold once again. I don't believe Neal was looking for any excuse to oust Steve, he just wanted to get out there and play music. They gave Steve about 2 years to make a decision about his hip. When Steve couldn't commit to a tour, Neal had to do what he had to do. How much longer did you think they should of given Steve?

And as for the band today not being up there on the charts, etc, like they were back in the 80's.....With the state the music industry is in today, it would be highly doubtful that Journey with Steve Perry would be as popular as you think they would be. Being gone 9 years did not help them either. The music industry is very fickle, and from what I have seen in my long life, it is now the Britney Spears, et al, that music lovers want now.

I belong to All Things Steve Perry and while I have seen quite a few join as of late, out of the 391 or so members, only 12 of us post on a regular basis. Not holding my breath for a SP comeback, but it would be sweet, especially, since I was too young to drive during his Journey glory days. I've never seen him live, I hope to get my chance soon.

[Ms_M]

I love this site!!!

Thread about Augeri = let's fight about Perry
Thread about Perry = let's fight about JSS
Thread about JSS = let's fight about Augeri

... I just can't keep all the threads together?!?!?!?!?!?
HELP ME JESUS! HELP ME OPRAH! HELP ME TOM CRUISE!!!

Wasn't there something about Tom's Witchcraft, too???

[Ms_M]

I'm curious about last nights show in Denver. Up until the break, Jon would introduce Jeff to the crowd by telling them of "Steve Augeri is ill and couldn't be here with us so our friend blah blah blah"...
How was Jeff introduced last night, if at all?

Jon said nothing about Steve. I think JSS mentioned Steve, he DID talk before the show about "stepping in". But the sound was difficult from where I sat, so when he was talking I had no real idea what he was saying.

That's certainly an interesting piece of info... Not that I'm stirring a pot or anything!

[rtz]

I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

Yes, the rest of the original band members brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was simply the momentum that Perry brought them from his already raging musical fame and millions of record sales that finally made Journey a household name. It was so big of Perry to give up such an amazing solo career to save the rest of Journey

[Clasicrockldy]

I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

Yes, the rest of the original band members brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was simply the momentum that Perry brought them from his already raging musical fame and millions of record sales that finally made Journey a household name. It was so big of Perry to give up such an amazing solo career to save the rest of Journey

rtz, you hit the nail on the head !

Actually perryslave, both Steve and Journey were not doing so well in the music industry. Steve was out repairing turkey coops to make some bucks, and Journey was about to lose it's contract with Columbia. It was when Herbie got a tape of Steve singing, brought Steve in, and then they both took off. It just wasn't Steve alone who got them where they were back in the 80's. It was an effort of the ENTIRE BAND together that did it.

Now you may think that I am not a Perry fan, but I am. But I am also a realist. I see the whole picture here and not one of the members is a saint. Why don't you look at the bigger picture here..........

[Jeremey fan forever]

I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

Yes, the rest of the original band members brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was simply the momentum that Perry brought them from his already raging musical fame and millions of record sales that finally made Journey a household name. It was so big of Perry to give up such an amazing solo career to save the rest of Journey

rtz, you hit the nail on the head !

Actually perryslave, both Steve and Journey were not doing so well in the music industry. Steve was out repairing turkey coops to make some bucks, and Journey was about to lose it's contract with Columbia. It was when Herbie got a tape of Steve singing, brought Steve in, and then they both took off. It just wasn't Steve alone who got them where they were back in the 80's. It was an effort of the ENTIRE BAND together that did it.

Now you may think that I am not a Perry fan, but I am. But I am also a realist. I see the whole picture here and not one of the members is a saint. Why don't you look at the bigger picture here..........

You make a lot of sense and you're right about everything you said! You should say more sometimes. I thought you only cared about boots!

[A Fire Inside]

Now you may think that I am not a Perry fan, but I am. But I am also a realist. I see the whole picture here and not one of the members is a saint. Why don't you look at the bigger picture here..........

So many Perry fans SAY that they know he is not a saint but don't seem to practice what they preach... you are the exception, CRL. Nice post, you are definitely not a loon.

[Clasicrockldy]

Now you may think that I am not a Perry fan, but I am. But I am also a realist. I see the whole picture here and not one of the members is a saint. Why don't you look at the bigger picture here..........

So many Perry fans SAY that they know he is not a saint but don't seem to practice what they preach... you are the exception, CRL. Nice post, you are definitely not a loon.

Thank you Fire !

[squirt1]

I believe that Perry stated in BTM and other interviews that they were the SUM OF THEIR PARTS!!!!!! That means he knew that separate would be as successful as toghther.

[Clasicrockldy]

I guess in his mind it would have been better to have faded into obscurity in the early '70's than to be at the place that SP elevated them to.

Yes, the rest of the original band members brought absolutely nothing to the table. It was simply the momentum that Perry brought them from his already raging musical fame and millions of record sales that finally made Journey a household name. It was so big of Perry to give up such an amazing solo career to save the rest of Journey

rtz, you hit the nail on the head !

Actually perryslave, both Steve and Journey were not doing so well in the music industry. Steve was out repairing turkey coops to make some bucks, and Journey was about to lose it's contract with Columbia. It was when Herbie got a tape of Steve singing, brought Steve in, and then they both took off. It just wasn't Steve alone who got them where they were back in the 80's. It was an effort of the ENTIRE BAND together that did it.

Now you may think that I am not a Perry fan, but I am. But I am also a realist. I see the whole picture here and not one of the members is a saint. Why don't you look at the bigger picture here..........

You make a lot of sense and you're right about everything you said! You should say more sometimes. I thought you only cared about boots!

LOLOL ! I do care about boots and yeah I should say more in the threads. The posts from perryslave got to me today, so I had to say something !

[Clasicrockldy]

I believe that Perry stated in BTM and other interviews that they were the SUM OF THEIR PARTS!!!!!! That means he knew that separate would be as successful as toghther.

Hey squirt1, do you mean that "they knew that separate wouldn't be as successful as being together?

Absolutely, Journey at that time was the sum of their indivdual parts that they brought to the band. I can honestly say that for awhile, I didn't have the realist view that I have now of the whole picture of Journey. It was thru my reading and thinking over the whole thing that I became a realist about it. In as much as I like Perry, he was only one part of the band that we love. I wish other fans of Perry could see the band as I see the band, but that will never happen unless they open themselves up to the info out there.

[squirt1]

Oops !!! I left off the important word -NOT be a as successful.

[Clasicrockldy]

Oops !!! I left off the important word -NOT be a as successful.

Hey squirt1, that is ok. I did get what you meant.

Welcome to MR ! Just strap in and enjoy a wild ride !

[mack]

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)

[Clasicrockldy]

If they want a great substitue until Augeri gets better, why don't they give HUGO a tryout.
As great a singer as Soto is, he is not right for this band.
At least give the fans the sound they want until Steve can come back. It will make for a great show.
HUGO is definitely the guy for this, he is doing a Journey tribute band now. Check out his website at journeyshow.com
It would be a story just like the movie Rockstar, guy gets to live out a dream.
(Soto could appreciate a story like that)

Has everyone seen this same paragraph in other threads? 24 posts........ sheesh. Like Journey doesn't know about Hugo already..........