Faith in the Heartland (live) JSS audio

[ArnelRox]

"I never liked this song that much anyway."

Your Perryonly card is showing. The band's moved on and then some.

Ur certainly entitled to ur opinion. But obviously u don't allow me to have one of my own. A bit hypocritical huh?

I don't care for FITH as a song sorry. I believe I have the rite to like & dislike certain songs. It's a free country.

IMHO FITH is a lame attempt to recreate an 80s sounding Journey & that was not the rite thing to do in '01. Now there have been 2 songs post-Perry that I really liked. The 1st is A Better Life. I think that should have been released as a single. B4 u slam my ass for picking a non-Augeri lead one, the 2nd is Kiss Me Softly which I think was perfect for today's music. It also beautifully suited Augeri's voice. IMO again, if they had released those as singles instead of the AOR sounding songs they might actually have gotten some airplay.

One of the many things they lost w/Perry was his genius ability to move w/the times. They had a distinct 70s sound that carried into Departure. Then an early 80s sound with many hits on the next albums. Then ROR gave them the mid 80s sound they needed. Then TBF brought them another hit because of the 90s sound. So far they have not given themselves an update into a new millenium sound. I would like nothing more than to see JSS give them that punch. I dont think thats showing my Perryonly card now is it?

[McNeil]

Holy cow Jeremey. That Stay Awhile clip. Yowsa! U just blew me away. U sure got a set of pipes on u. U can hit em & hold em that's for sure.

I love the fact that it's not a Perry imitation. U put ur own voice into it but hold true to the classic Perry sound. The one thing that spooks me about Hugo is that it's such a Perry imitation all around (not just his looks) & his voice doesn't have the magic. Urs does.

Oh & u look awesome in the coat tails w/leather pants. I like that. Do u ever get down to Florida at all?

I loved the comment there that ur better than Augeri! Hee hee.

Only thing I was wondering about. All the songs seem a bit faster to me then Journey versions. Is that my imagination or do u that deliberately? If so, do u mind me asking why?

Jeez people...

u r all way behind the times with Jeremy...we have been constantly talkin bout the guy!!

He is the real replacement for Perry/Augeri.. not JSS !!

[The_Noble_Cause]

IMHO FITH is a lame attempt to recreate an 80s sounding Journey & that was not the rite thing to do in '01.

I think FITH is a true Journey epic!
More songs like these please.

I have no problem with JourneyRox's opinion.

[ArnelRox]

I think FITH is a true Journey epic!
More songs like these please.

I have no problem with JourneyRox's opinion.

TY TNC. I always tho't the magic of Journey is there's a song or 2 in that catalogue for everyone. My "Barry Fagilow/Andy Gibb/Shaun Cassidy" loving friend thinks Open Arms & Faithfully are the bomb. My long haired rocking dude "Slayer/Family/Ramones" loving friend takes the top of his car & cruises down the highway to Wheel In the Sky & Edge of the Blade. Like I said...something for everyone.

[Jeremey]

Jeremey, good to see you around. You guys been playing lately? Any shows this weekend? You still coming to No. VA in October?

Any luck on that possible Maryland gig?

I think NealisGod and I will be making the road trip to No VA though. I used to live in Reston, VA.

Thanks - Definitely come to the Clarendon gig - It is quite an experience...

We will be doing Santa Fe Cafe in College Park in December as well - I believe the 2nd Saturday? If you are close by that is a good show also, but a totally different crowd (college) than Clarendon....Hope to see you there!

[Red13JoePa]

.JSS is every bit as capable of carrying on this catalogue and going forward as Augeri was.

Fuck I certainly hope so.

Ah....not a doubt. He's gonna SOUND different than SP, SA, DC....I thought that would be an issue.

Until I started hearing him covering the material and then got the whole Atlanata show which kicked ass and he was, what? 1st week then?

[Jeremey]

Holy cow Jeremey. That Stay Awhile clip. Yowsa! U just blew me away. U sure got a set of pipes on u. U can hit em & hold em that's for sure.

I love the fact that it's not a Perry imitation. U put ur own voice into it but hold true to the classic Perry sound. The one thing that spooks me about Hugo is that it's such a Perry imitation all around (not just his looks) & his voice doesn't have the magic. Urs does.

Oh & u look awesome in the coat tails w/leather pants. I like that. Do u ever get down to Florida at all?

I loved the comment there that ur better than Augeri! Hee hee.

Only thing I was wondering about. All the songs seem a bit faster to me then Journey versions. Is that my imagination or do u that deliberately? If so, do u mind me asking why?

Thanks a lot , JourneyRox! We have done a corporate show in FL, but the $$ for clubs isn't enough to pay for travel time and gas, etc....Gregg Rolie plays at Rib Fest in Tampa almost every year - If someone can get in touch with Gregg and get me down there to sing a few songs with him, then I'd have a chance to do a FL show!

We play the songs faster pretty much due to sheer adrenaline. Journey used to play songs way too fast, in my opinion, but with 2 guitar players, our live sound is a bit heavier rhythmically, and with a little faster clip to the songs it translates better live.

[Red13JoePa]

"I never liked this song that much anyway."

Your Perryonly card is showing. The band's moved on and then some.

Ur certainly entitled to ur opinion. But obviously u don't allow me to have one of my own. A bit hypocritical huh?

I don't care for FITH as a song sorry. I believe I have the rite to like & dislike certain songs. It's a free country.

IMHO FITH is a lame attempt to recreate an 80s sounding Journey & that was not the rite thing to do in '01. Now there have been 2 songs post-Perry that I really liked. The 1st is A Better Life. I think that should have been released as a single. B4 u slam my ass for picking a non-Augeri lead one, the 2nd is Kiss Me Softly which I think was perfect for today's music. It also beautifully suited Augeri's voice. IMO again, if they had released those as singles instead of the AOR sounding songs they might actually have gotten some airplay.

One of the many things they lost w/Perry was his genius ability to move w/the times. They had a distinct 70s sound that carried into Departure. Then an early 80s sound with many hits on the next albums. Then ROR gave them the mid 80s sound they needed. Then TBF brought them another hit because of the 90s sound. So far they have not given themselves an update into a new millenium sound. I would like nothing more than to see JSS give them that punch. I dont think thats showing my Perryonly card now is it?

Er, hold it here. "Hypocritical?" Who was the first to whine "What ?" when I expressed a positive opinion about JSS' coverage of Faith In The Heartland?

Only Perry "moved" with the times on those albums while the other 4 guys remained locked in a time warp? What bass, drum, keys, and guitar parts did he write and play on those records?

[SteveForever]

So what if it has a reflection of 80's? Faith in the Heartland still sounds great! look how many Rocky's they made, they were all good, well sort of. But, FITH is an awesome song and everytime you listen to it =it gets better! I never got to see Steve A. in concert, but he sounds great on this I think.

[Matthew]

So what if it has a reflection of 80's? Faith in the Heartland still sounds great! look how many Rocky's they made, they were all good, well sort of. But, FITH is an awesome song and everytime you listen to it =it gets better! I never got to see Steve A. in concert, but he sounds great on this I think.

Well, most franchises get pretty watered down and formulaic by the fifth sequel...

But I reckon the song's okay...even though the influence of mid-80s U2 shows just how backward-looking Journey's song-writing had become in 2005.

[AR]

IMHO FITH is a lame attempt to recreate an 80s sounding Journey & that was not the rite thing to do in '01.

Disagree. Arrival is a great album. As good as almost anything they have ever done. We all hear and enjoy things differently and of course you are entitled to your opinion.

I think "Arrival" sells several million copies if released in 1986 and no one says that Steve Perry isn't on it. With some backing it may have done at least ok in 2001.

Just my opinion.

Not a big fan of Red 13 or Generations though to be quite honest. They are decent, but don't blow me away.

[fred_journeyman]

He is the real replacement for Perry/Augeri.. not JSS !!

Yeah, but JEREMY...can you WRITE music?

[Jeremey]

He is the real replacement for Perry/Augeri.. not JSS !!

Yeah, but JEREMY...can you WRITE music?

Hmm...I've written at least as much as Steve Augeri in the past 8 years...Does that count?!

Sorry, had to throw that in there.

[fred_journeyman]

Sorry, had to throw that in there.

Why yes...yes it does.

[AR]

Quote:
Jeremey, good to see you around. You guys been playing lately? Any shows this weekend? You still coming to No. VA in October?

Any luck on that possible Maryland gig?

I think NealisGod and I will be making the road trip to No VA though. I used to live in Reston, VA.


Thanks - Definitely come to the Clarendon gig - It is quite an experience...

We will be doing Santa Fe Cafe in College Park in December as well - I believe the 2nd Saturday? If you are close by that is a good show also, but a totally different crowd (college) than Clarendon....Hope to see you there!

Nigy and I are both in the Baltimore area, so College Park and/or No Va are fairly easy to make. Hopefully we'll make both shows.

[Calbear94]

Augeri has admitted that he is not a great songwriter (he mentioned how having a Mac and software really helped him to write).

The real issue is that there appears to be little magic left between Cain and Schon. Schon writes so much with outside people and musically Cain and Schon seem so far apart. On most Cain songs, the keyboards/piano is too out in front and on Schon songs the guitar is too prominent (rather than picking his spots, his playing is loud and constant throughtout). They're not complimenting each other the way they used to..its more of a 'you write yours and I'll write mine' situation.

[fred_journeyman]

Nigy and I are both in the Baltimore area, so College Park and/or No Va are fairly easy to make. Hopefully we'll make both shows.

Yeah, well I'll tell ya what...it SUCKS that I'm on the West Coast and Jeremy's band is on the EAST. That's just not right...not right at all.

[Calbear94]

...and there is no Perry to say 'this stinks, lets re-do it'.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Augeri has admitted that he is not a great songwriter (he mentioned how having a Mac and software really helped him to write).

He mentioned that the Mac program was helpful, but he never explicitly stated that he was "not a great songwriter".

The real issue is that there appears to be little magic left between Cain and Schon. Schon writes so much with outside people and musically Cain and Schon seem so far apart. On most Cain songs, the keyboards/piano is too out in front and on Schon songs the guitar is too prominent (rather than picking his spots, his playing is loud and constant throughtout). They're not complimenting each other the way they used to..its more of a 'you write yours and I'll write mine' situation.

Examples?
You remind me of HOTS and her sweeping review of 'Generations',
"There's Too Much Guitar!"

[Calbear94]

Read the Arrival Augeri interview...he definitely implied that he does not consider himself to be in Cain's and Schon's league when it comes to songwriting.

Take a look at the writing credits for Arrival...it's a two headed monster with ballads dominated by Cain and unispired rockers dominated by Schon.

I could give my opinion about Generations song-by-song, but it would take me hours to listen and write. In the end, would you even give a shit anyhow? You obviously have your opinions and I have mine. I am not a musician, I can only describe what I hear in non-technical terms. You don't speak very technically in your posts...so get off my case.

[AR]

Take a look at the writing credits for Arrival...it's a two headed monster with ballads dominated by Cain and unispired rockers dominated by Schon.

Higher Place is uninspired?

Signs of Life, and To Be Alive Again fucking ROCK!

With Your Love was my wedding song.

Great album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's ok, I will stand on my island alone.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Read the Arrival Augeri interview...he definitely implied that he does not consider himself to be in Cain's and Schon's league when it comes to songwriting.

But you made it sound like he flat-out admitted that he was a worthless carpetbagger or something.

Take a look at the writing credits for Arrival...it's a two headed monster with ballads dominated by Cain and unispired rockers dominated by Schon.

Don't hear that at all. Only "World Gone Wild" features Neal grandstanding. And in my opinion, it works!

I could give my opinion about Generations song-by-song, but it would take me hours to listen and write.

More likely you simply can't back up your own daft opinions

[The_Noble_Cause]

Higher Place is uninspired?

Signs of Life, and To Be Alive Again fucking ROCK!

All great tunes.
You just know if Perry was singing on them this person wouldn't find any reason to bitch.

[JrnySuxBalls]

Only "World Gone Wild" features Neal grandstanding. And in my opinion, it works!

Grandstanding? That's funny.