An Open Letter To All MR Journey Fans

[fred_journeyman]

Perry's vocals on ROR are undeniably awesome. In fact, it's possibly the greatest vocal performance ever...by any artist.

I'm sure many Journey fans did go "WTF". And what's wrong with that? The band took a risk...the sound of the band had evolved...they didn't want to churn out the same old album. Let's hope Journey try to emulate some of that adventurous spirit now that JSS is in the band...a spirit that has been almost entirely absent for twenty years.

By the way...that sax solo on "Positive Touch" is a timeless classic.

I agree that Perry did a phenomenal job on Eyes of a Woman, Happy to Give, I'll Be All Right Without You and Why Can't This Night Go on Forever, but Girl Can't Help It and Positive Touch and definitely not my favorites. Suzanne is just okay. It Could Have Been You is not a bad tune either.

Happy to Give is probably one of my Perry favorites, with Eyes of a Woman coming in a close second. These are just incredible songs.

The interesting thing about ROR (and for the record, I have an actual ROR album framed on my wall), it's an eclectic mix of music and yes, I think it leaves the average Journey fan scratching their head because they're not sure what to make of it. It kind of reminds me of the one song Baby I'm a Leavin' You on TBF. When I first heard it, I thought "What is THAT?" It just didn't seem to fit the overall tone of the CD.

But opinions, such as they are, are up for grabs anyway.

[ProgRocker53]

ROR was indeed a change of pace... and I have to say, I actually enjoyed it.

While Ross is an awesome bassist, Randy Jackson really put out some low-down funky grooves that I particularly liked. "Be Good To Yourself," "Girl Can't Help It," "I'll Be Alright Without You," "Suzanne," and "Positive Touch" are some of my favorite Journey songs of all time.

[fred_journeyman]

ROR was indeed a change of pace... and I have to say, I actually enjoyed it.

While Ross is an awesome bassist, Randy Jackson really put out some low-down funky grooves that I particularly liked. "Be Good To Yourself," "Girl Can't Help It," "I'll Be Alright Without You," "Suzanne," and "Positive Touch" are some of my favorite Journey songs of all time.

To each their own, right?

[The Ghost Rider]

Ok you Motherfucker. You just picked the wrong fight.

Neal Schon IS to blame. At least as much as Augeri...and the rest of the people involved. You know it and I know it. The only difference is I'm not kissing their asses like you are.

Excuse me. Sure they are all wrong, but no one is more guilty than Augeri. HE could have himself stopped it. But HE knew if he stopped it, HE would no longer have a gravy train job. See, what you and other dumbfucks do not understand, is Augeri knew back in 2003 he could NOT do this job. HE needed tapes and HAD ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM using them to save his own ass. HE was the weak link. Last time I checked, Schon plays the guitar pretty fucking well, Deen plays the drums pretty fucking well, The Frig plays the piano pretty fucking well, and Valory plays the bass pretty fucking well. Augeri could NOT sing a lick, at all. Some of the member DID NOT know just how much he was syncing. They play their instruments. Some of the members didn't even have him in their mix!

Kissing ass? I will tell Schon to his face they fucked up. If you remember anything from that whole episode, I DID say that when the band goes all live, this entire Tape Gate discussion will cease. They did, the Blog came down immediately, and they have moved on and so have I. Like I said, the 4 remaining members play well enough to NOT have to use tricks. That's like me going up on stage and playing a guitar to Neal's tape. Unacceptable.

No. He was human. If he was "shit", as you say, they would have got rid of him a long time ago.

Not that easy. Management would cut him off. Don't ask me why. THIS is wht Azoff needs to be booted off an airplane in mid flight.

So you hate Steve Augeri, we get it...good for you. Why don't you get the hell over it already. Leave the man alone, and let him move on with his life. Jesus...nothing like kicking a man when he's down. Does that make you feel like a bigger man?

I am a bigger man than Augeri. You don't see me up there on stage faking my way through songs. If I was perry, I would fly out to NY and throttle his ass for making a mockery of the songs I wrote and sang, and subsequently made great.

Kick a man when he is down? I wish I could interview him, face to face. See him squirm in those red leather pants. I am not the least shameful of what I did. However, Steve Augeri is sure as fuck shamed and should be. I would do the exact same thing to JSS if he pulled that shit. JSS would never do that, and if I did expose JSS, he would come over and try to kick my ass. JSS is a dude, Augeri is a bitch.

When they "officially" kick his ass out of Journey, I will not "kick him anylonger."

Go watch the Beacon NY show. Watch him show all his emotion, patting his chest, gripping his heart..It is sickening. He is looking right at Schon. Schon had no idea how much syncing was actually happening.

Not gonna' waste anymore of my time on this. I'll stand by my "dumbfuck" opinion...and you can stand by yours.

[treetopovskaya]

bottom line... if they were doing things they shouldn't have been doing all of them are at fault. to put most of the blame on steve augeri is just bs.

[treetopovskaya]

Ok you Motherfucker. You just picked the wrong fight.

Neal Schon IS to blame. At least as much as Augeri...and the rest of the people involved. You know it and I know it. The only difference is I'm not kissing their asses like you are.

Excuse me. Sure they are all wrong, but no one is more guilty than Augeri. HE could have himself stopped it. But HE knew if he stopped it, HE would no longer have a gravy train job. See, what you and other dumbfucks do not understand, is Augeri knew back in 2003 he could NOT do this job. HE needed tapes and HAD ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM using them to save his own ass. HE was the weak link. Last time I checked, Schon plays the guitar pretty fucking well, Deen plays the drums pretty fucking well, The Frig plays the piano pretty fucking well, and Valory plays the bass pretty fucking well. Augeri could NOT sing a lick, at all. Some of the member DID NOT know just how much he was syncing. They play their instruments. Some of the members didn't even have him in their mix!

Kissing ass? I will tell Schon to his face they fucked up. If you remember anything from that whole episode, I DID say that when the band goes all live, this entire Tape Gate discussion will cease. They did, the Blog came down immediately, and they have moved on and so have I. Like I said, the 4 remaining members play well enough to NOT have to use tricks. That's like me going up on stage and playing a guitar to Neal's tape. Unacceptable.

No. He was human. If he was "shit", as you say, they would have got rid of him a long time ago.

Not that easy. Management would cut him off. Don't ask me why. THIS is wht Azoff needs to be booted off an airplane in mid flight.

So you hate Steve Augeri, we get it...good for you. Why don't you get the hell over it already. Leave the man alone, and let him move on with his life. Jesus...nothing like kicking a man when he's down. Does that make you feel like a bigger man?

I am a bigger man than Augeri. You don't see me up there on stage faking my way through songs. If I was perry, I would fly out to NY and throttle his ass for making a mockery of the songs I wrote and sang, and subsequently made great.

Kick a man when he is down? I wish I could interview him, face to face. See him squirm in those red leather pants. I am not the least shameful of what I did. However, Steve Augeri is sure as fuck shamed and should be. I would do the exact same thing to JSS if he pulled that shit. JSS would never do that, and if I did expose JSS, he would come over and try to kick my ass. JSS is a dude, Augeri is a bitch.

When they "officially" kick his ass out of Journey, I will not "kick him anylonger."

Go watch the Beacon NY show. Watch him show all his emotion, patting his chest, gripping his heart..It is sickening. He is looking right at Schon. Schon had no idea how much syncing was actually happening.

if this is true then neal is a dumbass. it's his band... as founding member he should know what's going on & have control.

i love neal... i love journey... but you people are pissing me off. }:C) sorry i'm just not a member of the we hate augeri fan club. }:C\

[Rockindeano]

Not gonna' waste anymore of my time on this. I'll stand by my "dumbfuck" opinion...and you can stand by yours.

Ok. Translated: You have NO idea of what to say, because you have NO idea what you are talking about. Go round up 13, Abitatard, and Monker, and come back for more later.

[Matthew]

Perry's vocals on ROR are undeniably awesome. In fact, it's possibly the greatest vocal performance ever...by any artist.

I'm sure many Journey fans did go "WTF". And what's wrong with that? The band took a risk...the sound of the band had evolved...they didn't want to churn out the same old album. Let's hope Journey try to emulate some of that adventurous spirit now that JSS is in the band...a spirit that has been almost entirely absent for twenty years.

By the way...that sax solo on "Positive Touch" is a timeless classic.

I agree that Perry did a phenomenal job on Eyes of a Woman, Happy to Give, I'll Be All Right Without You and Why Can't This Night Go on Forever, but Girl Can't Help It and Positive Touch and definitely not my favorites. Suzanne is just okay. It Could Have Been You is not a bad tune either.

Happy to Give is probably one of my Perry favorites, with Eyes of a Woman coming in a close second. These are just incredible songs.

The interesting thing about ROR (and for the record, I have an actual ROR album framed on my wall), it's an eclectic mix of music and yes, I think it leaves the average Journey fan scratching their head because they're not sure what to make of it. It kind of reminds me of the one song Baby I'm a Leavin' You on TBF. When I first heard it, I thought "What is THAT?" It just didn't seem to fit the overall tone of the CD.

But opinions, such as they are, are up for grabs anyway.

I agree, Fred. "Happy To Give" and "Eyes of a Woman" are incredible songs. Let's not forget about "Be Good To Yourself" as well...

I'm a big fan of "Girl Can't Help It" and "Suzanne" myself. Where I have a criticism of ROR is that it needed at leasty one more epic-sounding rocker on Side Two (as it used to be on vinyl) - and also I'm not convinced about "Once You Love Somebody".

To my shame I've not heard the two instrumental tracks from the ROR sessions. If anyone has an MP3 of these two tracks I'd love to hear them.

Anyway...overall....I'd still give the album 9/10.

Funny you should say that about your framed ROR album cover....I've got the photo on the ROR inside sleeve framed above my desk.

As for "Baby I'm Leavin' You"....now THAT was a step too far.

[Matthew]

Randy Jackson really put out some low-down funky grooves that I particularly liked.

So true!

[The Ghost Rider]

Not gonna' waste anymore of my time on this. I'll stand by my "dumbfuck" opinion...and you can stand by yours.

Ok. Translated: You have NO idea of what to say, because you have NO idea what you are talking about. Go round up 13, Abitatard, and Monker, and come back for more later.

No. Translated: I'm not gonna' waste anymore of my time arguing with you. I have my opinion...you have yours. I'm not going to change your mind...and YOU are not going to change mine. The end.

[fred_journeyman]

I agree, Fred. "Happy To Give" and "Eyes of a Woman" are incredible songs. Let's not forget about "Be Good To Yourself" as well...

I'm a big fan of "Girl Can't Help It" and "Suzanne" myself. Where I have a criticism of ROR is that it needed at leasty one more epic-sounding rocker on Side Two (as it used to be on vinyl) - and also I'm not convinced about "Once You Love Somebody".

Yeah, that would have been nice.

To my shame I've not heard the two instrumental tracks from the ROR sessions. If anyone has an MP3 of these two tracks I'd love to hear them.

Hey! Me too. Didn't know they existed!

Anyway...overall....I'd still give the album 9/10.

My score is closer to a 7 for the entire album, but if I was to grade individual songs, Happy to Give and Eyes of a Woman would both receive a 10 out of 10.

Funny you should say that about your framed ROR album cover....I've got the photo on the ROR inside sleeve framed above my desk.

I like the picture. Not long ago, I saw (somewhere) that someone was auctioning off the model of the radio station used to create that picture for the album.

As for "Baby I'm Leavin' You"....now THAT was a step too far.

Yeah, definitely did not fit that album at all.

[Matthew]

I agree, Fred. "Happy To Give" and "Eyes of a Woman" are incredible songs. Let's not forget about "Be Good To Yourself" as well...

I'm a big fan of "Girl Can't Help It" and "Suzanne" myself. Where I have a criticism of ROR is that it needed at leasty one more epic-sounding rocker on Side Two (as it used to be on vinyl) - and also I'm not convinced about "Once You Love Somebody".

Yeah, that would have been nice.

To my shame I've not heard the two instrumental tracks from the ROR sessions. If anyone has an MP3 of these two tracks I'd love to hear them.

Hey! Me too. Didn't know they existed!

Anyway...overall....I'd still give the album 9/10.

My score is closer to a 7 for the entire album, but if I was to grade individual songs, Happy to Give and Eyes of a Woman would both receive a 10 out of 10.

Funny you should say that about your framed ROR album cover....I've got the photo on the ROR inside sleeve framed above my desk.

I like the picture. Not long ago, I saw (somewhere) that someone was auctioning off the model of the radio station used to create that picture for the album.

As for "Baby I'm Leavin' You"....now THAT was a step too far.

Yeah, definitely did not fit that album at all.

Hey Fred - how do you use specific quotes with individual replies in your post? I can't seem to get the quote thing to work...

The two instrumental tracks are included in the Time box set, I think....


I would have LOVED the orginal model for the ROR cover! Prairie Prince did the artwork, didn't he?

By the way...seen this? It's the 1986 TV ad for ROR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzzF8TyaTQ

[jrnyjetster]

Warfield wasn't released because Augeri also mimed

Warfield was not mimed. I have it.

The vocal performance just wasn't any good.

Well.. I was THERE, front and center! Augeri was fantastic that night!

[fred_journeyman]

Hey Fred - how do you use specific quotes with individual replies in your post? I can't seem to get the quote thing to work...

The two instrumental tracks are included in the Time box set, I think....


I would have LOVED the orginal model for the ROR cover! Prairie Prince did the artwork, didn't he?

By the way...seen this? It's the 1986 TV ad for ROR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzzF8TyaTQ

Just manually put this [ quote ] with no space between the bracket and the word "quote" at the start of the quote and then this [ /quote ] at the end of the quote, again with no spaces. I usually leave the person's name in there at the beginning and if I only use part of their quote, I use an elipse (...)

Thanks for sharing that ad - no, I had not seen it yet. I'm not sure who did the artwork, but I wouldn't mind having the model either. I'll have to try to find where I saw it...

[Matthew]

Hey Fred - how do you use specific quotes with individual replies in your post? I can't seem to get the quote thing to work...

The two instrumental tracks are included in the Time box set, I think....


I would have LOVED the orginal model for the ROR cover! Prairie Prince did the artwork, didn't he?

By the way...seen this? It's the 1986 TV ad for ROR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzzF8TyaTQ

Just manually put this [ quote ] with no space between the bracket

Let's see if it this works....

[Matthew]

Hey Fred - how do you use specific quotes with individual replies in your post? I can't seem to get the quote thing to work...

The two instrumental tracks are included in the Time box set, I think....


I would have LOVED the orginal model for the ROR cover! Prairie Prince did the artwork, didn't he?

By the way...seen this? It's the 1986 TV ad for ROR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzzF8TyaTQ

Just manually put this [ quote ] with no space between the bracket

Let's see if it this works....

It did! Thanks Fred.

[fred_journeyman]

It did! Thanks Fred.

Glad to help

[Enigma869]

I think one big change recently is that those who were not 100% convinced by SA have found a friendlier climate in which to express these views without being shot down.

This site seems to be a lot more tolerant of differing opinions (with the exception of a few posters). I can assure you that if you go over to the "official" Journey website, you'll be burnt in effagy, if you dare say anything negative about Mr. Augeri! Most of Augeri's chick (old, over the hill broads is probably a more accurate statement!) fans go on and on and on with completely, mindless postings about how "dreamy" Augeri's red leather pants are. I never really had a problem with Augeri...It's his fans I find to be obnoxious. The other issue I always had was some of these yahoos telling me Augeri sang Journey material better than Perry...YEAH RIGHT! I always thought Augeri sang classic Journey material well, but he simply wasn't on the same planet with Perry (and neither is anyone else!).

I don't know much about the whole "tapegate" episode. I've obviously gleaned from much of what I've read here that Augeri was lip syncing at concerts (which is pretty horrendous, in my opinion), and I believe Deano has even suggested the 2001 DVD was "Memorex". That's interesting. I watched that DVD and never had that impression, but hey, what the hell do I know. I'm simply a fan. Can I ask someone what the "smoking gun" is on Augeri lip syncing? For the record, I'm not here to defend Augeri (I'm a Perry fan, 100%). I'd just like to read more about the tapegate issue. I've been a member over at the other site for over 5 years, but that site doesn't really allow for any intelligent conversation, so I'm trying to get myself up to speed on the whole "tapegate" issue. Can someone point me to some evidence???

John from Boston

[Enigma869]

The only Journey I don't consider Journey is that whole Raised On Radio thing. WTF was that all about? [img]

I actually thought Raised on Radio had some solid tracks on it. It was defintiely a bit of a different direction for Journey, as a band. That said, I'll Be Alright Without You was a solid track (IMO), and Why Can't This Night Go On Forever is as good as any ballad Journey has ever recorded (again, IMO). I'll listen to Why Can't This Night Go On Forever over Open Arms 100 out of 100 times! Open Arms simply grates on my nerves! I agree with Neal on that one...A bit too "Mary Poppinish" for my taste!

John from Boston

[conversationpc]

This site seems to be a lot more tolerant of differing opinions (with the exception of a few posters). I can assure you that if you go over to the "official" Journey website, you'll be burnt in effagy, if you dare say anything negative about Mr. Augeri!

That's the way it should be, in my opinion. I don't care to post there much anymore for that reason, but it is the band's official forum, so I don't blame them for not allowing negative talk about the band. That's the whole purpose of having your own site/forum.

[Matthew]

I think one big change recently is that those who were not 100% convinced by SA have found a friendlier climate in which to express these views without being shot down.

This site seems to be a lot more tolerant of differing opinions (with the exception of a few posters). I can assure you that if you go over to the "official" Journey website, you'll be burnt in effagy, if you dare say anything negative about Mr. Augeri! Most of Augeri's chick (old, over the hill broads is probably a more accurate statement!) fans go on and on and on with completely, mindless postings about how "dreamy" Augeri's red leather pants are. I never really had a problem with Augeri...It's his fans I find to be obnoxious.

Yes, I know John. I was banned after only two days there.

I wonder what will happen at BT when JSS is officially announced as the singer? The moderators have spent years banning dissenting Journey fans and have deleted thousands of posts and so on - and yes...the result is that it's now a moronic and cultish pro-Augeri site.

So when the Journey management instructs the official site to endorse JSS will that mean that all the dissenting Augeri fans will be banned - like the Perry fans before them?

BT will either have to find new moderators who aren't on a freakish authority kick - or banish the very cult members they've been trying to encourage and 'protect' all these years.

As for the lip-syncing...I'm don't know how to access old threads here...but I'm sure someone can point you towards all the evidence which Deano, Svante Peterson and others provided.

[Matthew]

The only Journey I don't consider Journey is that whole Raised On Radio thing. WTF was that all about? [img]

Why Can't This Night Go On Forever is as good as any ballad Journey has ever recorded (again, IMO).

John from Boston

I totally agree. For me it's second only to "Faithfully"...

[Matthew]

This site seems to be a lot more tolerant of differing opinions (with the exception of a few posters). I can assure you that if you go over to the "official" Journey website, you'll be burnt in effagy, if you dare say anything negative about Mr. Augeri!

That's the way it should be, in my opinion. I don't care to post there much anymore for that reason, but it is the band's official forum, so I don't blame them for not allowing negative talk about the band. That's the whole purpose of having your own site/forum.

Do you think? I reckon it creates a lousy image for the band on the internet. Journey are a rock band - yet the conversation and imagery on the official site seems lmore appropriate to an act such as...say...Barry Manilow.

A friend of mine who is new to Journey visited the site a couple of weeks ago. He said he was "spooky" and 'mumsy" and he won't be making a return visit.

[Granny]

I think one big change recently is that those who were not 100% convinced by SA have found a friendlier climate in which to express these views without being shot down.

This site seems to be a lot more tolerant of differing opinions (with the exception of a few posters). I can assure you that if you go over to the "official" Journey website, you'll be burnt in effagy, if you dare say anything negative about Mr. Augeri! Most of Augeri's chick (old, over the hill broads is probably a more accurate statement!) fans go on and on and on with completely, mindless postings about how "dreamy" Augeri's red leather pants are. I never really had a problem with Augeri...It's his fans I find to be obnoxious. The other issue I always had was some of these yahoos telling me Augeri sang Journey material better than Perry...YEAH RIGHT! I always thought Augeri sang classic Journey material well, but he simply wasn't on the same planet with Perry (and neither is anyone else!).

I don't know much about the whole "tapegate" episode. I've obviously gleaned from much of what I've read here that Augeri was lip syncing at concerts (which is pretty horrendous, in my opinion), and I believe Deano has even suggested the 2001 DVD was "Memorex". That's interesting. I watched that DVD and never had that impression, but hey, what the hell do I know. I'm simply a fan. Can I ask someone what the "smoking gun" is on Augeri lip syncing? For the record, I'm not here to defend Augeri (I'm a Perry fan, 100%). I'd just like to read more about the tapegate issue. I've been a member over at the other site for over 5 years, but that site doesn't really allow for any intelligent conversation, so I'm trying to get myself up to speed on the whole "tapegate" issue. Can someone point me to some evidence???

John from Boston

i'm one of the "over-the-hill chicks" (old that is) and I don't like SA. No one can sing SP songs except Steve Perry.
You have never seen SP lip sync and never will. I'm gald you asked that question about Tapegate- i would like to know also. Maybe Deano will tell us. I read over at the other site, but I don't post. All they do is whine about SA. I want to whine about SP It would be interesting to se JSS sing with Journey

[sindee67]

I have been a MelodicRock "fan" for several years. I have nothing but praise for Andrew and what he has done here. Thank you, sir. I have only come to the Message Board in the last several months. I do a lot of reading...but, not a lot of posting.

I am a Journey fan, obviously. First and formost, though, I am a MUSIC fan. I am not a "hardcore" Journey fan, like I consider most of you here to be. That is probably why I don't "jump in" more often. But trust me, I am a "hardcore" MUSIC fan. I DO like Journey, though. I was a fan of Journey before Perry, with Perry, and even after Perry. The only Journey I don't consider Journey is that whole Raised On Radio thing. WTF was that all about? I would have to say, though, without a doubt that my favorite line-up was with Perry and Rolie. I can't help but wonder what might have been if Rolie had stayed a little longer? Guess we'll never know. Anyway...

Just a few observations here:

-I find it disturbing that so many people have turned on Steve Augeri. The guy did an admirable job filling some shoes that were damn near impossible to fill. Whatever happened in the past few months...happened. Personally, I have no doubt that whatever DID happen is not just Augeri's fault. It had to be ALL of them in on it...which is disappointing. Whatever happened to a little honesty? We (people in general) are a forgiving kind...if given the chance. You know, I'd rather have someone look me in the eye and say "I made a mistake" or "Hey, this is what happened..." than to have someone look away and not say anything at all. At any rate, I think Augeri did an admirable job given the task at hand. He gave us some good music...and I thank him for that.

-JSS is kick ass. I've been a fan for some time....from Malmsteen to solo to Talismen. I was hoping for more with Soul Sirkus (just being honest), but World Play is very good....just falls short of excellent, imo. I wish only the best for Jeff, whatever it may be. I can't think of one "rocker" out there who deserves good things to come his way more. I am just hoping that if Journey is the future of JSS, it won't spell the end of everything else for him.

-Shame on you Journey for not "coming clean" with your fans. We are the ones who will buy your albums and come to your shows. I feel like I've been told "fuck you" by a band that I've supported for 30 years.

-Journey will never be a big as they once were. Even if the next album they put out is their best EVER. Even if Perry came back. It wouldn't matter. Their best days are gone. The music scene is much different these days. Period.


And one final thought. I have NEVER encountered a group of people that are more passionate about a particular band in all my years....even with all the bickering, name-calling, and disagreement. It gives me hope....and I thank you all.


That's just my thoughts on it, anyway.

Very well said!!!

[Liam]

Sindee...I REALLY hope your avatar means University of Tennessee and not the OTHER UT. Otherwise...you and I may have problems.

[Abitaman]

RD, if you were a bigger man than Augrei
1 you would let it go, it is the past, if it happened (tape gate) it is in the past, move on
2 I fyour a bigger man act like it, slandering people is NOT the way to prove it-ERIC

[Cantbleeveit]

'"That's like me going up on stage and playing a guitar to Neal's tape. Unacceptable."

It is not even close to the same thing. IF Augeri used tapes, they were of his OWN voice. IF it was done, it may have been done out of necessity, until they could figure out what to do next.

"He is looking right at Schon. Schon had no idea how much syncing was actually happening.[/quote]"

If this statement is true, that makes Neal a bigger dumb-ass twit than you are.

[Monker]

[quote="



-I find it disturbing that so many people have turned on Steve Augeri. The guy did an admirable job filling some shoes that were damn near impossible to fill. Whatever happened in the past few months...happened. Personally, I have no doubt that whatever DID happen is not just Augeri's fault. It had to be ALL of them in on it...which is

.

I totally agree..If you're going to assign blame, It has to be with everyone. Kind of like blaming the accounts for the mess while the CEO says, "I didn't know what was going on" Bullshit, you can't have it both ways.

i agree! plus... it's neal's band right? so...

just saying![/quote]

Just like everything else that is wrong with Journey, it has to be Steve Perry's fault.

[TRAGChick]

While I realize Journey will never again reach their peak in popularity, I'd still love for them to keep on going and recording albums.

I've noticed a recent resurgence in popularity when it comes to Journey in my age group (I'm a college freshman), and I'm pleased. Recently I burnt a friend mixes of pre-Perry and post-Perry Journey, and a mix of album cuts, to show him how much more incredible the band is beyond the hits.

I'm beginning to slowly help spread the gospel of Journey through my dorm hallway, and to anyone who walks by my open window! I'm always cranking out the Journey (and Van Halen, and Boston, and Tom Petty.... but mainly Journey!).

Amen, my brother / sister....

Coming from a point of view that's exactly 20 years OLDER than you are right now....

I can breathe easier now....