I don't buy the "big Journey comeback"

[fred_journeyman]

Then why didn't Soul Sirkus work???? Where were all the fans then? Neal was still Rockin and JSS was singing his heart out.

I was here...and had purchased tickets to very first concert. It was unfortunately cancelled due to Deen's illness.

Don't know why Soul Sirkus didn't work, but I would venture a guess--didn't have the name Journey !!!!!

No, I think it had everything to do with their false start and having to change drummers. They simply lost the momentum they started with and that's never good for any band.

One more note of wisdom--if Perry can't sing, he should write songs with Neal and Jon-what a team they were! incredible tunes. Maybe Neal should consult with him before doing the next album!!!!!!!

The only problem that I can see with that is when Perry writes or co-writes a tune, it's obviously done with HIS vocals, pitch, range and ability in mind. Writing for others would not be as easy and maybe not as productive.

[Carlitto H@kk]

One more note of wisdom--if Perry can't sing, he should write songs with Neal and Jon-what a team they were! incredible tunes. Maybe Neal should consult with him before doing the next album!!!!!!!

The last time they wrote material with Perry, we got served up TBF...

How could you possibly want more?

[Saint John]

wow is JSS 40 !!!! hmmmm guess he's got a few good years left.

Jeff will be 41 in November.
Those killer first to YingYang albums he sung on... he was 18 when he got that gig!

Another thing that Jeff will bring to the table for this band is RESPECT from more 'insiders'.
Most folks entrenched in the music biz know Neal and even Jon as legendary songwriters/musicians.
Augeri never had much cred in that circle.
Jeff has gained (and much deservedly so) a huge following and amount of respect in the biz because of his vast catalogue of quality work.
He brings "more Street Cred" to this band...
And like you, most folks don't realize just how old he is; he easily connects with the younger audience. That is another thing this band has not had in a long time - A frontman that connects equally with several different generations of fans.

There are so many positives right now that I'm going outa my mind wondering what could be in store for us

One of the best posts I've ever read. You're right on the money.

[NealIsGod]

One more note of wisdom--if Perry can't sing, he should write songs with Neal and Jon-what a team they were! incredible tunes. Maybe Neal should consult with him before doing the next album!!!!!!!

The last time they wrote material with Perry, we got served up TBF...

How could you possibly want more?

Completely agree.

[Granny]

One more note of wisdom--if Perry can't sing, he should write songs with Neal and Jon-what a team they were! incredible tunes. Maybe Neal should consult with him before doing the next album!!!!!!!

The last time they wrote material with Perry, we got served up TBF...

How could you possibly want more?

Completely agree.

I loved a lot of the songs TBF even if u didn't. I guess I just love SP voice Could listen to him all day! in fact I do. He is still an incredible song writer even if they are sappy sometimes. Have to be a women to appreciate them.

[MCC620]

Well someone said something about a duet...if it's a duet with JayZ or Fifty Cent then they have a shot at a big hit.........................

[Andrew]

The name and legacy of Journey is infinitely larger than any potential Soul SirkUS had - sad though that no one would give them a proper chance.

[Ms_M]

The name and legacy of Journey is infinitely larger than any potential Soul SirkUS had - sad though that no one would give them a proper chance.

I think that goes back to what has been said about the state of the music business today. If you aren't promoted "correctly", you practically can't have a hit record. I think a lot of good (even great) music is not heard by the general public because of promotion.

[A Fire Inside]

The last time they wrote material with Perry, we got served up TBF...

How could you possibly want more?

I used to think that way too, but now that they're on Perry replacement #2, I think they need to have him back for a last hurrah and then hang it up.

Remember we also got served up a Grammy nomination with TBF.

[Greg]

I think that the only way they could make a big comeback is by writing some NEW HIT records. JBJ is still "relevant" because they are writing songs that are getting played. As are Aerosmith.

Well, JBJ is getting played because they have sold out to the country market. If their stuff sounded like Slippery When Wet, nobody would've given them a second thought. Aerosmith, on the other hand, is just one of those bands that happen to have a sound that never seems to sound "dated."

[Greg]

But for the record, I like BJ's Slippery When Wet and New Jersey albums...(no to dump on Jovi.)

[Rockindeano]

Please shed some light, I must be missing something.

Hey Freak! U2, Billy Joel, Elton John

Yes.

, Clapton, Aerosmith

No way

Springsteen, Rolling Stones, Queen, Eagles,

They can fill entire cities.

Dylan

No way

, Ozzy,

Not by himself..He needs 15 metal bands with him to do it.

KISS - all can still fill stadiums.

Are you fucking drunk? KISS can't fill up a Pizza Hut parking lot.

[NealIsGod]

Remember we also got served up a Grammy nomination with TBF.

Big fucking deal. Grammys mean nothing to fans.

[Rockindeano]

Then why didn't Soul Sirkus work????

They weren't allowed to.

[FormerJrnyFan]

Are you fucking drunk? KISS can't fill up a Pizza Hut parking lot.

Nope - not drunk - yet!!

[Rockindeano]

Well someone said something about a duet...if it's a duet with JayZ or Fifty Cent then they have a shot at a big hit.........................

I can tell you for sure it's gonna be a female. It will be outstanding. Trust me on this. This is exactly who I would have picked.

[MindFreak]

Well someone said something about a duet...if it's a duet with JayZ or Fifty Cent then they have a shot at a big hit.........................

I can tell you for sure it's gonna be a female. It will be outstanding. Trust me on this. This is exactly who I would have picked.

So you believe that Journey will score a big hit single with some female singer and that will open the doors to a giant comeback?
I guess the "female singer" will have her management promote it then?

[Monker]

Yeah, we saw how much weight the name holds with Arrival. If Journey could potentially go somewhere with a new singer and the same name, they would have succeeded with Augeri.

EXACTLY...All of this "fan hype" is EXACTLY the same as we heard for Augeri when he first started. Talk is cheap...espeicaly from fans.

Yep. That's why I don't believe it unless it comes straight from their mouths in an interview.

Even then, I'm not going to believe it until it's heard on an album. How many times did JOURNEY say they were working on an album. Then we find Generations was sort of thrown together - because Augeri was making a solo album. Journey can say all they want that they are recording this and that and will release this and that...but, until they actualy DO IT, it means NOTHING.

[MindFreak]

Then why didn't Soul Sirkus work????

They weren't allowed to.

But why? Who controls that?

[MindFreak]

[quote="Monker]


Then we find Generations was sort of thrown together - because Augeri was making a solo album. Journey can say all they want that they are recording this and that and will release this and that...but, until they actualy DO IT, it means NOTHING.[/quote]


Augeri was making a solo album????? What happened to it????

[SteveForever]

Then why didn't Soul Sirkus work????

They weren't allowed to.

But why? Who controls that?

Dean does.

[Rockindeano]

Well someone said something about a duet...if it's a duet with JayZ or Fifty Cent then they have a shot at a big hit.........................

I can tell you for sure it's gonna be a female. It will be outstanding. Trust me on this. This is exactly who I would have picked.

So you believe that Journey will score a big hit single with some female singer and that will open the doors to a giant comeback?
I guess the "female singer" will have her management promote it then?

Journey Management can NOW manage. They really couldn't do squat the last 7 years with a singer who well, couldn't sing.

[Rockindeano]

EXACTLY...All of this "fan hype" is EXACTLY the same as we heard for Augeri when he first started. Talk is cheap...espeicaly from fans.

Yeah Monker, keep sticking your foot into your mouth. Look no further than me. You said I didn't know shit and couldn't affect change. Boy, that sure backfired on you didn't it?

Yep. That's why I don't believe it unless it comes straight from their mouths

Ok, keep waiting for anything official. You'll be waiting a long time. The Augeri episode will end within a month.

[Enigma869]

I will never believe Journey can re-capture what they were 25 years ago (and none of us can, either!). I hope I'm proven wrong on this point, but I just don't see Journey ever being accepted with anyone but Perry at the helm. For the record, I don't necessarily think Journey would become huge again if Perry were to re-join the band, either! That said, Journey does have a long and storied history with Perry, with an enormous amount of commercial success.

To take it one step further, Journey even has the rather odd history of completely disappearing from the music scene for almost 10 years and then re-appearing with a very successful commercial album in TBF. Whether you liked TBF or not, it met the standards of being commercially successful. "When You Love A Woman" remains the one and only song Journey has ever been nominated for a Grammy for! While that may not matter to many fans, it also shouldn't be overlooked, considering the many, enormously successful singles Journey churned out over the years! I don't think TBF would have seen the light of day, had Perry not been at the helm. I guess what I'm saying is that if Perry showed up on the scene tomorrow to record a cd with Journey (and again...Let me be very clear hear...I do NOT see that EVER happening!), I think Perry's reputation with Journey would instantly give whatever piece of work they recorded more interest than anything the name "Journey" has put out in 20 years! Just my opinion.

John from Boston

[MCC620]

I will never believe Journey can re-capture what they were 25 years ago (and none of us can, either!). I hope I'm proven wrong on this point, but I just don't see Journey ever being accepted with anyone but Perry at the helm. For the record, I don't necessarily think Journey would become huge again if Perry were to re-join the band, either! That said, Journey does have a long and storied history with Perry, with an enormous amount of commercial success.

To take it one step further, Journey even has the rather odd history of completely disappearing from the music scene for almost 10 years and then re-appearing with a very successful commercial album in TBF. Whether you liked TBF or not, it met the standards of being commercially successful. "When You Love A Woman" remains the one and only song Journey has ever been nominated for a Grammy for! While that may not matter to many fans, it also shouldn't be overlooked, considering the many, enormously successful singles Journey churned out over the years! I don't think TBF would have seen the light of day, had Perry not been at the helm. I guess what I'm saying is that if Perry showed up on the scene tomorrow to record a cd with Journey (and again...Let me be very clear hear...I do NOT see that EVER happening!), I think Perry's reputation with Journey would instantly give whatever piece of work they recorded more interest than anything the name "Journey" has put out in 20 years! Just my opinion.

John from Boston

Glad you mentioned the 10 year disappearing act. That is when they lost their momentum on the music scene. The other bands that were mentioned earlier all kept churning out the music and doing tours. Whether it was good music or not it was constant. A duet with a woman would definitely all be on the woman's management and then she will probably be the big draw. Not Journey.

[Monker]

[quote="Monker]


Then we find Generations was sort of thrown together - because Augeri was making a solo album. Journey can say all they want that they are recording this and that and will release this and that...but, until they actualy DO IT, it means NOTHING.

Augeri was making a solo album????? What happened to it????[/quote]

They took some of it and put on Generations. I suppose whatever other songs he had are still in his sock drawer.

[Rockindeano]

Glad you mentioned the 10 year disappearing act. That is when they lost their momentum on the music scene. The other bands that were mentioned earlier all kept churning out the music and doing tours. Whether it was good music or not it was constant. A duet with a woman would definitely all be on the woman's management and then she will probably be the big draw. Not Journey.

You're wrong. Jeff is a good looking guy. Well spoken and very smart.

Journey Mgt will be involved. A good duet song, moderate to rock with this person will be huge. The timing has to be right though. My guess is Journey will play the instruments. This will be fun to watch. This is my last tease.

[Rockindeano]

[quote="Monker]


Then we find Generations was sort of thrown together - because Augeri was making a solo album. Journey can say all they want that they are recording this and that and will release this and that...but, until they actualy DO IT, it means NOTHING.

Augeri was making a solo album????? What happened to it????

Hell, I have a better chance of getting "Cattle Call" on the charts than Augeri does doing any solo album.

[Monker]

[quote="Monker]


Then we find Generations was sort of thrown together - because Augeri was making a solo album. Journey can say all they want that they are recording this and that and will release this and that...but, until they actualy DO IT, it means NOTHING.

Augeri was making a solo album????? What happened to it????

Hell, I have a better chance of getting "Cattle Call" on the charts than Augeri does doing any solo album.

No you don't...

You are too afraid to post recordings to a discussion group....you must totaly PARANOID about releasing it to the world.

[Rockindeano]

Naw. Not at all. Just think though Monker, I have it and you don't. Hell, I have everything you want, and you cannot stand it.