Neal's Guitar Tone

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:29 am

I found it quite interesting to learn that Neal plays through so many different amps live...at the
same time! You have the Hiwatts sure, but you're also hearing the Diezel, Cyber Twin, GT6 etc....
He must be taking up like 6 or 8 channels on the mixer board!

At the end of the day, it's his hands that make the music tho. :wink:

by **maverick218** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:51 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Check out the Castles Burning forum at BT...

Some great knowledgable folks over there with alot of great
info; there are 2-3 threads there right now regarding Neal's tone.
Not to mention that Alan, owner of Banannas Music shop
and Neal's main gear supplier posts there and always has
some cool info to share...
For example, someone asked "what kind of Strats is
Neal using on this tour?"

Alan's reply:

"The current Strat's Neal is using are the Eric Johnson strats.
Custom made pickups for Fender.
Just a fun note: Neal went thru almost 13 different EJ strats to pick his 4 fav.
One white, one red, two black, two Sunburst
and yes it is ALWAYS fun to have Neal here trying out gear."

Ironic that you would quote that response from Alan because he was responding to my question that I had about that (I use a different "handle" over there.) Castles Burning is the only forum that I post on
"over there"anymore.

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:54 am

I thought it sounded like NS used some pedal steel during the studio version of Believe...

by **maverick218** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:55 am

I've noticed a difference in his tone as the years have gone by, but believe that it's largely due to using different amp/guitar combinations. I really prefer his tone from the pre SP era through Departure.
They obviously use a track for the opening to Higher Place, but he doesn't need any more help than that.

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:45 am

maverick218 wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:Check out the Castles Burning forum at BT...

Some great knowledgable folks over there with alot of great
info; there are 2-3 threads there right now regarding Neal's tone.
Not to mention that Alan, owner of Banannas Music shop
and Neal's main gear supplier posts there and always has
some cool info to share...
For example, someone asked "what kind of Strats is
Neal using on this tour?"

Alan's reply:

"The current Strat's Neal is using are the Eric Johnson strats.
Custom made pickups for Fender.
Just a fun note: Neal went thru almost 13 different EJ strats to pick his 4 fav.
One white, one red, two black, two Sunburst
and yes it is ALWAYS fun to have Neal here trying out gear."

Ironic that you would quote that response from Alan because he was responding to my question that I had about that (I use a different "handle" over there.) Castles Burning is the only forum that I post on
"over there"anymore.

ALOT of knowledge to be shared there, that's for sure

Could you imagine being someone like Neal where you can just
go in, jam away on 13-14 guitars priced at 4-5k apiece and then
choose your 4-5 faves...
Lucky fucker

by **Gibby** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:01 am

Jeremy,

Ever tried to find a 'Nealish' tone on your XTLive?

by **JeremyP** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:31 am

Gibby wrote:Jeremy,

Ever tried to find a 'Nealish' tone on your XTLive?

Well, not really. Lately, I've been mostly trying to find a Brian May-ish tone to be honest.

I did a solo for one of my old band's songs that reminded me of Neal though.

I thought it sounded like something he might play. Here it is if you wanna give it a listen.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJXXEM8R

My XT (bean) was new then and I wasn't nearly as experienced with it then as I am now, so it does sound kinda digital and fake. Is sounding much better now that I've had some time to tweak it and play around with it.

by *Laura » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:05 am

I really enjoyed reading this thread,I love tech talk.

Sometime ago,I posted this link,maybe some of you would like to watch it.(or see it again)

http://www.schonmusic.com/multimedialist-frame.asp/type_9#

Neal should upload the next parts,or film them,now that he stoped touring.
I remember he said something about making this a series thing,which would be great for all the guitar savvys out there.

by **Jeremey** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:06 am

I'm not a guitar guy, but I believe Neal uses the Boss GT-6 onstage quite a bit.

by **JeremyP** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:14 am

Shania wrote:I really enjoyed reading this thread,I love tech talk.

Sometime ago,I posted this link,maybe some of you would like to watch it.(or see it again)

http://www.schonmusic.com/multimedialist-frame.asp/type_9#

Neal should upload the next parts,or film them,now that he stoped touring.
I remember he said something about making this a series thing,which would be great for all the guitar savvys out there.

That would be great if he'd make it a series. I'd love to see him go through his solos and teach everybody how to play them. A Neal Schon instructional dvd is long overdue I might add.

by **Blueskies** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:11 am

JeremyP wrote:
Gibby wrote:Jeremy,

Ever tried to find a 'Nealish' tone on your XTLive?

Well, not really. Lately, I've been mostly trying to find a Brian May-ish tone to be honest.

I did a solo for one of my old band's songs that reminded me of Neal though.

I thought it sounded like something he might play. Here it is if you wanna give it a listen.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJXXEM8R

My XT (bean) was new then and I wasn't nearly as experienced with it then as I am now, so it does sound kinda digital and fake. Is sounding much better now that I've had some time to tweak it and play around with it.

Great playing Jeremy!

by **JeremyP** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:23 am

TVL wrote:Great playing Jeremy!

Thanks!

by **Wheels Of Fyre** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:41 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:However, I am not letting you off the hook for saying you couldn't differentiate the talent between classic Journey with Espee, and Lip era with Augeri. Come correct, and we can be buddies.

Again with the "lip" remarks. You've said EMPHATICALLY that you've "moved on" regarding this issue and that so should everyone else but then you turn around and take shots like this and contradict yourself - over and over and over again.

What's with this "come correct" stuff. So in order for you to be friends with someone they must first meet some imposed conditions? Weren't you just recently crying about BT placing conditions on that so-called heart-felt apology you posted?

These constant contradictions are truly amazing.

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:58 pm

Wyngz, I just don't get you, man.

You don't post much anymore and, when you do, its only to whine
and try to monitor and patrol every little
word Dean says.
I'm not defending Dean, he can that himself.
I'm just tellin' ya that the pathetic routine and
your crusade (whatever it really is)
is getting stale...

Even Moose and McNeil have moved on...
Hurry up, train's pullin' out of the staion and you can
still make it...

by **fredinator** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:12 pm

I like to shop Ebay so just goofing around and looked up Neal Schon guitar and one came up with a starting price of $19,000.00, Buy It Now $35,000.00... It says, "buy a piece of rock history." Holy smokes!! Is that normally what a guitar sells for?

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:55 pm

fredinator wrote:I like to shop Ebay so just goofing around and looked up Neal Schon guitar and one came up with a starting price of $19,000.00, Buy It Now $35,000.00... It says, "buy a piece of rock history." Holy smokes!! Is that normally what a guitar sells for?

You must be at Bananna's looking at Neal's Private Stock.
Those are all one-of-a-kind pieces that were owned and played by
the Master himself.
There's no price listed but the Strat used to record Lights
is there too...
THAT would be a grand item to add to a collection

by **JeremyP** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:52 am

Man, I'd love to have an original Jackson Schon guitar. Maybe someday....

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:57 am

JeremyP wrote:Man, I'd love to have an original Jackson Schon guitar. Maybe someday....

Get in line behind me, bee-yotch! :lol:

by **Liam** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:00 am

JeremyP wrote:Man, I'd love to have an original Jackson Schon guitar. Maybe someday....

Same here, dude. Take a Number. :lol:

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:07 am

JeremyP wrote:Man, I'd love to have an original Jackson Schon guitar. Maybe someday....

I posted a thread on this topic at the Castles Burning a few months back...
http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000024.html

If you're serious, read thru it...
There are a few folks, specifically NSBlues, that have Schon guitars
that they would be willing to sale. Some of the prices I got sent to me
ranged anywhere from 2-4k...
I just don't hav ethat kind of cash to blow on another guitar

by **JeremyP** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:11 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:I just don't have that kind of cash to blow on another guitar

Same here.

by **SF-Dano** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:21 am

Neal used this guitar alot around the HSAS days. What is the make and model? Anyone . ... Anyone .....?[/img]

by **Gibby** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:22 am

Was that a Roland??

Anybody know why Neal doesn't even play the Schon guitar anymore? He must have a few left.

by **Wheels Of Fyre** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:26 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Wyngz, I just don't get you, man.

You don't post much anymore and, when you do, its only to whine
and try to monitor and patrol every little
word Dean says.
I'm not defending Dean, he can that himself.
I'm just tellin' ya that the pathetic routine and
your crusade (whatever it really is)
is getting stale...

Even Moose and McNeil have moved on...
Hurry up, train's pullin' out of the staion and you can
still make it...

LOL! It was funny because I was going to comment about how you'd be the first to respond to this as you're Deano's personal hit man!

I crack myself up!

Absolutely NOTHING you said has any credibility or relevance to my post. The constant talk about moving on...what the HELL are you babbling about? Honestly? It's the same old canned response...blah, blah, blah...

You obviously did NOT understand my post.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:41 am

Schon Guitars at Ed Romans site.. he sells body blanks ect... this is a cool site , ed is a bit of a yankee.. but so are some of "ya'll"..

.. check out the pic of an EX -girlfriend of mine with the gold plated version.. i just couldnt keep this girl in proper attire..

http://www.edromanguitars.com/guitar/home_sch.htm

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:48 am

JeremyP wrote:
Gibby wrote:Jeremy,

Ever tried to find a 'Nealish' tone on your XTLive?

Well, not really. Lately, I've been mostly trying to find a Brian May-ish tone to be honest.

I did a solo for one of my old band's songs that reminded me of Neal though.

I thought it sounded like something he might play. Here it is if you wanna give it a listen.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJXXEM8R

My XT (bean) was new then and I wasn't nearly as experienced with it then as I am now, so it does sound kinda digital and fake. Is sounding much better now that I've had some time to tweak it and play around with it.

great playin J.P. !! sounded real cool................
"eugene!! where'd
you learn them "wimpy" chords?" ..... "cant talk little man, bet cant
play none neither",, "if you kept your hands on that guitar as
much as you keep'em on that girls "butt" then maybe you could
play some blues"...........ahhhhhhhhhhhhh wonderful movie...............

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:53 am

SF-DANO wrote:

Neal used this guitar alot around the HSAS days. What is the make and model? Anyone . ... Anyone .....?[/img]

dano,, a while back styxcollector gave me this info.. the ebay is gone and some of the links , but you can still get the overall.....
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... nd#3720125

by **JeremyP** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:57 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:great playin J.P. !! sounded real cool................
"eugene!! where'd
you learn them "wimpy" chords?" ..... "cant talk little man, bet cant
play none neither",, "if you kept your hands on that guitar as
much as you keep'em on that girls "butt" then maybe you could
play some blues"...........ahhhhhhhhhhhhh wonderful movie...............

Thanks!

I LOVE that movie, my old band's drummer let me borrow it around three years ago and I still haven't returned it!

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:19 pm

I got a question on Neal and his guitars...

I didn't pay attention much on this tour but did anyone
notice if Neal was swapping out guitars alot during their sets?
I know he swaps between the LPs and Stats for specific tunes but I'm more
curious about swapping the LPs out alot.

Does he use any alternate tunings?

Nowadays most guitarist are using a bunch of crazy tunings
to simplify things or come up with crazy progressions...
Hell, watch the Goo Goo Dolls Live; that fucker
Reznick swaps his guitar out for every song.
i hate trying to learn his shit because 90% of Goo tunes
has its own specific tuning.
The way they are tuned, you could pretty much play them with 2 fingers.

It just says so much about Neal's playing if he sticks with standard all the time.
Not only is he always coming up with incredible riffs, runs and progressions
but he makes it look so damn easy :lol:

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:03 pm

Carlitto H@kk wrote:I got a question on Neal and his guitars...

I didn't pay attention much on this tour but did anyone
notice if Neal was swapping out guitars alot during their sets?
I know he swaps between the LPs and Stats for specific tunes but I'm more
curious about swapping the LPs out alot.

Does he use any alternate tunings?

Nowadays most guitarist are using a bunch of crazy tunings
to simplify things or come up with crazy progressions...
Hell, watch the Goo Goo Dolls Live; that fucker
Reznick swaps his guitar out for every song.
i hate trying to learn his shit because 90% of Goo tunes
has its own specific tuning.
The way they are tuned, you could pretty much play them with 2 fingers.

It just says so much about Neal's playing if he sticks with standard all the time.
Not only is he always coming up with incredible riffs, runs and progressions
but he makes it look so damn easy

yea bud,, i think neal is in standard 440 all the time.. some of bad english was tuned to Eb... it makes me wonder is some of soul sirkus might be drop D , ive never sit down and learned those songs,, but they have a hard edge,, i bet he messed with the drop D some..i bet jeremeys guitar player has all those ansewers.. that dude had to learn a huge cataloge!!! ... as far as neal swaping out guitars.. he always seems to have the black beauty with the notch worn out where his pinky hangs!! :lol:

MR

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