I have stepped into the fray...

[Monker]

BTW, I hate this topic header:

I have stepped into the fray...

My screwed up eyes keep reading it as if RV stepped on Froy, or something.

[ArnelRox]

...The way this has been presented it SEEMS like Augeri got sick, JSS stepped in for the tour. They like JSS better so they told Augeri to take a hike. That's the way this has been presented.

This is EXACTLY what's pissed me off. I can't speak for anyone else but it appears to me that many feel the same.

You're right. JOURNEY's got no one to blame for the reactions except themselves. You just can't blame people for their reactions to the whole "BUH-bye!" attitude seemingly expressed towards SA.

Why don't u guys go ask Augeri what really happened? Or his lawyer who obviously had a HUGE hand in the statement made. Why do u blame Neal, Jon, Ross & Deen, but never put any blame on Saint Wiggler? Why do u not realize maybe this is the way Augeri wanted it presented. He didn't just get sick. He hasn't been able to sing for over a year, & his voice has been fucked up for at least 2 yrs. What is wrong w/u people?

[Monker]

Why don't u guys go ask Augeri what really happened? Or his lawyer who obviously had a HUGE hand in the statement made. Why do u blame Neal, Jon, Ross & Deen, but never put any blame on Saint Wiggler? Why do u not realize maybe this is the way Augeri wanted it presented. He didn't just get sick. He hasn't been able to sing for over a year, & his voice has been fucked up for at least 2 yrs. What is wrong w/u people?

Why do you have faith in a band who has a COMPLETE inability to stand up and say what YOU believe really happened? BOTH this release AND Andrew's "interview" present the exact same "we like JSS better so he's in the band now" attitude. Journey would have been better off not saying ANYTHING at all then doing what they did.

I would have looked forward to seeing Journey at a fair or something where tickets were cheap. But, IMO, I doubt they will even make it that far now.

[ArnelRox]

Why do you have faith in a band who has a COMPLETE inability to stand up and say what YOU believe really happened? BOTH this release AND Andrew's "interview" present the exact same "we like JSS better so he's in the band now" attitude. Journey would have been better off not saying ANYTHING at all then doing what they did.

I would have looked forward to seeing Journey at a fair or something where tickets were cheap. But, IMO, I doubt they will even make it that far now.

Do I really need to spell this out for u? Are u REALLY this stupid? They weren't able to tell the truth about the situation b/c Augeri's lawyer & Augeri didn't want it out there & threatened all sorts of litigation if they did. God it is so obvious. That's why he added the BS about his solo album in there. & that's also why the interviews were laden w/hints & innuendos w/out anyone coming out & saying it.

[Monker]

Why do you have faith in a band who has a COMPLETE inability to stand up and say what YOU believe really happened? BOTH this release AND Andrew's "interview" present the exact same "we like JSS better so he's in the band now" attitude. Journey would have been better off not saying ANYTHING at all then doing what they did.

I would have looked forward to seeing Journey at a fair or something where tickets were cheap. But, IMO, I doubt they will even make it that far now.

Do I really need to spell this out for u? Are u REALLY this stupid? They weren't able to tell the truth about the situation b/c Augeri's lawyer & Augeri didn't want it out there & threatened all sorts of litigation if they did. God it is so obvious. That's why he added the BS about his solo album in there. & that's also why the interviews were laden w/hints & innuendos w/out anyone coming out & saying it.

It's ALWAYS somebody elses fault. I think that's BULLSHIT. Journey is responsible for their own actions, not Steve Perry...and certainly not Steve Augeri. They have done this to themselves, nobody can be a scapegoat for JOURNEY's OWN STATEMENTS.

[ArnelRox]

Why do you have faith in a band who has a COMPLETE inability to stand up and say what YOU believe really happened? BOTH this release AND Andrew's "interview" present the exact same "we like JSS better so he's in the band now" attitude. Journey would have been better off not saying ANYTHING at all then doing what they did.

I would have looked forward to seeing Journey at a fair or something where tickets were cheap. But, IMO, I doubt they will even make it that far now.

Do I really need to spell this out for u? Are u REALLY this stupid? They weren't able to tell the truth about the situation b/c Augeri's lawyer & Augeri didn't want it out there & threatened all sorts of litigation if they did. God it is so obvious. That's why he added the BS about his solo album in there. & that's also why the interviews were laden w/hints & innuendos w/out anyone coming out & saying it.

It's ALWAYS somebody elses fault. I think that's BULLSHIT. Journey is responsible for their own actions, not Steve Perry...and certainly not Steve Augeri. They have done this to themselves, nobody can be a scapegoat for JOURNEY's OWN STATEMENTS.

U are a complete fool. Augeri wanted this presented a certain way to attempt to redeem his reputation w/his fans. I only had to read it once to see that. U obviously have NO understanding of business & legal matters. Oh well. Not Journey's fault ur a moron.

[Monker]

U are a complete fool. Augeri wanted this presented a certain way to attempt to redeem his reputation w/his fans. I only had to read it once to see that. U obviously have NO understanding of business & legal matters. Oh well. Not Journey's fault ur a moron.

LOL.

I think YOU are the fool for taking YOUR opinion and letting it create facts that are not there.

The bottom line, JOURNEY is responsible for what comes out of their mouths and statements...not Steve Augeri. Just like I am not responsible for what comes out of your typing fingers. Get over it...Journey creates their own problems, especialy this one.

[Ms_M]

Excellent posts Stuart! You asked the one question no one wants to answer - if you don't like them anymore - WHY ARE YOU HERE? I think that could be said on any message board.

What kinda moron would even ask that question within a week of this announcement?

They are there because they are fans of the Augeri led Journey and are pissed off at how the band handled this situation, and the interviews that Andrew has on this site.

So, give it more then just a few days. This time next year may be at least a LITTLE different.

I wasn't even trying to step in the fray - just supporting some good comments. Thanks for calling me a moron - Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[ArnelRox]

U are a complete fool. Augeri wanted this presented a certain way to attempt to redeem his reputation w/his fans. I only had to read it once to see that. U obviously have NO understanding of business & legal matters. Oh well. Not Journey's fault ur a moron.

I think YOU are the fool for taking YOUR opinion and letting it create facts that are not there.

That makes u one too since u did the same thing! At least I managed to read between the lines.

[jrnysc]

U are a complete fool. Augeri wanted this presented a certain way to attempt to redeem his reputation w/his fans. I only had to read it once to see that. U obviously have NO understanding of business & legal matters. Oh well. Not Journey's fault ur a moron.

LOL.

I think YOU are the fool for taking YOUR opinion and letting it create facts that are not there.

The bottom line, JOURNEY is responsible for what comes out of their mouths and statements...not Steve Augeri. Just like I am not responsible for what comes out of your typing fingers. Get over it...Journey creates their own problems, especialy this one.

JourneyRox is correct. I have insight into these type legal situations as well. If the 'truth' had been told, Augeri would never be able to show his face again. This was OBVIOUSLY a joint statement, and it's also obvious Augeri and HIS attorneys wrote the majority of it. Or at the least, had to approve every single word of it.

[Rockindeano]

U are a complete fool. Augeri wanted this presented a certain way to attempt to redeem his reputation w/his fans. I only had to read it once to see that. U obviously have NO understanding of business & legal matters. Oh well. Not Journey's fault ur a moron.

LOL.

I think YOU are the fool for taking YOUR opinion and letting it create facts that are not there.

The bottom line, JOURNEY is responsible for what comes out of their mouths and statements...not Steve Augeri. Just like I am not responsible for what comes out of your typing fingers. Get over it...Journey creates their own problems, especialy this one.

JourneyRox is correct. I have insight into these type legal situations as well. If the 'truth' had been told, Augeri would never be able to show his face again. This was OBVIOUSLY a joint statement, and it's also obvious Augeri and HIS attorneys wrote the majority of it. Or at the least, had to approve every single word of it.

You think? Hell, Stevie Wonder could read this Bullshit a mile away.

Augeri is an embarrassment. He will never sing again.

The only thing Friga and Neal fucked up were hiring this no talent ass clown. red leather pants? I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

[ArnelRox]

I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

Please take a pic of that. I would love to see it

Love ya Dean & Lula. Merry Christmas. U been a good boy. Santa will bring u some killer shit.

[Rockindeano]

I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

Please take a pic of that. I would love to see it

Love ya Dean & Lula. Merry Christmas. U been a good boy. Santa will bring u some killer shit.

A joke, Susie.

I love Schonny. You KNOW that.

[ArnelRox]

I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

Please take a pic of that. I would love to see it

Love ya Dean & Lula. Merry Christmas. U been a good boy. Santa will bring u some killer shit.

A joke, Susie.

I love Schonny. You KNOW that.

It doesn't prevent me asking for a pic, does it? Man u about to punch Schon would be hysterical. They'd love that on BT. Ha ha ha.

[Rockindeano]

I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

Please take a pic of that. I would love to see it

Love ya Dean & Lula. Merry Christmas. U been a good boy. Santa will bring u some killer shit.

A joke, Susie.

I love Schonny. You KNOW that.

It doesn't prevent me asking for a pic, does it? Man u about to punch Schon would be hysterical. They'd love that on BT. Ha ha ha.

Schonny is a tough little fucker. I could take him, but it would not be easy. The only way I take down Schonny is drinking. He knows I love him.

[ArnelRox]

I am going to punch Neal in the balls for this shit when I see him next

Please take a pic of that. I would love to see it

Love ya Dean & Lula. Merry Christmas. U been a good boy. Santa will bring u some killer shit.

A joke, Susie.

I love Schonny. You KNOW that.

It doesn't prevent me asking for a pic, does it? Man u about to punch Schon would be hysterical. They'd love that on BT. Ha ha ha.

Schonny is a tough little fucker. I could take him, but it would not be easy. The only way I take down Schonny is drinking. He knows I love him.

How about a pic of him about to punch u in the balls then? That would also be funny!

[roknroseville]

Hey Mr journeyrox,
Dude chill out! No reason to get rude here....
Funny how you know what's really going on behind the scenes....
Journey is Journey... There 's evil & there's good....
As if augeri or his lawyers would have that much power.....
Dude it's only a band...... Not war......
Somebodys got too much time on his hands......

[ArnelRox]

Hey Mr journeyrox,
Dude chill out! No reason to get rude here....
Funny how you know what's really going on behind the scenes....
Journey is Journey... There 's evil & there's good....
As if augeri or his lawyers would have that much power.....
Dude it's only a band...... Not war......
Somebodys got too much time on his hands......

1st of all, I'm a "she". Yes, I have way too much time on my hands right now. I'm recovering from surgery & off work & unable to do much else. That is correct. I will give u that much.

Do I think Augeri's lawyers would have that much power? Yes, I do. Augeri wanted to save face. Can u honestly tell me u think a record label would release & promote an album by Mr. Augeri? Hell, Journey can't get a record label of late. Who has heard of Augeri? Think about it. It makes no sense. It was obviously a stunt by Augeri to save face. Journey went along w/it to get it settled. In a month, it will be off their site & onto bigger & better news. They could take the hit for a month. This is so obvious. I can't believe anyone can't see it.

[Rockindeano]

Hey Mr journeyrox,
Dude chill out! No reason to get rude here....
Funny how you know what's really going on behind the scenes....
Journey is Journey... There 's evil & there's good....
As if augeri or his lawyers would have that much power.....
Dude it's only a band...... Not war......
Somebodys got too much time on his hands......

1st of all, I'm a "she". Yes, I have way too much time on my hands right now. I'm recovering from surgery & off work & unable to do much else. That is correct. I will give u that much.

Do I think Augeri's lawyers would have that much power? Yes, I do. Augeri wanted to save face. Can u honestly tell me u think a record label would release & promote an album by Mr. Augeri? Hell, Journey can't get a record label of late. Who has heard of Augeri? Think about it. It makes no sense. It was obviously a stunt by Augeri to save face. Journey went along w/it to get it settled. In a month, it will be off their site & onto bigger & better news. They could take the hit for a month. This is so obvious. I can't believe anyone can't see it.

Oh there is NO CD coming. That is a smokescreen to get the Hogs off and stamped into Fraudgeriville. He can't sing as good as Ross.