Remastering the Journey Greatest Hits..

by **Saint John** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:34 am

Rerecording the GH package with Jeff will never happen. It's just too stupid of an idea.

by **Granny** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:38 am

saint John wrote:Rerecording the GH package with Jeff will never happen. It's just too stupid of an idea.

No, very, very, very stupid idea....Jeff is too smart to do that!!!!

by **Saint John** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:13 am

Those songs have stood the test of time on their own. The fact that GH has sold 5 million copies in the past decade, and 14 million overall, tells me the music is just the way people wanted it. It doesn't need to be rerecorded. They're songs that remind many of us of our youth; namely people, places and events. They have a SPECIFIC place in time, and that time is the 80's. As I said, I'm not worried. This idea is just too dumb to ever see the light of day. Not to mention that for once I would be rooting for Perry and his lawyers.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:06 pm

have to hand it to Youngjrnyfan.. i would have never ever guessed it would even be a consideration.. he starts a thread about it,,

by **SteveForever** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:11 pm

Don't mean to come across rude, but if they choose this road count me out.

by **Saint John** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:13 pm

steveforever wrote:Don't mean to come across rude, but if they choose this road count me out.

While I wouldn't be "out" I'd be very, very disappointed. It would be a huge step back rather than forward.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:17 am

I think as a 1-off limited release, say maybe through their official site only, with minimum $risk involved for the band, the more I think about this concept the more I want this album.
Give JDouble the 10 he's most comfortable with or most challenged by, go in the studio w/ Elson and record it, press 50,000 of them to start with and that's that.
Shit, it doesn't even have to be limited to Perry material. Jeff's getting real good reviews for the FITH rendition and I'd love to hear him tackle The Time, which is from a record Neal said he wasn't really satisfied with the recording of anyway.

by **somethingtohide** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:38 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I think as a 1-off limited release, say maybe through their official site only, with minimum $risk involved for the band, the more I think about this concept the more I want this album.
Give JDouble the 10 he's most comfortable with or most challenged by, go in the studio w/ Elson and record it, press 50,000 of them to start with and that's that.
Shit, it doesn't even have to be limited to Perry material. Jeff's getting real good reviews for the FITH rendition and I'd love to hear him tackle The Time, which is from a record Neal said he wasn't really satisfied with the recording of anyway.

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Perry's versions of the classics will always be locked in my heart and memory no matter who re-releases them. So I'm not worried about Jeff's versions supplanting or diminishing my love for Perry's.

I do want Journey's main focus to be on new stuff.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:58 am

somethingtohide wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Exactly why I say limited, maybe internet site only release.
Those like me who want it will find it there and pay for it.

by **Matthew** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Exactly why I say limited, maybe internet site only release.
Those like me who want it will find it there and pay for it.

Except...won't this pretty much be the case for the album of new material too? Let's not forget that Journey do not currently have a record deal.

by **somethingtohide** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:50 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Exactly why I say limited, maybe internet site only release.
Those like me who want it will find it there and pay for it.

I think that would work. I'd listen and probably buy.

by **Matthew** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:54 am

Honestly...if they do this album...that's it. I'm going to throw a big sulk and burn my concert tickets.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:04 am

Matthew wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Exactly why I say limited, maybe internet site only release.
Those like me who want it will find it there and pay for it.

Except...won't this pretty much be the case for the album of new material too? Let's not forget that Journey do not currently have a record deal.

I think they'll get a label for the new original album (and the proposed Journey covers record if they WANT. I just think they'd clear more [or lose less? :shock:

] if they pulled a Red13 and put it out themselves). If not Sanctuary, then a label like Sanctuary will pick it up.
But in answer of one of the questions yes I think they're without a contract right now.

by **Matthew** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:12 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I

A limited release to the hardcore fans might be okay...it would be novel anyway to hear Jeff sing the classics...I'm sure he'd do a great job...I just wouldn't want to give anymore ammunition to those that think of Journey as a "nostalgia act".

Exactly why I say limited, maybe internet site only release.
Those like me who want it will find it there and pay for it.

Except...won't this pretty much be the case for the album of new material too? Let's not forget that Journey do not currently have a record deal.

I think they'll get a label for the new original album (and the proposed Journey covers record if they WANT. I just think they'd clear more [or lose less? ] if they pulled a Red13 and put it out themselves). If not Sanctuary, then a label like Sanctuary will pick it up.

Yes - I hope so, Red. I know it shouldn't matter but it hurts my soul to see Journey playing in the little leagues.

by **treetopovskaya** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:14 am

it would be cool if they re-recorded ONE classic journey song. maybe let the fans vote on which song to re-record? a whole album though... oh hellz no. }:C) if journey wants to be taken seriously & move forward they need to put out brand new music. re-recording the greatest hits is just wasting jeff's time & talent.

by **YoungJRNYfan** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:25 am

I like your idea PA. I think an internet release only would do great measures. Maybe have something like limited time or something putting it up for sale for only a couple months or so. I know all of you would buy too, it would be too interesting not to get. I can understand a lot of the Journey faithful being upset about this, because like some of you mentioned, the timeless era and it should be locked down for good because of the special time it was, and the "letting go" phase. Regardless of letting go, Journey NEEDS these classics to get by today. It's what they are. It's what they are now known for from people all around. I know people like us say it because we are the diehards, but you got to think of the lesser fans out there that would they, "Hey, look, Journey got a new lead singer? lets check him out" You don't even got to name it Journeys Greatest hits, maybe something like Journey's road to stardom or something and having songs flipped having JSS picking about 5 classics, and still having Steve Perry in the breakup. Even have the Augeri era with Higher Place and Faith in the Heartland. This CD would KICK major ass leading up to the new album. Just gives that extra stretch that Journey is still alive and kickin.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:38 am

Yea but you know what, Matthew?
When you look who's playing in the so-called "big-leagues" aside from The Police, Genesis, The Springsteens,The Stones,VH and at most times Aerosmith and Bon Jovi then who gives a shit to be at that status?
Right now, as fouled up up as the industry is, the suits are picking fake cookie-cutter manufactured bands with ZERO shot at staying power to be in the big leagues. These psuedo bands will be in and out of the bigs once big music brother decides. And he has A.D.D. so that's usually in short order.
I had this talk with Dean just the other day and we were debating the laughability of having a 30-year-old rock band who's not able to book stadiums anymore or arenas by themselves as our band of choice. Our stance is that those who laugh at the journeys or journey fans, what the hell's in THEIR cd collection? The new shit that gets played on the air NOW? If that's the case then the last laugh is ours, because even though that junk is popular right now (by force, more than talent or listenability of the music) most of them are gonna be gone so fast their heads will spin. I LIKE our music way better than this thrown together talentless shit that's on top for the most part now.
And to paraphrase one of AR's finest hours I'm GLAD we have the bands that Andrew reports on here touring and recording. When the flash in the pans have had their 15 minutes up in the rareified Stones air mentioned above then flamed out, the Journeys, Foreigners, Styxs, Survivors, Bostons, REOs a LOT of the bands supported here will continue to be able to make millions doing the right sized tours and playing it smart with their unsupported album releases.
What a windy post outa me. :oops:

by **ohsherrie** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:46 am

Red13JoePa wrote:What a windy post outa me.

True Dat!

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:01 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What a windy post outa me.

True Dat!

Ya.
Glad my sincerity,and the heart of my post really RESONATED within you.

They're right about us. This is not the Harvard of Journey boards. :mrgreen:

by **Matthew** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:07 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Yea but you know what, Matthew?
When you look who's playing in the so-called "big-leagues" aside from The Police, Genesis, The Springsteens,The Stones,VH and at most times Aerosmith and Bon Jovi then who gives a shit to be at that status?
Right now, as fouled up up as the industry is, the suits are picking fake cookie-cutter manufactured bands with ZERO shot at staying power to be in the big leagues. These psuedo bands will be in and out of the bigs once big music brother decides. And he has A.D.D. so that's usually in short order.
I had this talk with Dean just the other day and we were debating the laughability of having a 30-year-old rock band who's not able to book stadiums anymore or arenas by themselves as our band of choice. My stance is that those who laugh at the journeys or journey fans, what the hell's in THEIR cd collection? The new shit that gets played on the air NOW? If that's the case then the last laugh is ours, because even though that junk is popular right now (by force, more than talent or listenability of the music) most of them are gonna be gone so fast their heads will spin. I LIKE our music way better than this thrown together talentless shit that's on top for the most part now.
And to paraphrase one of AR's finest hours I'm GLAD we have the bands that Andrew reports on here touring and recording. When the flash in the pans have had their 15 minutes up in the rareified Stones air mentioned above then flamed out, the Journeys, Foreigners, Styxs, Survivors, Bostons, REOs a LOT of the bands supported here will continue to be able to make millions doing the right sized tours and playing it smart with their unsupported album releases.
What a windy post outa me.

Red - I'm pretty much with you all the way on this - but I guess I see Journey as being in the same league as VH - or rather they ought to be - and they sure used to be.

VH have had their fair share of dodgy line-up changes and mediocre albums and lay-offs too - but somehow they've retained their status and pulling power in a way that Journey have not. But maybe they were always cooler...even back in the day?

Anyway...this status thing would bother me less if I actually liked the recent new music from Journey. If they record a killer album with JSS then I'm sure I'll mind a lot less that Journey have slipped down the rankings so dramatically.

by **ohsherrie** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:40 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What a windy post outa me.

True Dat!

Ya.
Glad my sincerity,and the heart of my post really RESONATED within you.

They're right about us. This is not the Harvard of Journey boards.

Aw gee, I'm so sorry Joe13, it resonated enough, I just didn't really agree with it.

You don't really want me to write a dissertation on my reasons do you? :twisted:

by **JohnH** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:57 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Well, it's already been remastered.

If you mean reRECORD, then....uh... no. Why on earth would they do that?
You can't fuck with with what WAS. Those songs are part of Journey's history. Leave them that way.

To rerecord them with JSS would just send a message saying "Hey, we can't do anything else, so we're just going to cling to Open Arms and Lights for the rest of our careers." And that isn't true.

We know Jeff can sing those songs, but it's time to see what he can do in his own spotlight, not Perry's. They're two very different singers and what Perry did with Journey stands as it is. What Jeff will do will stand as JEFF'S.

Jeff, if you are reading this, I love your singing and you are the greatest. Please do not rerecord those old Journey songs. Please Journey, do not do this.........WHY??????????????????????? I just read that in Andrew's 2006 year end review and 2007 predictions. The spark that Neil and JSS have should be enough, along with the songwriting capabilities of Jon and Dean to come up with a killer album. There would be no point at all to rerecord old classics. I was really annoyed when I read that. PLEASE GUYS, DON'T TOUCH THEM.

JH

by **L~L~L** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:04 pm

Very bad idea.

by **Jenna** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:21 pm

Re Mastered---would then be--re -re mastered?

by **Saint John** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:25 pm

Jenna wrote:Re Mastered---would then be--re -re mastered?

Correct. And this whole idea is re-diculous.

by **Jenna** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:02 am

The word Absurd---comes to mind-------------

by **Deb** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:03 am

Agreed, Bon Jovi tried re-recording some of their catalogue a little differently (This Left Feels Right) and this was with the original singer yet. It bombed big time, JBJ has even admitted it was a big mistake, they got tons of feedback from fans saying 'don't mess with our songs.' Jeff does great on the catalogue and I say bring on some NEW material! Journey, with a JSS flair.

by **perryfaithful** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:56 pm

Jeremey wrote:Re-recording the classic Journey songs in a studio would go against all the great vibes I got from last year's Journey show. I could understand a live CD or DVD, but I can't think of any good reason to try to reshape those classic songs with any thought of introducing Jeff with Journey.

EXACTLY! I read Andrew's notes on this before coming here today, felt like a kick to the gut! I am a huge Perry fan who has jumped on the Journey bandwagon again with JSS. Very happy at what has been going on but the thought of redoing the classics with JSS is threatening the good will. WHAT are these guys thinking? Not necessary, they have such huge potential to move FORWARD with JSS.

Maybe some one from the band can shed some more light on this topic

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:04 am

Seems just about unanimous. Bad idea.

We need a kick ass studio album by the end of the year, or early next, followed up with an amazing live album/DVD.

Then the shower curtain.

by **Deb** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:10 am

NealIsGod wrote:We need a kick ass studio album by the end of the year, or early next, followed up with an amazing live album/DVD.

Yesssssssssssssssss!

NealIsGod wrote:Then the shower curtain.

MR

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