JSS needs to pass to Deen on "Keep on Runnin'"- A

[Saint John]

sure Soto can sing , but can he juggle on a unicycle at the same time while singing Lights?

YES.....I've seen him do it.

[Andrew]

Damn, it must be Groundhog Day cuz I could have sworn I have read all this shite already.

Yeah, we all have. But this clown keeps bringing it up.

Indeed. So just ignore the baiting.

[Chevypv]

From Jeremey...

This is the Escape audio from the Vegas 2001 DVD:
www.journeytributeband.com/escapevegassolo.wma

This is the Escape audio from the Manchester show in early 2006. Listen for the inflections in the vocal track. They are identical to the Vegas audio:
www.journeytributeband.com/escapemanchestersolo.wma

Now here are both tracks synched together, one in the left ear and one in the right. With headphones on, there is a perfect stereo (identical) vocal mix:
www.journeytributeband.com/splitescapefull.wma

One thing I found surprising was that Augeri did some very specific vocal inflections and melody changeups, and they were identically repeated night after night.

Wow, yeah, Im a singer myself, (although not to the extent of success of other singers here, im mainly choral) but there is no way in hell I could EVER sing a song that perfectly identical, even in a choral setting where everything has to be precise you would hear a mild "chorus" effect if i were to put 2 of my recording side by side, that is painfully obvious that its the same vocal track.....

[JSS]

These days I need not pass anything to Deen, he sings because he wants to & we want him to...we both hit the same notes & guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

[larryfromnextdoor]

These days I need not pass anything to Deen, he sings because he wants to & we want him to...we both hit the same notes & guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

wow! amen brother..

[StevePerryHair]

How many times do people have to be told that Deen sings because HE (and they) wants to, not because he HAS to

[NealIsGod]

How many times do people have to be told that Deen sings because HE (and they) wants to, not because he HAS to

Not anymore.

[Lady Luck]

From Jeremey...

This is the Escape audio from the Vegas 2001 DVD:
www.journeytributeband.com/escapevegassolo.wma

This is the Escape audio from the Manchester show in early 2006. Listen for the inflections in the vocal track. They are identical to the Vegas audio:
www.journeytributeband.com/escapemanchestersolo.wma

Now here are both tracks synched together, one in the left ear and one in the right. With headphones on, there is a perfect stereo (identical) vocal mix:
www.journeytributeband.com/splitescapefull.wma

One thing I found surprising was that Augeri did some very specific vocal inflections and melody changeups, and they were identically repeated night after night.

Wow, yeah, Im a singer myself, (although not to the extent of success of other singers here, im mainly choral) but there is no way in hell I could EVER sing a song that perfectly identical, even in a choral setting where everything has to be precise you would hear a mild "chorus" effect if i were to put 2 of my recording side by side, that is painfully obvious that its the same vocal track.....

Too bad that link to the Faithfully mp3 isn't working anymore. I heard it months ago and trust me, that was even more painful to listen to.

[brywool]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

I like JSS, but I happen to agree with this one (not the Augeri reference). I've heard a bunch of recordings of this with JSS and his voice doesn't cut it on this one. Doesn't make him not up to the job, just this song doesn't work with his voice. It's way too high for him.

How can Journey fans watch this video and think this is a good one to have in the set?

[ohsherrie]

The ones who just want to argue and cause trouble will keep bringing shit like this up because they get some kind of charge out of getting responses to it.

[Melissa]

How many times do people have to be told that Deen sings because HE (and they) wants to, not because he HAS to

Some of us like to hear Deen sing too, I think his voice is amazing

[JSS]

Explanation answered earlier on this thread...it was early in the tour, the throat was tired from previous commitments yet I had to attempt the proper arrangement of the notes within the chorus...ever here Mr. P do it live? He rarely ever went for the answers & just sang with the chorus to make that fuller, the answer high parts were altered to make it easer to get through live...I thought you guys were the experts on this stuff, how come I have to remind you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

I like JSS, but I happen to agree with this one (not the Augeri reference). I've heard a bunch of recordings of this with JSS and his voice doesn't cut it on this one. Doesn't make him not up to the job, just this song doesn't work with his voice. It's way too high for him.

How can Journey fans watch this video and think this is a good one to have in the set?

[FormerJrnyFan]

Explanation answered earlier on this thread...it was early in the tour, the throat was tired from previous commitments yet I had to attempt the proper arrangement of the notes within the chorus...ever here Mr. P do it live? He rarely ever went for the answers & just sang with the chorus to make that fuller, the answer high parts were altered to make it easer to get through live...I thought you guys were the experts on this stuff, how come I have to remind you?

Some just don't get it

[Deb]

sure Soto can sing , but can he juggle on a unicycle at the same time while singing Lights?

Hmmm, Jeff avoided the more important question in this thread.

[The_Noble_Cause]

& guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

Sir, are you trying to imply that a certain, newly out-on-his ass Journey singer was not "SINGING" the songs.
How utterly appauling.
Augeri is a family man and drives an SUV.
You should be ashamed of yourself for casting such tabloidesque aspersions.
Tsk, tsk.

[JSS]

Not at all, on the contrary I was just merely pointing out that we are singers, not shouters, screamers or merely drummers with decent voices! Everyone makes such a fuss everywhere about the fucking high notes yet no one ever comments on the singing so I thought I would. Never meant on a blow to SA or anyone, I'd never do that!

& guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

Sir, are you trying to imply that a certain, newly out-on-his ass Journey singer was not "SINGING" the songs.
How utterly appauling.
Augeri is a family man and drives an SUV.
You should be ashamed of yourself for casting such tabloidesque aspersions.

[JrnyScarab]

I thought you guys were the experts on this stuff, how come I have to remind you?

CLASSIC reply. LMAO!

[****]

& guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

Sir, are you trying to imply that a certain, newly out-on-his ass Journey singer was not "SINGING" the songs.
How utterly appauling.
Augeri is a family man and drives an SUV.
You should be ashamed of yourself for casting such tabloidesque aspersions.
Tsk, tsk.

I see the sarcasm - but thats not what he mean .. I believe he meant both he and Deen can see the same songs and hit the same notes.

[txfirefighter]

& guess what....can SING the songs too!!!

Sir, are you trying to imply that a certain, newly out-on-his ass Journey singer was not "SINGING" the songs.
How utterly appauling.
Augeri is a family man and drives an SUV.
You should be ashamed of yourself for casting such tabloidesque aspersions.
Tsk, tsk.

I see the sarcasm - but thats not what he mean .. I believe he meant both he and Deen can see the same songs and hit the same notes.

Agreed, Kim. It is not Jeff's style to slam like that.

[Crazie Scarab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

If you want 100% "sound-alike" perfection, my advice to you would be to keep listening to the old CD's and ignore anything new.

[Deb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfFPQ8QGoc

Jeff sounds pretty decent for the 1st minute, then it's downhill from there. He sounds amazing on most songs/very reminiscent of Perry in 84' IMO, but he needs to take a page out of the Augeri playbook and pass songs like this, that are simply out of his range, to Deano with his unlimited range!

He was weak on this song last summer in Phoenix as well.

Not sure when during the tour this clip is from, but he hits the notes when he performs this one in Omaha, which was October I think.

[JSS]

This should probably end this thread...I think anyway

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... BA07054B24

[WalrusOct9]

Heh. I'm sold.

If I wanted something that sounded exactly like Perry, I can watch the Houston video over and over again. They're tough songs, I respect anyone with the balls (or lack of balls, as the case may be ) to even attempt to sing them in the original keys. Some nights are going to be better on some songs than others. That's live music, and that's what makes it exciting.


Although since JSS is reading this thread, I really want to know...since this is going to be a lighter year in regards to touring, has there ever been any talk about tuning down 1/2 step to ease the strain on your voice a little? I personally don't think it would affect the quality of the songs as well, since I've seen Bon Jovi, U2, Van Halen, Metallica & plenty others do it without it affecting the show at all. Just curious if it's been discussed at all...Journey's already lost one singer due to the strain, and it'd be pretty devestating for that to happen again (not to mention I love Lost In The Translation, and would be pretty bummed if vocal damage would mean the end of JSS solo albums as well).

[cdjssfan]

Just one question for JSS:

Why are u surfing the net when you guys should surely be rehearsing for the tour kick-off tomorrow night in Sheffield

Make sure you guys rip it up tomorrow night for those in Sheffield and make sure you do the same Saturday night in Glasgow. I'll be there

[JSS]

We're giving it a go on this Euro tour, actually today is the 1st day of trying them out a half step down...u heard it here 1st before the muzoids of the board come on & make attention to it. It is a tough schedule out of the shoot here, 11 shows in the 1st 15 days, so we're giving it a go to see if we're comfortable with it...I like the songs in the original keys personally but I am accustomed to my solo albums & Talisman tuned down so it will be interesting, honestly, the songs are still high ,we'll see how much easier/difficult they are comparitively speaking.

Heh. I'm sold.

If I wanted something that sounded exactly like Perry, I can watch the Houston video over and over again. They're tough songs, I respect anyone with the balls (or lack of balls, as the case may be ) to even attempt to sing them in the original keys. Some nights are going to be better on some songs than others. That's live music, and that's what makes it exciting.


Although since JSS is reading this thread, I really want to know...since this is going to be a lighter year in regards to touring, has there ever been any talk about tuning down 1/2 step to ease the strain on your voice a little? I personally don't think it would affect the quality of the songs as well, since I've seen Bon Jovi, U2, Van Halen, Metallica & plenty others do it without it affecting the show at all. Just curious if it's been discussed at all...Journey's already lost one singer due to the strain, and it'd be pretty devestating for that to happen again (not to mention I love Lost In The Translation, and would be pretty bummed if vocal damage would mean the end of JSS solo albums as well).

[WalrusOct9]

Wow.

Jeff, I couldn't be happier for you right now. I hope the transition goes well and you guys decide to stick with it that way, I think your throat will thank you in the long run.

I think to the diehards here who listen to bootlegs and whatnot, it's going to sound a bit odd at first, but after a few months, no one will even notice. (and neither will 98% of the audience, I'm guessing)

Best of luck with the European shows....(and while you're there in the UK, could you tell Thunder to get their buts over to the States? They'd be a perfect opening act for you guys...the best straight-up rock band on the planet right now, IMO)

[NealIsGod]

This should probably end this thread...I think anyway

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... BA07054B24

Everyone sounds on top of their game, Jeff. You know when was this recorded?

[StevePerryHair]

This should probably end this thread...I think anyway

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... BA07054B24

Sounds great to me! But then, I didn't need proof

[Moon Beam]

We're giving it a go on this Euro tour, actually today is the 1st day of trying them out a half step down...u heard it here 1st before the muzoids of the board come on & make attention to it. It is a tough schedule out of the shoot here, 11 shows in the 1st 15 days.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope
this tour turns out to be loads of fun for
the whole band.

muzoids

[ohsherrie]

......... Everyone makes such a fuss everywhere about the fucking high notes yet no one ever comments on the singing so I thought I would...................

I'm so glad you said that. Sometimes it really seems as if some people think nothing matters in singing a Journey song but hitting high notes. No matter how good the lyrics and melody to a song are, and how well they're sung, it's all about the high notes even though they're often no more than a flourish that was put into the song because Steve Perry could put it there at the time the song was originally recorded. I think that's a bit insulting to the songs and the singer whether it's you or Steve Perry. There's a lot more to the songs, as well as to your voice and singing talent, than high notes just as there is to Steve's.

I hope tuning the songs down works out. Not because you can't hit them just fine, but so that you can keep your beautiful voice in it's best possible shape for the new Journey songs yet to come as well as for singing those great classics.