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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:39 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:PLEASE... do not re-record classic journey with jss. that would be a HUGE mistake. maybe (i said maybe) a song or two but not a whole cd. geez... nobody is going to take them serious if they do something so lame as that. don't waste jeff's time & talent. write & record NEW songs.

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just the thought of this pisses me off. time to move on guys...


Why not? Maybe they're hoping radio stations will play Separate Ways with Jeff instead of Separate Ways with Steve Perry? Might as well introduce your new singer to the public singing one of the classics rather than new material (that the general public usually doesn't give a chance anyway). I personally think that re-recording the classics is a good idea. People are more likely to listen to a classic and hear the new singer than pick up New Album X and listen to the new singer on New Song X.
I can't agree with re-recording the Perry classics. Why throw Jeff out to the wolves? Sure, he can certainly hold his own, but I think that putting out new material is the only way to go...
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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:39 am

are you saying jss can't stand on his own. that to get played on the radio they have to re-record old journey hits? jss should be insulted. }:C)

it's do or die time... not time to take the easy way & re-record songs that they know might get air play. sorry but... fuck that.

i want to hear something new & see what jeff can add to the mix... it's time to take leaps forward not giant huge steps backwards. i would feel the same way if sp decided to re-record old journey or old sp... don't waste our time or yours... been there done that. who do i smack for this dumbass idea?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:42 am

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fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:PLEASE... do not re-record classic journey with jss. that would be a HUGE mistake. maybe (i said maybe) a song or two but not a whole cd. geez... nobody is going to take them serious if they do something so lame as that. don't waste jeff's time & talent. write & record NEW songs.

}:C|

just the thought of this pisses me off. time to move on guys...


Why not? Maybe they're hoping radio stations will play Separate Ways with Jeff instead of Separate Ways with Steve Perry? Might as well introduce your new singer to the public singing one of the classics rather than new material (that the general public usually doesn't give a chance anyway). I personally think that re-recording the classics is a good idea. People are more likely to listen to a classic and hear the new singer than pick up New Album X and listen to the new singer on New Song X.
I can't agree with re-recording the Perry classics. Why throw Jeff out to the wolves? Sure, he can certainly hold his own, but I think that putting out new material is the only way to go...


PLEEEEEEEEEEASE jeff say you hear this! }:C)

they only way this would ever make any sense if they were to record a live cd or dvd...
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:54 am

treetopovskaya wrote: that to get played on the radio they have to re-record old journey hits?


No. It would be a good introduction by having him heard on something familiar. Then, release the new material and I think you'll see more success than was had with Augeri and new material. Hell, put a sticker on the cover of the re-recorded classics saying "Look for the new studio album by Journey featuring Jeff Scott Soto hitting stores in ______"

It'd be counterproductive to just throw out a new album with JSS and expect the public to pick it up. They tried that with Augeri. Introduce JSS on something that the public already knows they like - and that's the Dirty Dozen.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:55 am

by re-recording classic journey jss will forever be compared to steve perry. time for people to notice jeff scott soto. it's long past over due.

now who do i smack? i really want to smack someone. }:C)
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:56 am

treetopovskaya wrote:they only way this would ever make any sense if they were to record a live cd or dvd...


That's true. I'll give you that much. Earlier this year I said that they should record a live DVD from one of the shows on the European Tour and release that before the new album. I guess you could say their idea is similar.
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Postby brywool » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:04 am

RockinDeano wrote:
brywool wrote:Also, this was a lame ass quote too:

"Also what he (jeff) brings to the table that we've never had before is a very, very strong frontman – an entertainer – a guy who knows how to carry himself on stage and work an audience – he's real."


I think Neal was stating the last incarnation of the band. I have spent time with Schon and he can't say a bad word about Espees' talents. How could he?


Regarding Generations- Augeri sang his ass off on that record. He might not've held up on the tour, but on the album he sang great.


Hey, I sing my ass off in my Pathfinder. Doesn't mean I can record a good record. Read between the lines here. Augeri just wasn't that good. Not for this level anyway.


Deano, you can spin Neal's comment anyway you want, but the quote was "...that we've NEVER had before". He's completely mental if that's his thought process. For you to interpret that as "well, he meant the last incarnation" doesn't hold water with the quote.
Regarding Generations- Augeri DID sing his ass off. Why should HE get the blame for what some term as a bad album? At least Augeri wanted to work. Maybe the reason that it wasn't great was because, as Neal pretty much said, he phoned that one in. I think there are a lot of great songs on the album. There are a few that aren't so great. I prefer it over Trial By Fire ANY day of the week. YMMV
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Postby brywool » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:08 am

Barb wrote:I think what is really pissing Neal off is that whatever is repackaged and sold will outsell anything Journey ever does again. At least that has been the case up until now. When this Journey can actually sell new music, he'll have a leg to stand on. He's not making money touring on new music, now is he? :roll:

Neal is just being arrogant and it's a huge turn off.


Well, that's what's going to happen when a MAJOR record label is in charge of your distribution. Generations was pretty much a homegrown effort.

I know, Journey should do a Covers album!!!

(WAY just jokin'. If I hear another one of those, I'm going to puke)
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:24 am

brywool wrote:I know, Journey should do a Covers album!!!

(WAY just jokin'. If I hear another one of those, I'm going to puke)


THAT is where I draw the line! :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:36 am

Memo to Neal and Journey.

Cover album gets you the Mother of all Blogs set in motion. Commit this to memory. :)
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:37 am

RockinDeano wrote:Memo to Neal and Journey.

Cover album gets you the Mother of all Blogs set in motion. Commit this to memory. :)
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:38 am

brywool wrote:
Deano, you can spin Neal's comment anyway you want, but the quote was "...that we've NEVER had before". He's completely mental if that's his thought process. For you to interpret that as "well, he meant the last incarnation" doesn't hold water with the quote.


God knows I have been spinning for the Band lately, and you are right about this. I wasn't even considering Neal to be talking about Perry. I assumed he meant post Perry. Hell, IF Neal thinks this way, he is a dumbass. I am sure he didn't mean this to include Perry as well. Like I said, He has always praised Perry's talents to the highest mark. Trust me, there is a huge amount of respect along with a huge amout of admiration of their craft, between these two.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:41 am

RockinDeano wrote:Memo to Neal and Journey.

Cover album gets you the Mother of all Blogs set in motion. Commit this to memory. :)


That's a relief! :lol:
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Postby LucyFurr » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:44 am

Honestly, I think Perry is enjoying time in the studio, not only with that project, but others now as well. So what if he doesnt want to sing anymore, let the guy rest for God's sake!
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Postby dcvader » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:47 am

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Love the siggy!!!


Thanks for sending it to me! This pic is perfect, it capture's two things I love!
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:16 pm

Barb wrote:I think what is really pissing Neal off is that whatever is repackaged and sold will outsell anything Journey ever does again. At least that has been the case up until now.


That before or after Arrival and Generations both charted Billboard? :) I respect your opinions so I have to assume it was exaggerating as I'm fairly certain none of the old albums reentered the Top 200 in either 96 or 06.
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Postby junky » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:53 pm

dcvader wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:
dcvader wrote:Thanks for posting this. Very interesting indeed!


Love the siggy!!!


Thanks for sending it to me! This pic is perfect, it capture's two things I love!


Now, and who said you don't appreciate good art?? :wink:
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Postby Aaron » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:17 pm

Who's the sig chick dude? Did you find her at the titty bar? Very nice ....

dcvader wrote:
jrnyjunky wrote:
dcvader wrote:Thanks for posting this. Very interesting indeed!


Love the siggy!!!


Thanks for sending it to me! This pic is perfect, it capture's two things I love!
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:19 pm

brywool wrote:Regarding Generations- Augeri DID sing his ass off. Why should HE get the blame for what some term as a bad album?


Of course it sounds like Augeri sung his
ass off on Generations...
Pro-Tools and a few other high-end
components/computer plug-ins can do that
for anyone. You really think Paris Hilton or
Lindsay Lohan can really sing???

brywool wrote:Deano, you can spin Neal's comment anyway you want, but the quote was "...that we've NEVER had before". He's completely mental if that's his thought process. For you to interpret that as "well, he meant the last incarnation" doesn't hold water with the quote.


Neal's exact words were,
" Also what he brings to the table that we've never had before is a very, very strong frontman – an entertainer – a guy who knows how to carry himself on stage and work an audience – he's real. A lot of singers just do the Vegas type thing – you know, they rehearse a show and they say exactly the same thing every night."

In a sense, he is right. Forget Augeri; most agree this statement would fit for him.
But with Perry this statement also makes a little sense.
Perry was phenominal, end of subject.
But even Perry fell into a stage "routine" where the same lines
were spoken to different crowds every night, what Neal refered to
as "Vegas". Perry was a truly great entertainer but he just wasn't as
spontaneous as Jeff is right now. Maybe after touring these tunes
for a few more years, Jeff will fall into that kind of routine (let's hope not).
But for right now, Neal's statement isn't far off.

Plus, you gotta admit, Jeff IS a very, very strong frontman...
That bastard could probably do curls with Perry and Augeri in each fist! :lol:

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Postby AR » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:26 pm

Nothing they can do will get airplay. It can (and might be) a killer new CD, but the musical climate won't allow a mega hit.

Airplay only comes from not writing your own music and appearing on American Idol. None of Journey's peers get airplay anymore either.

Maintain the fanbase. Record something new to keep themselves artistically interested and for the hardcores. Tour and make money.

My opinion (and I'm right)

Even the last Perry fronted Journey album only had 1 hit single.

Don't set yourselves up for disappointment.
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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:41 pm

"We're also re-recording all our Greatest Hits and some of the more obscure songs that are on our big records, with Jeff in the studio. That's probably the first thing we'll put out'


Oh PLEASE! Not this again.....

"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:46 pm

Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).
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Postby Deb » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:52 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


I hope your right, I'd much rather see a new (material) cd and a new concert dvd of this lineup.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:52 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


Yeah, perhaps.....perhaps not.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:53 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


Interesting. I didn't think it was that bad of an idea. But if this means more time will be devoted to the working on new material, I'm all for it.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:53 pm

strungout wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


I hope your right, I'd much rather see a new (material) cd and a new concert dvd of this lineup.



I think that is more likely (both instances)
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Postby Moon Beam » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:54 pm

If these men want my money and attendance they are
gonna have to put out something brand spanking new.
I'd be ok with one or two different versions of originals
but create some new tunes or I ain't buying.
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Postby Deb » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:59 pm

Carlitto H@kk wrote:"Hello Cleveland!!! Look at these Pythons baby!!!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :shock: :D

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Postby Deb » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:08 pm

Andrew wrote:
strungout wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


I hope your right, I'd much rather see a new (material) cd and a new concert dvd of this lineup.



I think that is more likely (both instances)


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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:08 pm

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Andrew might disagree, but I think they Will not do it now. (re-record).


Interesting. I didn't think it was that bad of an idea. But if this means more time will be devoted to the working on new material, I'm all for it.


Dude, those guys are so tight, they can record the GH, live in one take and call it a day. They can do that in a week. If they don't do it, and I don't think they now will, is because of fan reaction, Lee Phillips and Steve Perry. Just my opinion.
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