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Postby SteveForever » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:07 am

Saint John wrote:Journey hired Steve Perry...a guy cleaning shit out of chicken coops. They did just fine (awesome actually). They hired Steve Augeri....a guy working as a maintenance manager at The Gap. They did just fine(til he was forced to walk the plank). Now, they're considering (pure specualtion) hiring a successful 9-5 guy that happens to sing the shit out of the back catalog, and that's a joke? Sorry, but I don't see it that way. For what they seemingly want to do, Jeremey is hands down the best choice. Nothing will be any different if Jeremey is hired, except that you'll be hearing the best renditions of the songs since Perry was around. 8) I just hope they give him a shot at original music.



Beautifully written. I think JSS is going to be have a top charting song on the radio soon, I believe it. BUT Jeremey would be a fantastic choice for Journey! What a gentleman too.
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Postby Jeremey fan forever » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:12 am

That's the closest I ever heard to Perry! Far better than Hugo or Chalfant or Augeri
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Postby Moon Beam » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:13 am

JSS may have been perfect for the lead vocals on new music but
now we'll never know.
As for Jeremey, from what I've heard and seen I think he
could bring talent to the table as well.
Glad he isn't "The chosen one" though as he has bigger things to sink
his heart and soul strings into now and can still enjoy what he does
while getting respect doing it.
Far as Journey going somewhere new.........do you really think that's
ever gonna happen?
This makes it painfully clear to me that they are only gonna bring the
cash cow out to graze on the dirty dozen crop.
I for one will not be eating in that field and I was ready to spend some
green on the ole heifer next tour to.
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Postby jrnysc » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:15 am

SteveForever wrote:
Saint John wrote:Journey hired Steve Perry...a guy cleaning shit out of chicken coops. They did just fine (awesome actually). They hired Steve Augeri....a guy working as a maintenance manager at The Gap. They did just fine(til he was forced to walk the plank). Now, they're considering (pure specualtion) hiring a successful 9-5 guy that happens to sing the shit out of the back catalog, and that's a joke? Sorry, but I don't see it that way. For what they seemingly want to do, Jeremey is hands down the best choice. Nothing will be any different if Jeremey is hired, except that you'll be hearing the best renditions of the songs since Perry was around. 8) I just hope they give him a shot at original music.



Beautifully written. I think JSS is going to be have a top charting song on the radio soon, I believe it. BUT Jeremey would be a fantastic choice for Journey! What a gentleman too.


Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him. That is the only thing I can see that would make him a perfect fit for Journey.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:28 am

jrnysc wrote:Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him.


No, it wouldn't. I doubt Journey has hired someone this quickly. As we know, with Journey you don't count your chickens until they are hatched, grown, eaten and digested. :lol:
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:30 am

jrnysc wrote:
Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him. That is the only thing I can see that would make him a perfect fit for Journey.


Let me clarify this situation, since there's no way to do it gracefully and with depth of meaning. I am not the lead singer of Journey. This does not mean I have not been approached in any way, as I'm sure that's not outside the realm of possibility. But what it does mean is that I haven't auditioned for Journey. I haven't been made any offers to join the band. I haven't talked to anyone from Journey's management. This is simply a fluid situation that could go in many different directions, with a band that is obviously skittish about any publicity and speculation whatsoever. So to end speculation, no, I am not the lead singer of Journey. Read above and repeat.

Meanwhile, I've got a very pregnant wife with serious issues at the moment that are only being agitated by this whole situation, which is the whole reason I came out of hiding here to begin with. So there's nothing more to it than that. I promise you all that if any further develops I will deal in FACTS, not speculation or hearsay. And with that, I'm at work, and I have to get back to my TPS reports.
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Postby jrnysc » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:33 am

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jrnysc wrote:
Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him. That is the only thing I can see that would make him a perfect fit for Journey.


Let me clarify this situation, since there's no way to do it gracefully and with depth of meaning. I am not the lead singer of Journey. This does not mean I have not been approached in any way, as I'm sure that's not outside the realm of possibility. But what it does mean is that I haven't auditioned for Journey. I haven't been made any offers to join the band. I haven't talked to anyone from Journey's management. This is simply a fluid situation that could go in many different directions, with a band that is obviously skittish about any publicity and speculation whatsoever. So to end speculation, no, I am not the lead singer of Journey. Read above and repeat.

Meanwhile, I've got a very pregnant wife with serious issues at the moment that are only being agitated by this whole situation, which is the whole reason I came out of hiding here to begin with. So there's nothing more to it than that. I promise you all that if any further develops I will deal in FACTS, not speculation or hearsay. And with that, I'm at work, and I have to get back to my TPS reports.


Thank you Jeremey, and I certainly hope you know I meant nothing offensive towards you with my post. You are better than those people, and I pray it turns out as it should, however that may be. Best of luck to you and your family.
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Postby SteveForever » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:33 am

jrnysc wrote:
SteveForever wrote:
Saint John wrote:Journey hired Steve Perry...a guy cleaning shit out of chicken coops. They did just fine (awesome actually). They hired Steve Augeri....a guy working as a maintenance manager at The Gap. They did just fine(til he was forced to walk the plank). Now, they're considering (pure specualtion) hiring a successful 9-5 guy that happens to sing the shit out of the back catalog, and that's a joke? Sorry, but I don't see it that way. For what they seemingly want to do, Jeremey is hands down the best choice. Nothing will be any different if Jeremey is hired, except that you'll be hearing the best renditions of the songs since Perry was around. 8) I just hope they give him a shot at original music.



Beautifully written. I think JSS is going to be have a top charting song on the radio soon, I believe it. BUT Jeremey would be a fantastic choice for Journey! What a gentleman too.


Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him. That is the only thing I can see that would make him a perfect fit for Journey.


No it would not make anyone a liar, harsh words over and over.....maybe they have not chosen anyone just yet. This is a business, its run like any big corporation I imagine. People, words hurt, this is the internet yes, but words hurt and people are real.
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:34 am

I hope they hire Jeremy but it seems doubtfull. I wouldnt be a damn bit shocked if they called it a day to be honest. Jeremy, you kick total ass and if you did get the gig there would be all kinds of fallout and controvery just like there was when JSS was hired. If any member of Journey is replaced there will be a shitstorm of lovers and haters. Personally, I think they should hire Tom Jones and play everything 5 steps down...

They should have stuck with JSS. He has a devoted following in his own right and people had accepted him as the guy. I think I speak for all of us when I say that we were all looking forward to a harder rocking new Journey album with JSS and now we have no idea whats coming. I am assuming that the writing chemistry between JSS and Neal/John didnt work out. I do know this. If they hire SA back to the band I will no longer give a fuck what they do and probably just stop looking forward and enjoy what was... Now all we need is some realyl high quality soundboards of JSS to celebrate he great but short lived reign.

I am sad for JSS if this wasnt what he wanted and was "fired".....
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:42 am

I think everybody on this board knows how much I think of Jeremey as a singer, a performer and a person.

None of the negative statements I've made about this situation have anything to do with how I feel about Jeremey. It's all about how disgusted I am with Jon and Neal for using and discarding Jeff the way they have. I've completely lost what respect Journey regained from me when they brought Jeff on board.

If Journey is in your future Jeremey I know it'll be the opportunity of a lifetime for you as it was for Jeff, and I know you'll do a kickass job of it. If you're in my area performing I'll come to see you regardless of the name of the band.

Just watch your back my friend.
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Postby jrnysc » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:43 am

SteveForever wrote:
jrnysc wrote:
SteveForever wrote:
Saint John wrote:Journey hired Steve Perry...a guy cleaning shit out of chicken coops. They did just fine (awesome actually). They hired Steve Augeri....a guy working as a maintenance manager at The Gap. They did just fine(til he was forced to walk the plank). Now, they're considering (pure specualtion) hiring a successful 9-5 guy that happens to sing the shit out of the back catalog, and that's a joke? Sorry, but I don't see it that way. For what they seemingly want to do, Jeremey is hands down the best choice. Nothing will be any different if Jeremey is hired, except that you'll be hearing the best renditions of the songs since Perry was around. 8) I just hope they give him a shot at original music.



Beautifully written. I think JSS is going to be have a top charting song on the radio soon, I believe it. BUT Jeremey would be a fantastic choice for Journey! What a gentleman too.


Yes. Jeremey has always seemed like a gentleman. However, based on what he said earlier in this thread, making it clear he IS NOT the new lead singer, that would make him a liar if it indeed is him. That is the only thing I can see that would make him a perfect fit for Journey.


No it would not make anyone a liar, harsh words over and over.....maybe they have not chosen anyone just yet. This is a business, its run like any big corporation I imagine. People, words hurt, this is the internet yes, but words hurt and people are real.


Yes, I understand words, and actions alike. I am in management working for the trauma department in a level 1 trauma center. I see and deal with death, pain, and suffering every day. What I said is nothing I wouldn't say if Jeremey were sitting right here. The truth sometimes hurt, whether in real life or on the internet. The way I was raised, and you say your not something you are, it's a lie. Pretty simple stuff there.
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Postby jrnysc » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:45 am

ohsherrie wrote:I think everybody on this board knows how much I think of Jeremey as a singer, a performer and a person.

None of the negative statements I've made about this situation have anything to do with how I feel about Jeremey. It's all about how disgusted I am with Jon and Neal for using and discarding Jeff the way they have. I've completely lost what respect Journey regained from me when they brought Jeff on board.

If Journey is in your future Jeremey I know it'll be the opportunity of a lifetime for you as it was for Jeff, and I know you'll do a kickass job of it. If you're in my area performing I'll come to see you regardless of the name of the band.

Just watch your back my friend.


My point exactly! My comments were directed towards Journey, not Jeremey.
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Postby BBKenny » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:00 am

King Diamond Rulz! LOL! Just for you bro. In the end, you are still one of the best damn singers I know. Remember, my fortune cookies don't lie....
My 2 cents.... Family comes first and you don't have to justify ANYTHING about your singing. Nuff said.... :D
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Re: Frontiers - You cannot be serious!

Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:24 am

NealIsGod wrote: If ANYONE deserves the job now, it's you, J.



Indeedio. 8)
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Postby finalfight » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:26 am

Ah, yes the king does indeed rule. \m/ :twisted: \m/
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:41 am

Jeremey a joke? I dont think so. Journey is the joke. Go on the road for eight years, dont take a break, ruin a singers voice then have him lipp and they go along with it. {it was his choice also] they get caught, hire another singer and dump him while he is out the country. Thats the joke and a bad one at that. I like the music of Journey and nothing else about them. Jeremey has performed up and down the eastcoast and other places for years sounding better than Journey,for a few bucks cause of the love of the music{the same reason we travel to see Journey} He has every right for the chance to be Journey's lead singer. I dont they deserve him,and he better get a good lawyer. Go see them live and you will see that it wouldnt be a joke at all.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:00 am

Saint John wrote: they're considering (pure specualtion) hiring a successful 9-5 guy that happens to sing the shit out of the back catalog


If THIS isn't the coolest part of it, I don't know what is....JH is even more one of us than cool JSS was.
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Postby Rick » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:32 am

I would like to first say that I hate what they did to Jeff. I've never seen things handled in such an unprofessional manner. There is a right way to do something like that, then there is the Journey way. I will follow Jeff's career from now on.

That said, I would like to say that we all need to let the smoke clear and emotions calm down before we speak sometimes. Jeremey would do an excellent job fronting Journey. There is nobody better for the job. He knows the catalog forwards and backwards, and can sing the hell out of it. I've not seen them live, but I have a few bootlegs of theirs (Frontiers), and they are the real deal. Everyone here knows as well as I do that 90% of the people that go to see a Journey concert go to see the dirty dozen sang by Steve Perry. Well SP's out, and if you want someone that can sing the catalog with the same timbre and emotion, it's Jeremey. He will give the people what they want. And why would anyone choose to believe that Jeremey can't write music? He's a musician in a band that plays Journey's music. Anyone who knows music also knows that playing Journey music is damn difficult. The dude is immensely talented.

My only concern is for Jeremey and his family. Journey has a bad reputation for the way they handle business affairs. Ask Jeff and Steve A..
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:47 am

Rick wrote:My only concern is for Jeremey and his family. Journey has a bad reputation for the way they handle business affairs. Ask Jeff and Steve A..


For those of us that have been here awhile
and are not just clogging up bandwidth while BT is closed,
that is EXACTLY our point!

We are in NO WAY trying to show any disrespect to Jeremey or
to degrade how talented he truly is.
We are actually trying to do the opposite by letting
him know that we support him and believe e is better than this
and above this kind of organization.

He KNOWS he's got ALOT of friends here and we just don't want
to see him get burned like so many before him...
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Postby Lula » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:28 am

Fist off, why the hell did they let Jeff go? As I see it, they (Jon and Neal) have no intention of pleasing the hard core fan base, but would rather cash in on the summer concert circuit playing the tried and true dirty dozen. What about those reviews? All those words of praise for Jeff..... new life into the band, etc... too much for the fragile egos of aging men? Then again Jeff is smart and has survived in this business over 20 years, he has ideas, he likes pleasing the fan base and he has a stage presence that demands attention. Why did they let Jeff go? Afraid of having to work? Afraid of success? Afraid of the integrity he restored? Big mistake. Why am I surprised though? They went on without Perry. They hired someone they swore was not a Perry clone. They cheated their fans, me out of thousands of dollars, by piping in lead vocals and making a mockery of what was once great. They bring in Jeff, he saves the tour and Journey, et al, millions, he wins fans over and brings new ones to the fold..... and he's fired?

With all due respect Jeremy you are in a band called Frontiers, which in my understanding is a tribute to Journey. I don't knock what you do. I'm in the camp of folks that simply does not dig tribute bands, it's nothing personal. You've done a bit of double speak here. You were vocal in the tapegate trials and now you are staying quiet on the treatment of Jeff. I would think your respect for the music and perhaps your kinship with Jeff would have you somewhat outraged, but it's your call. As for Journey hiring a singer from a tribute band, yeah I think it is a mistake and I'll tell you why. With Augeri there was always a comparison to Perry. With Jeff at the helm, for me there was a promise that the band would once again be relevant as new material would be recorded and Jeff would continue to move the band forward. Jeff can sing the catalogue, doing it justice without being called a Perry clone. A singer from a tribute band simply puts the band back in the shadow of their glory days, their days with Perry. It shows they are cowards and have no faith in their talent. They want the safety net of Perry's sound. This is not about you as an individual, this is about seeing my favorite band take the easy way out and shit on me in the process. Their lack of class is disgusting. I wish you the best in whatever happens for you. Journey will certainly survive without my fan ship.
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Postby jrnysc » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:52 am

Lula wrote:Fist off, why the hell did they let Jeff go? As I see it, they (Jon and Neal) have no intention of pleasing the hard core fan base, but would rather cash in on the summer concert circuit playing the tried and true dirty dozen. What about those reviews? All those words of praise for Jeff..... new life into the band, etc... too much for the fragile egos of aging men? Then again Jeff is smart and has survived in this business over 20 years, he has ideas, he likes pleasing the fan base and he has a stage presence that demands attention. Why did they let Jeff go? Afraid of having to work? Afraid of success? Afraid of the integrity he restored? Big mistake. Why am I surprised though? They went on without Perry. They hired someone they swore was not a Perry clone. They cheated their fans, me out of thousands of dollars, by piping in lead vocals and making a mockery of what was once great. They bring in Jeff, he saves the tour and Journey, et al, millions, he wins fans over and brings new ones to the fold..... and he's fired?

With all due respect Jeremy you are in a band called Frontiers, which in my understanding is a tribute to Journey. I don't knock what you do. I'm in the camp of folks that simply does not dig tribute bands, it's nothing personal. You've done a bit of double speak here. You were vocal in the tapegate trials and now you are staying quiet on the treatment of Jeff. I would think your respect for the music and perhaps your kinship with Jeff would have you somewhat outraged, but it's your call. As for Journey hiring a singer from a tribute band, yeah I think it is a mistake and I'll tell you why. With Augeri there was always a comparison to Perry. With Jeff at the helm, for me there was a promise that the band would once again be relevant as new material would be recorded and Jeff would continue to move the band forward. Jeff can sing the catalogue, doing it justice without being called a Perry clone. A singer from a tribute band simply puts the band back in the shadow of their glory days, their days with Perry. It shows they are cowards and have no faith in their talent. They want the safety net of Perry's sound. This is not about you as an individual, this is about seeing my favorite band take the easy way out and shit on me in the process. Their lack of class is disgusting. I wish you the best in whatever happens for you. Journey will certainly survive without my fan ship.


Lula. Another beautifully crafted post. They say they want to go in another direction? I thought that was one big reason Jeff was there? My money says the same as yours. They go back to as identical a Perry clone as they can find, and as long as they keep their mouth shut and do as their told, and God forbid their voice falter, they will continue to cash in on the concert circuit as you said every summer. They are indeed cowards, afraid of future success. They can say what they want about Perry. They have and are showing him and his voice are their security blanket, their babies thumb as it were.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:53 am

Lula wrote:Fist off, why the hell did they let Jeff go?

Maybe Jon decided he didn't want JSS in afterall, threatened to retire the band if JSS wasn't fired telling Neal he would never sign off on the name as Perry did...Neal has another divorce to finance...screw friendship and chemistry...just a thought.
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:16 am

Lula wrote:Fist off, why the hell did they let Jeff go? As I see it, they (Jon and Neal) have no intention of pleasing the hard core fan base, but would rather cash in on the summer concert circuit playing the tried and true dirty dozen. What about those reviews? All those words of praise for Jeff..... new life into the band, etc... too much for the fragile egos of aging men? Then again Jeff is smart and has survived in this business over 20 years, he has ideas, he likes pleasing the fan base and he has a stage presence that demands attention. Why did they let Jeff go? Afraid of having to work? Afraid of success? Afraid of the integrity he restored? Big mistake. Why am I surprised though? They went on without Perry. They hired someone they swore was not a Perry clone. They cheated their fans, me out of thousands of dollars, by piping in lead vocals and making a mockery of what was once great. They bring in Jeff, he saves the tour and Journey, et al, millions, he wins fans over and brings new ones to the fold..... and he's fired?

With all due respect Jeremy you are in a band called Frontiers, which in my understanding is a tribute to Journey. I don't knock what you do. I'm in the camp of folks that simply does not dig tribute bands, it's nothing personal. You've done a bit of double speak here. You were vocal in the tapegate trials and now you are staying quiet on the treatment of Jeff. I would think your respect for the music and perhaps your kinship with Jeff would have you somewhat outraged, but it's your call. As for Journey hiring a singer from a tribute band, yeah I think it is a mistake and I'll tell you why. With Augeri there was always a comparison to Perry. With Jeff at the helm, for me there was a promise that the band would once again be relevant as new material would be recorded and Jeff would continue to move the band forward. Jeff can sing the catalogue, doing it justice without being called a Perry clone. A singer from a tribute band simply puts the band back in the shadow of their glory days, their days with Perry. It shows they are cowards and have no faith in their talent. They want the safety net of Perry's sound. This is not about you as an individual, this is about seeing my favorite band take the easy way out and shit on me in the process. Their lack of class is disgusting. I wish you the best in whatever happens for you. Journey will certainly survive without my fan ship.


Lula, thanks for your post and I respect your opinion. Only two points I can make here. First off, I never instigated anything as far as TG went. I was approached behind the scenes by people involved to help provide support for their arguments. The fan base was tearing itself apart. I was not outraged at Steve A or the band - As every post I made emphasized the fact that "everyone has to do this at one point or another, please look at this evidence and make your own decisions." Again, I was asked to offer some professional expertise to that situation, and only came forward with some information in the hopes of quelling the battling between the fan camps. I came to help a friend online who asked me to help bolster their situation. Now point 2, why am I not as outraged about JSS' situation? Who says I am not? Who says it doesn't look like shit and it tears me up to see people battling about it! But now, like it or not, I'm part of the story. So I'm doing my best to maintain some level of impartiality here, while at the same time not adding to any speculation or further damage to the fan base. This whole thing will work itself out. As I've said continually to you and people in private messages and publically, the dust will settle, the music will survive.

If tribute bands aren't your thing, then I am fine with that too. The point of my original post was why is it particularly bad to have a tribute band singer as a singer (who knows the catalog possibly more than the band themselves), versus a singer from another area or genre of music that may not have the same perspective on the material?

I apologize to you Lula, for anything I may have said or done to offend anyone, and I plan on counting all of you among my friends no matter what happens, but don't make a TG comparison here when there isn't one to be made. I hope I've been clear in my role in all of this and how much a night and day situation this is versus when I was approached to help out someone who was getting sandbagged left and right.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:19 am

Jeremy,

Let's talk for real here. Technically, no, you aren't the lead singer, yet. I know you are coming out to California to audition for these creepy fuckers. I can't say I blame you for doing it, but there are many questions unanswered.

I am surprised they are allowing you to talk on here. Probably want you to behave as you would normally. I wonder if the fan reaction here has you thinking twice about this gig? I wouldn't want this job, even if I could sing that well, in a million years.

Have you conveniently forgotten that these same people fought you tooth and nail over recording and video rights? They blocked everything you tried to do. Yet, I guess money will heal all wounds. As for the opportunity, I really don't think of it as anything special. These guys are nothing anymore. The fact that that they took their new chance that was handed to them, and pissed it away yet again, simply suggests that Journey is garbage.

I do hope you have a lawyer with you when you sign your contract.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:22 am

RockinDeano wrote:Jeremy,

Let's talk for real here. Technically, no, you aren't the lead singer, yet. I know you are coming out to California to audition for these creepy fuckers. I can't say I blame you for doing it, but there are many questions unanswered.

I am surprised they are allowing you to talk on here. Probably want you to behave as you would normally. I wonder if the fan reaction here has you thinking twice about this gig? I wouldn't want this job, even if I could sing that well, in a million years.

Have you conveniently forgotten that these same people fought you tooth and nail over recording and video rights? They blocked everything you tried to do. Yet, I guess money will heal all wounds. As for the opportunity, I really don't think of it as anything special. These guys are nothing anymore. The fact that that they took their new chance that was handed to them, and pissed it away yet again, simply suggests that Journey is garbage.

I do hope you have a lawyer with you when you sign your contract.


Brother I'm with you Jer......They did fuck you quite a bit from what YOU have told us over the years.....THIS IS NOT A STAR GIG ANYMORE....It's a STATE FAIR band at BEST!!! Think before you hit that plane brother......They are all a bunch of fucking snakes....

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Postby Jeremey » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am

RockinDeano wrote:Jeremy,

Let's talk for real here. Technically, no, you aren't the lead singer, yet. I know you are coming out to California to audition for these creepy fuckers. I can't say I blame you for doing it, but there are many questions unanswered.

I am surprised they are allowing you to talk on here. Probably want you to behave as you would normally. I wonder if the fan reaction here has you thinking twice about this gig? I wouldn't want this job, even if I could sing that well, in a million years.

Have you conveniently forgotten that these same people fought you tooth and nail over recording and video rights? They blocked everything you tried to do. Yet, I guess money will heal all wounds. As for the opportunity, I really don't think of it as anything special. These guys are nothing anymore. The fact that that they took their new chance that was handed to them, and pissed it away yet again, simply suggests that Journey is garbage.

I do hope you have a lawyer with you when you sign your contract.


Dean, I appreciate your perspective and consider you a friend as well. As I've said before, no offers have been made, I've yet to talk to anyone in management. There's no smoking gun there, but I am excited about being able to just sit down at a piano with a few of the most talented songwriters of the past 25 years and make some music. That's an offer that no one in their wildest dreams would have imagined. I am online only to address questions where I can regarding my potential future with the band. As it stands, there is nothing in place. I am at my job right now, and I have health insurance and a baby on the way, and an amazing opportunity to shake hands with a few of my idols. Should this go any further, it's true that I probably won't be around her very much, but for now, there is nothing more than the potential of living out a dream for a few days and that's enough for me - And it would be enough for anyone of you.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:29 am

Jeremey wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Jeremy,

Let's talk for real here. Technically, no, you aren't the lead singer, yet. I know you are coming out to California to audition for these creepy fuckers. I can't say I blame you for doing it, but there are many questions unanswered.

I am surprised they are allowing you to talk on here. Probably want you to behave as you would normally. I wonder if the fan reaction here has you thinking twice about this gig? I wouldn't want this job, even if I could sing that well, in a million years.

Have you conveniently forgotten that these same people fought you tooth and nail over recording and video rights? They blocked everything you tried to do. Yet, I guess money will heal all wounds. As for the opportunity, I really don't think of it as anything special. These guys are nothing anymore. The fact that that they took their new chance that was handed to them, and pissed it away yet again, simply suggests that Journey is garbage.

I do hope you have a lawyer with you when you sign your contract.



Dean, I appreciate your perspective and consider you a friend as well. As I've said before, no offers have been made, I've yet to talk to anyone in management. There's no smoking gun there, but I am excited about being able to just sit down at a piano with a few of the most talented songwriters of the past 25 years and make some music. That's an offer that no one in their wildest dreams would have imagined. I am online only to address questions where I can regarding my potential future with the band. As it stands, there is nothing in place. I am at my job right now, and I have health insurance and a baby on the way, and an amazing opportunity to shake hands with a few of my idols. Should this go any further, it's true that I probably won't be around her very much, but for now, there is nothing more than the potential of living out a dream for a few days and that's enough for me - And it would be enough for anyone of you.


Well, All I can say at this point Jer, is Good Luck. I wish you ALOT of LUCK and hope all works out. I'm out on this one!!!

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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:31 am

Once they hear J sing, it IS going to go further.

I also recall during full pitch battle w/ Deano and TNC over 'gate I asked JH to weigh in, NOT KNOWING what he'd say....And I do recall that he trashed neither Augeri, the band, Deano/TNC or the Augeri supporters in concluding that tapes had to have been deployed on the 05 tour.

In fact, I'd say that J was showing early signs then of being able to unify the fan base as it made me realize I was wrongly burying rnd and tnc :D
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Postby chad » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:43 am

In all the hoopla about who the new "singer" is...I can care less

I would like to know WHAT the hell happened!

I care about this band only to sustatin their legacy (or now, lack thereof) as I don't want them to become a parody of themselves. I grew up with them...saw them with Perry several times. It was magic.

Why was Jeff let go? How come he didn't know? Why so unexpected?

Excuse the analogy, but is Journey doing Rocky 15? I thought Jeff was the perfect choice for them to become relevant again. Be creative.

But, like someone said earlier, they are doing this to play only the hits. Catering to the majority of Journey concert goers.
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Postby roycap » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:47 am

Jeremey - A couple of thoughts:

1) Good luck with the meeting. You could never pass up this opportunity.
2) I would sign off this forum asap. To Deano's point - I'm surprised they did not warn you to stay off and cease all communication with fans. I don't think they like this discussion much.
3) Don't let your heart control your decision. Use a neutral 3rd party to run this past before signing anything. Protect yourself and your family.
4) If you get it, kick some ass and convert all of us skeptics over to your corner.
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