Lula wrote:Fist off, why the hell did they let Jeff go? As I see it, they (Jon and Neal) have no intention of pleasing the hard core fan base, but would rather cash in on the summer concert circuit playing the tried and true dirty dozen. What about those reviews? All those words of praise for Jeff..... new life into the band, etc... too much for the fragile egos of aging men? Then again Jeff is smart and has survived in this business over 20 years, he has ideas, he likes pleasing the fan base and he has a stage presence that demands attention. Why did they let Jeff go? Afraid of having to work? Afraid of success? Afraid of the integrity he restored? Big mistake. Why am I surprised though? They went on without Perry. They hired someone they swore was not a Perry clone. They cheated their fans, me out of thousands of dollars, by piping in lead vocals and making a mockery of what was once great. They bring in Jeff, he saves the tour and Journey, et al, millions, he wins fans over and brings new ones to the fold..... and he's fired?
With all due respect Jeremy you are in a band called Frontiers, which in my understanding is a tribute to Journey. I don't knock what you do. I'm in the camp of folks that simply does not dig tribute bands, it's nothing personal. You've done a bit of double speak here. You were vocal in the tapegate trials and now you are staying quiet on the treatment of Jeff. I would think your respect for the music and perhaps your kinship with Jeff would have you somewhat outraged, but it's your call. As for Journey hiring a singer from a tribute band, yeah I think it is a mistake and I'll tell you why. With Augeri there was always a comparison to Perry. With Jeff at the helm, for me there was a promise that the band would once again be relevant as new material would be recorded and Jeff would continue to move the band forward. Jeff can sing the catalogue, doing it justice without being called a Perry clone. A singer from a tribute band simply puts the band back in the shadow of their glory days, their days with Perry. It shows they are cowards and have no faith in their talent. They want the safety net of Perry's sound. This is not about you as an individual, this is about seeing my favorite band take the easy way out and shit on me in the process. Their lack of class is disgusting. I wish you the best in whatever happens for you. Journey will certainly survive without my fan ship.
Lula, thanks for your post and I respect your opinion. Only two points I can make here. First off, I never instigated anything as far as TG went. I was approached behind the scenes by people involved to help provide support for their arguments. The fan base was tearing itself apart. I was not outraged at Steve A or the band - As every post I made emphasized the fact that "everyone has to do this at one point or another, please look at this evidence and make your own decisions." Again, I was asked to offer some professional expertise to that situation, and only came forward with some information in the hopes of quelling the battling between the fan camps. I came to help a friend online who asked me to help bolster their situation. Now point 2, why am I not as outraged about JSS' situation? Who says I am not? Who says it doesn't look like shit and it tears me up to see people battling about it! But now, like it or not, I'm part of the story. So I'm doing my best to maintain some level of impartiality here, while at the same time not adding to any speculation or further damage to the fan base. This whole thing will work itself out. As I've said continually to you and people in private messages and publically, the dust will settle, the music will survive.
If tribute bands aren't your thing, then I am fine with that too. The point of my original post was why is it particularly bad to have a tribute band singer as a singer (who knows the catalog possibly more than the band themselves), versus a singer from another area or genre of music that may not have the same perspective on the material?
I apologize to you Lula, for anything I may have said or done to offend
anyone, and I plan on counting all of you among my friends no matter what happens, but don't make a TG comparison here when there isn't one to be made. I hope I've been clear in my role in all of this and how much a night and day situation this is versus when I was approached to help out someone who was getting sandbagged left and right.