Jeremy vs. Hugo...please explain

[conversationpc]

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

While your admiring other people's asses, yours hasn't exactly been keeping that low of a profile.

Why should I be!!!!

If you didn't get that comment then you're too stupid for me to bother explaining it.

[Aaron]

I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

[gatorzone04]

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

While your admiring other people's asses, yours hasn't exactly been keeping that low of a profile.

Why should I be!!!!

If you didn't get that comment then you're too stupid for me to bother explaining it.

I got your comment moron; just want to see some intelligent life here, not some idiotic statements and name calling.

[conversationpc]

I got your comment moron; just want to see some intelligent life here, not some idiotic statements and name calling.

[gatorzone04]

I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

Bravo Aaron!!!

[conversationpc]

I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

I'll defer to Nora or Jeremey or whoever has more knowledge on this, but most of the high notes that Perry hit back in the day were not done in falsetto but head voice.

[Saint John]

This thread is getting good. Now we just need some below the belt personal attacks. Who's gonna go first?

[conversationpc]

This thread is getting good. Now we just need some below the belt personal attacks. Who's gonna go first?

[The Fly]

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

Obviously we have not met.

Yeah meet Jeremey's bitch! No Saint here.

[yulog]

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

[Voyager]

Are you guys serious when you say Journey is considering having Jeremey as their new lead singer? Nothing against the guy, but to me that would be completely lame. What if the Rolling Stones booted Mick Jagger and replaced him with numerous different Stones cover band singers? That would become a joke after about the second round - which is what Journey has become in my book: A joke.

Neal is a great guitarist, Jon Cain is a great keyboardist, and Steve Perry is a great vocalist (if not the greatest). But to continue parading Perry-impressionists out on national tours and calling it "Journey" has become more than I can stomach. Enough is enough.

[Marabelle]

I think Jeremey will do better if he stayed doing what he is doing. I don't think it would be a good thing to get involved with the band. Nothing never has ever come good from it. Money perhaps; but that seems to be about all.

[Aaron]

Dave,

I'm no expert but here's my understanding of falsetto from what I've studied:

1. If you're using "head voice" or head resonance, that can happen in normal voice or falsetto. Falsetto typically requires more air than normal and not all of the vocal chords are doing the vibration to achieve the note. Only the edges of the vocal chords vibrate. The most "powerful" falsetto is when male singers use "head voice" and falsetto to hit those high notes with power.

2. Falsetto technically happens when you hit a gap in your range going upward in pitch. There is a "loss of control" or a gap in pitch that defines the change from normal voice to falsetto. The position of the throat and mouth are key in determining if "head voice" is hit or not. I believe that Jeremey uses much more "head voice" to get his power. Hugo doesn't use it as much singing Journey stuff. If you want to hear what Hugo can do, go have a listen to Valentine.

As far as Perry goes, he used "3" different voices according to the man himself (and don't ask me to find the interview). Anyhow, those three voices I'm assuming are normal, head voice (falsetto or not) and falsetto with no head voice. You can feel resonance in your head in "head voice" so I can see where this would be interpreted as another voice. If you listen to Sweet and Simple, Perry is clearly in his falsetto, non-head-voice range. I'm assuming it took a pair of vice grips on the ole nut sack as well to hit those notes. In any event, he rocked, falsetto or not.

And as you've mentioned, I'll deffer to the local experts for more accurate information.

L8r,

Aaron

I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

I'll defer to Nora or Jeremey or whoever has more knowledge on this, but most of the high notes that Perry hit back in the day were not done in falsetto but head voice.

[Aaron]

Dude,

Get ready, they are definitely considering Jeremey for the gig. The bottom line, the dude can sing and I'd be happy for him to get the gig. He just needs to go in with his eyes open so to speak.

l8r bro,

Aaron

Are you guys serious when you say Journey is considering having Jeremey as their new lead singer? Nothing against the guy, but to me that would be completely lame. What if the Rolling Stones booted Mick Jagger and replaced him with numerous different Stones cover band singers? That would become a joke after about the second round - which is what Journey has become in my book: A joke.

Neal is a great guitarist, Jon Cain is a great keyboardist, and Steve Perry is a great vocalist (if not the greatest). But to continue parading Perry-impressionists out on national tours and calling it "Journey" has become more than I can stomach. Enough is enough.

[BobbyinTN]

I think I like Jeremey's voice better on his originals.

Honestly, I'd rather have someone that sounded Perry-ish singing lead for Journey.

I think JSS is an awesome vocalist, but he's just not Journey enough. I do believe he got a shitty deal, as did Steve Augeri and unless they do something so incredible that it blows my mind, I doubt I'll buy anything new or go to a gig. Jeremey could change my mind though.

[JH'sTXfan]

I agree with a lot of other people on here. Jeremey has a very powerful, versatile voice. We originally heard these songs done by a powerful singer. His voice just seems to fit the way the music was originally written. That's what I would like to hear in the future.

This is a very good example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INEio5ky ... er&search=

[ohsherrie]

It's really pretty simple. Jeremey kicks ass on the songs. Hugo sings the songs well.

[Jeremey fan forever]

He still sucks. Prove me wrong. I'm tired of listening to those of you who say he doesn't with no proof. The clips on Youtube and journeyshow.com all back up what I'm saying, which is that he sucks. The solo stuff, Valentine, openskyz, etc. are simply impossible to find, and his personal website seems to be gone or relocated to I don't know where, so again: If you say he is a good singer, bring the proof. video, sound clips, boots, anything. The fact that none of the aformentioned probably even exist, adds support to my theory: Hugo sucks.

Yes he does.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Compare this (Hugo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6oY8k-zNo with this (Jeremey) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlVA1Ke18Lo and decide for yourself. I think it's a coin toss myself, and the visual goes to Hugo. Jeremey obviously has a fuller voice and better range, but it doesn't have a Perry tone to it.

That said, I don't think either one of them hold a candle to Steve Perry. It's like trying to find a replacement for Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler - it can't be done.

A coin is supposed to have 2 sides! But you are right, nobody holds a candle to Perry, not even Jeremey. But if you toss a coin over Hugo and Jeremey it will come up Jeremey every time. That wasn't one of Jeremey's best, I'll give you that, but when I watched Hugo's for the 10 seconds I could stand it, I felt like I was listening to a little girl in Perry drag singing. Just dreadful. Seriously.

[Rick]

Here's a song from Valentine sung by Hugo. When he sings with Valentine he's good, but him singing Journey songs is not his strong suit.

http://download.yousendit.com/709909420D037234

[Jeremey fan forever]

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

You are the biggest ass I have seen on this board!!!!!!

Why am I an ass for saying I don't like someone's singing? You are the one calling names, I never called you a queer or anything, for liking what you like! Are you a relative or something? I never disparaged his character, only his talent (lack of) so calm down, big guy!

[Jeremey fan forever]

Here's a song from Valentine sung by Hugo. When he sings with Valentine he's good, but him singing Journey songs is not his strong suit.

http://download.yousendit.com/709909420D037234

Thanks, I'll check it out now!

I'm not unfair, and I've been known to change my mind in here on a number of occassions. I don't think I'll change my mind about how poorly he does the Journey catelogue though, I've pretty much exhausted that, and I've listened a lot! I think I'll have to stop doing that though, because it really grates on me to hear it. Really bad!

[Rick]

I've had enough of your shit asshole. I'm not sure if you're Jeremey's mom or sister but I'm sure that will come to light soon enough. I like Jeremey a lot, but with fuckheads like you supporting him, it's a good reason to pull for someone else.

Falsetto is used by every fucking non-fag male singer to hit range Journey operates in. Steve Perry himself used falsetto to hit those notes. Falsetto can be powerful or not depending on how you apply it. Dumb fuck! The only person that sucks around here is you.

I think both guys have their merits. Jeremey has a great voice with a lot power. Hugo has a bit of a smoother voice that can hit the high high notes with a bit more finesse.

Actually its called falsetto, not finesse. Hugo sucks

Bravo Aaron!!!

Oops, sorry. I thought it was someone else. I got JTF and JFF mixed up.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Here's a song from Valentine sung by Hugo. When he sings with Valentine he's good, but him singing Journey songs is not his strong suit.

http://download.yousendit.com/709909420D037234

My review of the song:

Good song writing, nice melody, and the first thing I ever heard from Hugo that didn't make me shudder, and a pretty good vocal performance, honestly. I liked this song. The weird thing about it, is that it has a Bryan Adams feel. Not vocally so much, but just the vibe of the song feels like Adams could have written it, which is a compliment.

I do not hear any similarities between Hugo and Perry's voice here (or anywhere so far) but the weird thing is that I don't even hear a Perry influence in his style of singing on this song. That's not a bad thing either.

I guess my bottom line would have to be that, even though Hugo is absolutely horrible at Perry/Journey songs, when he does his own songs in his own style, he sounds pretty good, and I could listen to it and even like it (although it is only one song!).

I won't say Hugo sucks anymore, but I will say that he sucks at singing Journey, and if he got that gig it would be a great disappointment and a mistake. That is not an insult either, because there are hundreds of tremendoulsy gifted and talented singers who don't belong in Journey. Hugo is one of them.

[Marc Brunengraber]

If Hugo 'sucks' at singing Journey, that would make Jeremey beyond atrocious.

Of course, Hugo not only doesn't suck, he's fucking awesome singing both Journey and his own stuff. Hundreds of comments on youtube from people who are not hardcore music messageboard posters like we are attest to that 'fact,' as you like to put it.

Hugo is simply more like Perry than Jeremey, despite Jeremey having a more powerful voice. And he looks the part a zillion times more than Jeremey. He'd be far better for Journey than Jeremey.

All of this 'Hugo is so much like Perry it's creepy' is a crock of shit, regardless of whether Schon himself said it.

If you want a Perry clone, Hugo is the best choice in the world. Period.

If you wanted to go in a new direction, and have a world class singer who didn't sound exactly like Perry but still did justice to the catalog, JSS was the man.

And he still should be, rendering this entire debate moot.

Don't worry, Jeremey's Mom Forever - your man has by all accounts gotten the gig.

You can go front row, post on BT when it reappears, whatever.

I won't be there. And judging from the responses in this thread, I'm not the only one who feels that way.

[Voyager]

I agree with a lot of other people on here. Jeremey has a very powerful, versatile voice. We originally heard these songs done by a powerful singer. His voice just seems to fit the way the music was originally written. That's what I would like to hear in the future.

This is a very good example...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INEio5ky ... er&search=

Okay I'm sold. He does have a very strong voice, and on this clip he sounds more like Perry than anyone else I've ever heard cover a Perry song. But he was having some struggles right before the lead solo and his voice cracked pretty bad. I don't think anyone is going to tour with the Journey shredding machine and not come off tour with their vocal cords unshredded.

Hugo has the look, but Jeremey has the pipes.

Listen to this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDKTrPhhLQ

Would I pay to go see Journey with Jeremey singing? That depends on who the headlining act is.

[Rick]

If Hugo 'sucks' at singing Journey, that would make Jeremey beyond atrocious.

Of course, Hugo not only doesn't suck, he's fucking awesome singing both Journey and his own stuff. Hundreds of comments on youtube from people who are not hardcore music messageboard posters like we are attest to that 'fact,' as you like to put it.

Hugo is simply more like Perry than Jeremey, despite Jeremey having a more powerful voice. And he looks the part a zillion times more than Jeremey. He'd be far better for Journey than Jeremey.

All of this 'Hugo is so much like Perry it's creepy' is a crock of shit, regardless of whether Schon himself said it.

If you want a Perry clone, Hugo is the best choice in the world. Period.

If you wanted to go in a new direction, and have a world class singer who didn't sound exactly like Perry but still did justice to the catalog, JSS was the man.

And he still should be, rendering this entire debate moot.

Don't worry, Jeremey's Mom Forever - your man has by all accounts gotten the gig.

You can go front row, post on BT when it reappears, whatever.

I won't be there. And judging from the responses in this thread, I'm not the only one who feels that way.

You know this is a Jeremey friendly board and you come in here and say that. And if you know that Jeremey has all but gotten the gig, what's your purpose here? If Hugo was better for Journey, they would have hired him. Why hire a singer that does an impersonation? That's not what the fans want. They want a good frontman. That's where Jeremey fits the bill. Hugo should be doing the Legends shows on a cruise boat.

[Escape Artist]

Hugo? Is he even in the running?
Journey looked at Hugo for the gig in '97, they decided he looked too much like Perry and it creeped them out.
They are not gonna go back and change their minds now...

[conversationpc]

You know this is a Jeremey friendly board and you come in here and say that. And if you know that Jeremey has all but gotten the gig, what's your purpose here? If Hugo was better for Journey, they would have hired him. Why hire a singer that does an impersonation? That's not what the fans want. They want a good frontman. That's where Jeremey fits the bill. Hugo should be doing the Legends shows on a cruise boat.

I agree that Hugo is not the man for the job but can you really be serious about that statement? Have you been paying attention to the bad decisions this band has been making for the last several years now?

[Aaron]

Here is a link to one try searching Ebay which rounded up 3 of Hugo's 5 CDs.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQcategory0ZQ ... +valentine

Yep, it's impossible to find his stuff.

The solo stuff, Valentine, openskyz, etc. are simply impossible to find, ...