New Frontiers Clip

[swataz]

I can't access youtube at work, it's blocked... so until I can, what song was performed that everyone is having an O over?

[Nunnayerbiz Ness]

I'm sorry & i'll probably get flamed here, but I just don't hear it. I think Jeremey is a great singer but something about his approach here, 1st of all doesn't sound like Perry to me (which is a compliment, it should sound like him instead of an impersonator) at all aside of singing the melodies.

There is a 'pinch' that occurs in the back of his throat when he hits the high notes, that's more similar to Geoff Tate of Queensryche & other metal singers who sing from the back of their throats to get high notes. It changes the vowel sounds dramatically which makes it not sound so Journey anymore. Perry had a special way of anunciating his words & changing this is where you truly know SA sounded nothing like SP. The 'white soul' SP had on all his songs is also missing, JSS I think was the closest to bringing that soul back to the songs even though he didn't sound like SP.

As well, he is quite pitchy on this one, especially the high notes. I know it's live & no one is perfect, well Perry was rarely ever pitchy but they were his songs! This song in particular gets up there but unless you can hear yourself properly in the mix, I can understand pitch problems can occur.

Again, props to JH, he sings better than any of us here :) but this performance on this song is mediocre at best.

[Perrylover]

I'm sorry & i'll probably get flamed here, but I just don't hear it. I think Jeremey is a great singer but something about his approach here, 1st of all doesn't sound like Perry to me (which is a compliment, it should sound like him instead of an impersonator) at all aside of singing the melodies.

There is a 'pinch' that occurs in the back of his throat when he hits the high notes, that's more similar to Geoff Tate of Queensryche & other metal singers who sing from the back of their throats to get high notes. It changes the vowel sounds dramatically which makes it not sound so Journey anymore. Perry had a special way of anunciating his words & changing this is where you truly know SA sounded nothing like SP. The 'white soul' SP had on all his songs is also missing, JSS I think was the closest to bringing that soul back to the songs even though he didn't sound like SP.

As well, he is quite pitchy on this one, especially the high notes. I know it's live & no one is perfect, well Perry was rarely ever pitchy but they were his songs! This song in particular gets up there but unless you can hear yourself properly in the mix, I can understand pitch problems can occur.

Again, props to JH, he sings better than any of us here but this performance on this song is mediocre at best.

No flaming from here, everyone has a right to their own opinion. I do know, that this song was done at the end of the night (an almost 3 hour show) and Jeremey was having a little trouble all evening hearing himself in the mix. That makes him have to try harder and strain more to get where he's trying to be. I have heard him sing this song many times, and while I have a very very limited knowledge of technicalities, I do now that he sounds really good 95% of the time to me. Not trying to make excuses for him, lord knows he doesn't need any, but the smoke in some of the smaller clubs like this makes it very difficult just being a patron, let alone trying to perform.

Deb

[swataz]

WHAT SONG?????

[Socratic Methodist]

WHAT SONG?????

WCTNGOF

[swataz]

Wow...that is a tough one to tackle, expecially the end portion.

I'll take my critical ear to youtube later.

Thank you, BTW for answering. Sorry to pull the all caps, but I think my question was going to get lost in a flame war.

[Liquid_Drummer]

Jeremy has lost a few pounds hasnt he ? Hmmm...... I know I could care less about that shit but you know how a band like Journey is going to make image a big deciding factor. If he starts getting all buffed out and shit I think we will then know whats going on...

[Perrylover]

Jeremy has lost a few pounds hasnt he ? Hmmm...... I know I could care less about that shit but you know how a band like Journey is going to make image a big deciding factor. If he starts getting all buffed out and shit I think we will then know whats going on...

Yeah, he's lost quite a bit, he is losing mainly because it really helps his asthma as well as his singing.

Deb

[ohsherrie]

I just read through this thread. I hadn't been back to it since my first post. What bullshit.

For at least the last three years, and maybe before that, there have been almost weekly notices, udates and reviews of Frontiers shows and occasionally audio and video clips from them. There have also always been occasional such threads about other tribute bands and that was all good, but Jeremey has always been the overwhelming favorite here on this board.

Now though, because Journey has shown interest in Jeremey it's no long acceptable to talk about Frontiers here? Now we're sucking up or "hero worshiping"?

I fail to understand how the rotten way Journey treated Jeff has anything to do with how we feel about Frontiers and Jeremey. Those of us who are fans of them and are still supporting them aren't the ones who've changed. Hell yes Jeremey is our friend. So now we're supposed to stop being his friend because Journey mistreated Jeff?

The people who have been here all along and are now down on Jeremey because of Jeff are the ones who've changed. The new ones who weren't here before what happened with Jeff don't know enough about the history of the relationships on this board to be running their mouths.

[Blueskies]

I just read through this thread. I hadn't been back to it since my first post. What bullshit.

For at least the last three years, and maybe before that, there have been almost weekly notices, udates and reviews of Frontiers shows and occasionally audio and video clips from them. There have also always been occasional such threads about other tribute bands and that was all good, but Jeremey has always been the overwhelming favorite here on this board.

Now though, because Journey has shown interest in Jeremey it's no long acceptable to talk about Frontiers here? Now we're sucking up or "hero worshiping"?

I fail to understand how the rotten way Journey treated Jeff has anything to do with how we feel about Frontiers and Jeremey. Those of us who are fans of them and are still supporting them aren't the ones who've changed. Hell yes Jeremey is our friend. So now we're supposed to stop being his friend because Journey mistreated Jeff?

The people who have been here all along and are now down on Jeremey because of Jeff are the ones who've changed. The new ones who weren't here before what happened with Jeff don't know enough about the history of the relationships on this board to be running their mouths.

well said, Sherrie!

[Red13JoePa]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sized ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

[NealIsGod]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sised ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[conversationpc]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sised ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

They should play "Be Good to Yourself", "Girl Can't Help It", and "Why Can't This Night Go on Forever", and POSSIBLY "Suzanne".

[conversationpc]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sised ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

I apologize for JoePa...I'll also call 911.

[BobbyinTN]

I'm sorry & i'll probably get flamed here, but I just don't hear it. I think Jeremey is a great singer but something about his approach here, 1st of all doesn't sound like Perry to me (which is a compliment, it should sound like him instead of an impersonator) at all aside of singing the melodies.

There is a 'pinch' that occurs in the back of his throat when he hits the high notes, that's more similar to Geoff Tate of Queensryche & other metal singers who sing from the back of their throats to get high notes. It changes the vowel sounds dramatically which makes it not sound so Journey anymore. Perry had a special way of anunciating his words & changing this is where you truly know SA sounded nothing like SP. The 'white soul' SP had on all his songs is also missing, JSS I think was the closest to bringing that soul back to the songs even though he didn't sound like SP.

As well, he is quite pitchy on this one, especially the high notes. I know it's live & no one is perfect, well Perry was rarely ever pitchy but they were his songs! This song in particular gets up there but unless you can hear yourself properly in the mix, I can understand pitch problems can occur.

Again, props to JH, he sings better than any of us here but this performance on this song is mediocre at best.

I hear what you're talking about in his voice. It's almost something in between head voice and throat but comes across sounding a little gargle-y/nasally. I don't think it sounds bad at all, and I've noticed Steve Perry did it in the earlier days, and I think Jeremy just refined it a little.

I'm a singer and sing pretty high, but have my own little things I do to get those high notes, without damaging anything, (I hope).

I think Jeremey would make a great replacement, but I like his sound on his originals more than I do his Journey covers.

[donnaplease]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sised ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

They should play "Be Good to Yourself", "Girl Can't Help It", and "Why Can't This Night Go on Forever", and POSSIBLY "Suzanne".

I believe he did all those songs on Saturday night. He definitely did BGTY and Suzanne (I can't remember for sure about GCHI). I may have some of those clips as well if anyone is interested.

[JH'sTXfan]

Hunsicker kicks big beefolo sised ASS on the ROR material. IF JSS remains out, and J remains IN, praps he can prevail upon Schon/Cain to work up ever song from that record (but WCTNGOF? and the daft title track).

They should play "Be Good to Yourself", "Girl Can't Help It", and "Why Can't This Night Go on Forever", and POSSIBLY "Suzanne".

I believe he did all those songs on Saturday night. He definitely did BGTY and Suzanne (I can't remember for sure about GCHI). I may have some of those clips as well if anyone is interested.

I'm interested in seeing Jeremey kick some more "big beefolo sised ASS". (Loved that one Red) Thank you Donna.

[treetopovskaya]

donna please wrote:


I didn't jump shit. I have been a Frontiers fan almost as long as I have been a JSS fan. I have seen as many Frontiers shows as I have seen Journey shows. This is not a Jeremey vs. Jeff thread. I have never compared the two, nor will I ever. I, as well as many others, see the situation with Jeremey and the situation with Jeff as two completely separate issues. Jeff is gone from Journey. No matter how sad, and how pissed, and how completely baffled by the whole thing we are, it's not gonna turn back the clock. Now Jeremey has an opportunity to live out his dream. He has always been very nice to me, much the same as Jeff has been. It's funny to me that the people that are making comments like 'jump bandwagon', etc. are the ones that expect those of us who happen to be friends with Jeremey to just drop him like a hot potato simply because Jeff got royally screwed. Sorry, I don't play that way. Jeff knows that I only want the BEST for him, and it's THAT opinion that matters. Whatever happens, these are 2 incredibly talented men in their own rights.

You are right about one thing. You usually ARE a nice person. Not sure what bug crawled up your ass tonight (although I probably have an idea), but you might wanna try to pull it outta there.

p.s. From what I understand, Jeremey knows perfectly well how to communicate with n&j.

what i meant or should have said was it seems some have switched gears so quickly. just a couple months ago people were raving about jss & looking forward to a new journey cd & tour. now people can't wait for journey to make it official & hire a new singer (jeremey?). so it's like jumping from one bandwagon to the other... when it comes to supporting j's latest singer. it's sad that people can be replaced so easily. i can't support journey... they are first class asshole. i wouldn't even care if steve perry came back. i'm done. even though my hubby says "yeah right" to that. }:CP it's the truth though. i'm done. i can't even listen to any of my j cds because it makes me ill. so for those who have stated (just a month or so ago) that you as well are done & have voiced your dislike for what is now journey... if jeremey is hired how are you going to enjoy going to shows? i just don't get it. so it's his dream to sing with his favorite band... even though the world knows what shitheads they are? why would he even want to be in the same room as these jerks?

p.s

the bug that crawled up my butt was you asking neal & co too hurry up & make it official. OUCH!! }:C\ plus i don't think certain people are as innocent as they claim to be. they probably knew jss was out before jss did. all this happened WAY too fast. i could be totally wrong so i'll zip it... just a gut feeling though.

i bet jss thought he knew how to communicate with neal & jon too. }:C|

[ArnelRox]

FWIW I agree w/Treetop on most points here. I'm barely able to listen to my old songs. I don't blame Jeremey for pursuing this gig. But it's a bit too soon & feelings are still too sensitive for me to read a message asking Friga & Fro to get on w/the show & hire him. Can the body get cold in the grave first please?

what i meant or should have said was it seems some have switched gears so quickly. just a couple months ago people were raving about jss & looking forward to a new journey cd & tour. now people can't wait for journey to make it official & hire a new singer (jeremey?). so it's like jumping from one bandwagon to the other... when it comes to supporting j's latest singer. it's sad that people can be replaced so easily. i can't support journey... they are first class asshole. i wouldn't even care if steve perry came back. i'm done. even though my hubby says "yeah right" to that. }:CP it's the truth though. i'm done. i can't even listen to any of my j cds because it makes me ill. so for those who have stated (just a month or so ago) that you as well are done & have voiced your dislike for what is now journey... if jeremey is hired how are you going to enjoy going to shows? i just don't get it. so it's his dream to sing with his favorite band... even though the world knows what shitheads they are? why would he even want to be in the same room as these jerks?

p.s

the bug that crawled up my butt was you asking neal & co too hurry up & make it official. OUCH!! }:C\ plus i don't think certain people are as innocent as they claim to be. they probably knew jss was out before jss did. all this happened WAY too fast. i could be totally wrong so i'll zip it... just a gut feeling though.

i bet jss thought he knew how to communicate with neal & jon too. }:C|

[ohsherrie]

i could be totally wrong so i'll zip it...

Sounds like a plan to me.

[perryfaithful]

Thanks for sharing the clip DP! Love that song and seeing Jeremy perform it was quite pleasing to this HUGE Perry fan! No problem, hope I can see Jeremy perform live one of these days, wherever, whoever........

[treetopovskaya]

jr wrote:


But it's a bit too soon & feelings are still too sensitive for me to read a message asking Friga & Fro to get on w/the show & hire him. Can the body get cold in the grave first please?


THAT'S IT!!!!! thanks susie! that's what made me "snap"! }:C)

[RedWingFan]

what i meant or should have said was it seems some have switched gears so quickly. just a couple months ago people were raving about jss & looking forward to a new journey cd & tour.

So donna is still looking forward to a new journey cd & tour regardless who's singing. You are not. You could have been criticized for the same thing after Jeff filled in for Augeri. What's the difference?

it's sad that people can be replaced so easily.

People here in Michigan are routinely replaced with robots.

i can't support journey... they are first class asshole. i wouldn't even care if steve perry came back. i'm done. even though my hubby says "yeah right" to that. }:CP it's the truth though. i'm done. i can't even listen to any of my j cds because it makes me ill. so for those who have stated (just a month or so ago) that you as well are done & have voiced your dislike for what is now journey

Great, I'm happy for you. You have every right to be hurt and wash your hands and feet of the band, but why try to convince others to join you?

if jeremey is hired how are you going to enjoy going to shows? i just don't get it.

They're gonna play the same songs, and the crown will sing along like they have for years. Again, what's the difference?

so it's his dream to sing with his favorite band... even though the world knows what shitheads they are? why would he even want to be in the same room as these jerks?

Ask Jeff. I believe he was asked if he knew then what he knows now would he still joined the band? I believe he said YES!!!

the bug that crawled up my butt was you asking neal & co too hurry up & make it official. OUCH!!

Good luck with that bug Just remember, it's just a band. Nothing worth getting worked up over. Look on the bright side. Hockey season is only a couple of months away!!!! I still hate Pronger and the Mighty Ducks!!!!

[treetopovskaya]

funny. not to long ago you were saying you were done too. what will happen if jeremey is given the gig? when you go to shows you'll be supporting them a-holes as well.

don't get mad at me... just getting stuff off my chest. }:C))

i could be totally wrong so i'll zip it...

Sounds like a plan to me.

[treetopovskaya]

raider...

the difference is they didn't even talk to jss... no phone call... no email... not even a 'dear jeff' note. if i remember correctly jeff was sent a text message. wtf?

robots? HAHAHAA! that was funny! }=C))

p.s. you're a raiders fan so what do you know? they still in oakland? }:CPP

[RedWingFan]

raider...

the difference is they didn't even talk to jss... no phone call... no email... not even a 'dear jeff' note. if i remember correctly jeff was sent a text message. wtf?

Understood. But he did say he'd do it all over again!

robots? HAHAHAA! that was funny! }=C))

You wouldn't think so if it were you who were replaced.

p.s. you're a raiders fan so what do you know? they still in oakland? }:CPP

That's what they tell me. I've only been to Cali once and that was at LAX for a connecting flight to Hawaii...ah the memories

[ohsherrie]

funny. not to long ago you were saying you were done too. what will happen if jeremey is given the gig? when you go to shows you'll be supporting them a-holes as well.

don't get mad at me... just getting stuff off my chest. }:C))

i could be totally wrong so i'll zip it...

Sounds like a plan to me.

I doubt that I could ever again be as totally pissed at Journey as I was when they replaced Perry with Augeri. I never liked Augeri singing the songs, but I never stopped loving the music and the Journey that made me a fan.

I have no problem with Jeremey fronting Journey if he should be lucky enough to do so. In fact, I'm looking forward to it. I loved Jeff fronting the band and I will always be a fan of his no matter what he does. I'm thankful for the opportunity to get to know a new, incredible talent that I probably wouldn't have known about otherwise. But if I stayed with the band after what they did to Perry I don't see why I would leave now.

I don't see why somebody who can't even listen to the music anymore would care who fronts the band.

[Perrydise]

I love that song. I just did it at karaoke Friday night.

Wow that must have took guts to do

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I'm sorry & i'll probably get flamed here, but I just don't hear it. I think Jeremey is a great singer but something about his approach here, 1st of all doesn't sound like Perry to me (which is a compliment, it should sound like him instead of an impersonator) at all aside of singing the melodies.

There is a 'pinch' that occurs in the back of his throat when he hits the high notes, that's more similar to Geoff Tate of Queensryche & other metal singers who sing from the back of their throats to get high notes. It changes the vowel sounds dramatically which makes it not sound so Journey anymore. Perry had a special way of anunciating his words & changing this is where you truly know SA sounded nothing like SP. The 'white soul' SP had on all his songs is also missing, JSS I think was the closest to bringing that soul back to the songs even though he didn't sound like SP.

As well, he is quite pitchy on this one, especially the high notes. I know it's live & no one is perfect, well Perry was rarely ever pitchy but they were his songs! This song in particular gets up there but unless you can hear yourself properly in the mix, I can understand pitch problems can occur.

Again, props to JH, he sings better than any of us here but this performance on this song is mediocre at best.

I have to agree with this 100%.

SP used the "pinch" on occasion. I forget the technical term for it. It's used a lot by blues singers. For my ear Jeremey's "pinch" reminds me of how Jim Nabors spoke in his Gomer Pyle character. Of course, Jim Nabors was an accomplished singer in his own right and new how to do some crazy things with his voice.

SP's pinch annoys me at times, too. He tends to use it more on the bluesier songs.

[ArnelRox]

I doubt that I could ever again be as totally pissed at Journey as I was when they replaced Perry with Augeri. I never liked Augeri singing the songs, but I never stopped loving the music and the Journey that made me a fan.

I have no problem with Jeremey fronting Journey if he should be lucky enough to do so. In fact, I'm looking forward to it. I loved Jeff fronting the band and I will always be a fan of his no matter what he does. I'm thankful for the opportunity to get to know a new, incredible talent that I probably wouldn't have known about otherwise. But if I stayed with the band after what they did to Perry I don't see why I would leave now.

I don't see why somebody who can't even listen to the music anymore would care who fronts the band.

Let's just get a few things out in the open Sherrie. Last month I asked u specifically how u felt & u said u were done w/Journey. U might go to see a show w/Jeremey if it was close to u but u really weren't sure. Ok u changed ur mind since then, that's fine. But please remember it takes some of us longer than others to get over things & we may never get over this. Some of us still feel the way u did a month ago. Remember, it took u ALL of Augeri's time w/the band to come back to "staying" w/the band. U claim now u "stayed" w/them but u really didn't, did u? Let's take a look.

How many shows exactly did u see w/Augeri fronting the band? I believe NONE is the answer. Am I wrong?

Did u buy Arrival, Red13 or Generations?

Did u buy any merchandise such as t-shirts, hats, etc. while Augeri was fronting the band?

Did u call radio stations & ask them to play new Journey music w/Augeri as lead singer?

I know how many shows u went to when Jeff was fronting the band: 1.

Wow, u really "stayed with" the band during all those years didn't u? Oh that's right. I forgot. You posted on boards expressing ur displeasure w/Augeri & telling everyone how much he sucked. He was the lead singer of the band during those years, wasn't he? Yeah, u did a LOT for this band.

(Don't even come back to say I did the same. I went to 7 concerts where Augeri fronted the band & bought expensive 5 star tickets for another I didn't go to. I bought Arrival & Red13. I got Generations for free w/my concert tix. The first board I joined was this one AFTER Augeri left.)

Let's take this one step further to define how u are as a fan....

How many Journey concerts did u go to when Perry was fronting the band?

When Perry toured solo for FTLOSM, how many concerts did u go to? I know the answer: None.

Frontiers has been playing for about 5 years pretty much in the general vicinity where u live right? Ur a HUGE fan of Jeremey's & u say u have been for several years, right? Exactly how many Frontiers shows have u been to? I believe the answer is 1, right?

If I'm right on even most of this, then having u as a fan really puts money into a band's pocket, huh? Is that called "staying with" a band?