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Jason or Arnel?????

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Postby Greg » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:32 pm

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STORY_TELLER wrote:Yeah, it's too bad his religious beliefs are making him waste his talent. Such a shame.


Same thing happened to John Schlitt. He did end up singing for Petra (a Christian band), but he could have been as big as Steve Perry if he wouldn't have done the whole religious thing. Once they go that route they usually don't come back.

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I'm sure if you asked Jason if he is happy doing what he's doing, whatever that is, he'd tell you that he is. If that's the case, then he's not wasting his talent.

As for John Schlitt, if you listen to his whole catalogue with Petra, you'd realize nothing was wasted at all. The stuff he did with them from 1986 through 1997 was excellent. They definitely had their share of "success" as they were the biggest selling band in the genre for several years running and I'm sure Schlitt would tell you that God's plan for him was better than his own plan.


Well posted. :wink:
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Postby StoneCold » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:59 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:A waste because from what he told me he no longer sings at all. There are a handfull of people in the entire world that can sing like that. As long as he is happy thats all that matters. It is his life..


His speaking voice was also much like SP from the early days.

Do you have a picture of JK you can post from that time period?
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:11 pm

Here is a pic of the original line up. (Do I have to tell you which one is Jason ?) Sure wonder what happened to that drummer because he was bad ass ! The drummer on this pic is not the same guy as on the recordings. This guy made it feel way more like Smith and had that special touch in his playing that made the whole thing even more authentic.

Here is the pic and I think its from like 94-95, (Jason on far right)
http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/Graphics/article.jpg


and here is the only quality recording of them I have heard just in case a few of yo have not heard it...

http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/LovinYou.mp3
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:55 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Here is a pic of the original line up. (Do I have to tell you which one is Jason ?) Sure wonder what happened to that drummer because he was bad ass ! The drummer on this pic is not the same guy as on the recordings. This guy made it feel way more like Smith and had that special touch in his playing that made the whole thing even more authentic.

Here is the pic and I think its from like 94-95, (Jason on far right)
http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/Graphics/article.jpg


and here is the only quality recording of them I have heard just in case a few of yo have not heard it...

http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/LovinYou.mp3


If you don't call that the best replacement for the band, I don't what you think is. I just wish Jason would.....I was actually in contact with him at the Journey show in 2001 and the one before that in Pittsburgh. I wish I still had his e-mail adress...Journey needs him!!!!!

Jason, God and the millions, :shock: I mean thousands, :? I mean last few hundred 8) of Journey fans NEED you before Arnel is given it!!!!! :shock:

I don't think if you did a test and played one after the other, 99.9999% of the fans could tell who; who is. Perry and Jason that is. His recordings are SCARY, SCARY close to the great one...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:58 am

I just the picture...He has the tails and red Nike's on....AWESOME!!!!


JASON!!!!!!!! PLEASE COME BACK!!!!!!!

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Postby STORY_TELLER » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:54 am

conversationpc wrote:I'm sure if you asked Jason if he is happy doing what he's doing, whatever that is, he'd tell you that he is. If that's the case, then he's not wasting his talent.



Talent isn't learned. It's not a skill. It's something you're either born with or not. There are different degrees of talent, but talent at this level is extremely high. He was born with an instrument that most are not. If you're not using your talent, then it's wasted on you. Being happy doing something else doesn't mean you haven't wasted your talent. It means you're happy doing something else, and that's fine. Doesn't mean you're not wasting your talent.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:39 am

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conversationpc wrote:I'm sure if you asked Jason if he is happy doing what he's doing, whatever that is, he'd tell you that he is. If that's the case, then he's not wasting his talent.



Talent isn't learned. It's not a skill. It's something you're either born with or not. There are different degrees of talent, but talent at this level is extremely high. He was born with an instrument that most are not. If you're not using your talent, then it's wasted on you. Being happy doing something else doesn't mean you haven't wasted your talent. It means you're happy doing something else, and that's fine. Doesn't mean you're not wasting your talent.


Very, very true.....I believe that Jason is not WASTING his takent if he is enjoying what he is doing, but I wish he could save Journey from making the biggest mistake of their lives......Well second or third.....They fucksed SA and JSS in royal fashion....

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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:43 am

Soto All The Way wrote: Very, very true.....I believe that Jason is not WASTING his takent if he is enjoying what he is doing, but I wish he could save Journey from making the biggest mistake of their lives......Well second or third.....They fucksed SA and JSS in royal fashion....

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It could also be the smartest thing they've done in years. Unfortunately u will probably miss that.
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Postby Rick » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:47 am

Soto All The Way wrote:
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conversationpc wrote:I'm sure if you asked Jason if he is happy doing what he's doing, whatever that is, he'd tell you that he is. If that's the case, then he's not wasting his talent.



Talent isn't learned. It's not a skill. It's something you're either born with or not. There are different degrees of talent, but talent at this level is extremely high. He was born with an instrument that most are not. If you're not using your talent, then it's wasted on you. Being happy doing something else doesn't mean you haven't wasted your talent. It means you're happy doing something else, and that's fine. Doesn't mean you're not wasting your talent.


Very, very true.....I believe that Jason is not WASTING his takent if he is enjoying what he is doing, but I wish he could save Journey from making the biggest mistake of their lives......Well second or third.....They fucksed SA and JSS in royal fashion....

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That would be hard for him to do. Leave Christian music and the whole religious atmosphere behind to jump into the den of iniquity with Frig and Fro.
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:06 am

Rick wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:
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conversationpc wrote:I'm sure if you asked Jason if he is happy doing what he's doing, whatever that is, he'd tell you that he is. If that's the case, then he's not wasting his talent.



Talent isn't learned. It's not a skill. It's something you're either born with or not. There are different degrees of talent, but talent at this level is extremely high. He was born with an instrument that most are not. If you're not using your talent, then it's wasted on you. Being happy doing something else doesn't mean you haven't wasted your talent. It means you're happy doing something else, and that's fine. Doesn't mean you're not wasting your talent.


Very, very true.....I believe that Jason is not WASTING his takent if he is enjoying what he is doing, but I wish he could save Journey from making the biggest mistake of their lives......Well second or third.....They fucksed SA and JSS in royal fashion....

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That would be hard for him to do. Leave Christian music and the whole religious atmosphere behind to jump into the den of iniquity with Frig and Fro.


I thought he quit music completely. Maybe I misread something posted here months ago.

Something about him just doing a computer business. "Escape computers" or along those lines.

Too bad Lincoln Brewster didn't recruit him and form a Christian version of Journey. Could've been some good music.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:16 am

StoneCold wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Brewster

I just can't see Lincoln doing the preacher thing....It's just not him....He was so young on FTLOSM Tour and so timid.....He was really filling some big shoes for Steve and I think he did quite well.....With everything going on and all.....

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Postby Rick » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:17 am

StoneCold wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Brewster


He did some great renditions of Neal during the FTLOSM tour. He's a good guitar player.

As far as Kelty, I have no idea. I had just heard that he's into Christian music and won't play any other.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:21 am

ArnelRox wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote: Very, very true.....I believe that Jason is not WASTING his takent if he is enjoying what he is doing, but I wish he could save Journey from making the biggest mistake of their lives......Well second or third.....They fucksed SA and JSS in royal fashion....

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It could also be the smartest thing they've done in years. Unfortunately u will probably miss that.


Why do you have to constantly follow me and my posts. Why don't you go fuck yourself and leave my posts alone.....I've said my piece....Arnel is THE BIGGEST, I REPEAT BIGGEST mistake Neal and Jon have EVER made.......He will be a one tour, if not a half tour participant......Mark my words.....He will flop and flop hard!!!!! Journey will never survive with this flat, broken english ugly dude......


Now back to Jason.....How can we get a hold of him. We need to get him back and see what a mistake Journey is making......Jer, do you still have his e-mail? RVR? I know we all had his e-mail at one time, I must have deleted it......

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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:44 am

Soto All The Way wrote:Why do you have to constantly follow me and my posts.


Back away from the crack pipe dude. U bore me.

Soto All The Way wrote:I've said my piece....Arnel is THE BIGGEST, I REPEAT BIGGEST mistake Neal and Jon have EVER made.......He will be a one tour, if not a half tour participant......Mark my words.....He will flop and flop hard!!!!! Journey will never survive with this flat, broken english ugly dude......


Oh I get it, ur allowed to say this over & over & over again but I can't say my piece? When did u start making the rules around here?

Since u like repeating urself so much, I'll repeat myself & annoy u again:

Arnel doesnt sing flat, his English isnt broken & he sure as hell aint ugly.

Any more insults or cuss words u would like to throw my way?
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 am

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StoneCold wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Brewster


He did some great renditions of Neal during the FTLOSM tour. He's a good guitar player.

As far as Kelty, I have no idea. I had just heard that he's into Christian music and won't play any other.


If Kelty's still singing, there's still hope. It's not like Journey's lyrics are bad. It's not AC/DC or Buckcherry!

Kelty is so dead on vocals of Perry he makes all the others pale. I'm really surprised they didn't pick him up in the past. They probably tried though. I'd love to hear anything else he's done.

I've always hoped Perry recorded a ton of stuff that wasn't released when his voice was in its prime. A voice like theirs is so rare that to have it and not use it is definitely a waste IMO.

You can be happy with life and all but that voice won't last forever. Sing what you want but get it on tape so others can enjoy it.

Jason, if you see this, we'd love to hear you sing! With or without Journey!
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:34 am

Word is that Kelty is not still singing. He quit singing altogether for religious reasons. This is why I said he's wasting his talent and his talent is wasted on him.
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Postby nolippin » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:41 am

Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:52 am

nolippin wrote:Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.


As u know, I'm living well w/it! It's funny how we get to thinking Journey is our very own American Idol tho.

Who would u have voted for if u had a choice between all these folks?
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:02 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
nolippin wrote:Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.


As u know, I'm living well w/it! It's funny how we get to thinking Journey is our very own American Idol tho.

Who would u have voted for if u had a choice between all these folks?


That part of the debate was ended at the top of the thread. The discussion has long since turned to Jason Kelty's singing career (or lack thereof) sans Journey.
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Postby nolippin » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:07 pm

There wasn't any debate to be had in the first place. One man doesn't want a singing career anymore and the other already has the job. End of discussion. :?



STORY_TELLER wrote:
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nolippin wrote:Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.


As u know, I'm living well w/it! It's funny how we get to thinking Journey is our very own American Idol tho.

Who would u have voted for if u had a choice between all these folks?


That part of the debate was ended at the top of the thread. The discussion has long since turned to Jason Kelty's singing career (or lack thereof) sans Journey.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:13 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:Why do you have to constantly follow me and my posts.


Back away from the crack pipe dude. U bore me.

Soto All The Way wrote:I've said my piece....Arnel is THE BIGGEST, I REPEAT BIGGEST mistake Neal and Jon have EVER made.......He will be a one tour, if not a half tour participant......Mark my words.....He will flop and flop hard!!!!! Journey will never survive with this flat, broken english ugly dude......


Oh I get it, ur allowed to say this over & over & over again but I can't say my piece? When did u start making the rules around here?

Since u like repeating urself so much, I'll repeat myself & annoy u again:

Arnel doesnt sing flat, his English isnt broken & he sure as hell aint ugly.

Any more insults or cuss words u would like to throw my way?


Sure, no problemo....I think you and your jamming ArNOT down our throats fucking sucks and you are a fucking idiot. We've been laughing about you for days over at the Annex and vote is your are pretty much a fucking dumbshit with little or no fucking brains or musical intelligence. Especialy since your are in full support of Journey's last choice on a short list of tribute singers.....He's a dud. He's NOT their first choice and that's what makes me smile everyday. They couldn't even get who they wanted. SO lets settle for this dud. He will not make a full tour. Gaurenteed....When Neal starts to not understand what the fuck he is saying, it's back to the 3rd world living for ArNOT.

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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:15 pm

nolippin wrote:There wasn't any debate to be had in the first place. One man doesn't want a singing career anymore and the other already has the job. End of discussion. :?



STORY_TELLER wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
nolippin wrote:Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.


As u know, I'm living well w/it! It's funny how we get to thinking Journey is our very own American Idol tho.

Who would u have voted for if u had a choice between all these folks?


That part of the debate was ended at the top of the thread. The discussion has long since turned to Jason Kelty's singing career (or lack thereof) sans Journey.

Don't forget, this isn't their FIRST choice of lead singers either. That's the grrrrreat part. Friga and Fro had t settle for last choice.....

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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:18 pm

So ur saying I made it onto the Annex's hit list again? Arent u supposed to keep what's said there confidential? Did Ed change the rules since I got banned for the 2nd time (which was never for taking info from there out btw)?

No they couldnt get who they wanted: Perry.

Soto All The Way wrote:Sure, no problemo....I think you and your jamming ArNOT down our throats fucking sucks and you are a fucking idiot. We've been laughing about you for days over at the Annex and vote is your are pretty much a fucking dumbshit with little or no fucking brains or musical intelligence. Especialy since your are in full support of Journey's last choice on a short list of tribute singers.....He's a dud. He's NOT their first choice and that's what makes me smile everyday. They couldn't even get who they wanted. SO lets settle for this dud. He will not make a full tour. Gaurenteed....When Neal starts to not understand what the fuck he is saying, it's back to the 3rd world living for ArNOT.

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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:18 pm

He IS flat, He IS Ugly and I can't understand a fucking word he says on YOUTUBE.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Him jumping around like DLR on JUmp made me cringe.....That was aweful.....Please, I hope he doesn't try anything that Perry, SA or JSS tried in stage. For that matter, I hope Friga and Fro realize they fucked up and let him go and find another one before the corporate gig.

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Postby nolippin » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:18 pm

So what??? The end result is still the same.


Soto All The Way wrote:
nolippin wrote:There wasn't any debate to be had in the first place. One man doesn't want a singing career anymore and the other already has the job. End of discussion. :?



STORY_TELLER wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
nolippin wrote:Why can't people understand that we don't get a vote in the Journey lead singer saga? They've made their choice. It isn't Kelty, JSS, or Jeremey. It's Arnel Pineda. Live with it.


As u know, I'm living well w/it! It's funny how we get to thinking Journey is our very own American Idol tho.

Who would u have voted for if u had a choice between all these folks?


That part of the debate was ended at the top of the thread. The discussion has long since turned to Jason Kelty's singing career (or lack thereof) sans Journey.

Don't forget, this isn't their FIRST choice of lead singers either. That's the grrrrreat part. Friga and Fro had t settle for last choice.....

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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:21 pm

Soto All The Way wrote:He IS flat, He IS Ugly and I can't understand a fucking word he says on YOUTUBE.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Him jumping around like DLR on JUmp made me cringe.....That was aweful.....Please, I hope he doesn't try anything that Perry, SA or JSS tried in stage. For that matter, I hope Friga and Fro realize they fucked up and let him go and find another one before the corporate gig.

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Ur right it was full of AWE! Learn to spell before u make urself look like an idiot again.

Read this: if u cant understand him, it's b/c u are DEAF or his English & intelligence level is too far above urs.
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Postby Soto All The Way » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:42 pm

ArnelRox wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:He IS flat, He IS Ugly and I can't understand a fucking word he says on YOUTUBE.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Him jumping around like DLR on JUmp made me cringe.....That was aweful.....Please, I hope he doesn't try anything that Perry, SA or JSS tried in stage. For that matter, I hope Friga and Fro realize they fucked up and let him go and find another one before the corporate gig.

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Ur right it was full of AWE! Learn to spell before u make urself look like an idiot again.

Read this: if u cant understand him, it's b/c u are DEAF or his English & intelligence level is too far above urs.


U know what, you over opinionated c()nt....This is not a spelling forum....Drop it with my spelling. I type fast and usually between downs in the games.....I could care less about my spelling asshole.....Take it to Arnel's new forum and rant and rave there bitch. So basically, go fuck yourself and your spelling lessons C()UNT!!!! Breaks over.... Bye asshole...

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Postby nolippin » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:56 pm

Dude, you're just out of line. First you go off all over Laura now Suzy. How about not posting anymore until you sober up.



Soto All The Way wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:He IS flat, He IS Ugly and I can't understand a fucking word he says on YOUTUBE.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Him jumping around like DLR on JUmp made me cringe.....That was aweful.....Please, I hope he doesn't try anything that Perry, SA or JSS tried in stage. For that matter, I hope Friga and Fro realize they fucked up and let him go and find another one before the corporate gig.

e-


Ur right it was full of AWE! Learn to spell before u make urself look like an idiot again.

Read this: if u cant understand him, it's b/c u are DEAF or his English & intelligence level is too far above urs.


U know what, you over opinionated c()nt....This is not a spelling forum....Drop it with my spelling. I type fast and usually between downs in the games.....I could care less about my spelling asshole.....Take it to Arnel's new forum and rant and rave there bitch. So basically, go fuck yourself and your spelling lessons C()UNT!!!! Breaks over.... Bye asshole...

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Postby Andrew » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:03 pm

Soto All The Way wrote:
ArnelRox wrote:
Soto All The Way wrote:He IS flat, He IS Ugly and I can't understand a fucking word he says on YOUTUBE.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Him jumping around like DLR on JUmp made me cringe.....That was aweful.....Please, I hope he doesn't try anything that Perry, SA or JSS tried in stage. For that matter, I hope Friga and Fro realize they fucked up and let him go and find another one before the corporate gig.

e-


Ur right it was full of AWE! Learn to spell before u make urself look like an idiot again.

Read this: if u cant understand him, it's b/c u are DEAF or his English & intelligence level is too far above urs.


U know what, you over opinionated c()nt....This is not a spelling forum....Drop it with my spelling. I type fast and usually between downs in the games.....I could care less about my spelling asshole.....Take it to Arnel's new forum and rant and rave there bitch. So basically, go fuck yourself and your spelling lessons C()UNT!!!! Breaks over.... Bye asshole...

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Dude, this is your FINAL EVER WARNING.
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