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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:53 am

Eric wrote:
I think after the shit Deano took, he deserves to crow



Can you tell me what you are referring to here?
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Postby T-Bone » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:57 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Eric wrote:
I think after the shit Deano took, he deserves to crow



Can you tell me what you are referring to here?



He was peeking in your bathroom window... :lol:
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:30 am

Rockindeano wrote:I feel a HUGE dustup brewing here in this thread. I can sniff out these Augeriheads miles away. This OP is definitely one of them. I will never forget those assholes and what they called me during the apex of TG. Hey fools, I was right, proved right and still am right, so suck my ass.


I don't know who you are are what your claim to fame is; however, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Grow up and make an intelligent argument. And if you have something to say to me then do so without disparaging comments about what you preceive my motives to be. You know what they say about "assuming".
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:33 am

E5C4P3ING wrote:I don't know who you are are what your claim to fame is;


You will soon find out.
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Re: Kudos for Steve Augeri!

Postby ohsherrie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:37 am

Journey/Survivor wrote: sound like they could have been on the Frontiers album and fit right in with the rest of the album.


Uh uh.
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Postby chf34jmac » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:39 am

Oh brother - and just when Andrew had this place trucking along just like BT. In comes this asshole who wants to feel his/her oats and take on Dean. Three words for you dumbshit - BIG FUCKING MISTAKE! Duck back under your rock now and avoid the beating that is well underway. BTW welcome to MR :lol:
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:39 am

E5C4P3ING wrote: You know what they say about "assuming".


Do you know what they say aboutImage?
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Assuming

Postby journeywoman » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:39 am

UH-OH
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Postby annie89509 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:40 am

I've only been a Journey junkie for a few years, unlike so many here that have listened and followed them since the early years. In this age of info technology, I learned the entire Journey saga from origin to present during a 6-month span. Along with that knowledge, I acquired their entire catalogue of records and begged/borrowed/traded for all the boots/dvds I could get my hands on.

So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.

I'm not a technical person, people say the production in Generations is bad. I do think NS/RV/JC singing in songs was an obmonition, but I like SA in all the other songs. Beyond the Clouds moves me ... very Journeysque. And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:42 am

Rockindeano wrote:
E5C4P3ING wrote:I don't know who you are are what your claim to fame is;


You will soon find out.



Ding ding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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DING DING

Postby journeywoman » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:43 am

lET THE GAMES BEGIN
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Postby annie89509 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:49 am

no, let's keep on topic :) :?
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:49 am

annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.
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totally agree

Postby journeywoman » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:56 am

ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality. Yes Sherrie I totally agree I have been a Journey fan for as many years as you I like Arrival, but it is not Journey/Perry music.Comes close but it misses that big sound and nothing pulls at the heart as with the Perry era.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.
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Postby annie89509 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:57 am

ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.


No, Sherrie, Deen's not as good as Perry. I think he would be the first to admit he copies the Perryisms like no other, even more than SA does.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:03 pm

annie89509 wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.


No, Sherrie, Deen's not as good as Perry. I think he would be the first to admit he copies the Perryisms like no other, even more than SA does.


Deen is nowhere close to Perry or Soto, however....thank God for the band he could sing at all. You know how many times he bailed Augeri's ass out? For those of you who don't know for sure, Deen cannot go as high as JSS. JSS is a singer, Deeno is a drummer who can get by.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:04 pm

Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dipshit.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:05 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dipshit.



Opening jab is thrown. We're underway folks!!!!
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:08 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.


You have solidified one of my points. I too find Steve Augeri to be a talented singer and do appreciate his music; however, I did not say that he was or should ever try to be Steve Perry. In fact, I believe I said the Augeri era Journey would have fared better by NOT trying to be Journey at all, instead, they should have strived to be a unique band, making unique music, music which shouldn't be compared to Perry era Journey. Music that was and is good, but not necessarily great and that's ok....at least it is with me.
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Re: Kudos for Steve Augeri!

Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:09 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote: sound like they could have been on the Frontiers album and fit right in with the rest of the album.


Uh uh.


"Higher Place" and "The Place In Your Heart" scream out "Seperate Ways" "Chain Reaction" and even somewhat "Ask The Lonely."

And "Out Of Harms Way" is very similar to songs like "Troubled Child" and "Chain Reaction."

As soon as I first heard "Message Of Love" it was completely obvious that they were going for (and got) a strong resemblance to "Seperate Ways." It was the same thing with "Higher Place" strongly resembling "Seperate Ways" and "The Place In Your Heart" strongly resembling "Seperate Ways" and "Chain Reaction."

I do somewhat prefer Frontiers over Generations, and only Perry sang lead on Frontiers, whereas the whole band took turns on Generations. But in many ways, IMO, Generations is Frontiers-part-2.
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:12 pm

annie89509 wrote:
No, Sherrie, Deen's not as good as Perry. I think he would be the first to admit he copies the Perryisms like no other, even more than SA does.


He did admit it in Andrew's Journey interview. He said he learned to sing by trying to sound like Steve Perry. He sings very well and sounds good, but there is only one Perry. Younger singers emulating him is as natural as him emulating Sam Cooke, but Journey thinking they can sound the same with somebody emulating him is stupid.

If Frig and Fro don't utilize the individual talents, writing and vocal abilities, of the new singers they hire instead of trying to make them be Perry impersonators they're forever destined to live in the shadow of the man they want so badly to convince people that they don't need.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:16 pm

E5C4P3ING wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.


You have solidified one of my points. I too find Steve Augeri to be a talented singer and do appreciate his music; however, I did not say that he was or should ever try to be Steve Perry. In fact, I believe I said the Augeri era Journey would have fared better by NOT trying to be Journey at all, instead, they should have strived to be a unique band, making unique music, music which shouldn't be compared to Perry era Journey. Music that was and is good, but not necessarily great and that's ok....at least it is with me.


Hey E5c4p3ing, I mean this in a kind way, don't argue with them they will only gang up and try to bully you off of the site.
There's a cult on this site, and if they can't brain-wash you they will just insult you endlessly.

By all means please keep posting on this site! But don't let the mindless cult get to you!
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:17 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dipshit.


Hey geneius, it is a play on the "E5C4P3" album..get it?

By the way..aw never mind... your not worth the trouble. But for the record, my first post was not negative toward anyone...anger management may be in order.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:20 pm

E5C4P3ING wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dipshit.


Hey geneius, it is a play on the "E5C4P3" album..get it?

By the way..aw never mind... your not worth the trouble. But for the record, my first post was not negative toward anyone...anger management may be in order.


Fight back!!!! You must be a Wiggler. :lol:
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:23 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
E5C4P3ING wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
annie89509 wrote:
So I'm listening to Arrival, over and over again, trying to have an open mind. Yes, it has the Journey sound. Higher Place rocks. All the Way is a good ballad. Signs of Life has the uptempo Journey beat. The rest seems generic, all sound the same, even the song titles. The major problem with me is, every time SA does something that reminds of SP (some people call it Perryisms), only the voice not nearly as good, I'd cringed. I think he's a decent singer, but he should sing in his own style.


I've been a Journey fan for over 25 years and I feel exactly the same way about Arrival. It's a good Journey-sounding album, Augeri is a good singer, but just doesn't quite make it to Journey/Perry-quality.

And if someone didn't tell me Never Too Late was sung by Deen, I'd have thought it was SA.


I'm glad you said that. Many people think Deen sounds just like Perry. :roll: Puh-leeze, he sounds good, but he's not anywhere near Perry's league.


Thanks for the advice Survivor, but in the famous words of some drunk "I ain't scared!".

By the way, did I mention that Steve Perry IS my FAVORITE singer?

Judging by some of the comments here, I thought I may have forgotten to mention that!

You have solidified one of my points. I too find Steve Augeri to be a talented singer and do appreciate his music; however, I did not say that he was or should ever try to be Steve Perry. In fact, I believe I said the Augeri era Journey would have fared better by NOT trying to be Journey at all, instead, they should have strived to be a unique band, making unique music, music which shouldn't be compared to Perry era Journey. Music that was and is good, but not necessarily great and that's ok....at least it is with me.


Hey E5c4p3ing, I mean this in a kind way, don't argue with them they will only gang up and try to bully you off of the site.
There's a cult on this site, and if they can't brain-wash you they will just insult you endlessly.

By all means please keep posting on this site! But don't let the mindless cult get to you!
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:34 pm

E5C4P3ING wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dip****.


Hey geneius, it is a play on the "E5C4P3" album..get it?


What's the 2nd "e" in "geneius" a play on? :P Just kidding, dude! Welcome to the board!
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:37 pm

RipRokken wrote:
E5C4P3ING wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Hey E5C4PING....You might want to learn how to spell escaping. There is no second "e" you dip****.


Hey geneius, it is a play on the "E5C4P3" album..get it?


What's the 2nd "e" in "geneius" a play on? :P Just kidding, dude! Welcome to the board!


Rip,

That's not a play on anything...that's a genuine "typo"! Thanks.
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:37 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
You have solidified one of my points. I too find Steve Augeri to be a talented singer and do appreciate his music; however, I did not say that he was or should ever try to be Steve Perry. In fact, I believe I said the Augeri era Journey would have fared better by NOT trying to be Journey at all, instead, they should have strived to be a unique band, making unique music, music which shouldn't be compared to Perry era Journey. Music that was and is good, but not necessarily great and that's ok....at least it is with me.


I know. The only argument I had with your original post was that you said Arrival had kick-ass music and I only thought it was good, not kick-ass.

Hey E5c4p3ing, I mean this in a kind way, don't argue with them they will only gang up and try to bully you off of the site.
There's a cult on this site, and if they can't brain-wash you they will just insult you endlessly.

By all means please keep posting on this site! But don't let the mindless cult get to you!


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Postby amaron » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:40 pm

I love the Augeri music and I don't give a shit what people think.... but you're way in over your head here if you think these threads are going to fly.

You won't win.
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Postby E5C4P3ING » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:42 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
You have solidified one of my points. I too find Steve Augeri to be a talented singer and do appreciate his music; however, I did not say that he was or should ever try to be Steve Perry. In fact, I believe I said the Augeri era Journey would have fared better by NOT trying to be Journey at all, instead, they should have strived to be a unique band, making unique music, music which shouldn't be compared to Perry era Journey. Music that was and is good, but not necessarily great and that's ok....at least it is with me.


I know. The only argument I had with your original post was that you said Arrival had kick-ass music and I only thought it was good, not kick-ass.

I see what the problem is here. My "kick-ass" is > or = to your "good". :wink: Got it!
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