Guitar heroes in recent melodic rock...

by **strangegrey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:43 am

conversationpc wrote:
Let me add, Neal Morse is a genius in his own right....granted, he's a keyboardist. Spock's Beard was never the same after he left. Sorta like Styx without DeYoung.

His two solo albums, "One" and "Testimony" are both excellent, better than anything Spock's Beard has done since then anyway.

Thats consistent with my view that he was the heart and soul of that band...without his voice and music, SB is just another magna-carta style prog band with zero substance (I know SB is on metalblade, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are a gazzilion of these throw away prog bands that were released on Magna Carta records)...

Same thing with Styx. take anything Styx did without deyoung (including the non-deyoung songs on brave new world...and it just doesn't sound like styx...at all. It just sounds like Tommy Shaw solo shit....

by **Maro** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:12 am

I have another one...

VINNY BURNS:
1988 - Dare (Out of the Silence)
1991 - Dare (Blood From Stone)
1997 - Asia (Live: Osaka) LIVE
1997 - Asia (Live: Philadelphia) LIVE
2000 - Asia (Live At The Town & Country Club) LIVE
1994 - Ultravox (Ingenuity)
1995 - Ultravox (Future Picture) LIVE
1996 - Ten (Ten)
1996 - Ten (The Name of the Rose)
1997 - Hugo (Hugo)
1997 - Ten (The Robe)
1998 - Bob Catley (The Tower)
1998 - Gary Hughes (Precious Ones)
1998 - Ten (Never Say Goodbye) LIVE
1999 - Bob Catley (Legends)
1999 - Ten (Spellbound)
2000 - Hugo (Time On Earth)
2000 - Ten (Babylon)
2000 - Vinny Burns (The Journey)
2001 - Bob Catley (Middle Earth)
2001 - Ten (Far Beyond the World)
2002 - Billy Currie (Pieces Of The Puzzle)
2003 - Burns Blue (What If...)
2004 - The Ladder (Future Miracles)

by **Little Lenny** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:40 am

Rory Gallagher for me ...

by **strangegrey** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:36 am

Maro wrote:I have another one...

VINNY BURNS:
1988 - Dare (Out of the Silence)
1991 - Dare (Blood From Stone)
1997 - Asia (Live: Osaka) LIVE
1997 - Asia (Live: Philadelphia) LIVE
2000 - Asia (Live At The Town & Country Club) LIVE
1994 - Ultravox (Ingenuity)
1995 - Ultravox (Future Picture) LIVE
1996 - Ten (Ten)
1996 - Ten (The Name of the Rose)
1997 - Hugo (Hugo)
1997 - Ten (The Robe)
1998 - Bob Catley (The Tower)
1998 - Gary Hughes (Precious Ones)
1998 - Ten (Never Say Goodbye) LIVE
1999 - Bob Catley (Legends)
1999 - Ten (Spellbound)
2000 - Hugo (Time On Earth)
2000 - Ten (Babylon)
2000 - Vinny Burns (The Journey)
2001 - Bob Catley (Middle Earth)
2001 - Ten (Far Beyond the World)
2002 - Billy Currie (Pieces Of The Puzzle)
2003 - Burns Blue (What If...)
2004 - The Ladder (Future Miracles)

Cant fucking argue with that one! The Viper kicks ass...I miss him...he's been sadly absent from recent 6-string ass kicking....

by **YankeeRose** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:12 pm

Mike Slamer also gets my vote! Steelhouse Lane, Seventh Key and Slamer are alll amazing albums, with incredible guitar riffs and solos.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:12 pm

IMO the cream of the crop for melodic rock guitarists are...

Neal Schon
Frankie Sullivan
Steve Lukather
Josh Ramos
Dan Huff
Mick Jones (of Foreigner)
Lincoln Brewster
Jeff Watson
Brad Gillis
Paul Dean
Tom Scholtz
James Young
Tommy Shaw

To a certain extent you can also consider Jeff Carlisi and Elliot Easton to be melodic rock guitarists, and their both excellent players too.

I just know that after I post this I'm going to remember someone that I should have named.

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:00 am

BRUCE GOWDY:
1984 - Stone Fury (Burns Like a Star)
1986 - Stone Fury (Let Them Talk)
1989 - World Trade (World Trade)
1992 - Unruly Child (Unruly Child)
1994 - Bobby Kimball (Rise Up)
1994 - James Christian (Rude Awakening)
1995 - Frederiksen/Phillips (Frederiksen/Phillips)
1995 - Glenn Hughes (Feel)
1995 - Marcie Free (Tormented)
1995 - World Trade (Euphoria)
1998 - Unruly Child (Waiting for the Sun)
1999 - Fergie Frederiksen (Equilibrium)
2002 - Unruly Child (The Basement Demos)
2002 - Unruly Child (UC III)
2005 - Mercedes (Rock-N-Soul Blvd...)

by **strangegrey** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 am

Right, but we're talking about recent guitarists...

Neal Schon is growing irrelevant by the minute. Frankie Sullivan was irrelevant after Rocky IV made it to VHS, Dan Huff doesn't even play melodic rock anymore, same goes for Lincoln Brewster, Jeff Watson is in exile, Tom Sholz hasn't recorded anything earth shattering in over 13 years, Brad Gillis rules...but same thing....Paul Dean!?!?!?! I give up...

The rest of the players on that list (and some mentioned above) are too busy kicking out their singers and scraping the bottom of the fan-barrel.....instead of actually doing worthwhile guitar work.

the ONLY guy on this list worth mentioning, with respect to the title of this thread, is Josh Ramos....

Journey/Survivor wrote:IMO the cream of the crop for melodic rock guitarists are...

Neal Schon
Frankie Sullivan
Steve Lukather
Josh Ramos
Dan Huff
Mick Jones (of Foreigner)
Lincoln Brewster
Jeff Watson
Brad Gillis
Paul Dean
Tom Scholtz
James Young
Tommy Shaw

To a certain extent you can also consider Jeff Carlisi and Elliot Easton to be melodic rock guitarists, and their both excellent players too.

I just know that after I post this I'm going to remember someone that I should have named.

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:22 am

I have new two...

GERHARD PICHLER:
2000 - Melodica (Long Way From Home)
2001 - Melodica (Acoustica)
2001 - Melodica (USAcoustica)
2001 - Melodica (Lovemetal)
2002 - Poley-Pichler (Big)
2007 - The Ladder (Sacred)

J.M. SCATTOLIN:
2003 - Perfect World (Perfect World)
2003 - Vertigo (Vertigo)
2004 - From The Inside (From The Inside)
2004 - James Christian (Meet The Man)
2004 - Over The Edge (Over The Edge featuring Mickey Thomas)
2005 - Robin Beck (Do You Miss Me)
2005 - Tommy Funderburk (Anything For You)

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:30 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:IMO the cream of the crop for melodic rock guitarists are...

Neal Schon
Frankie Sullivan
Steve Lukather
Josh Ramos
Dan Huff
Mick Jones (of Foreigner)
Lincoln Brewster
Jeff Watson
Brad Gillis
Paul Dean
Tom Scholtz
James Young
Tommy Shaw

To a certain extent you can also consider Jeff Carlisi and Elliot Easton to be melodic rock guitarists, and their both excellent players too.

I just know that after I post this I'm going to remember someone that I should have named.

you live in the 80's with me..

gonna go get into my 2 lace Kaepas as well today..

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:35 am

one thing NEAL has over all of these guys is that HE CAN WRITE ... he doesnt shred the fastest.. he
doesnt go into crazy tunings, but he has the gift to put together songs that folks like hearing.. Eddie
could do the same.. im not so sure Steve Morse does that much .. Satch can... Vai cant... Vai is amazing
on guitar .. but not a song writer fo the masses...

but none of these guys has invented anything lately..

by **conversationpc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:08 am

After thinking about this for a while, here are a few...and I'm limiting myself to guys who started making a name for themselves in the 90s...

Al Pitrelli (Alice Cooper, Asia, Megadeth, Savatage & TSO) - Next to Neal, my favorite player
John Petrucci
Zakk Wylde
Axel Rudi Pell
Joe Stump
Eric Johnson (he was around for awhile in the 80s but didn't really bust out until 1990)
Nick van Dyk (in Redemption w/Fates Warning's Ray Alder)
Michael Romeo
Michael Angelo Batio

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:08 am

One more guitar hero of recent melodic rock...

MIKE AQUINO:
2000 - Jim Peterik and World Stage (Jim Peterik and World Stage)
2001 - Kelly Keagy (Time Passes)
2002 - Mecca (Mecca)
2003 - Jim Peterik and World Stage (Rock America: Smash Hits Live)
2003 - Pride of Lions (Pride of Lions)
2004 - Pride of Lions (The Destiny Stone)
2006 - Jim Peterik (Above The Storm)
2006 - Pride of Lions (Live In Belgium)
2007 - Kelly Keagy (I'm Alive)
2007 - Pride of Lions (The Roaring Of Dreams)

by **conversationpc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:05 am

For those unfamiliar with Al Pitrelli...I've always thought of him as the heavy metal version of Neal. Very melodic player, in other words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE7tH-pDd8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_o5apjAB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl0lxuLt5vg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGC378EmFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeriJcu1eJM

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:24 am

Al Pitrelli played on two damn good ASIA albums from 90's (featuring John Payne on vocals) - AQUA (92.) and ARIA (94.)

I'm not sure if he played anything on best two ALICE COOPER's albums (Trash and Hey Stoopid) but he was in his touring band at that time...
I remember him contributing couple of guitar lections for serbian Hardmetal magazine in 1990/91.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:16 am

conversationpiece wrote:For those unfamiliar with Al Pitrelli...I've always thought of him as the heavy metal version of Neal. Very melodic player, in other words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_o5apjAB8

mmmm,, man he is good!!!.. almost hear some Gary Moore in there.. Murder in the Skys in places..

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:51 am

One more guitar hero... Alex De Rosso... played in Dokken as John Norum's replacement back in 2002/03., but never made to record anything with Don...
more into heavy metal up to 2002, since 2003 more into melodic rock...

ALEX DE ROSSO:
1987 - Dark Lord (It's nigh'time)
1995 - Alex De Rosso (Alex De Rosso)
1997 - Serena Rock Band (On The Move)
1998 - Serena Rock Band (Soli)
1998 - Derosso (Ossimoro)
1999 - Dunwich (Eternal Eclipse Of Frost)
2002 - Derosso (The thin line between black and white)
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2003 - Vertigo (Vertigo)
2003 - Perfect World (Perfect World)
2004 - Shadows Fade (Shadows Fade featuring Kevin Chalfant)
2005 - Bruno Rock (Interaction)
2005 - Headrush (Headrush)
2005 - Michele Luppi's Heaven (Strive)

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:53 am

Maro wrote:One more guitar hero... Alex De Rosso... played in Dokken as John Norum's replacement back in 2002/03., but never made to record anything with Don...
more into heavy metal up to 2002, since 2003 more into melodic rock...

ALEX DE ROSSO:
1987 - Dark Lord (It's nigh'time)
1995 - Alex De Rosso (Alex De Rosso)
1997 - Serena Rock Band (On The Move)
1998 - Serena Rock Band (Soli)
1998 - Derosso (Ossimoro)
1999 - Dunwich (Eternal Eclipse Of Frost)
2002 - Derosso (The thin line between black and white)
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2003 - Vertigo (Vertigo)
2003 - Perfect World (Perfect World)
2004 - Shadows Fade (Shadows Fade featuring Kevin Chalfant)
2005 - Bruno Rock (Interaction)
2005 - Headrush (Headrush)
2005 - Michele Luppi's Heaven (Strive)

dude, you know lots of obscure crazy bands... all with great players..

by **Maro** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:00 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:dude, you know lots of obscure crazy bands... all with great players..

Thanks man, I do my best...

by **conversationpc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:16 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpiece wrote:For those unfamiliar with Al Pitrelli...I've always thought of him as the heavy metal version of Neal. Very melodic player, in other words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_o5apjAB8

mmmm,, man he is good!!!.. almost hear some Gary Moore in there.. Murder in the Skys in places..

He's also the one who plays most or all of those crazy melodic solos in the TSO tunes.

by **Rick** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:19 am

conversationpiece wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpiece wrote:For those unfamiliar with Al Pitrelli...I've always thought of him as the heavy metal version of Neal. Very melodic player, in other words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_o5apjAB8

mmmm,, man he is good!!!.. almost hear some Gary Moore in there.. Murder in the Skys in places..

He's also the one who plays most or all of those crazy melodic solos in the TSO tunes.

You did change it. Well, that'll end the confusion.

That guy is fantastic. I do hear some Schon in his playing.

by **Indyjoe** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:22 am

conversationpiece wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
conversationpiece wrote:For those unfamiliar with Al Pitrelli...I've always thought of him as the heavy metal version of Neal. Very melodic player, in other words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h_o5apjAB8

mmmm,, man he is good!!!.. almost hear some Gary Moore in there.. Murder in the Skys in places..

He's also the one who plays most or all of those crazy melodic solos in the TSO tunes.

I saw TSO (Al Pitrelli) here the week of Thanksgiving! WOW!!!! They were OUTSTANDING!! The show was incredible! I have been wanting to see them for a few years and finally this was the year! The show is a must see!!

~Wendy

by **conversationpc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:33 am

Indyjoe wrote:I saw TSO (Al Pitrelli) here the week of Thanksgiving! WOW!!!! They were OUTSTANDING!! The show was incredible! I have been wanting to see them for a few years and finally this was the year! The show is a must see!!

~Wendy

I haven't seen them yet, though I have all their albums. The kicker is that they are so popular that they have two touring bands that go out at the same time every year, one covering the eastern half and the other the western. Pitrelli has been with the western group and, unfortunately, if they come to Indiana next year and I get a chance to see them, I won't get to see him.

by **Indyjoe** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:43 am

conversationpiece wrote:
Indyjoe wrote:I saw TSO (Al Pitrelli) here the week of Thanksgiving! WOW!!!! They were OUTSTANDING!! The show was incredible! I have been wanting to see them for a few years and finally this was the year! The show is a must see!!

~Wendy

I haven't seen them yet, though I have all their albums. The kicker is that they are so popular that they have two touring bands that go out at the same time every year, one covering the eastern half and the other the western. Pitrelli has been with the western group and, unfortunately, if they come to Indiana next year and I get a chance to see them, I won't get to see him.

We were in the same boat as you, only we wanted to see the east coast group - Alex Skolnick!! But I tell you we were not disappointed in the least!!! And as you know Al Pitrelli is fantastic!! The other guitarist on our side of the stage - we had great seats thanks to the TSO fan club(it's free join it before you get tix) - was Angus Clark. Also fantastic!! I wish I had gotten a program so I knew all the rest of the names. The whole group - everyone - FANTASTIC.

by **Maro** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:29 am

Another big talent... I've read he's Croat like me... but lives in Canada...

MLADEN (aka MLADEN HAZE):
1991 - Tom Cochrane (Mad Mad World)
1992 - Von Groove (Von Groove)
1995 - Von Groove (Rainmaker)
1997 - Von Groove (Mission Man)
1998 - Von Groove (Chameleon)
1999 - Von Groove (Test Of Faith)
2000 - 24K (Pure)
2000 - Von Groove (Drivin Off the Edge of the World)
2000 - Von Groove (3 Faces Past)
2001 - Von Groove (The Seventh Day)
2001 - 24K (Bulletproof)
2002 - Final Frontier (First Wave)
2004 - Final Frontier (The Second Wave)
2005 - Final Frontier (High Tension Wire)
2006 - Final Frontier (Freelight)

MR

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