With all this negative Arnel talk..

[Journey69]

Agreed, Arnel has an excellent voice. His singing and boyish looks can pass for half his age (is he really 40 yrs old?). But what does Neal/Jon hope to accomplish, hiring someone that sings those songs just like SP used to do. This is just too eerie. It is not 1980, they are not in their 20's-30's. Grow up, you guys! Didn't Neal say he nearly freaked out when he heard Hugo sing. Isn't this the same thing? I say bring back SA and make another Arrival. Leave us fans with our Perry song memories, please!

I have been converted. No, not going to polish Jon and Neals knobs, NOT cheerleading or praising at every turn. No one can deny this guy can't sing.

Annie, sadly, Steve Augeri I fear won't make it back to this level, not in my opinion.

you used to be my hero Deano.... you left us for the dark side!!!

Some people are just letting their grudge go is all.. St John did it also..We can't control it and we are all here because we love Journey. People are hearing more about Arnel all the time and hearing stuff besides you tube and its making them think..Maybe this guy isn't so far fetched..I also think this guy will be able to pull off Sweet and Simple,Winds of March and maybe,just maybe Something to Hide.. The dirty dozen is not going to be hard for this guy.. Listen to some of his solo stuff,he's like Perry,It comes so natural the guy doesn't even strain..I hope they have him sing some Augeri stuff too..

Excellent post Journey69!!!! I too would have to agree with what you said! Especially the Augeri stuff...Jeremey said they have at least 1 Augeri track in the Frontiers set now.

Thanks man,I appreciate that!

[Deb]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

[brywool]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Post of the day right here.

[bluejeangirl76]

Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me.

Exactly. Been there and done that, can't touch it, can't replicate it. Trying this hard to hold on to it after all this time is just sad. Just shows they don't believe they are capable of getting anywhere by moving on with a different type of vocalist. If they really believed in their ability to succeed without Perry, they wouldn't have dumped JSS. But they know their bread is buttered on the Perry side, so they're clinging to it.

[Journey69]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

[Moon Beam]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Untrue for me......
I was excited previously, now I am not because I was lied to.....period.
I have and will continue to listen to what Mr Pineda has to offer but I am unwilling to spend
another penny on the band I once loved.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Definitely not true, none of what happened was Arnel Pineda's fault and he will just be trying to do his new job. If it sounds good Ill listen to it. I may not jump up and down and say that its the best thing ever since they invented Wonder bread, and I still will be of the definite opinion that they would have done much better things with JSS. Furthermore Journey might not be always top recipient of my limited entertainment money. But if Arnel personally sounds good I'll admit it and recommend it .

Lets just wait see what it sounds like.

[Journey69]

Cool,I appreciate the honest responses.. I just know there are a few haters on here,and some are converted..That is refreshing..I am not on here to shove Arnel down anyones throat,but it gets ridiculous when the poor guy isn't even given a shot..I agree,lets wait and see,but I have a feeling people are going to be impressed..

[Deb]

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I can't listen to it at work, but will listen tomorrow and get back to you. Picky listener? I have listened to him and DO like his voice, just don't LOVE it. Sorry, but no matter how hard ya push it just doesn't wow me. You also kind of contradicted yourself. You said "everyone sings their own way....Arnel will sing his own way with Journey", then in the next sentence you say "putting their own spin on Journey songs does not help win people over."

Not sure what people you are talking about, but I DO want a new singer that isn't Perry to put their own spin on it.

Not a hater, by any stretch. Just not bowled over is all.

[Journey69]

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I can't listen to it at work, but will listen tomorrow and get back to you. Picky listener? I have listened to him and DO like his voice, just don't LOVE it. Sorry, but no matter how hard ya push it just doesn't wow me. You also kind of contradicted yourself. You said "everyone sings their own way....Arnel will sing his own way with Journey", then in the next sentence you say "putting their own spin on Journey songs does not help win people over."

Not sure what people you are talking about, but I DO want a new singer that isn't Perry to put their own spin on it.

Not a hater, by any stretch. Just not bowled over is all.

False,you took it out of context. I meant when they do a new album,they sing their own way tailored to their own voice.When they sing SP's Journey songs,most try to nail them and not deviate. It's when they deviate that people have a problem. When I hear a country singer try to sing a Journey song it pisses me off because they normally bastardize it! Someone said it in another post perfectly.. I can't remember exactly what it said,but something like Perry had the soaring tenor and power to back it up,Augeri has the tenor not the power,Jeff has the Power but not the tenor,he doesn't not naturally sing tenor,he would kill himself doing it night after night,Arnel does have the power and the natural tenor.Not exactly like Perry,but he is by far the closest..Listen to Freebird Deb especially the end,and you will see.It might even change your mind..

[Strange Medicine]

Different strokes for different folks, it seems.

Personally? Stage present is highly essential, but it isn't an absolute necessity. The voice, however, is. I enjoyed the concerts I saw with Augeri, even though his stage present was rather restrained; he sang the songs brilliantly. I enjoyed JSS just as much, but his stage presence simply blew Augeri's own out of the proverbial water. However, he also had to sing the songs in his own way. I stand by the opinion that he didn't sing like Perry because he simply couldn't.

As far as vocal ability is concerned, I do believe Arnel is better than Augeri and Soto. 'Emotion' is subjective and while he might not be overflowing with it, y'never know. It's subject to change.

[journeyinto2001]

Bottom Line is that Arnel HAS- THE VOICE. That is what has been missing since Perry. While I won't say that Journey is going to have success anywhere close to the Perry years, I will say that I predict they will be as successful as is possible, thanks to having Arnel's voice representing Journey, as they ride into the sunset.

Still They Ride!

[Lora]

Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

So very well said and I agree on all points, especially about not caring how high or low someone can sing. I think Arnel is great but there is absolutely no wow-factor for me there. I love it that you are an Eric Martin fan now, too. Talk about an underrated singer.

[Saint John]

Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

So very well said and I agree on all points, especially about not caring how high or low someone can sing. I think Arnel is great but there is absolutely no wow-factor for me there. I love it that you are an Eric Martin fan now, too. Talk about an underrated singer.

Can either one of you go one fucking post without mentioning Eric Martin, Steve Perry or JSS?

[Lori Jo]

Lets focus on what really counts, and that's this mans raw talent. His voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpnEnt-qOw4&feature=related

I'm eager for the first show with this guy leading. Can't wait.

I definitely second that! He is amazing and I can't wait to see him in concert.

[RPM]

If he can sound that good on crappy youtube vids with a HORRIBLE band....well they may have found
a gem here, cause he has a geat voice, i will save his stage presence judgement for when i see him with
a real band.

[mistiejourney]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Exactly. Arnel is a talented man (and I was stunned that he is 40), but he will be fronting a band I am no longer a fan of. That's all. The guy can sing! The world is FULL of guys who can "sing like Perry" and Arnel does it well.

As BB King said, "the thrill is gone, baby".

[mistiejourney]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I spent an evening looking for Arnel You Tubes and for his solo album - I listened to Freebird and the man is really good! I gave him a "shot" and I have no problems with his voice, his accent, his looks (he's cute) or anything about him. I'm sure this is the thrill of a lifetime for him. I listened, I gave him a "shot" and liked what I heard.

I have a problem with Journey. And he is fronting Journey. Ergo, I won't be listening.

[Saint John]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I spent an evening looking for Arnel You Tubes and for his solo album - I listened to Freebird and the man is really good! I gave him a "shot" and I have no problems with his voice, his accent, his looks (he's cute) or anything about him. I'm sure this is the thrill of a lifetime for him. I listened, I gave him a "shot" and liked what I heard.

I have a problem with Journey. And he is fronting Journey. Ergo, I won't be listening.

What's your problem with Journey?

[Lula]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

complete rubbish!

[wildone]

How do you guys get behind these clowns is beyond me.There track record sucks big time.They abuse people and toss them out. They don't give a rats ass about how there fans feel.About the Arnel thing well....alot of fans got behind JSS and look what happend...so hmmm nothing is final contract or not they've proven that.My thoughts well you all know what that is...Playing Soon At A Lumpia Festival near you!There going to wring as much money as they can from Arnels country men give him a few bucks for helping out then when thats all played out.....NEXT YOUTUBE WINNER IS.......... Hey you know we have'nt done Japan in awhile hmmm hey Neil check it out !!! Fuckin killin me here!

[mistiejourney]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I spent an evening looking for Arnel You Tubes and for his solo album - I listened to Freebird and the man is really good! I gave him a "shot" and I have no problems with his voice, his accent, his looks (he's cute) or anything about him. I'm sure this is the thrill of a lifetime for him. I listened, I gave him a "shot" and liked what I heard.

I have a problem with Journey. And he is fronting Journey. Ergo, I won't be listening.

What's your problem with Journey?

Hi SJ! I'm just tired, burnt out with the drama, spent a ton of money over the years (well spent!) and feel it's time to move on. Still think Neal Schon is the greatest guitar player I've ever heard. I guess I'm a "fan" because (a) I'm still here and (b) talking about Arnel and (c) I enjoy the debates and the MR folks! (but it's because of the 22-year history I have with the band. The history of the band doesn't change, I just don't feel like riding the Journey train anymore.

I used to be angry, but that's dissipated. It's almost better to be angry, at least it shows an emotional attachment. Apathy, and I'm getting there, just means you don't care anymore.

I hope, for Arnel's sake, that they are successful. And I hope they treat him with respect and decency.

(and I managed to post without a single reference to another singer, or three! )

[Saint John]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

complete rubbish!

Jesus, Lula. Hasn't Dean taught you anything? What kind of answer is "complete rubbish!?" It should have been, "That's complete fuckin' bullshit." Now go practice.

[Andrew]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Poppy cock. I'm JSS fanclub membr #1 and I'm giving him a chance....so there's that theory burried like an old pair of Steve Perry spray on pants.

[mistiejourney]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

complete rubbish!

Jesus, Lula. Hasn't Dean taught you anything? What kind of answer is "complete rubbish!?" It should have been, "That's complete fuckin' bullshit." Now go practice.

That pic of Wyatt is worth a million bucks!

[wildone]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Poppy cock. I'm JSS fanclub membr #1 and I'm giving him a chance....so there's that theory burried like an old pair of Steve Perry spray on pants.

JSS is going to be just fine my prediction he's going to end doing better without them in the long run ...they missed there boat!

[Saint John]

He's a little flat on the high notes in the chorus.

My concern is this. He can sing these songs, yes, with his little bar band in the Phillippines, one night a week, etc. Great. Good for him, he sounds like a million bucks.

Can he do it full time? Can he do it after getting off an airplane, after being in a bus for 6 hours, for the third night in a row, with a cold, with nothing but assholes behind him pushing him harder?

Steve Augeri couldn't. Jeff Scott Soto could be JSS can do anything. And let's not forget the culture shock this poor bastard has already gotta be going thru.

I don't believe for a second that this is gonna work. For Arnel, I hope it does, seems like a nice kid. For the assholes whose pockets his hard work and sacrifice will line, I hope it doesn't.

He's not doing a perfect job on these clips, and these are under NO pressure. You guys tell me...what's gonna happen when the pressure hits bigtime? What's gonna happen in Indianapolis the night after Chicago two nights after Denver on his 10th show in 14 days?

You've got a point, some food for thought. Time will tell I guess.
There is no denying that AP has a great voice. But for me, it's just missing the emotion/passion for it to be a favorite. There just isn't that excitement anymore for me that ya get when you're going to see a show of your favorite band. I hope he does very well and I'm sure he probably will, if he isn't pushed too hard like past Journey frontmen.

Goto itunes,search Arnel, You will see his solo album,listen to the song Freebird and come back and tell me there is no feeling! This guy has it! Beautiful song... Listen to the high notes he hits at the end of the song..I really believe he can sing the older Perry stuff better than anyone..Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Not true. Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

We aren't talking about favorite singers.Did you listen to Freebird yet? No you didn't.You sound like a picky listener.Everyone sings their own way,Perry,JSS,Augeri and Arnel.. Arnel will sing his own way with Journey also.Someone putting their own spin on old Journey songs does not help win people over..They don't want that changed.Just listen to Freebird,then PM me if you want..I would love to hear your opinion..

I spent an evening looking for Arnel You Tubes and for his solo album - I listened to Freebird and the man is really good! I gave him a "shot" and I have no problems with his voice, his accent, his looks (he's cute) or anything about him. I'm sure this is the thrill of a lifetime for him. I listened, I gave him a "shot" and liked what I heard.

I have a problem with Journey. And he is fronting Journey. Ergo, I won't be listening.

What's your problem with Journey?

Hi SJ! I'm just tired, burnt out with the drama, spent a ton of money over the years (well spent!) and feel it's time to move on. Still think Neal Schon is the greatest guitar player I've ever heard. I guess I'm a "fan" because (a) I'm still here and (b) talking about Arnel and (c) I enjoy the debates and the MR folks! (but it's because of the 22-year history I have with the band. The history of the band doesn't change, I just don't feel like riding the Journey train anymore.

I used to be angry, but that's dissipated. It's almost better to be angry, at least it shows an emotional attachment. Apathy, and I'm getting there, just means you don't care anymore.

I hope, for Arnel's sake, that they are successful. And I hope they treat him with respect and decency.

(and I managed to post without a single reference to another singer, or three! )

Fair points, but stick to just the music. The rock and roll industry is a tough, nasty place. There are inherent risks when you join a band. Journey is an ever-changing entity and so long as you keep the music first and foremost, you shelter yourself from petty things that really don't affect you. If the new lineup interests you check out a show. If they don't, stay home, but don't let intra-band squabbles make your choice for you. You owe yourself more than that. You've been a fan too long.

[mistiejourney]

Anyone who is into JSS is not going to give this guy a shot,period..

Poppy cock. I'm JSS fanclub membr #1 and I'm giving him a chance....so there's that theory burried like an old pair of Steve Perry spray on pants.

I wholehearted thank Andrew for that visual!

Not that I ever looked.

Or anything.

[mistiejourney]

Fair points, but stick to just the music. The rock and roll industry is a tough, nasty place. There are inherent risks when you join a band. Journey is an ever-changing entity and so long as you keep the music first and foremost, you shelter yourself from petty things that really don't affect you. If the new lineup interests you check out a show. If they don't, stay home, but don't let intra-band squabbles make your choice for you. You owe yourself more than that. You've been a fan too long.

I once swore I'd die before I ever set foot at a Journey show fronted by Steve Augeri. I wound up seeing him at least 12-15 times.

Just sayin'!

[Deb]

Vocals are very subjective, by person. Some may not agree with my favorite 3 vocalists either and that's fine. I can usually tell right away whether certain vocal tones are going to get under my skin and stick with me. 1) it has never been about range, even with Perry......personally it's not a big issue how high or low someone can sing. It's more about a particular tone/timbre and the delivery. 2) Sounding just like Perry on the old Perry stuff is actually what turns me off, there is nothing unique there and doesn't intrigue me. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great singer, just doesn't WOW me like the other 3. And 3) Same arguement could have been said about SP. That "Anyone into SP is not going to give JSS a shot period". Doesn't fly with me, I'm a major Perry fan and JSS is right up their in my top 3 vocalists now, so obviously there was something vocally unique and soulful enough to be there.

So very well said and I agree on all points, especially about not caring how high or low someone can sing. I think Arnel is great but there is absolutely no wow-factor for me there. I love it that you are an Eric Martin fan now, too. Talk about an underrated singer.

One more reason/show to come to Cali for. I remember really liking his voice way back in the Mr. Big days but then got wrapped up in marriage/child etc. and got into Bon Jovi....great band but vocally, no comparison between JBJ and EM. EM is extremely underrated!