strangegrey wrote:This is what kills me. At least 5 years before the ipods became a big thing, I was using an mp3 player...I remember back to 1998/99, walking to work in manhattan listening to Slaves of the New World on my diamond rio. Shortly after that, I got a creative.
For some strange, I cant figure out, reason...apple came out with a product that Creative had out for several years (in imho, Creative's was a superior prioduct) and ipods exploded onto the public. Fucking strange.
Today, I use a creative Vision M:30g...when I bought it, 30 gigs was pretty much the top of the line. It was either this unit or a 30g ipod. At the time, the 30gb ipod was at least 30-40 bucks more expensive...however, the creative was capable of 4-5 times as much color on it's screen than the ipod was.
I'm not sure if creative's screen still blows away the ipods, but at the time it did. You could notice a distinct difference in the screen apearance between the two.
Hey a Vision:M *and* Steelhouse Lane??? Two great choices there, Frank!
I was originally going for the 30GB myself, until I saw that NewEgg had the 60GB for about $50 more. Was a no-brainer there.

The M/W displayed over 260k colors, but new Zen now displays over 16 million colors, so I'd say iPod is still lacking in the screen department.
Unfortunately, it's all about marketing. No one even knows that Creative exists, but after I show them my unit, they say they wish they bought that instead of their iPod. More and more I find people sitting next to me with an M (even saw a couple of Ws!). I went to J&R's big promo thing for the M soon after they came out and was smitten ever since.

Despite all of the accessories available, I wouldn't give my Zen up for anything... Well, except for another new Zen.
Debbie