Arnel sang DSB in afternoon TV show 11/29/08

[aliaslen]

Good that he is now promoting the Revelation album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvx2opyj1hA

How is he promoting the new album when he is singing an old song ?

Maybe he's promoting Steve Perry's new album "Steve Perry Presents: Journey's Greatest Hits"

Come on, It's a Journey song and part of Revelation Album. This is a good promotion as Journey is not big in the Philippines.

I kinda disagree with this on the basis that even before Arnel became the lead singer of Journey, we can still regularly hear a Journey song on Philippine mainstream radio whereas you only hear them mostly on classic rock radio stations in America.

Though you can hear journey songs in PI radio, but like i said the band's name is not as big as other famous 80's band.

[Jana]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales? With the piracy there why bother? I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands. Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

I agree with you, if he were doing that in the States, then it would be cheesy. But the circumstances are unique. They hired a singer from the Philippines, who currently lives there off-tour. They're embarking upon their first Asian tour, and so maybe they aren't sure what size audience they will play to. I still say this builds excitement about their countryman Arnel being with Journey and showcasing Journey's music. Now, if he sang Journey music ad nauseum all over the Philippines solo without Journey, everything on tape (or whatever it is), that would be different. But a show here or there I think helps promotionwise and, obviously, JM has to approve it. Plus, I can't see how singing one song in a show every now and then hurts his voice. It's probably good for him. But you're right, if it begins to affect his voice, Journey's tour next year should be his first priority.

[mdaemon]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales?

..the same reasons why artists who were in recent times bigger acts than Journey was such as Michael Jackson, Christina Aguilera, and Beyonce had shows in the Philippines.

With the piracy there why bother?

...piracy is everywhere and it isn't as bad in the Philippines as let's say Brazil, Mexico or China. Artists in the Philippines still make a decent living selling albums.

I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands.

Arnel sang close to 1,000 songs during their 2008 tour. Gunbot, one song a week in his home country shouldn't do him any harm so stop worrying, ok?

Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

Arnel is just trying to have a career in the Philippines as that will be his fall back when Journey decides to call it quits or if they dump him. While his fans can be snotty about his recent success, I think Arnel knows that he needs to have a showbiz career in the Philippines to protect his long term future.

[mdaemon]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales? With the piracy there why bother? I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands. Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

I agree with you, if he were doing that in the States, then it would be cheesy. But the circumstances are unique. They hired a singer from the Philippines, who currently lives there off-tour. They're embarking upon their first Asian tour, and so maybe they aren't sure what size audience they will play to. I still say this builds excitement about their countryman Arnel being with Journey and showcasing Journey's music. Now, if he sang Journey music ad nauseum all over the Philippines solo without Journey, everything on tape (or whatever it is), that would be different. But a show here or there I think helps promotionwise and, obviously, JM has to approve it. Plus, I can't see how singing one song in a show every now and then hurts his voice. It's probably good for him. But you're right, if it begins to affect his voice, Journey's tour next year should be his first priority.

How can an average of less than one song a week affect his voice when he sang close to 1000 songs in just a few months?

[Jana]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales? With the piracy there why bother? I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands. Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

I agree with you, if he were doing that in the States, then it would be cheesy. But the circumstances are unique. They hired a singer from the Philippines, who currently lives there off-tour. They're embarking upon their first Asian tour, and so maybe they aren't sure what size audience they will play to. I still say this builds excitement about their countryman Arnel being with Journey and showcasing Journey's music. Now, if he sang Journey music ad nauseum all over the Philippines solo without Journey, everything on tape (or whatever it is), that would be different. But a show here or there I think helps promotionwise and, obviously, JM has to approve it. Plus, I can't see how singing one song in a show every now and then hurts his voice. It's probably good for him. But you're right, if it begins to affect his voice, Journey's tour next year should be his first priority.

How can an average of less than one song a week affect his voice when he sang close to 1000 songs in just a few months?

It's actually, I'm sure, good for him to get out there and sing in the occasional show while in the down time.

[Don]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales? With the piracy there why bother? I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands. Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

I agree with you, if he were doing that in the States, then it would be cheesy. But the circumstances are unique. They hired a singer from the Philippines, who currently lives there off-tour. They're embarking upon their first Asian tour, and so maybe they aren't sure what size audience they will play to. I still say this builds excitement about their countryman Arnel being with Journey and showcasing Journey's music. Now, if he sung Journey music ad nauseum all over the Philippines solo without Journey, everything on tape (or whatever it is), that would be different. But a show here or there I think helps promotionwise and, obviously, JM has to approve it. Plus, I can't see how singing one song in a show every now and then hurts his voice. It's probably good for him. But you're right, if it begins to affect his voice, Journey's tour next year should be his first priority.

I guess I am being inpatient. I don't see Revelation or even AATY on the billboard charts. I really want to see something new. He sounds like Perry sometimes and seeing him concert was a great flashback to my teen age years, but that was a one time shot. I want to see a strong album with a lot of work put into it. I think they rushed things because Arnel had that sound and they wanted to capitalize on it but this time they are going to have to do it on pure talent. I don't want to hear Arnel singing DSB or Faithfully, I want to see him sing something that he cowrote with Jon or Neal and really be able to say that they are a new Journey, not a Steve Perry tribute band. TDTWT and other great songs should have been performed more on this tour, especially later when sellouts were automatic, but they played it safe, mixing in different setlists but still not playing songs from Revelation. Why play Anytime, a song that new fans don't know when you could be promoting the new album and showing that your setlist doesnt have to be 80% Steve Perry? Maybe I'm spoiled from seeing them with Perry 4 times but I'm not going to any more tribute shows for 100 dollars. Get back in the Studio and create an album that you're not afraid to promote on your tours. The setlists on this Asian tour should be loaded with new material as Journey was want to do when touring Japan in the past. If it's gonna just be the SP dirty dozen then maybe itis time for me to check out the local tribute bands. At least they won't cost me a 100 bucks or more.

[Jana]

How many shows are they doing in the RP, one? I'm not seeing any big reason to promote the group there. Album sales? With the piracy there why bother? I just want the guy to rest up for his next big tour. Karaoke performances just looks cheesy to me, especially without the band. Can you imagine Perry, Deyoung or Brad Delp doing that when they were with their bands. Write a hit song for Journey and then you can play karaoke king, but as of now, I don't think he should be doing any Journey covers without the group.

I agree with you, if he were doing that in the States, then it would be cheesy. But the circumstances are unique. They hired a singer from the Philippines, who currently lives there off-tour. They're embarking upon their first Asian tour, and so maybe they aren't sure what size audience they will play to. I still say this builds excitement about their countryman Arnel being with Journey and showcasing Journey's music. Now, if he sung Journey music ad nauseum all over the Philippines solo without Journey, everything on tape (or whatever it is), that would be different. But a show here or there I think helps promotionwise and, obviously, JM has to approve it. Plus, I can't see how singing one song in a show every now and then hurts his voice. It's probably good for him. But you're right, if it begins to affect his voice, Journey's tour next year should be his first priority.

I guess I am being inpatient. I don't see Revelation or even AATY on the billboard charts. I really want to see something new. He sounds like Perry sometimes and seeing him concert was a great flashback to my teen age years, but that was a one time shot. I want to see a strong album with a lot of work put into it. I think they rushed things because Arnel had that sound and they wanted to capitalize on it but this time they are going to have to do it on pure talent. I don't want to hear Arnel singing DSB or Faithfully, I want to see him sing something that he cowrote with Jon or Neal and really be able to say that they are a new Journey, not a Steve Perry tribute band. TDTWT and other great songs should have been performed more on this tour, especially later when sellouts were automatic, but they played it safe, mixing in different setlists but still not playing songs from Revelation. Why play Anytime, a song that new fans don't know when you could be promoting the new album and showing that your setlist doesnt have to be 80% Steve Perry? Maybe I'm spoiled from seeing them with Perry 4 times but I'm not going to any more tribute shows for 100 dollars. Get back in the Studio and create an album that you're not afraid to promote on your tours. The setlists on this Asian tour should be loaded with new material as Journey was want to do when touring Japan in the past. If it's gonna just be the SP dirty dozen then maybe itis time for me to check out the local tribute bands. At least they won't cost me a 100 bucks or more.

No, Gunbot, believe me, I'm tired of the Dirty Dozen too. They had a lot to prove this time out with Arnel. I hope they mix it up more. They have a great catalogue of music; they should play it. Hopefully, this coming year they will play more off Revelation. They should have done TDTWT from the middle of the tour on. Unfortunately, they're always going to play the Dirty Dozen for the most part. They should take it down to the Dirty Seven . There's so many great songs I want to hear next year from late '78 on. We should start a wishlist on this board addressed to Neal for their setlist next year, since he's known to lurk on MR .

[stevew2]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

[Saint John]

Looked like they were waving big red dicks

[Don]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

Maybe they were, it looked like no one under 18 was allowed to attend the show. Arnel has his own band of middle aged housewives acting as loons. He really is imitating Perry.

[mdaemon]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

I dunno about the red balloons. I sometimes find it strange what Pinoys do...and I am a Pinoy.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Good that he is now promoting the Revelation album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvx2opyj1hA

wow.. that was unbelievable.. he was really getting some crazy high notes at the end..

it would really suck to be after Arnel on this show..

...that was what the two hosts (the fit lady and the fairy with a silly wig) were hinting at the end of the clip. You're not Pinoy are you?

no... BUT i do like fish sauce.. no really..

[stevew2]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

I dunno about the red balloons. I sometimes find it strange what Pinoys do...and I am a Pinoy.

do you have a red ballon ?

[Don]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

I dunno about the red balloons. I sometimes find it strange what Pinoys do...and I am a Pinoy.

do you have a red ballon ?

Why, Did someone steal yours?

[wednesday's child]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

[nutz4Neal]

Great to hear him sing again. I hope he's resting and enjoying his off time with friends and family.

[Don]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

Only because this Karaoke type clip made it on to here. I saw Arnel live and was impressed so I know he had overcome that problem for a time. You don't have to look for the accent here though, it jumps out right at you. i just think because he is home, he is lapsing back into his regular speech pattern. I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey. What next, a live performance at ShoeMart? Anyway he got his through his freshman season alright but I'm expecting a steller effort this time from the whole group with at least 12 new songs (and I mean new as in never been sang by anyone before).

[Rick]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

Only because this Karaoke type clip made it on to here. I saw Arnel live and was impressed so I know he had overcome that problem for a time. You don't have to look for the accent here though, it jumps out right at you. i just think because he is home, he is lapsing back into his regular speech pattern. I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey. What next, a live performance at ShoeMart? Anyway he got his through his freshman season alright but I'm expecting a steller effort this time from the whole group with at least 12 new songs (and I mean new as in never been sang by anyone before).

I don't think he's lapsing back. He's singing to his countrymen, he doesn't have to try as hard to cover an accent that they wouldn't hear anyway.

[Don]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

Only because this Karaoke type clip made it on to here. I saw Arnel live and was impressed so I know he had overcome that problem for a time. You don't have to look for the accent here though, it jumps out right at you. i just think because he is home, he is lapsing back into his regular speech pattern. I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey. What next, a live performance at ShoeMart? Anyway he got his through his freshman season alright but I'm expecting a steller effort this time from the whole group with at least 12 new songs (and I mean new as in never been sang by anyone before).

I don't think he's lapsing back. He's singing to his countrymen, he doesn't have to try as hard to cover an accent that they wouldn't hear anyway.

I didn't think he could cover it conciuosly, I thought he had overcome it at least when he's singing, the same way Sheena Easton or Irish singers do it when they perform. You don't know they're Irish until they actually talk when they're not singing. With all the running around he did on stage, I can't imagine him intentionally thinking to cover it when he was performing here in the states. With 80 shows under his belt it shouldn't be an issue when he comes back to perform here in the States again so I'll try to wait before my next critique. ( maybe Perry will have something out by that time that I can dog on). I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that it had become more prominent though, I was worried my hearing was going bad.

[wednesday's child]

I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey.
What next, a live performance at ShoeMart?

Heh, seeing Arnel peforming Journey songs without Journey threw me off, as well.
It's even worse when he does it in duets with other singers...

I think Rick has it right. There's less need to cover an "accent", wherever it actually isnt.
wech


PS: The fuck happened to your other avatars, 'bot???
Bring back Aki!!

[Rick]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

Only because this Karaoke type clip made it on to here. I saw Arnel live and was impressed so I know he had overcome that problem for a time. You don't have to look for the accent here though, it jumps out right at you. i just think because he is home, he is lapsing back into his regular speech pattern. I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey. What next, a live performance at ShoeMart? Anyway he got his through his freshman season alright but I'm expecting a steller effort this time from the whole group with at least 12 new songs (and I mean new as in never been sang by anyone before).

I don't think he's lapsing back. He's singing to his countrymen, he doesn't have to try as hard to cover an accent that they wouldn't hear anyway.

I didn't think he could cover it conciuosly, I thought he had overcome it at least when he's singing, the same way Sheena Easton or Irish singers do it when they perform. You don't know they're Irish until they actually talk when they're not singing. With all the running around he did on stage, I can't imagine him intentionally thinking to cover it when he was performing here in the states. With 80 shows under his belt it shouldn't be an issue when he comes back to perform here in the States again so I'll try to wait before my next critique. ( maybe Perry will have something out by that time that I can dog on). I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that it had become more prominent though, I was worried my hearing was going bad.

[Don]

I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey.
What next, a live performance at ShoeMart?

Heh, seeing Arnel peforming Journey songs without Journey threw me off, as well.
It's even worse when he does it in duets with other singers...

I think Rick has it right. There's less need to cover an "accent", wherever it actually isnt.
wech


PS: The fuck happened to your other avatars, 'bot???
Bring back Aki!!

I'm trying to promote Hayley since the holidays are near, and she has one of those angelic voices that sound so nice.
So the Kiwi will have to stay for the moment.

She is singing "May it be" in my sig

[Liquid_Drummer]

I hav a bad feeling about Arnel's voice. I just dont see him making it in the long haul unless some changes are made. IMHO they got him about 10 years too late as his voice is more like Perry on ROR in the upper registers and on the early material he is really stretching at times. I really dont want to see him end up like Augeri and I think it is safe to say that he would give up his voice for his family in a second and push it till it was broken if that is what he has to do to best provide. He may have been "cold" from not performing but I can tell you this.

He still sings too damn hard and too loud. He will shred his cords that way and it isnt if but when.. In the Zoo he did a few Journey numbers with scatterings of other stuff. Some harder like the Aerosmith and some easier lower register stuff that served as a break. Now he is singing whole concerts in that upper register at 41. I just dont know about their decision. I like Arnel and the new record a lot. Lets just hope that they play less shows than with past singers or Arnel might end up with a chronic throat infection.

Get him a damn coach already !

[MarcelJordan]

I hav a bad feeling about Arnel's voice. I just dont see him making it in the long haul unless some changes are made. IMHO they got him about 10 years too late as his voice is more like Perry on ROR in the upper registers and on the early material he is really stretching at times. I really dont want to see him end up like Augeri and I think it is safe to say that he would give up his voice for his family in a second and push it till it was broken if that is what he has to do to best provide. He may have been "cold" from not performing but I can tell you this.

He still sings too damn hard and too loud. He will shred his cords that way and it isnt if but when.. In the Zoo he did a few Journey numbers with scatterings of other stuff. Some harder like the Aerosmith and some easier lower register stuff that served as a break. Now he is singing whole concerts in that upper register at 41. I just dont know about their decision. I like Arnel and the new record a lot. Lets just hope that they play less shows than with past singers or Arnel might end up with a chronic throat infection.

Get him a damn coach already !

Only Arnel knows whether he's struggling. I don't think we need to worry as he's quite capable to take care of himself. The band seems like their taking care of his needs as well.

[mdaemon]

Good that he is now promoting the Revelation album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvx2opyj1hA

wow.. that was unbelievable.. he was really getting some crazy high notes at the end..

it would really suck to be after Arnel on this show..

...that was what the two hosts (the fit lady and the fairy with a silly wig) were hinting at the end of the clip. You're not Pinoy are you?

no... BUT i do like fish sauce.. no really..

Fish sauce is wicked!

[mdaemon]

Arnel's accent never really went away.
Listen to ALL of his US performances and you'll find it.
...especially if finding it is what you care most about.


Man, I can't believe this is still an issue.
Pigf.....

There seems to be a monitor lag affecting his performance (pacing-wise) in the vid.
I agree he has more rasp in his voice, but its still more like an option, one he can
trot out if/when he wants.

wech

Only because this Karaoke type clip made it on to here. I saw Arnel live and was impressed so I know he had overcome that problem for a time. You don't have to look for the accent here though, it jumps out right at you. i just think because he is home, he is lapsing back into his regular speech pattern. I'll go ahead and chalk up what I call a subpar performance to the type of show he was on but I just see it as too cheesey. What next, a live performance at ShoeMart? Anyway he got his through his freshman season alright but I'm expecting a steller effort this time from the whole group with at least 12 new songs (and I mean new as in never been sang by anyone before).

What's wrong with performing at the 3rd biggest mall in the world? Surely if it's good enough for Alicia Keys, it's good enough for Arnel Pineda.

Arnel Pineda is a Pinoy and when he is in the Philippines, he will sing whatever song and wherever the Pinoys damn well please. Fair enough you want to wait for Steve Perry's work; as for me, I'll just listen to Arnel because he still wants to sing for his fans.

[stevew2]

I ve heard him do it better. i think accent is stronger now that he is home.WHT are the red ballons about.Looked like they were waving big red dicks

I dunno about the red balloons. I sometimes find it strange what Pinoys do...and I am a Pinoy.

do you have a red ballon ?

Why, Did someone steal yours?

I put mine on my stuff:if ya know what i mean"

[Jeremey]

Arnel is in his own element now. We got him for a few months this year. Don't try to second guess what he may be doing half a world away. He isn't Perry or Augeri or JSS for God's sake. He's a 3rd world national who has begun the long decompression back into Filipino culture, and I don't think he anticipates the international eye on everything he does.

The world is a great and mysterious place, and we can't begin to conjecture or pass judgement upon things that would otherwise seem completely foreign to us in our Starbucks, dry cleaners, and Panera worlds.

[stevew2]

Arnel is in his own element now. We got him for a few months this year. Don't try to second guess what he may be doing half a world away. He isn't Perry or Augeri or JSS for God's sake. He's a 3rd world national who has begun the long decompression back into Filipino culture, and I don't think he anticipates the international eye on everything he does.

The world is a great and mysterious place, and we can't begin to conjecture or pass judgement upon things that would otherwise seem completely foreign to us in our Starbucks, dry cleaners, and Panera worlds.

Fuck Starbucks, if im goin to put $4.50 in a drink,Id be damn sure it has some booze in it

[Jeremey]

Arnel is in his own element now. We got him for a few months this year. Don't try to second guess what he may be doing half a world away. He isn't Perry or Augeri or JSS for God's sake. He's a 3rd world national who has begun the long decompression back into Filipino culture, and I don't think he anticipates the international eye on everything he does.

The world is a great and mysterious place, and we can't begin to conjecture or pass judgement upon things that would otherwise seem completely foreign to us in our <b>Sheetz</b>, dry cleaners, and Panera worlds.

Fuck Starbucks, if im goin to put $4.50 in a drink,Id be damn sure it has some booze in it

Edited for SteveW