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Postby S2M » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:24 am

finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:47 am

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finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.
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Postby Rick » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:07 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.


As long as they're sober, not high, when they're working, I couldn't care less what they do in their off time.
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Postby Panther » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:34 am

Rick wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.


As long as they're sober, not high, when they're working, I couldn't care less what they do in their off time.


I'm laughing at the thought subscription that says "if it is made legal, people will just start using." As if the legality would change people's minds somehow. Those that do, will, those that don't.. won't. Simple as that.

And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. If an employer wishes to have a drug use policy (ie... cops, paramedics, 911 operators, firefighters, lawyers {LOL}, etc..) the integrity of their policy will remain intact regardless of any local, state or national law. Besides... It is an extremely rosie world for one who thinks these police, medics, etc... are not amongst the numbers ALREADY smoking (as well as other things).

I'm with you, Rick. Their competency on the job has little to no relation to their "imbibing" in their off time.
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Postby Rick » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:51 am

Panther wrote:
Rick wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.


As long as they're sober, not high, when they're working, I couldn't care less what they do in their off time.


I'm laughing at the thought subscription that says "if it is made legal, people will just start using." As if the legality would change people's minds somehow. Those that do, will, those that don't.. won't. Simple as that.

And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. If an employer wishes to have a drug use policy (ie... cops, paramedics, 911 operators, firefighters, lawyers {LOL}, etc..) the integrity of their policy will remain intact regardless of any local, state or national law. Besides... It is an extremely rosie world for one who thinks these police, medics, etc... are not amongst the numbers ALREADY smoking (as well as other things).

I'm with you, Rick. Their competency on the job has little to no relation to their "imbibing" in their off time.


Thanks for agreeing with me. I owe you lunch. ;) :lol: Where ya been? Haven't seen you in a long time.
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Postby Panther » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:25 pm

Rick wrote:
Panther wrote:
Rick wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.


As long as they're sober, not high, when they're working, I couldn't care less what they do in their off time.


I'm laughing at the thought subscription that says "if it is made legal, people will just start using." As if the legality would change people's minds somehow. Those that do, will, those that don't.. won't. Simple as that.

And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. If an employer wishes to have a drug use policy (ie... cops, paramedics, 911 operators, firefighters, lawyers {LOL}, etc..) the integrity of their policy will remain intact regardless of any local, state or national law. Besides... It is an extremely rosie world for one who thinks these police, medics, etc... are not amongst the numbers ALREADY smoking (as well as other things).

I'm with you, Rick. Their competency on the job has little to no relation to their "imbibing" in their off time.


Thanks for agreeing with me. I owe you lunch. ;) :lol: Where ya been? Haven't seen you in a long time.


Oh... I'm always here. Not that I'm here around the clock, but I do read through daily. I just seem to argue my points more often "out loud" instead of in type. :lol: :lol: Though MiMi has a way of drawing me out. 8)

No worries about the lunch. I hate the 8 hour drive, so you'd have to drive on down here. Now there's an idea.. I owe MiMi a dinner. Get yerself on down here and I'll treat you also!
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Postby Rick » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:44 am

Panther wrote:
Rick wrote:
Panther wrote:
Rick wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:He's also been banned for three months by his governing body. Banned from what you may ask? Well, I can't remember and I doubt he does either!


I don't think these athletes should be held in such high esteem - personally. As athletes, fine. As people who have excelled at something, fine. But they are just normal people otherwise. And they will indulge in whatever fancies them. Weed should be legal. And it isn't because the govt. doesn't make coin from it's sale. It could. Anyway that's my .02.


If it's made legal, then people who smoke pot can be cops, paramedics, 911 dispatchers, firefighters, lawyers, pilots, etc. etc. Would you really want these people to be smoking pot? Not saying some of them don't already, or worse, but the few of them that do, eventually get caught and fired. If one of your family members had to be rushed to the hospital with life threatening injuries, would you like "Cheech & Chong" to be driving the ambulance? Cheech & Chong were not a myth, they were a reality and their stupidity made us laugh. Stupidity was the result of drugs use. Most job applications ask if you smoke pot or if you are willing to take a drug test. Legalize pot and that will be removed from all applications for employment.


As long as they're sober, not high, when they're working, I couldn't care less what they do in their off time.


I'm laughing at the thought subscription that says "if it is made legal, people will just start using." As if the legality would change people's minds somehow. Those that do, will, those that don't.. won't. Simple as that.

And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. If an employer wishes to have a drug use policy (ie... cops, paramedics, 911 operators, firefighters, lawyers {LOL}, etc..) the integrity of their policy will remain intact regardless of any local, state or national law. Besides... It is an extremely rosie world for one who thinks these police, medics, etc... are not amongst the numbers ALREADY smoking (as well as other things).

I'm with you, Rick. Their competency on the job has little to no relation to their "imbibing" in their off time.


Thanks for agreeing with me. I owe you lunch. ;) :lol: Where ya been? Haven't seen you in a long time.


Oh... I'm always here. Not that I'm here around the clock, but I do read through daily. I just seem to argue my points more often "out loud" instead of in type. :lol: :lol: Though MiMi has a way of drawing me out. 8)

No worries about the lunch. I hate the 8 hour drive, so you'd have to drive on down here. Now there's an idea.. I owe MiMi a dinner. Get yerself on down here and I'll treat you also!


Sounds like a deal. ;) :D
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Postby artist4perry » Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:51 am

Young people do dumb stuff. Period. In his case the consequence of his actions are pending. Should we hate him for making mistakes.......no. If getting caught with weed is going to end a career, McCartney would not be such a rich man. Just live and learn. People will just see him as more real now. Complete with feet of clay. :D
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:22 am

Panther wrote:And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. .


When was the last time you applied for a job? I'm talking a real job, one that earns you a decent living. Every job I've applied for asks about drug use and any felony convictions will be grounds for disqualification. Well sure it doesn't matter if applying for a painter position out of someone's home business, a bouncer at a strip club or working for a medical pot club as a sales person probably won't ask those type of questions. Thank God I have morals and respect for my body. Do what you want and believe in...it's your life and your body, not mine. You want to be a stupid pot head or a drug addict, go right ahead. I value life and the quality of good health. When your 65 years old and fucked up, no one to blame but yourself for taking drugs at a time in your life when you thought doing it was o.k.

And Rick, let me ask you, was that pix of Dick taken before or after he blew half his face off with a glass crack pipe...er I mean lighting himself on fire after freebasing? Cause I'm thinking it was before. Yeah, that was one rocket scientist....not so sure he's one of the 10 most successful or one of the 10 must unsuccessful to be honest with you. Perhaps he fits in both catagories, depending on what time of his life we are discussing.
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Postby Panther » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:11 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Panther wrote:And for the record, legality in law does not translate to employment terms. The two are NOT interchangeable. .


When was the last time you applied for a job? I'm talking a real job, one that earns you a decent living. Every job I've applied for asks about drug use and any felony convictions will be grounds for disqualification. Well sure it doesn't matter if applying for a painter position out of someone's home business, a bouncer at a strip club or working for a medical pot club as a sales person probably won't ask those type of questions. Thank God I have morals and respect for my body. Do what you want and believe in...it's your life and your body, not mine. You want to be a stupid pot head or a drug addict, go right ahead. I value life and the quality of good health. When your 65 years old and fucked up, no one to blame but yourself for taking drugs at a time in your life when you thought doing it was o.k.

And Rick, let me ask you, was that pix of Dick taken before or after he blew half his face off with a glass crack pipe...er I mean lighting himself on fire after freebasing? Cause I'm thinking it was before. Yeah, that was one rocket scientist....not so sure he's one of the 10 most successful or one of the 10 must unsuccessful to be honest with you. Perhaps he fits in both catagories, depending on what time of his life we are discussing.



Hence the reason I read more than post. Granted, personal information is not always known, but a lot of posters seem to jump to erroneous assumptions. The last time I applied for a REAL job, you ask. We'll discount my 20 years with the local DA. :wink: So that leaves my last two positions, both of which entail working with children. BOTH indeed inquired into the standard "have you been convicted of a felony, etc..." Frankly, neither job provides a "decent" living, but I do believe they fit YOUR standard for your point.

MY point was/is legality and employment conditions are NOT interchangeable
. Do you really believe if cannabis for general consumption were legalized that same employers as you site would change their pre-employment screening policies? That they would then remove any questions regarding a persons criminal history? Let's get real here, SH. I get that you personally abhor those who smoke (and use other illicit drugs), that you feel they are a waste of space (per se). That's great! That's what personal choice and responsibility is all about. After all, partaking of alcoholic beverage is perfectly legal. Many "professionals" of high standard partake on the job, begin their workdays inebriated from the night before and yes... MANY do break the laws on the books in regard to alcohol by getting into their vehicle and driving home from that business meeting, conference, etc. I suppose it is a situation of pick your poison. Which I think is what many in this thread were trying to get at.

In the end, I'll just say that I don't smoke weed, I don't partake of any illicit drugs and heck, I'm doing good to have a beer to two a year these days. It's got nothing to do with my morals or values or holding my body as a temple. It's merely my personal choice.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:23 am

Panther wrote:[ We'll discount my 20 years with the local DA. :wink:


Oh yeah.....Well I'm very proud of you....for which city/government agency?

And as for the pre-employment screening......people themselves applying for the positions would attempt to have those type of questions removed from the screening process altogether. Those questions are there cause the use of drugs is illigal, making them legal would then remove those questions from the hiring process.
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:44 am

Panther wrote:[

Hence the reason I read more than post. Granted, personal information is not always known, but a lot of posters seem to jump to erroneous assumptions. .
I was just pointing that out in another thread. :wink: 8)
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