Question about Neal Schon

[S2M]

Time for my wrench....Prince is JUST as talented a guitarist as Neal.

Take That!

[Jubilee]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

I don't think the question of technical ability is impossible to answer. Of course, it would require a side-by-side comparison of two (or more) subjects in a controlled environment. Is it likely we'll ever get Neal Schon and any other guitarist in a room each playing the same piece of music for comparison? Highly unlikely, but not impossible.

[steveo777]

Neal can play Eruption. I just haven't found proof of him doing so anywhere.....but I'm still looking.

[Gideon]

Time for my wrench....Prince is JUST as talented a guitarist as Neal.

Take That!

Psh. We all know you dislike Neal, you bastard. You think we weren't expecting such a claim?!

On a side note, I saw Prince on Jay Leno last night and he kicked some serious ass. But boy does he look gay. Especially with the heels, golden outfit, weird ass earings. He looked like he raided Princess Leia's closet.

[Don]

Neal can play Eruption. I just haven't found proof of him doing so anywhere.....but I'm still looking.

Why would he? Imitating is one thing, creating is where true talent lays.

[S2M]

Time for my wrench....Prince is JUST as talented a guitarist as Neal.

Take That!

Psh. We all know you dislike Neal, you bastard. You think we weren't expecting such a claim?!

On a side note, I saw Prince on Jay Leno last night and he kicked some serious ass. But boy does he look gay. Especially with the heels, golden outfit, weird ass earings. He looked like he raided Princess Leia's closet.

Just because I don't kneel at the alter of all things journey doesn't mean I hate the guy.

[Gideon]

Time for my wrench....Prince is JUST as talented a guitarist as Neal.

Take That!

Psh. We all know you dislike Neal, you bastard. You think we weren't expecting such a claim?!

On a side note, I saw Prince on Jay Leno last night and he kicked some serious ass. But boy does he look gay. Especially with the heels, golden outfit, weird ass earings. He looked like he raided Princess Leia's closet.

Just because I don't kneel at the alter of all things journey doesn't mean I hate the guy.

S2M, it seems I underestimated your ability to take a joke.

Edit: I meant overestimated.

[bluejeangirl76]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

[NealIsGod]

Time for my wrench....Prince is JUST as talented a guitarist as Neal.

Take That!

[FishinMagician]

i think neal could easily play eruption . he is a pretty good finger tapper and doesn't overuse the the technique which is also good. he definatly has the speed for it. I would say the only trouble he might have is keeping in time , as he tends to rush alot of fast stuff. but yes he could do it!

[Gideon]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

[Rick]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

[bluejeangirl76]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

Ask a Star Trek dork. Means "unsolvable problem" or "no win situation".

[Gideon]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

Ask a Star Trek dork. Means "unsolvable problem" or "no win situation".

It seems I have made my own revelation.

Bluejeangirl, I hereby dub you Dork-Queen of Dorkonia.

[Don]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

Valerie or Lori?

[Gideon]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

Valerie or Lori?

Lori. Easily. But Valerie is fine as all get out, too.

[bluejeangirl76]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

Ask a Star Trek dork. Means "unsolvable problem" or "no win situation".

It seems I have made my own revelation.

Bluejeangirl, I hereby dub you Dork-Queen of Dorkonia.

I've been called worse. But I'm not a Star Trek Dork.

(just a regular dork)

[S2M]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

Ask a Star Trek dork. Means "unsolvable problem" or "no win situation".

It seems I have made my own revelation.

Bluejeangirl, I hereby dub you Dork-Queen of Dorkonia.

I've been called worse. But I'm not a Star Trek Dork.

(just a regular dork)

Maybe a Friends/All in the Family Dork?

[Gideon]

Impossible question. I don't think it can be answered.

It's the kobayashi maru.

I have no idea what that means.

Ask a Star Trek dork. Means "unsolvable problem" or "no win situation".

It seems I have made my own revelation.

Bluejeangirl, I hereby dub you Dork-Queen of Dorkonia.

I've been called worse. But I'm not a Star Trek Dork.

(just a regular dork)

The Dork is strong with this one.

[bluejeangirl76]

I've been called worse. But I'm not a Star Trek Dork.

(just a regular dork)

Maybe a Friends/All in the Family Dork?

You're right! Friends is where I picked up "kobayashi maru".

[Rick]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

Valerie or Lori?

I don't know what Lori looks like. I have always thought VB was one of those people who are beautiful, inside and out. That's hard to beat.

[S2M]

I've been called worse. But I'm not a Star Trek Dork.

(just a regular dork)

Maybe a Friends/All in the Family Dork?

You're right! Friends is where I picked up "kobayashi maru".

I've seen Wrath of Khan....kthx.

[Jana]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

Valerie or Lori?

I don't know what Lori looks like. I have always thought VB was one of those people who are beautiful, inside and out. That's hard to beat.

Ah, that was so sweet, Rick, a man of substance. You wouldn't have liked Lori, anyway. She looks like a beautiful Playboy centerfold.

On Journey Music, under Links she's listed under site design or layout and has photos and some of her music.

[steveo777]

EVH is incredible. Neal is incredible. They both play different styles of guitar, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Nobody does a pull-off better than EVH, but then nobody can make their lead fit the song like a glove any better than Neal. They both have strengths in different aspects of playing. I prefer Neal over Eddie.

Valerie or Lori?

I don't know what Lori looks like. I have always thought VB was one of those people who are beautiful, inside and out. That's hard to beat.

I have Lori in this thread in the happy Journey family picture, next to Neal. Now, answer this, hot or not?

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... c&start=30

[Don]

I'm all about Valerie, I can see a picture of her with that feathered hair and instantly hear Bon Jovi music playing inside my head.

Remember days of skipping school
Racing cars and being cool
With a six pack and the radio
We didn't need no place to go

[DrFU]

Neal can definitely play Eruption with ease. Eruption, AT THE TIME IT CAME OUT, was pretty daunting because hardly any one knew that Eddie was tapping those arpeggios. Today, Eruption is still cool, but an insurmountable technical tour de force? Definitely not.

Technically speaking, Neal buttfucks Hendrix too. And Neal's not even the most technical of guitar players. Hendrix was innovative, soulful, and a great player in his own right, but I don't think he could play a lot of the shit Neal's played over the years. The one thing that stands out about Neal and possibly limits him is that he mostly sticks to using his index, middle, and ring fingers. I rarely, if ever see him use his pinky and that might hold him back from pulling off some real shred gymnastics, like crazy sweeps, but hey, he still can play some great fast runs and his overall style is great as is. If I want to hear someone more technical, I'll go throw Dream Theater or whoever on.

Jimi died at 28; who knows what he'd have been able to do with 30 more years of practice ...

[MBPL]

I debate on other forums (and on more topics than just music), and on one such occasion, I was pitted against an individual by the username of Alpha Centauri, narcissist extraordinaire. The subject was "your favorite guitarist" and I posted some clips and some facts about Neal Schon. The long and short of it is that this guy and myself end up in a sixty page argument on the talent of Neal Schon. His argument was that "greatness" equates to skill; that Jimi Hendrix, being the greatest guitarist of all time, can do things with a guitar that Neal Schon never could. And so on and so forth for Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, and so forth. Because Neal Schon is not a household name, there are countless guitarists who are better than he is in every way.

Now, this debate long since ended, as Alpha Centauri has a lot more stamina for arguing than even myself. But I was just thinking and wondering how talented Neal Schon really is.

Say, for example, "Eruption." Does Neal Schon lack the physical capability (e.g. speed, dexterity, what have you) to play "Eruption"? (AC masturbated over that one).

Note this is not a question about subjective talents, i.e. sense of melody or the singing guitar, but purely about technical skills.

I cant’ do comparisons like saying "Hendricks is better than Prince who is better than Neal." And I cannot speak technically, like, "Neal can or cannot play Eruption," because I am not a skilled musician or a music connoisseur. I just like what I like when it moves me.

So, in my nappy-ass, big boobied opinion, I think Neal Schon is talented and should be considered one of the great guitar players of all time because, well first of all HE CAN PLAY AN INSTRUMENT AND I CAN'T!

Seriously, two reaons: Passion and Recognition.

Recognition. Within the structure of Journey, Neal held his own with solos and great guitar work that made the Journey guitar sound, for me, recognizable. And he was very fast and his sound, I can actually tell Neal’s playing by the way his fingers caressed the neck of his guitar! If I did not hear Neal’s guitar in Journey it was not Journey. It’s like knowing the difference between a Claude Monet painting and an Edouard Manet painting, you just know based on their wonderful and consistent work.

Passion. Neal is passionate when he plays like Eddie Van Halen. God, I used to love watching Eddie in videos! They both played with such wild abandonment! Neal’s facial expressions and the way he moves with his guitar, well it looks like he is communicating not just to his audience, but to his instrument, guitar that is. The way he communicates makes me, a fan, feel like I am getting the best of both worlds: a prolific artist and a passionate man. Neal shows how much he loves what he does. BTW, for most women, watching a man express himself with wonderful unabashed abandonment is like magic. At least for me it is. Never mind that he is not the one-name wonder like Hendricks, Clapton, Van Halen or Santana, I believe Neal Schon IS talented and should be considered one of the greatest guitarists around.

[StoneCold]

this is also the guy who tried to tell me that Geddy Lee was a more technically skilled singer than Steve Perry.

Funny you say that. And I don't agree, but some of the vocalizations are similar at certain specific moments. And no blasting... I'm not about to say either sounds like the other, but a couple times I've been caught going "holy crap that reminded me a whole lot of Perry."

Geddy has a bigger nose so who nose?

[Gideon]

I debate on other forums (and on more topics than just music), and on one such occasion, I was pitted against an individual by the username of Alpha Centauri, narcissist extraordinaire. The subject was "your favorite guitarist" and I posted some clips and some facts about Neal Schon. The long and short of it is that this guy and myself end up in a sixty page argument on the talent of Neal Schon. His argument was that "greatness" equates to skill; that Jimi Hendrix, being the greatest guitarist of all time, can do things with a guitar that Neal Schon never could. And so on and so forth for Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, and so forth. Because Neal Schon is not a household name, there are countless guitarists who are better than he is in every way.

Now, this debate long since ended, as Alpha Centauri has a lot more stamina for arguing than even myself. But I was just thinking and wondering how talented Neal Schon really is.

Say, for example, "Eruption." Does Neal Schon lack the physical capability (e.g. speed, dexterity, what have you) to play "Eruption"? (AC masturbated over that one).

Note this is not a question about subjective talents, i.e. sense of melody or the singing guitar, but purely about technical skills.

I cant’ do comparisons like saying "Hendricks is better than Prince who is better than Neal." And I cannot speak technically, like, "Neal can or cannot play Eruption," because I am not a skilled musician or a music connoisseur. I just like what I like when it moves me.

So, in my nappy-ass, big boobied opinion, but I think Neal Schon is talented and should be considered one of the great guitar players of all time because, well first of all HE CAN PLAY AN INSTRUMENT AND I CAN'T!

Seriously, two reaons: Passion and Recognition.

Recognition. Within the structure of Journey, Neal held his own with solos and great guitar work that made the Journey guitar sound, for me, recognizable. And he was very fast and his sound, I can actually tell Neal’s playing by the way his fingers caressed the neck of his guitar! If I did not hear Neal’s guitar in Journey it was not Journey. It’s like knowing the difference between a Claude Monet painting and an Edouard Manet painting, you just know based on their wonderful and consistent work.

Passion. Neal is passionate when he plays like Eddie Van Halen. God, I used to love watching Eddie in videos! They both played with such wild abandonment! Neal’s facial expressions and the way he moves with his guitar, well it looks like he is communicating not just to his audience, but to his instrument, guitar that is. The way he communicates makes me, a fan, feel like I am getting the best of both worlds: a prolific artist and a passionate man. Neal shows how much he loves what he does. BTW, for most women, watching a man express himself with wonderful unabashed abandonment is like magic. At least for me it is. Never mind that he is not the one-name wonder like Hendricks, Clapton, Van Halen or Santana, I believe Neal Schon IS talented and should be considered one of the greatest guitarists around.

Good enough for me. Probably the best answer yet.

[MBPL]

I debate on other forums (and on more topics than just music), and on one such occasion, I was pitted against an individual by the username of Alpha Centauri, narcissist extraordinaire. The subject was "your favorite guitarist" and I posted some clips and some facts about Neal Schon. The long and short of it is that this guy and myself end up in a sixty page argument on the talent of Neal Schon. His argument was that "greatness" equates to skill; that Jimi Hendrix, being the greatest guitarist of all time, can do things with a guitar that Neal Schon never could. And so on and so forth for Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai, and so forth. Because Neal Schon is not a household name, there are countless guitarists who are better than he is in every way.

Now, this debate long since ended, as Alpha Centauri has a lot more stamina for arguing than even myself. But I was just thinking and wondering how talented Neal Schon really is.

Say, for example, "Eruption." Does Neal Schon lack the physical capability (e.g. speed, dexterity, what have you) to play "Eruption"? (AC masturbated over that one).

Note this is not a question about subjective talents, i.e. sense of melody or the singing guitar, but purely about technical skills.

I cant’ do comparisons like saying "Hendricks is better than Prince who is better than Neal." And I cannot speak technically, like, "Neal can or cannot play Eruption," because I am not a skilled musician or a music connoisseur. I just like what I like when it moves me.

So, in my nappy-ass, big boobied opinion, but I think Neal Schon is talented and should be considered one of the great guitar players of all time because, well first of all HE CAN PLAY AN INSTRUMENT AND I CAN'T!

Seriously, two reaons: Passion and Recognition.

Recognition. Within the structure of Journey, Neal held his own with solos and great guitar work that made the Journey guitar sound, for me, recognizable. And he was very fast and his sound, I can actually tell Neal’s playing by the way his fingers caressed the neck of his guitar! If I did not hear Neal’s guitar in Journey it was not Journey. It’s like knowing the difference between a Claude Monet painting and an Edouard Manet painting, you just know based on their wonderful and consistent work.

Passion. Neal is passionate when he plays like Eddie Van Halen. God, I used to love watching Eddie in videos! They both played with such wild abandonment! Neal’s facial expressions and the way he moves with his guitar, well it looks like he is communicating not just to his audience, but to his instrument, guitar that is. The way he communicates makes me, a fan, feel like I am getting the best of both worlds: a prolific artist and a passionate man. Neal shows how much he loves what he does. BTW, for most women, watching a man express himself with wonderful unabashed abandonment is like magic. At least for me it is. Never mind that he is not the one-name wonder like Hendricks, Clapton, Van Halen or Santana, I believe Neal Schon IS talented and should be considered one of the greatest guitarists around.

[b]Ooops, I just read that part. Oh well, just skip my part if you can't bare the ramblings of a crazy, dyslexic woman who knows nothing about techical stuff and shit. Some women do, though, just not me.