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Postby Andrew » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:25 pm

Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:
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Postby RedWingFan » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:34 pm

T-Bone wrote:Regarding Adrenalize, It sounded to me like stuff that didn't make it onto Hysteria. There were a few good tracks, but that's it. I liked Retroactive, hated Slang and really liked Euphoria, and then nothing after that. Somgs from The Sparkle Lounge has a few good moments, but it's mostly forgettable

Dude, how can you NOT like "Scar" off of "X"? That song now rivals "Hysteria" as my favorite Lep song. :D
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Postby RedWingFan » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:36 pm

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JSS Rocks! wrote:Weezer
Radiohead
Green Day
Pearl Jam
Sound Garden
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Creed
Smashing Pumpkins.

I think you just totally proved Joe's great point. The (mid-late) 90's sucked ASS!

About the only band I listen to from the 90's are The Wallflowers!!! What do you think of them Andrew?
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Postby Eric » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:18 pm

Sarah wrote:Wow, lots of people in this thread sounding stuck in the 80s. "Music just ain't what it used to be!"

Pearl Jam, Third Eye Blind, Alanis, Green Day, Sublime, No Doubt, Oasis as mentioned, and a ton of little one hit wonders many people in their early/mid twenties would smile with nostalgia if they heard.


Awful reminder of a dark and flannely time. Thankfully...its dead.
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Postby madsplash » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:19 pm

Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:



Very well said, Sir Wombat. You speaketh the truth. The 90's was the worst musical decade ever, BY FAR.
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:25 am

Carla777 wrote:I'm more an 80' girl, but i must say i do love some bands from the early 90' too..there is some new great bands in the metal escene now, but in general the mtv bands are pure crap :? so i agree with J. Elliott
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Postby Greg » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:45 am

I grew up in the 80's, love 80's music and always will. However, as we move further from the 90's, I have grown to appreciate what the 90's music brought us. There were plenty of one hit wonder bands in the 80's as well, by the way. The thing is, 80's music, particularly the hairband scene, was waiting for someone, something to come by and put it out of its misery. Everybody sounded like everybody else, which got mighty boring toward the beginning of the 90's. The only regret is that bands like Extreme and Damn Yankees didn't have many years to really build into great bands since their scene was killed by grunge shortly after their creation. But, to say that 90's music lacked melody is kind of a stupid thing to say. Maybe not the hooks that 80's AOR bands are known for, but 90's music had melody...just a different kind of melody.

I'm sure a lot of 60's and 70's music lovers would probably say the same thing about 80's music. I think it really depends on what you grew up around and who influenced you the most. As I have gotten old, I have learned to appreciate anything that sounds good to me, whether if it is AOR music from the 80's, 90's alternative, music from today, etc.... if it sounds good to me and keeps my attention, I'll listen to it.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:12 am

Greg wrote:I grew up in the 80's, love 80's music and always will. However, as we move further from the 90's, I have grown to appreciate what the 90's music brought us. There were plenty of one hit wonder bands in the 80's as well, by the way. The thing is, 80's music, particularly the hairband scene, was waiting for someone, something to come by and put it out of its misery. Everybody sounded like everybody else, which got mighty boring toward the beginning of the 90's. The only regret is that bands like Extreme and Damn Yankees didn't have many years to really build into great bands since their scene was killed by grunge shortly after their creation. But, to say that 90's music lacked melody is kind of a stupid thing to say. Maybe not the hooks that 80's AOR bands are known for, but 90's music had melody...just a different kind of melody.

I'm sure a lot of 60's and 70's music lovers would probably say the same thing about 80's music. I think it really depends on what you grew up around and who influenced you the most. As I have gotten old, I have learned to appreciate anything that sounds good to me, whether if it is AOR music from the 80's, 90's alternative, music from today, etc.... if it sounds good to me and keeps my attention, I'll listen to it.


Right on... I myself love a lot of music from the 60s-90s. For sure, the overall amount of good music was far greater in the 60s-80s period, but the 90s gets lumped in with grunge and that's all wrong. There was excellent power pop coming out of the era and grunge was a far too sweeping label. To me, good grunge like Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Alice In Chains have little in common with Nirvana musically (lyrically might be a different story, but I listen for music more).

I find it hard to like modern stuff that gets airplay for the most part that isn't coming from a band from one of those decades... and I grew up in the 90s. I do think there's a generational bias for all of it now that I watch all the "kiddies" running around to the flavor of the week. But you have to be able to know a good song when you hear it, whether it was recorded in 1969 or 2009. One thing's for sure, I don't like rap regardless of which era it came from... and that's the dominant commercial music today unfortunately.
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Postby Sarah » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:37 am

Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS.

And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.
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Postby Voyager » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:43 am

Andrew wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:
Weezer
Radiohead
Green Day
Pearl Jam
Sound Garden
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Creed
Smashing Pumpkins.


I think you just totally proved Joe's great point. The (mid-late) 90's sucked ASS!


I totally agree. The 80's was the decade of melodic rock. The 90's was the decade of anger rock.

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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:06 am

Sarah wrote:Wow, lots of people in this thread sounding stuck in the 80s. "Music just ain't what it used to be!"

Well I grew up in the 90s, and I still love 90s music, and I know plenty of people my age who do too. The decade was not shit and I'm pretty sure it wasn't disappointing for the people who grew up in it, unless their earliest memory is Backstreet Boys. Obviously I like Pearl Jam but I was only 6 when they hit it big, so I'm talking more like Third Eye Blind, Alanis, Green Day, Sublime, No Doubt, Oasis as mentioned, and a ton of little one hit wonders many people in their early/mid twenties would smile with nostalgia if they heard. Recently in Sacramento they made a 90s radio station (though sadly it replaced the only good rock station there) and I know quite a few people including myself who listen to it.


My son is growing up in the 2000's and he thinks the "music just ain't what it used to be" Yes, my 15 year old son said those words to me recently :shock: :lol: And I am no influence on that, because he actually doesn't like the 80's and skips my favorite decade. He goes back to the 60's, 70's and the only thing he thinks was worth it in the 90's was early 90's. He does find current music here or there that he likes, but he's really picky. Maybe because he is a musician and I am not he is hearing different things than I am in music. Not everyone likes their own decade though. And not every young person loves what they hear now. He's bitter at 15 :lol:
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:22 am

Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS.

And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:33 am

Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS.

And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.


I mean, come on, I fuckin love 80s music, but some of it deserved to be made fun of! Look at all those old photos :lol:

That said, I sure wish I was in my prime during the 80s and not shittin in diapers.
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Postby Sarah » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:38 am

Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.

Sorry, but that's sad.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:46 am

Hmmm...I like Bush (the band and the fur burger variety :lol: :twisted: ), Pearl Jam had grown on me immensely and I love(d) Alice In Chains. But that's about it...off the top of my head.
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Postby weatherman90 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:34 am

Saint John wrote:Hmmm...I like Bush (the band and the fur burger variety :lol: :twisted: ), Pearl Jam had grown on me immensely and I love(d) Alice In Chains. But that's about it...off the top of my head.


I don't mind Alice in Chains either. Their songs at least had guitar solos.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:39 am

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Saint John wrote:Hmmm...I like Bush (the band and the fur burger variety :lol: :twisted: ), Pearl Jam had grown on me immensely and I love(d) Alice In Chains. But that's about it...off the top of my head.


I don't mind Alice in Chains either. Their songs at least had guitar solos.


As well as excellent harmony vocals between Jerry Cantrell and Layne Staley. I'm not always in the mood for the depressing themes, but they had plenty of talent and knew how to craft a song.
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Postby Glenn » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:18 am

Greg wrote:I grew up in the 80's, love 80's music and always will. However, as we move further from the 90's, I have grown to appreciate what the 90's music brought us. There were plenty of one hit wonder bands in the 80's as well, by the way. The thing is, 80's music, particularly the hairband scene, was waiting for someone, something to come by and put it out of its misery. Everybody sounded like everybody else, which got mighty boring toward the beginning of the 90's. The only regret is that bands like Extreme and Damn Yankees didn't have many years to really build into great bands since their scene was killed by grunge shortly after their creation. But, to say that 90's music lacked melody is kind of a stupid thing to say. Maybe not the hooks that 80's AOR bands are known for, but 90's music had melody...just a different kind of melody.

I'm sure a lot of 60's and 70's music lovers would probably say the same thing about 80's music. I think it really depends on what you grew up around and who influenced you the most. As I have gotten old, I have learned to appreciate anything that sounds good to me, whether if it is AOR music from the 80's, 90's alternative, music from today, etc.... if it sounds good to me and keeps my attention, I'll listen to it.


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Postby Glenn » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:19 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS.

And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.


I mean, come on, I fuckin love 80s music, but some of it deserved to be made fun of! Look at all those old photos :lol:

That said, I sure wish I was in my prime during the 80s and not shittin in diapers.



What's just as funny is when I see 80's girls with 80's hair....Boggles the mind
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Postby Glenn » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:23 am

weatherman90 wrote:
Saint John wrote:Hmmm...I like Bush (the band and the fur burger variety :lol: :twisted: ), Pearl Jam had grown on me immensely and I love(d) Alice In Chains. But that's about it...off the top of my head.


I don't mind Alice in Chains either. Their songs at least had guitar solos.


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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:52 am

There is a fair few folk on this site who are sounding like the adults they probably hated when they were teenagers in the 70s and 80s, "Ooo music in my day was the real stuff, not like this mumbo jumbo jargon you have now.. no one will remember these bands in 20 years time" etc etc.

Saying that the 90s sucked is just silly. One hit wonders? The 80s was full of them. Or that "grunge killed the 80s"?... 1990 killed the 80s! Ok, I wasnt around at the time.. but surely people were getting bored of faceless big haired bands and guitar solos overall?

I love 80s rock music with a passion, but the world of music doesnt end there. The 90s had some great bands which will stick around in people's heads for years to come.

And even now there is some great, new, FRESH, melodic bands out there:

Red Jumpsuit Parade
Anberlin
Shinedown
Hinder
LostProphets
Funeral for a Friend

Go look them up.

Some people here need to look at what they are saying and realise they have become their parents. 8)
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:59 am

Sarah wrote:
Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.

Sorry, but that's sad.


No. One of the bits this one piece of shit grunge station played was a clip of Separate Ways with the tagline: "We don't play this crap". Well, that CRAP is still being played to cheering crowds, while the real crap that station played is long dead and buried.

Grunge=Dark, negative
Melodicrock=Energy, positive

Alice in Chains was wrongly classified as a grunge band...by the way
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:01 am

Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Eric wrote:
Sarah wrote:And I do love 80s music and 70s music, that should be obvious if I like Journey so much. If I was choosing between an 80s hits radio station, a 90s hits station, and a current top 40 station, I'd be flipping between all three. It just sounds like half the people in this thread are too bitter that their glory days music didn't last forever, no music trend does. Greg is right, it's what you grew up around. But that doesn't mean you have to automatically feel negative about whatever replaces it.


When grunge arrived on scene....the people involved with it, the radio stations, etc. were arrogant punks. The entire scene was based on negativity and 80's rock was made fun of. I endured it...and will now spend the rest of my life exacting revenge on grunge.

Sorry, but that's sad.


No. One of the bits this one piece of shit grunge station played was a clip of Separate Ways with the tagline: "We don't play this crap". Well, that CRAP is still being played to cheering crowds, while the real crap that station played is long dead and buried.

Grunge=Dark, negative
Melodicrock=Energy, positive

Alice in Chains was wrongly classified as a grunge band...by the way


I bet you would say "I dont play that crap" when someone mentions grunge....
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:05 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Andrew wrote:
JSS Rocks! wrote:Weezer
Radiohead
Green Day
Pearl Jam
Sound Garden
Nirvana
Alice In Chains
Creed
Smashing Pumpkins.

I think you just totally proved Joe's great point. The (mid-late) 90's sucked ASS!

About the only band I listen to from the 90's are The Wallflowers!!! What do you think of them Andrew?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19DqyxJFwZc


Yeah, they were ok...got cut short though. Another one hit wonder that should have been given more time by their label. Typical of today's thinking...
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:08 am

Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS..


No argument there at all. But what the 80s had and the 70s also, VS the 90s is bands that lasted the distance. Real rock bands with multiple albums and a catalogue they could tour off....and dare I say....a sound and style that outlasted fads like grunge...and lives on today.

Classic Rock is bands from the last 60s, 70s and 80s....there are barely any classic rock bands from the 90s. Barely any good bands at all :)
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:11 am

Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS..


No argument there at all. But what the 80s had and the 70s also, VS the 90s is bands that lasted the distance. Real rock bands with multiple albums and a catalogue they could tour off....and dare I say....a sound and style that outlasted fads like grunge...and lives on today.
Classic Rock is bands from the last 60s, 70s and 80s....there are barely any classic rock bands from the 90s. Barely any good bands at all :)


At least music has come full circle (in Britain at least) and is back to rock music (actually we have had about 10 years of decent rock music and now it's turning to electro power pop.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:11 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote: Ok, I wasnt around at the time.. but surely people were getting bored of faceless big haired bands and guitar solos overall?


Er, it appears NOT! :roll:

That's why the only bands out there on the road doing great business are CLASSIC rock bands fromt he 70s and 80s.

As for your list of NEW bands - well that has nothing to do with the 90s. There are some GREAT new bands around thank God, but will the industry as we know it allow them to develop as they wqould have done in the past, before the bands get frustrated and call it quits. I hope so....some great talent around now.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:13 am

Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Sarah wrote:a ton of little one hit wonders.....


That line says it all...one hit wonders. All dead and burried. And who's out on the road pleasing fans and still kicking ass - REAL bands from the 80s :)

Oh, BTW - If you had lived thru the 80s, you wouldn't love the 90s so much!! :twisted:

The 80s had tons of one hit wonders! TONS..


No argument there at all. But what the 80s had and the 70s also, VS the 90s is bands that lasted the distance. Real rock bands with multiple albums and a catalogue they could tour off....and dare I say....a sound and style that outlasted fads like grunge...and lives on today.

Classic Rock is bands from the last 60s, 70s and 80s....there are barely any classic rock bands from the 90s. Barely any good bands at all :)


Andrew, the only thing I'll say is that I don't really believe enough time has passed to determine if 90s bands will stand the test of time. Journey was gone for 10 years for instance and now look at them. I think there is just now starting to be a resurgence as those who really grew up as kids in the 90s, like myself, are reaching their mid twenties and starting to pine for the music we remember staying up all night watching MTV or even crazier, taping cassettes off the radio!

Maybe that means the ones that are still alive will be around someday in the mid future, maybe Napster and the MP3 will just mean music and longevity for bands will never be like what it was. Who knows. But I think it's too early to say that none of them were "good enough" to stand the test of time.

People were saying the same thing about most of the bands we love and talk about around here.
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:13 am

weatherman90 wrote:
Saint John wrote:Hmmm...I like Bush (the band and the fur burger variety :lol: :twisted: ), Pearl Jam had grown on me immensely and I love(d) Alice In Chains. But that's about it...off the top of my head.


I don't mind Alice in Chains either. Their songs at least had guitar solos.


First album was pretty good. Intense...I remember really digging it at the time for something different (as there was too many cheap and nasty copycat bands around).
Sadly the labels at the time went out and signed 412 other crap bands trying to emulate the original sound PJ and AIC had. The result? Utter failure...and the almost instant death of all rock bands - the ones that partially deserved it and a ton that didn't (who thankfully all lived through it and are back in action today).

New Winger album October :)
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:15 am

StevePerryHair wrote: He goes back to the 60's, 70's


That's pretty cool...as long as they dig it and it's real music, more power to them!
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