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Postby Voyager » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:30 pm

steveo777 wrote:
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Onestepper wrote:I think some of you are missing the point as to why people think the guy should find his own identity. So re-read the thread, close your eyes, and think really really hard. Then go eat a bagel. You'll feel better.


It's basically the same reason people think Arnel should find his own identity. Different faces, same argument. You may as well tell Jeremey to do some soul-searching to find himself while you're at it.

8)


Sigh....some people will never get it. Here is a clue.........Arnel works for the real band, penis hole. Arnel has his own identity and dose not dress, move or act like SP. He channels the familiar sound of SP on the classics because that is what people come to hear. Listen to the Revelation material. AP doesn't sound like SP, except a hint of legacy sound. So, I guess Journey actually plays a tribute to themselves...oh wait...key word alert...themselves Who is themselves? Oh, Journey...almost forgot. :roll: :lol: :twisted:


Get a clue and wake up to reality. Arnel emulates Steve Perry's voice note-for-note, syllable-for-syllable, and reflects even the most detailed vocal nuance that Steve Perry sang. So what if he doesn't look and act like Perry? It's still an impersonation of Steve Perry any way you look at it. Arnel and Hugo are in the same league.

Some people seem to live and die by whatever Neal Schon says. When Neal says, "Oh no, that would be too weird having Hugo in Journey. He looks and acts too much like Steve Perry. That would be freaky." Then he goes on YouTube and finds someone who is a Steve Perry soundalike - and even goes as far as re-recording the classic Journey/Perry songs to show the world how great of a Steve Perry impersonator is. Huh????

Let's face it folks... Elvis has left the building, and he ain't coming back. Regardless of who tries to fill his shoes, they will all be labelled impersonators.

8)
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:01 pm

Voyager wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Onestepper wrote:I think some of you are missing the point as to why people think the guy should find his own identity. So re-read the thread, close your eyes, and think really really hard. Then go eat a bagel. You'll feel better.


It's basically the same reason people think Arnel should find his own identity. Different faces, same argument. You may as well tell Jeremey to do some soul-searching to find himself while you're at it.

8)


Sigh....some people will never get it. Here is a clue.........Arnel works for the real band, penis hole. Arnel has his own identity and dose not dress, move or act like SP. He channels the familiar sound of SP on the classics because that is what people come to hear. Listen to the Revelation material. AP doesn't sound like SP, except a hint of legacy sound. So, I guess Journey actually plays a tribute to themselves...oh wait...key word alert...themselves Who is themselves? Oh, Journey...almost forgot. :roll: :lol: :twisted:


Get a clue and wake up to reality. Arnel emulates Steve Perry's voice note-for-note, syllable-for-syllable, and reflects even the most detailed vocal nuance that Steve Perry sang. So what if he doesn't look and act like Perry? It's still an impersonation of Steve Perry any way you look at it. Arnel and Hugo are in the same league.


If you are talking pure vocal style and not stage presence (which is a whole other can of worms), I'd say Arnel's vocal has very little in common with Perry. Put ANY singer in charge of the Journey catalogue, and unless you totally change the vocal melodies, you are going to be emulating Perry. The only differences will be the vocal tone, which will be different from person to person.

Out of all the singers, I'd say JSS was BY FAR the closest to sounding like Perry. Having a bunch of the same influences on the vocal style (namely Sam Cooke) is the main reason. You hear Sam Cooke quite frequently in his original material. The vocal tone is quite different, but the phrasing and style is much the same. Augeri has quite a bit of the Robert Plant sound in his vocal style and delivery, and on the subject of Arnel....I don't think he has done enough recording of original material to develop a distinctive vocal style, or maybe he's just a chameleon, or a combination of both.

If you take the Hugo solo material and take the "high tenor Journey sound" out of it, there is very little Perry in there. I don't hear much--if ANY--Cooke in Hugo's style, and it's all over the Perry vocal melodies. I don't hear any Cooke whatsoever in Arnel either. Sure, they both sound somewhat like Perry on the Journey material, but any high-tenor is going to have that "Perry-sound" (ie high soaring vocals) on Journey material.





Voyager wrote:Some people seem to live and die by whatever Neal Schon says. When Neal says, "Oh no, that would be too weird having Hugo in Journey. He looks and acts too much like Steve Perry. That would be freaky." Then he goes on YouTube and finds someone who is a Steve Perry soundalike - and even goes as far as re-recording the classic Journey/Perry songs to show the world how great of a Steve Perry impersonator is. Huh????

Let's face it folks... Elvis has left the building, and he ain't coming back. Regardless of who tries to fill his shoes, they will all be labelled impersonators.

8)

:roll: :lol:



I think the comment has MUCH more to do with Hugo's physical resemblance, and his VERY Perry-inspired--if not downright copied--stage presence. That might work in a tribute band where you are intentionally trying to suggest that singer X is onstage. It doesn't work so well in the actual band that is now minus singer X. Just for that, I wouldn't pick him for Journey either. It has NOTHING to do with his voice--it's the other stuff.

Give Arnel his due. Vocal qualities aside, he doesn't look--or act--like Perry onstage.
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Postby parfait » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:04 pm

Voyager wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Onestepper wrote:I think some of you are missing the point as to why people think the guy should find his own identity. So re-read the thread, close your eyes, and think really really hard. Then go eat a bagel. You'll feel better.


It's basically the same reason people think Arnel should find his own identity. Different faces, same argument. You may as well tell Jeremey to do some soul-searching to find himself while you're at it.

8)


Sigh....some people will never get it. Here is a clue.........Arnel works for the real band, penis hole. Arnel has his own identity and dose not dress, move or act like SP. He channels the familiar sound of SP on the classics because that is what people come to hear. Listen to the Revelation material. AP doesn't sound like SP, except a hint of legacy sound. So, I guess Journey actually plays a tribute to themselves...oh wait...key word alert...themselves Who is themselves? Oh, Journey...almost forgot. :roll: :lol: :twisted:


Get a clue and wake up to reality. Arnel emulates Steve Perry's voice note-for-note, syllable-for-syllable, and reflects even the most detailed vocal nuance that Steve Perry sang. So what if he doesn't look and act like Perry? It's still an impersonation of Steve Perry any way you look at it. Arnel and Hugo are in the same league.

Some people seem to live and die by whatever Neal Schon says. When Neal says, "Oh no, that would be too weird having Hugo in Journey. He looks and acts too much like Steve Perry. That would be freaky." Then he goes on YouTube and finds someone who is a Steve Perry soundalike - and even goes as far as re-recording the classic Journey/Perry songs to show the world how great of a Steve Perry impersonator is. Huh????

Let's face it folks... Elvis has left the building, and he ain't coming back. Regardless of who tries to fill his shoes, they will all be labelled impersonators.

8)


(Arnel and Hugo is not in the same league, that's bullshit. There's a big difference in being a replacement and a impersonation.)

Oh, and btw...

Thank you, Captain Obvious!

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Postby annie89509 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:13 pm

steveo777 wrote:This guy gives me the creeps too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4zWSMlZnbQ :shock:

:shock: Wow, that is creepy. That guy could be Jim Morrison reincarnated.
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Postby Voyager » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:35 pm

Here is one of the definitions of the word "impersonate".

Dictionary.com wrote:Impersonate
to mimic the voice, mannerisms, etc., of (a person) in order to entertain.


That is EXACTLY what Arnel is doing. If he couldn't mimic the voice of Steve Perry as good as he does, he wouldn't have gotten the job - period.

On the day that Arnel packs out a venue singing nothing but original songs that he sang and made famous himself, I will give him credit for not making a living impersonating Steve Perry. Until then, he will be an impersonator in my book. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he is making money by emulating the voice of another singer. Anyone who cannot comprehend that very obvious fact is simply in denial.

If you're going to roast Hugo for emulating Steve Perry, you need to lump Arnel, Jeremey, Steve Augeri, and all the other Perry tribute singers in with him.

This whole argument stems from Neal being in denial: "Journey is not Steve Perry!!!" LOL! "The Rolling Stones is not Mick Jagger!!!" "Led Zeppelin is not Robert Plant!!!" "Aerosmith is not Steven Tyler!!!" "Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson!!!" "Elvis is not Elvis!!!"


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Postby Chubby321 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:56 pm

Voyager wrote:Here is one of the definitions of the word "impersonate".

Dictionary.com wrote:Impersonate
to mimic the voice, mannerisms, etc., of (a person) in order to entertain.


That is EXACTLY what Arnel is doing. If he couldn't mimic the voice of Steve Perry as good as he does, he wouldn't have gotten the job - period.

On the day that Arnel packs out a venue singing nothing but original songs that he sang and made famous himself, I will give him credit for not making a living impersonating Steve Perry. Until then, he will be an impersonator in my book. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he is making money by emulating the voice of another singer. Anyone who cannot comprehend that very obvious fact is simply in denial.

If you're going to roast Hugo for emulating Steve Perry, you need to lump Arnel, Jeremey, Steve Augeri, and all the other Perry tribute singers in with him.

It's hilarious how this argument never goes away.

:lol:


Even MG found out that live, Arnel doesn't sound nowhere near SP. When he sings, he doesn't copy/mimic the nasally sound of SP.

I have never read Arnel being called an impersonator, only here, but that does not surprise me anymore.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:04 am

steveo777 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Onestepper wrote:I think some of you are missing the point as to why people think the guy should find his own identity. So re-read the thread, close your eyes, and think really really hard. Then go eat a bagel. You'll feel better.


It's basically the same reason people think Arnel should find his own identity. Different faces, same argument. You may as well tell Jeremey to do some soul-searching to find himself while you're at it.

8)


Sigh....some people will never get it. Here is a clue.........Arnel works for the real band, penis hole. Arnel has his own identity and dose not dress, move or act like SP. He channels the familiar sound of SP on the classics because that is what people come to hear. Listen to the Revelation material. AP doesn't sound like SP, except a hint of legacy sound. So, I guess Journey actually plays a tribute to themselves...oh wait...key word alert...themselves Who is themselves? Oh, Journey...almost forgot. :roll: :lol: :twisted:

You're an ass!!


Don't you have anything new to say?)

Perhaps, do you have anything new to be?!?!?

steveo777 wrote:[Go fart in a bag and stick it over your head! :wink: 8) :lol:

I don't know how to repond... :?
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:18 am

Chubby321 wrote:Even MG found out that live, Arnel doesn't sound nowhere near SP. When he sings, he doesn't copy/mimic the nasally sound of SP.
I have never read Arnel being called an impersonator, only here, but that does not surprise me anymore.


You are correct, Chubs...Arnel has his own style, sounds nothing like SP to me!!
The second year he was more comfortable being AP. Probably as time goes on and more of his/their own music
is being made together, we'll hear more and more ARNEL!!! :wink:
It's those damn retreads....curse!! :evil:
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:42 am

Voyager wrote:Here is one of the definitions of the word "impersonate".

Dictionary.com wrote:Impersonate
to mimic the voice, mannerisms, etc., of (a person) in order to entertain.


That is EXACTLY what Arnel is doing. If he couldn't mimic the voice of Steve Perry as good as he does, he wouldn't have gotten the job - period.

On the day that Arnel packs out a venue singing nothing but original songs that he sang and made famous himself, I will give him credit for not making a living impersonating Steve Perry. Until then, he will be an impersonator in my book. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he is making money by emulating the voice of another singer. Anyone who cannot comprehend that very obvious fact is simply in denial.

If you're going to roast Hugo for emulating Steve Perry, you need to lump Arnel, Jeremey, Steve Augeri, and all the other Perry tribute singers in with him.

This whole argument stems from Neal being in denial: "Journey is not Steve Perry!!!" LOL! "The Rolling Stones is not Mick Jagger!!!" "Led Zeppelin is not Robert Plant!!!" "Aerosmith is not Steven Tyler!!!" "Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson!!!" "Elvis is not Elvis!!!"


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Am I mistaken? I thought you liked the current lineup. Why all the venom?

Perry should sue Pinny for singing his songs. (some of them better than he did) :wink: :twisted: :lol: 8)
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Postby Voyager » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:56 am

steveo777 wrote:Am I mistaken? I thought you liked the current lineup. Why all the venom?

Perry should sue Pinny for singing his songs. (some of them better than he did) :wink: :twisted: :lol: 8)


I love the current lineup. It's all good. I was just allowing you a way to release your pent-up rage, Mr. Penis Hole.

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Postby JohnH » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:08 am

Voyager wrote:Here is one of the definitions of the word "impersonate".

Dictionary.com wrote:Impersonate
to mimic the voice, mannerisms, etc., of (a person) in order to entertain.


That is EXACTLY what Arnel is doing. If he couldn't mimic the voice of Steve Perry as good as he does, he wouldn't have gotten the job - period.

If you're going to roast Hugo for emulating Steve Perry, you need to lump Arnel, Jeremey, Steve Augeri, and all the other Perry tribute singers in with him.

This whole argument stems from Neal being in denial: "Journey is not Steve Perry!!!" LOL! "The Rolling Stones is not Mick Jagger!!!" "Led Zeppelin is not Robert Plant!!!" "Aerosmith is not Steven Tyler!!!" "Michael Jackson is not Michael Jackson!!!" "Elvis is not Elvis!!!"




:lol: :lol:



And Deep Purple is not Ritchie Blackmore (even though they are)!!!

Even with three outstanding Steve Morse era albums - and one worst ever Purple album- that has a couple of good songs (Rapture) they are still a Ritchie Blackmore tribute band.
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Postby Vladan » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:47 pm

Chubby321 wrote:
Voyager wrote:Here is one of the definitions of the word "impersonate".

Dictionary.com wrote:Impersonate
to mimic the voice, mannerisms, etc., of (a person) in order to entertain.


That is EXACTLY what Arnel is doing. If he couldn't mimic the voice of Steve Perry as good as he does, he wouldn't have gotten the job - period.

On the day that Arnel packs out a venue singing nothing but original songs that he sang and made famous himself, I will give him credit for not making a living impersonating Steve Perry. Until then, he will be an impersonator in my book. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that he is making money by emulating the voice of another singer. Anyone who cannot comprehend that very obvious fact is simply in denial.

If you're going to roast Hugo for emulating Steve Perry, you need to lump Arnel, Jeremey, Steve Augeri, and all the other Perry tribute singers in with him.

It's hilarious how this argument never goes away.

:lol:


Even MG found out that live, Arnel doesn't sound nowhere near SP. When he sings, he doesn't copy/mimic the nasally sound of SP.

I have never read Arnel being called an impersonator, only here, but that does not surprise me anymore.

Arnel Pineda is a Steve Perry wanna-be, just like Steve Augeri, just like you, just like me, we are all Steve Perry wanna-be's, and so on... it's only normal. We and they are fans of the mans body of work, and grew up wanting to be him, and why wouldn't they? he a bloody LEGEND in the world of rock music, and has been for the past 30 years! why would you not want to be like your hero?.

Ofcourse Arnel tries to be Steve Perry, there is no two ways about it! if he didn't, trust me he wouldn't be in Journey, that is a simple fact of why Arnel is in Journey today, to emulate the classic sound, that is why Jonathan and Neal, Ross, Dean hired him. It's either Arnel Pindea or another sound-alike, and that is that.

A good thing about it all, Arnel Pineda is not only a good singer, he is a good person and brings out the best in Journey, so it's a win win situation.
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