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If Perry returned without Smith, what would the fate be of Mr. Castronovo?

Castronovo would stay and would still sing a couple songs a night
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Castronovo would stay, but Perry wouldn't even think of letting him sing any songs
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Castronovo would stay, but only until they could convince Smith to return
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21%
Castronovo would be be booted for another drummer of Perry's choice
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Total votes : 43

Postby steveo777 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:54 pm

Hehehe. Sparky? That's what my Wife and Daughter were calling me a couple years ago in Vegas. :D
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Postby Archetype » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:40 pm

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Archetype wrote:After hearing Castronovo sing, I actually can't stand Perry or Pineda. Castronovo has the best voice Journey has ever seen. "A Better Life" is some of the best vocal work in the Journey catalog. If Perry was smart, he'd keep Castronovo...someone's gotta sing the high notes :wink:


I can guarantee you that if I copied this and showed it to Deen personally, he would laugh his ass off at the absurdity.

You are a fucking buffoon.


A tremendous talent who is also very humble. That's awesome. Your resorting to personal insults over musical preference tells me that you have many insecurity issues :lol:
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Postby RPM » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:21 pm

Well.... Everything Deano said....ridiculous...
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:58 pm

RPM wrote:Well.... Everything Deano said....ridiculous...


Yeah dude, let's have Castronovo lead the band and put Perry on the bench. :roll: You are a fuckhead of the worst kind.
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Postby Archetype » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:17 pm

Perry's already on the bench. Castronovo's not.
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Postby Vladan » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:14 pm

Deen is amazingly good, at singing, drumming, everything, however he is s a drummer first.

Steve Perry vs any lead singer or singer Journey has had?, this is not up for discussion, and it has nothing to do with my opinion or anyones, it's a fool arguement, it really is.

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Postby annie89509 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:54 pm

Haha, where's JfromB when you need him? :wink:
Deen is very, very good. When you don't have SP singing those songs, he's the next best thing. But he'd be the first to say nobody will make anyone forget Steve Perry. Just go listen to those boots in Journey's heyday. There's not 1 song anyone can sing better. I know, music is subjective, but I agree with Portland.... anyone thinking otherwise is an idiot or tone-death.
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Postby SherriBerry » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:10 pm

I'm a fan of Deen's and I love hearing him sing, but neither Deen nor any of the subsequent vocalists for Journey, as talented as they are, touch Steve Perry in his prime. Deen may be able to hit a few higher notes now, but if SP's voice is currently as good as his close friends have said, Perry still takes it. If he came back, the band would be stupid to let Deen go - he is a good drummer and a dream as a backup vocalist. Does anyone think Steve Smith would really want to travel that road again at this point?
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Postby donnaplease » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:37 pm

I think DC is awesome, but who really wouldn't want to see the 'classic' lineup together? I think Deen would stay as long as Smitty was unavailable or unwilling, but otherwise...
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Postby Jana » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:44 am

If Deen was the lead singer for every song, not just two to three a set, he would be ripped apart eventually by some who like him on a few songs. His vocals could never hold up, not enough power stengthwise, and his voice is much thinner and not as vibrant, and it would show much wear and tear on touring.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:27 am

donnaplease wrote:I think DC is awesome, but who really wouldn't want to see the 'classic' lineup together? I think Deen would stay as long as Smitty was unavailable or unwilling, but otherwise...


Smitty's a hell of a drummer, but if they even wanted to maintain the SEMBLANCE of having real backing vocals, they need Deen BAD.
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Postby portland » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:28 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I think DC is awesome, but who really wouldn't want to see the 'classic' lineup together? I think Deen would stay as long as Smitty was unavailable or unwilling, but otherwise...


Smitty's a hell of a drummer, but if they even wanted to maintain the SEMBLANCE of having real backing vocals, they need Deen BAD.





That was my point...he would be excellent to have on backing vocals...it would be a win/win.
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Postby parfait » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:42 am

Give DC a couple of Ritalins, and let him do some backup singing. There's not a doubt in my mind, (it shouldn't be in yours either) that SM would be a huge improvement over DC when it comes to the drumming.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:53 am

parfait wrote:Give DC a couple of Ritalins, and let him do some backup singing. There's not a doubt in my mind, (it shouldn't be in yours either) that SM would be a huge improvement over DC when it comes to the drumming.


It's not quite that simple, PeePee. Deen is a fine drummer. :wink:
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Postby parfait » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:55 am

steveo777 wrote:
parfait wrote:Give DC a couple of Ritalins, and let him do some backup singing. There's not a doubt in my mind, (it shouldn't be in yours either) that SM would be a huge improvement over DC when it comes to the drumming.


It's not quite that simple, PeePee. Deen is a fine drummer. :wink:


Jennifer Aniston is a fine woman, but I'd rather do Monica Belucci.

Groove- and feel wise, Smith is miles ahead of Castronovo. No denying it, that's just the way it is. Smith's technical ability is awesome too, Castronovo's is not that good.
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Postby Jana » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:59 am

parfait wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
parfait wrote:Give DC a couple of Ritalins, and let him do some backup singing. There's not a doubt in my mind, (it shouldn't be in yours either) that SM would be a huge improvement over DC when it comes to the drumming.


It's not quite that simple, PeePee. Deen is a fine drummer. :wink:


Jennifer Aniston is a fine woman, but I'd rather do Monica Belucci.

Groove- and feel wise, Smith is miles ahead of Castronovo. No denying it, that's just the way it is. Smith's technical ability is awesome too, Castronovo's is not that good.


I know nothing about drumming, but watching Smitty in clip after clip, or listeing to cds, even I can see and hear what a phenomenol drummer he is. Deen is much more heavy-handed.
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Postby Don » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:03 am

Smitty isn't coming back for one simple reason. Click Track. Why go from doing his own thing to dealing with a metronome?
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:20 am

Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:23 am

steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


Deen is a great drummer and great at what he does for his genre. Comparing him to Smitty is a bit unfair because Smitty is a consummate master of the instrument, whereas Deen is a great rock/hard rock drummer, which is admittedly a style that SOMETIMES doesn't fit as nicely into some of Journey's lighter work. But, Deen's got plenty of technique.

Comparing Deen to Smitty is like trying to compare Slash with John Petrucci or Steve Morse. All great players, but very different.
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Postby Jana » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:24 am

steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:27 am

Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
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Postby Jana » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:32 am

steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
:wink:


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Point taken. :wink: :lol: what does strawberry parfait know? He's too busy urinating in women's mouths to know what sounds good. :wink:
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Postby portland » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:34 am

Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
:wink:


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Point taken. :wink: :lol: what does strawberry parfait know? He's too busy urinating in women's mouths to know what sounds good. :wink:




Are you trying to derail this thread?? Have we not had enough of that today???
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Postby parfait » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:56 am

steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
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Stop twisting my words, Betty Boop.

There's a difference between being not that good and bad. I personally doesn't like Castronovo's drumming at all. It's hard hitting, but that's about it. Uninspiring and soulless.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:59 am

parfait wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
:wink:


Stop twisting my words, Betty Poob.

There's a difference between being not that good and bad. I personally doesn't like Castronovo's drumming at all. It's hard hitting, but that's about it. Uninspiring and soulless.


See, I disagree with you. I like Deen's power and versatility. I think he's very talented.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:07 am

parfait wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Everybody knows Smitty is a great drummer, but that doesn't make Deen a bad one. I feel the band could do much worse and they have the added bonus that Deen can sing too. :D


who said he was a bad drummer on here? No where I read. I love Deen's playing.


In the words of PeePeeBarfait:

Castronovo's is not that good
:wink:


Stop twisting my words, Betty Boop.

There's a difference between being not that good and bad. I personally doesn't like Castronovo's drumming at all. It's hard hitting, but that's about it. Uninspiring and soulless.


LOL ...Betty Boop, I like!! Love Smitty and agree w/you 100% for the first time ever ... :P
Nothing against Deen, I do love to hear him sing the songs he does sing, very good job and
he is a cutey~pie!!! :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:12 am

I like the lineup as-is.
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Postby Tomulator » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:50 am

It's funny how everyone on here completely IGNORES the impact Smitty's DRUMMING has on the "classic Journey" sound.

Nobody cares whether he (or ANY drummer) can sing or would sing or should sing.

Smith's drumming puts Dean's to SHAME. No question about it and SMFP would realize that IMMEDIATELY and that is the TRUE reason Perry would push for Smitty.

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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:00 am

Tomulator wrote:It's funny how everyone on here completely IGNORES the impact Smitty's DRUMMING has on the "classic Journey" sound.

Nobody cares whether he (or ANY drummer) can sing or would sing or should sing.

Smith's drumming puts Dean's to SHAME. No question about it and SMFP would realize that IMMEDIATELY and that is the TRUE reason Perry would push for Smitty.

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I absolutely agree w/^^^^^^!! But he sings well, Tommy!!
I liked Beth, too and Hard Luck Woman is my anthem!! A singing drummer is good sometimes!!!:wink:
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Postby Don » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:02 am

How is Deen without the Click? He's got a lot of energy which might might speed up his tempo a bit.
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