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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:58 am

Steve's got a blog up about the show

http://www.steveaugeri.blogspot.com/
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:40 am

If anyone's unsure, that "Higher Place" clip is also down a half-step from the studio version.


Honestly, IMO, that clip really didn't do anyone any favors. Granted it's not easy shit to play or sing, but neither the vocals nor the band seemed very inspiring.
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Postby Its Me » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:05 pm

I was at this show. Steve and the band were having technical issues, especially during the start of the show. You can see Steve around the 2:34 mark, trying to get his ear monitors to work, he could not hear himself at all, plus there was plenty of reverb during this song. What this video does not show is one of the crew trying to fix this problem. This video is not a good way to judge this performance....once they got these issues resolved, they rocked the Syndicate!! 8)
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:15 pm

Its Me wrote:I was at this show. Steve and the band were having technical issues, especially during the start of the show. You can see Steve around the 2:34 mark, trying to get his ear monitors to work, he could not hear himself at all, plus there was plenty of reverb during this song. What this video does not show is one of the crew trying to fix this problem. This video is not a good way to judge this performance....once they got these issues resolved, they rocked the Syndicate!! 8)


I agree completely. There were definitely sound issues. I was front and center and to me the vocals weren't nearly loud enough and the sound of the bass was making some weird clicking noise.

This video is not a good barometer of how good the show was and how he sounded.
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Postby mick » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:52 pm

It seemed to me like the monitor issues got better around the time they went into Kiss Me Softly and it continued to improve from there. It was a shame he had these issues on his comeback show. If you get the chance you will just have to go see his next show to hear it for yourself. It wasn't perfect but it was a solid effort from Steve and the boys. I believe now that this show is done they will only improve from here. Adam the guitar player said that they recorded and assisted in writing the new songs which I think were very good. Steve said the cd will be released as soon as it is mixed. Everything I heard about Steve was true. He was really nice and courteous to everyone. He made sure everyone got a chance to get an autograph/picture etc. I'm just glad the man is back on stage at all and it appeared to me everyone had a great time. Isn't that really what is about anyway. Welcome back Mr. Augeri, it has been far too long. :D
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Postby Jana » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:54 pm

mick wrote:It seemed to me like the monitor issues got better around the time they went into Kiss Me Softly and it continued to improve from there. It was a shame he had these issues on his comeback show. If you get the chance you will just have to go see his next show to hear it for yourself. It wasn't perfect but it was a solid effort from Steve and the boys. I believe now that this show is done they will only improve from here. Adam the guitar player said that they recorded and assisted in writing the new songs which I think were very good. Steve said the cd will be released as soon as it is mixed. Everything I heard about Steve was true. He was really nice and courteous to everyone. He made sure everyone got a chance to get an autograph/picture etc. I'm just glad the man is back on stage at all and it appeared to me everyone had a great time. Isn't that really what is about anyway. Welcome back Mr. Augeri, it has been far too long. :D


I'm sure they will just get better as they get more shows under their belt. How many were at the show?
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Postby mick » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:57 pm

Jana wrote:
mick wrote:It seemed to me like the monitor issues got better around the time they went into Kiss Me Softly and it continued to improve from there. It was a shame he had these issues on his comeback show. If you get the chance you will just have to go see his next show to hear it for yourself. It wasn't perfect but it was a solid effort from Steve and the boys. I believe now that this show is done they will only improve from here. Adam the guitar player said that they recorded and assisted in writing the new songs which I think were very good. Steve said the cd will be released as soon as it is mixed. Everything I heard about Steve was true. He was really nice and courteous to everyone. He made sure everyone got a chance to get an autograph/picture etc. I'm just glad the man is back on stage at all and it appeared to me everyone had a great time. Isn't that really what is about anyway. Welcome back Mr. Augeri, it has been far too long. :D


I'm sure they will just get better as they get more shows under their belt. How many were at the show?


I believe the venue holds 495 and Steve said in his blog it was just shy of a sellout. 450-475 would be a good guess.
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:02 pm

MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Wonder if anybody is booting these...solid solid setlist.


+1! I'd LOVE to see some video from this show!!! I think I'm more excited about his new songs versus the Journey stuff though. :wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV-lSZjr9rY


I think he's lippin......get Deano to make sure. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

He seems pretty good, actually, although it sounds to be in a lower key.
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Postby Its Me » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:06 pm

mick wrote:
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mick wrote:It seemed to me like the monitor issues got better around the time they went into Kiss Me Softly and it continued to improve from there. It was a shame he had these issues on his comeback show. If you get the chance you will just have to go see his next show to hear it for yourself. It wasn't perfect but it was a solid effort from Steve and the boys. I believe now that this show is done they will only improve from here. Adam the guitar player said that they recorded and assisted in writing the new songs which I think were very good. Steve said the cd will be released as soon as it is mixed. Everything I heard about Steve was true. He was really nice and courteous to everyone. He made sure everyone got a chance to get an autograph/picture etc. I'm just glad the man is back on stage at all and it appeared to me everyone had a great time. Isn't that really what is about anyway. Welcome back Mr. Augeri, it has been far too long. :D


I'm sure they will just get better as they get more shows under their belt. How many were at the show?


I believe the venue holds 495 and Steve said in his blog it was just shy of a sellout. 450-475 would be a good guess.



Correct mick, very close to a sell out, the owner of the Syndicate stated after the show that this was one of the best attended and best rock shows they have had the pleasure of hosting for some time!! 8) Steve and the Band did a great job, and yes, he took the time to meet with everyone after the show. I know, we left the venue and it was well after midnight!!!
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Postby Saint John » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:11 pm

Sound issues, bass clicking, reverb and any other excuse you can come up with really have nothing to do with being off pitch and cracking during the entire song. Sadly, his voice sounded only a bit better than when the tape went out in Manchester and he was forced to sing with a destroyed voice. It just doen't sound like it's fully recovered, and that's odd because he sounded really good last year at Journey To The Cure. Man, that was terrible. I hope he gets better. He's a good man.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:25 pm

I have more faith in the people who attended the show than youtube, for sure!! :wink:
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 pm

Michigan Girl wrote:I have more faith in the people who attended the show than youtube, for sure!! :wink:


Thanks MG!! He really did sound really good. Here is a clip from later in the show after the technical issues were resolved. It sounds much better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOI4hfNgugE
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Postby MichaelRiesenbeck » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:23 am

Luvsaugeri wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I have more faith in the people who attended the show than youtube, for sure!! :wink:


Thanks MG!! He really did sound really good. Here is a clip from later in the show after the technical issues were resolved. It sounds much better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOI4hfNgugE


This is somewhat better but if I'm correct a half or a whole step down. It's weird that the songs which were written for his range don't suit him anymore. That can only mean that that range is gone. Now, that's understandable but I would expect the songs to sound amazing vocally tuned down.

He is still a captivating frontman and I'm sure the studio stuff will sound great, but I would not go see him live. Unfortunately, because I'm a major fan of Arrival and Red-13.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:29 am

Higher Place clip does sound bad... :(

I HATE hearing stuff half a step down, whether it's Arnel, SA, or even SP to a lesser extent (although some songs worked on the FTLOSM tour 1/2 step down). I just hate the way the guitars sound with this tuning. It even bothers me to a lesser extent hearing bands that recorded/always downtuned 1/2 step, like Guns n Roses and DLR-era VH. The guitars just don't soar like they should, especially when you have a melodic lead player like a Neal or an Eddie Van Halen.
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Postby ILjrnyFan » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:45 am

I'm just glad he still gets to do what he loves. If I were a vocalist, I'd do whatever it takes to insure I could continue doing what I'm passionate about. If that means tuning down, so be it! It's obvious looking at the set list and watching the videos that there were monitor problems toward the beginning of the show. I was there, so it's even more obvious to me.
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Postby ILjrnyFan » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:55 am

Saint John wrote:Sound issues, bass clicking, reverb and any other excuse you can come up with really have nothing to do with being off pitch and cracking during the entire song. Sadly, his voice sounded only a bit better than when the tape went out in Manchester and he was forced to sing with a destroyed voice. It just doen't sound like it's fully recovered, and that's odd because he sounded really good last year at Journey To The Cure. Man, that was terrible. I hope he gets better. He's a good man.

It's actually a very good excuse when the issues are both front of house AND monitors. Any musician will be able to confirm how nearly impossible it is to play / sing when you can't hear yourself.
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Postby Jana » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:49 am

Luvsaugeri wrote:He really did sound really good. Here is a clip from later in the show after the technical issues were resolved. It sounds much better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOI4hfNgugE


Nice. One of my favorite songs from one of my favorite Journey albums.
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:53 am

MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
This is somewhat better but if I'm correct a half or a whole step down. It's weird that the songs which were written for his range don't suit him anymore. That can only mean that that range is gone. Now, that's understandable but I would expect the songs to sound amazing vocally tuned down.



Well, he's 10 years older than when Arrival was recorded, and even then, he was probably singing a little out of his range to attempt to sound like Perry.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:01 am

MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:It's weird that the songs which were written for his range don't suit him anymore.


As posters on the old newsgroup forums used to bitch, Augeri never sang his own songs particularly well. He is not a vocal technician in the mold of Perry or DeYoung. On his best nights, he was a great showman and could made a general audience concert feel like a private invitation party. I think he sounds good here, and it looks like a fun time was had by all.

EDIT: By "good" I mean the All the Way clip. Not Higher Place.
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Postby brywool » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:02 am

wow....
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby MichaelRiesenbeck » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:26 am

brywool wrote:wow....


Good wow or bad wow?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:29 am

MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
brywool wrote:wow....


Good wow or bad wow?


Brywool is one of Augeri's toughest fans/critics and always harps on his horrible sense of pitch, so I'm guessing the latter.
On the bright side, I hear no diction issues! :lol:
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Postby MichaelRiesenbeck » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:31 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
brywool wrote:wow....


Good wow or bad wow?


Brywool is one of Augeri's toughest fans/critics and always harps on his horrible sense of pitch, so I'm guessing the latter.
On the bright side, I hear no diction issues! :lol:


I did hear a lyric error somewhere :)
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Postby Jana » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:54 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
brywool wrote:wow....


Good wow or bad wow?


Brywool is one of Augeri's toughest fans/critics and always harps on his horrible sense of pitch, so I'm guessing the latter.
On the bright side, I hear no diction issues! :lol:


Now, that is funny. :lol:
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Postby Aaron » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:51 am

Ditto Dan and well done. He was an hour away from me and playing with Valentine and I missed. Unbelievable! Dang it Drew, put that shite on the front page.

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Postby portland » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:54 am

Jana wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
MichaelRiesenbeck wrote:
brywool wrote:wow....


Good wow or bad wow?


Brywool is one of Augeri's toughest fans/critics and always harps on his horrible sense of pitch, so I'm guessing the latter.
On the bright side, I hear no diction issues! :lol:


Now, that is funny. :lol:



Yep it actually was! :lol: :lol:
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Postby slucero » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:08 am

He's using "in ears", so the stage volume can't be bothering him, and it looks like a club so the stage volume can't really be that loud anyways... I noticed he adjusted the in ear volume about 1/3 of the way in the song..

Technically his voice sounds like "soft"... he's definitely missing some power.

And that friggin delay is horrible...

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Postby kgdjpubs » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:11 pm

slucero wrote:He's using "in ears", so the stage volume can't be bothering him, and it looks like a club so the stage volume can't really be that loud anyways... I noticed he adjusted the in ear volume about 1/3 of the way in the song..

Technically his voice sounds like "soft"... he's definitely missing some power.

And that friggin delay is horrible...



if the in-ears aren't working properly (and it appears they were not), and you can't hear your own voice, you'd be surprised how much "volume can't really be that loud" can affect your pitch, etc. It's "easy" to sound good live when you can hear yourself--it can be VERY difficult if you can't. It's the same phenomenon as trying to talk on a phone at a loud event--you sound normal to yourself, but you are screaming at the person on the other end of the phone call. Now, upload it to youtube, and let everyone dissect it!

Also, take youtube audio with a fair amount of salt. Two cameras at two locations can give totally different representations of sound and bass--and vocals are affected a lot. Some camera mics (which are VERY cheap to begin with) are very tinny, which doesn't help the perceived depth of one's voice at all.

Between youtube and the many comments of sound problems, I don't think you can get a correct picture of what the show sounded like unless you were there in person.
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Postby ILjrnyFan » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:31 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
slucero wrote:He's using "in ears", so the stage volume can't be bothering him, and it looks like a club so the stage volume can't really be that loud anyways... I noticed he adjusted the in ear volume about 1/3 of the way in the song..

Technically his voice sounds like "soft"... he's definitely missing some power.

And that friggin delay is horrible...



if the in-ears aren't working properly (and it appears they were not), and you can't hear your own voice, you'd be surprised how much "volume can't really be that loud" can affect your pitch, etc. It's "easy" to sound good live when you can hear yourself--it can be VERY difficult if you can't. It's the same phenomenon as trying to talk on a phone at a loud event--you sound normal to yourself, but you are screaming at the person on the other end of the phone call. Now, upload it to youtube, and let everyone dissect it!

Also, take youtube audio with a fair amount of salt. Two cameras at two locations can give totally different representations of sound and bass--and vocals are affected a lot. Some camera mics (which are VERY cheap to begin with) are very tinny, which doesn't help the perceived depth of one's voice at all.

Between youtube and the many comments of sound problems, I don't think you can get a correct picture of what the show sounded like unless you were there in person.

Yep! The mix in both the stage monitors AND the in ear monitors is critical for the musicians, lead vocals, and backup vocals. This was a small venue with BIG sound. There was no place in the building that it wasn't loud.
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Postby slucero » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:36 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
slucero wrote:He's using "in ears", so the stage volume can't be bothering him, and it looks like a club so the stage volume can't really be that loud anyways... I noticed he adjusted the in ear volume about 1/3 of the way in the song..

Technically his voice sounds like "soft"... he's definitely missing some power.

And that friggin delay is horrible...



if the in-ears aren't working properly (and it appears they were not), and you can't hear your own voice, you'd be surprised how much "volume can't really be that loud" can affect your pitch, etc. It's "easy" to sound good live when you can hear yourself--it can be VERY difficult if you can't. It's the same phenomenon as trying to talk on a phone at a loud event--you sound normal to yourself, but you are screaming at the person on the other end of the phone call. Now, upload it to youtube, and let everyone dissect it!

Also, take youtube audio with a fair amount of salt. Two cameras at two locations can give totally different representations of sound and bass--and vocals are affected a lot. Some camera mics (which are VERY cheap to begin with) are very tinny, which doesn't help the perceived depth of one's voice at all.

Between youtube and the many comments of sound problems, I don't think you can get a correct picture of what the show sounded like unless you were there in person.


Oh I agree... I did the club thing, singing for 10 years... bad monitors = hard to sing...

Augeri didn't appear to be having too much trouble hearing.. at least from what I could see.. I noticed right after he adjusted his volume his pitch got better... I did hear him pitchy on lower notes... which tells me that low end was hard to hear...

I did notice his projection wasn't as strong as I've heard... thats what I meant when I mentioned his voice sounded "soft"

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