Journey/Foreigner/Styx tour UK 2011

[Arkansas]

The concert-going public (ie, America in general) is still on the backside of a recession. Money is tight all ways around.
This play bill makes sense. Consolidate expenses & use each other to draw.

Now then, when Journey puts out a new album is unknown. There's no way that Journey can play 'big time' on their own. So do this nostalgia thing to re-invigorate the market, and then see how a new record is supported. Basically, buying time to see what happens...or doesn't happen.

Journey took a year off. They've pretty much gotta start all over to make a few bucks and generate interest before publishing new work.

Btw, I'm sure the Perry rumors will abound...and who knows, maybe this is all prep to make the rumors true.


later~

[Lerxst101]

This is laughable. Sorry to come in and piss on your parade, but another multiple act bill? I thought Journey was going to play big arenas all on their own? What happened to that idea? Also, three acts? Good luck hearing any new material from Journey. The set times have got to be limited to about 80-90 mins max. This is going to suck. Whoopie, we get to see the dirty dozen rushed yet again. I can't live without hearing those songs again. For the true Journey fan, this can't be exciting news.

And to the Styx downers. If any of you saw the Main Event tour, they kicked the living shit out of Journey. Styx can flat out bring it live.

So true. Despite Journey playing great, Styx stole the night with a better selection of songs, tighter & more clear sound, and flat out amazing playing. And I am not a huge Styx fan. Was not a good idea for Journey to follow Styx at the NJ show.

[maverick218]

I hope this isn't true- just say NO to only hearing the dirty dozen and nothing new.

[SF-Dano]

I really hope this is not the lineup for the US tour. Journey, Styx, Foreigner, REO, Heart, Def Leppard - Enough with these pairings for craps sake. Even if they can't get a newer band to open the shows, there are older groups that I am sure would have no problem acting as openers for Journey on a US tour. Night Ranger, Y&T, Montrose, Tesla, heck even the Greg Rolie band. Please, something different than the same 4 or 5 bands all the time. I know they were not large venues, but I miss the shows Journey used to play on their own at places like Konocti Resort or even casino shows in Reno, Tahoe, and Vegas.

[Jana]

I really hope this is not the lineup for the US tour. Journey, Styx, Foreigner, REO, Heart, Def Leppard - Enough with these pairings for craps sake. Even if they can't get a newer band to open the shows, there are older groups that I am sure would have no problem acting as openers for Journey on a US tour. Night Ranger, Y&T, Montrose, Tesla, heck even the Greg Rolie band. Please, something different than the same 4 or 5 bands all the time. I know they were not large venues, but I miss the shows Journey used to play on their own at places like Konocti Resort or even casino shows in Reno, Tahoe, and Vegas.

Night Ranger opened with Journey last year. I will pass on another opening with them. One time was good, but not the next year also. Heart I would love and enjoy again since it's been a few years I've seen them together.

I agree on alone shows. I would love to see a longer set and really delve into their catalogue and new upcoming music. But the economy probably dictates differently like many have pointed out on here.

[Don]

The concert-going public (ie, America in general) is still on the backside of a recession. Money is tight all ways around.
This play bill makes sense. Consolidate expenses & use each other to draw.

Now then, when Journey puts out a new album is unknown. There's no way that Journey can play 'big time' on their own. So do this nostalgia thing to re-invigorate the market, and then see how a new record is supported. Basically, buying time to see what happens...or doesn't happen.

Journey took a year off. They've pretty much gotta start all over to make a few bucks and generate interest before publishing new work.

Btw, I'm sure the Perry rumors will abound...and who knows, maybe this is all prep to make the rumors true.


later~

Not if Neal has any say in it. It seems he was trying to cut that notion off at the pass. His comments the other day after the Perry singalong in San Francisco where to the point of" Arnel is the new King... and we are set to conquer the world in the next 2 years just as we originally planned from the beginning."

[steveo777]

Nice to hear Neal's loyalty. Perry could have had that, but...........he blew it.

[hoagiepete]

If this happens, Journey had better bring their "A" game every night. Just saw Foreigner and they frickin' kicked it. Styx, contrary to some opinions, still put on a high energy, entertaining show.

Even though Journey has always been my favorite, I'd rather they play with another group. Too many years, too many concerts, too much the same. I hate to say it but I've became board with them. Bring back Rolie, Smitty (or at least give Deen a solo) or something. Please change it up somehow to bring new life! Do that and then a full "evening" with them would be attractive.

I'll be the first in line for tickets for the rumored tour though.

[Don]

Nice to hear Neal's loyalty. Perry could have had that, but...........he blew it.

Neal's loyalty? Does he really have a choice in the manner? If Perry hasn't called him up and said he wants in, what else will Neal say? Dumping another singer now is suicide for the band.
It's his typical response couched in terms that make no sense.

What exactly is Arnel the new king of?

Record sales? Taylor Swift just outsold Revelation's two years worth of sales in seven days.
Concert Tickets? U2's tour last year sold twice as many tickets as Journey's 2008/2009 tours combined.
Hits on the radio? We won't even go there.
New songs being used in films and commercials? Now we are getting ridiculous.
King of the Pinheads? Without a doubt
Court Jester? I'll let you fill in the blank.

[Michigan Girl]

Arnel is king of the Pinheads ...and I'm sure his family treats him like a King!!
King of Journey?!?! ...just another Slam @Perry and a funny one too!! Only
a Pinhead takes it seriously ...Journey isn't even royalty!!

[steveo777]

Arnel is king of the Pinheads ...and I'm sure his family treats him like a King!!
King of Journey?!?! ...just another Slam @Perry and a funny one too!! Only
a Pinhead takes it seriously!!

But, from what I've seen of his charity gigs, it appears there are tons of pinheads.

[SF-Dano]

I know this thread is about the tour and acts that would draw in a larger crowd. But talk about recording sales? I could give a rats ass if Taylor Swift and U2 out sell Journey releases. That just speaks to the sad state of the music world today and the artists the media "choose" to promote and actually give a marketing push to. It speaks nothing of the quality of muscianship and song writing.

[Jana]

Nice to hear Neal's loyalty. Perry could have had that, but...........he blew it.

Neal's loyalty? Does he really have a choice in the manner? If Perry hasn't called him up and said he wants in, what else will Neal say? Dumping another singer now is suicide for the band.
It's his typical response couched in terms that make no sense.

What exactly is Arnel the new king of?

Record sales? Taylor Swift just outsold Revelation's two years worth of sales in seven days.
Concert Tickets? U2's tour last year sold twice as many tickets as Journey's 2008/2009 tours combined.
Hits on the radio? We won't even go there.
New songs being used in films and commercials? Now we are getting ridiculous.
King of the Pinheads? Without a doubt
Court Jester? I'll let you fill in the blank.

I didn't realize anyone ever said he was "new king" of anything, so can't answer.

[Don]

Nice to hear Neal's loyalty. Perry could have had that, but...........he blew it.

Neal's loyalty? Does he really have a choice in the manner? If Perry hasn't called him up and said he wants in, what else will Neal say? Dumping another singer now is suicide for the band.
It's his typical response couched in terms that make no sense.

What exactly is Arnel the new king of?

Record sales? Taylor Swift just outsold Revelation's two years worth of sales in seven days.
Concert Tickets? U2's tour last year sold twice as many tickets as Journey's 2008/2009 tours combined.
Hits on the radio? We won't even go there.
New songs being used in films and commercials? Now we are getting ridiculous.
King of the Pinheads? Without a doubt
Court Jester? I'll let you fill in the blank.

I didn't realize anyone ever said he was "new king" of anything, so can't answer.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... 10#4524810

[Michigan Girl]

Arnel is king of the Pinheads ...and I'm sure his family treats him like a King!!
King of Journey?!?! ...just another Slam @Perry and a funny one too!! Only
a Pinhead takes it seriously!!

But, from what I've seen of his charity gigs, it appears there are tons of pinheads.

I've seen a lot of the filipino pinheads at those shows ...there's more than that!!

[Deb]

I know this thread is about the tour and acts that would draw in a larger crowd. But talk about recording sales? I could give a rats ass if Taylor Swift and U2 out sell Journey releases. That just speaks to the sad state of the music world today and the artists the media "choose" to promote and actually give a marketing push to. It speaks nothing of the quality of muscianship and song writing.

Agreed. But sadly, for some, stats and sales play a huge part in how they choose their music......

[Jana]

Nice to hear Neal's loyalty. Perry could have had that, but...........he blew it.

Neal's loyalty? Does he really have a choice in the manner? If Perry hasn't called him up and said he wants in, what else will Neal say? Dumping another singer now is suicide for the band.
It's his typical response couched in terms that make no sense.

What exactly is Arnel the new king of?

Record sales? Taylor Swift just outsold Revelation's two years worth of sales in seven days.
Concert Tickets? U2's tour last year sold twice as many tickets as Journey's 2008/2009 tours combined.
Hits on the radio? We won't even go there.
New songs being used in films and commercials? Now we are getting ridiculous.
King of the Pinheads? Without a doubt
Court Jester? I'll let you fill in the blank.

I didn't realize anyone ever said he was "new king" of anything, so can't answer.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... 10#4524810

Neal might be on the sauce again.

[Don]

I need to take a break, work has to be done this morning. After a BEAUTIFUL week so far of 90°+ weather, I need to accomplish something today.

[Rocker Chic]

This is laughable. Sorry to come in and piss on your parade, but another multiple act bill? I thought Journey was going to play big arenas all on their own? What happened to that idea? Also, three acts? Good luck hearing any new material from Journey. The set times have got to be limited to about 80-90 mins max. This is going to suck. Whoopie, we get to see the dirty dozen rushed yet again. I can't live without hearing those songs again. For the true Journey fan, this can't be exciting news.

And to the Styx downers. If any of you saw the Main Event tour, they kicked the living shit out of Journey. Styx can flat out bring it live.

Ooo, good! I can see Styx and Foreigner... Then beat the traffic out of the parking lot! Woo, hoo!!!

[MCC620]

This is laughable. Sorry to come in and piss on your parade, but another multiple act bill? I thought Journey was going to play big arenas all on their own? What happened to that idea? Also, three acts? Good luck hearing any new material from Journey. The set times have got to be limited to about 80-90 mins max. This is going to suck. Whoopie, we get to see the dirty dozen rushed yet again. I can't live without hearing those songs again. For the true Journey fan, this can't be exciting news.

And to the Styx downers. If any of you saw the Main Event tour, they kicked the living shit out of Journey. Styx can flat out bring it live.

Ooo, good! I can see Styx and Foreigner... Then beat the traffic out of the parking lot! Woo, hoo!!!

where's the damn "like" button!

[tanga]

This tour gonna be called

"Replacement lead singer tour"


Would much prefer a newer younger band opening.

[Don]

This tour gonna be called

"Replacement lead singer tour"


Would much prefer a newer younger band opening.

It's hard to put Styx totally in that catagory as Tommy sings his originals for half the setlist. That Canadian guy is more like a side act they wheel out every few minutes isn't he?

[Arkansas]

Wasn't AP's deal originally reported as three years with an annual renewal, or something like that? If so, is his guarantee done, or at least on year-to-year now? Has he been renewed long term, or just on retainer? Anyone have any insight?

The 3 band nostalgia show could be just to see if he can still handle it...and since they'll have a time restriction, they'll have an excuse to not play anything new. I really think that putting out new material will be based on AP's potential longevity. If he can't hack it next year/tour, then it may be awhile before they put out new stuff. Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the big break in recording a new album this year into next is all about seeing if they'll need another singer, or if they can get Perry back. Surely, they know their days are numbered...at least, their big money days.


later~

[Jana]

Wasn't AP's deal originally reported as three years with an annual renewal, or something like that? If so, is his guarantee done, or at least on year-to-year now? Has he been renewed long term, or just on retainer? Anyone have any insight?

The 3 band nostalgia show could be just to see if he can still handle it...and since they'll have a time restriction, they'll have an excuse to not play anything new. I really think that putting out new material will be based on AP's potential longevity. If he can't hack it next year/tour, then it may be awhile before they put out new stuff. Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the big break in recording a new album this year into next is all about seeing if they'll need another singer, or if they can get Perry back. Surely, they know their days are numbered...at least, their big money days.


later~

What? I thought they were coming back in the fall to finish the album. It will be out first of next year sometime is what I heard a while back.

From Kevin Shirley in May or so:

"The new Journey album recording is almost finished - we have a few lead vocals to do, Neal (Schon) wants to do a few segueways and we'll get to those and the mix in November, and I think that should wrap it up for an early 2011 release."

[steveo777]

Wasn't AP's deal originally reported as three years with an annual renewal, or something like that? If so, is his guarantee done, or at least on year-to-year now? Has he been renewed long term, or just on retainer? Anyone have any insight?

The 3 band nostalgia show could be just to see if he can still handle it...and since they'll have a time restriction, they'll have an excuse to not play anything new. I really think that putting out new material will be based on AP's potential longevity. If he can't hack it next year/tour, then it may be awhile before they put out new stuff. Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the big break in recording a new album this year into next is all about seeing if they'll need another singer, or if they can get Perry back. Surely, they know their days are numbered...at least, their big money days.


later~

What? I thought they were coming back in the fall to finish the album. It will be out first of next year sometime is what I heard a while back.

From Kevin Shirley in May or so:

"The new Journey album recording is almost finished - we have a few lead vocals to do, Neal (Schon) wants to do a few segueways and we'll get to those and the mix in November, and I think that should wrap it up for an early 2011 release."

Arnel just returned home from the US after laying down some final vocals for the album. It's on, trust me. It should be released within the first few months of the year.

[Jana]

Wasn't AP's deal originally reported as three years with an annual renewal, or something like that? If so, is his guarantee done, or at least on year-to-year now? Has he been renewed long term, or just on retainer? Anyone have any insight?

The 3 band nostalgia show could be just to see if he can still handle it...and since they'll have a time restriction, they'll have an excuse to not play anything new. I really think that putting out new material will be based on AP's potential longevity. If he can't hack it next year/tour, then it may be awhile before they put out new stuff. Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if the big break in recording a new album this year into next is all about seeing if they'll need another singer, or if they can get Perry back. Surely, they know their days are numbered...at least, their big money days.


later~

What? I thought they were coming back in the fall to finish the album. It will be out first of next year sometime is what I heard a while back.

From Kevin Shirley in May or so:

"The new Journey album recording is almost finished - we have a few lead vocals to do, Neal (Schon) wants to do a few segueways and we'll get to those and the mix in November, and I think that should wrap it up for an early 2011 release."

Arnel just returned home from the US after laying down some final vocals for the album. It's on, trust me. It should be released within the first few months of the year.

That's what I thought. Arkansas' post threw me, like I missed some new update I didn't read.

[sniper16]

please dont bring this tired pairing back to the states, how about a journey/triumph/mr big pairing
i would prefer a co headline instead of triple bill though
maybe journey/chickenfoot.
or throw in a hard rock/heavy metal band to draw a different crowd, maybe tesla
hell even billy squier would be a change of pace, saw him last year and the set was good

[jrny84]

Not this again! I understood why Journey was doing the triple billing for the last several years, because they had to build their fan base back up and try to get acceptance from their original fans. Now that they finally have built a strong fan base again and have regained alot of popularity, its time to take the next step and tour on their own or with ONE band as an opening act. It seems like everytime they take one step forward, then they take three steps back. I can see putting a few smaller bands with Journey in the UK, because they are not as nearly as popular as they are in the United States. But come on the same old bands again!

Its time for Journey to continue on the tour format like they did last year with one band as an opening act like Boston, Pat Benatar, or a co headliner with a band like Chicago, Bryan Adams, or even Foreigner. No more triple bills! These guys are way better than this.

[Don]

please dont bring this tired pairing back to the states, how about a journey/triumph/mr big pairing
i would prefer a co headline instead of triple bill though
maybe journey/chickenfoot.
or throw in a hard rock/heavy metal band to draw a different crowd, maybe tesla
hell even billy squier would be a change of pace, saw him last year and the set was good

Triumph is done, at least with Rik Emmett as their vocalist. That window closed. I don't know if it was because they couldn't get the right type of touring deal or if Rik was just waffling about really returning permanetly but it seems pretty much dead in the water now.

[Michigan Girl]

The only way I will ever hear the DD again w/out SP, is if they
tour w/someone whose DD I DO want to hear ...talk about tired ...