Missed Opportunity

[Don]

No matter how long they last, as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey.

[Ligzig]

I agree with Deano that Journey has one more year left in the spotlight. 2011 Album and Tour. Unless Perry comes back, that is it.

Uh huh ... we've been hearing this for about 10 years.

LOL I know. I read old posts from four, five years ago, and the same thing was being said, that have no more plans past "one" more year in the spotlight as far as a tour. From everything I've read from Arnel, Jon, and Neal last year, they plan on touring a lot longer than one year. Now another album, I have no clue. I guess it depends on how this one sells.

If they say it enough, they'll eventually be right.

My personal prediction is that they might tour a few more years and then branch off onto their own projects until "retirement" or death.

[Don]

I agree with Deano that Journey has one more year left in the spotlight. 2011 Album and Tour. Unless Perry comes back, that is it.

Uh huh ... we've been hearing this for about 10 years.

LOL I know. I read old posts from four, five years ago, and the same thing was being said, that have no more plans past "one" more year in the spotlight as far as a tour. From everything I've read from Arnel, Jon, and Neal last year, they plan on touring a lot longer than one year. Now another album, I have no clue. I guess it depends on how this one sells.

If they say it enough, they'll eventually be right.

My personal prediction is that they might tour a few more years and then branch off onto their own projects until "retirement" or death.

That might hold true for other things also. Aren't some of them due for a drug relapse or something by now? What is it, three members recovering addicts and another an ex-alcoholic. I think Cain is the only one who has stayed reasonably clean his entire career, or at least kept it out of the public eye. Why didn't these guys just stick to pot like the rest of us were doing in the '70s?

[Michigan Girl]

geeez ...you make me laugh ...

[Saint John]

How long do you think they have left?

At least 5 years.

[Ligzig]

That might hold true for other things also. Aren't some of them due for a drug relapse or something by now? What is it, three members recovering addicts and another an ex-alcoholic. I think Cain is the only one who has stayed reasonably clean his entire career, or at least kept it out of the public eye. Why didn't these guys just stick to pot like the rest of us were doing in the '70s?

Shit, I don't know. Too many old rockers look like beef jerky. Personally, I don't understand people who have no self control over those things.

[Don]

How long do you think they have left?

At least 5 years.

A piece of cake. Look at Foreigner; one album of new material in 15 years, yet they have been a regular touring machine here and in Europe. New music isn't a must, it's not like they're going to pull a Van Hager and over shadow their legacy products with some new song/album.

[Saint John]

How long do you think they have left?

At least 5 years.

A piece of cake. Look at Foreigner; one album of new material in 15 years. New music isn't a must, it's not like they're going to pull a Van Hager and over shadow their legacy products with some new song/album.

And they'll do at least 2 more albums after the 2011 release. That is, of course, assuming everyone stays healthy. Neal will journey on. It's what he does.

[Ligzig]

Looking at their ages again, 5 years seems reasonable. I don't know why I thought most of them were mid 60's.

They need to kick Ross out, his wrinkled ass looks spread to the whole band.

[sniper16]

i seriously doubt perry has any say in anything that he wasnt in, if he did he would have stopped the re records, he may still get a piece of the pie, as for the dodgers, maybe it was a polite way of saying were giants fans sorry

[journeyrock]

No matter how long they last, as long as they have to carry DSB as their banner, it looks like Perry will be right there with them as an overseer, ready to wield his veto power on all things Classic Journey.

That is the very best speech I have heard in a very long time. Hail to Don.

[journeyrock]

I agree with Deano that Journey has one more year left in the spotlight. 2011 Album and Tour. Unless Perry comes back, that is it.

Uh huh ... we've been hearing this for about 10 years.

LOL I know. I read old posts from four, five years ago, and the same thing was being said, that have no more plans past "one" more year in the spotlight as far as a tour. From everything I've read from Arnel, Jon, and Neal last year, they plan on touring a lot longer than one year. Now another album, I have no clue. I guess it depends on how this one sells.

If they say it enough, they'll eventually be right.

My personal prediction is that they might tour a few more years and then branch off onto their own projects until "retirement" or death.

That might hold true for other things also. Aren't some of them due for a drug relapse or something by now? What is it, three members recovering addicts and another an ex-alcoholic. I think Cain is the only one who has stayed reasonably clean his entire career, or at least kept it out of the public eye. Why didn't these guys just stick to pot like the rest of us were doing in the '70s?

And we know that he's still an EX-alcoholic How?

[Rockindeano]

i seriously doubt perry has any say in anything that he wasnt in, if he did he would have stopped the re records, he may still get a piece of the pie, as for the dodgers, maybe it was a polite way of saying were giants fans sorry

Sifting through your hideous grammar , I agree here. Perry can't possibly be a puppeteer. I read Chubby's post citing an article that the two finalists for the Super Bowl this year was Black Eyed Peas and Journey. Are you telling me Espee can veto Journey playing the biggest stage in the world? If so, that's just wrong.

[Jana]

I agree with Deano that Journey has one more year left in the spotlight. 2011 Album and Tour. Unless Perry comes back, that is it.

Uh huh ... we've been hearing this for about 10 years.

LOL I know. I read old posts from four, five years ago, and the same thing was being said, that have no more plans past "one" more year in the spotlight as far as a tour. From everything I've read from Arnel, Jon, and Neal last year, they plan on touring a lot longer than one year. Now another album, I have no clue. I guess it depends on how this one sells.

If they say it enough, they'll eventually be right.

My personal prediction is that they might tour a few more years and then branch off onto their own projects until "retirement" or death.

That might hold true for other things also. Aren't some of them due for a drug relapse or something by now? What is it, three members recovering addicts and another an ex-alcoholic. I think Cain is the only one who has stayed reasonably clean his entire career, or at least kept it out of the public eye. Why didn't these guys just stick to pot like the rest of us were doing in the '70s?

And we know that he's still an EX-alcoholic How?

After seeing some of his statements lately, it looks like he's fallen off the wagon.

[journeyrock]

I agree with Deano that Journey has one more year left in the spotlight. 2011 Album and Tour. Unless Perry comes back, that is it.

Uh huh ... we've been hearing this for about 10 years.

LOL I know. I read old posts from four, five years ago, and the same thing was being said, that have no more plans past "one" more year in the spotlight as far as a tour. From everything I've read from Arnel, Jon, and Neal last year, they plan on touring a lot longer than one year. Now another album, I have no clue. I guess it depends on how this one sells.

If they say it enough, they'll eventually be right.

My personal prediction is that they might tour a few more years and then branch off onto their own projects until "retirement" or death.

That might hold true for other things also. Aren't some of them due for a drug relapse or something by now? What is it, three members recovering addicts and another an ex-alcoholic. I think Cain is the only one who has stayed reasonably clean his entire career, or at least kept it out of the public eye. Why didn't these guys just stick to pot like the rest of us were doing in the '70s?

And we know that he's still an EX-alcoholic How?

After seeing some of his statements lately, it looks like he's fallen off the wagon.

Zactly

[Art Vandelay]

i seriously doubt perry has any say in anything that he wasnt in, if he did he would have stopped the re records, he may still get a piece of the pie, as for the dodgers, maybe it was a polite way of saying were giants fans sorry

Sifting through your hideous grammar , I agree here. Perry can't possibly be a puppeteer. I read Chubby's post citing an article that the two finalists for the Super Bowl this year was Black Eyed Peas and Journey. Are you telling me Espee can veto Journey playing the biggest stage in the world? If so, that's just wrong.

Seriously. People who buy into this one are giving Perry way to much credit. He'd have to be slicker than whale shit in an ice flow to pull those kind of strings.

[Michigan Girl]

Sifting through your hideous grammar , I agree here. Perry can't possibly be a puppeteer. I read Chubby's post citing an article that the two finalists for the Super Bowl this year was Black Eyed Peas and Journey.

Seriously?!? I have never heard the Journey name even whispered ...where is this article?!?!

Where's Chubby?!?

[Ligzig]

Where's Chubby?!?

http://arnelpinedarocks.com/

[brywool]

I don't blame Perry one bit if this is true. The guy was featured in AT+T Park for two games already. How awkward would it be to have a karaoke singer performing YOUR song the next night? Weird.

I'm sure that Perry was asked, but he just couldn't because he has "feelings" about it and the "faithfull ones" might all piss themselves because Arnel is doing what the Schozzed One can't.


He wouldn't even sing the national anthem for his beloved team...


Karaoke my ass. Arnel sings his ass off.

I don't understand why people sh*t on Arnel so much. The guy's one helluva singer.
I didn't say Better, so don't freak out, but I don't get it.

For Perry to stop this is insecurity of the highest order.

Whattsa Matter Steve? Afraid Arnel will erase your legacy?

Hardly.

Man it must suck to be Perry and be constantly worried that you'll be forgotten about.
Truth is, nobody will forget him, but man, get over yourself. Those who doubt this happened and why are lying to themselves. The more I hear about SP the less I respect him.

[Ligzig]

Whattsa Matter Steve? Afraid Arnel will erase your legacy?

Hardly.

Man it must suck to be Perry and be constantly worried that you'll be forgotten about.
Truth is, nobody will forget him, but man, get over yourself. Those who doubt this happened and why are lying to themselves. The more I hear about SP the less I respect him.

I agree. I don't understand where all of this "erasing the legacy" stuff comes from. NOBODY is going to erase history and it's already set in stone. Perry is on all of the classics and over the 75+ million records sold. Just because Neal and Cain like to say dumb shit sometimes while throwing in the word "legacy" doesn't mean everyone will suddenly forget about Perry.

[Michigan Girl]

Arnel couldn't erase SP's legacy with 10 tons of Kiltz, one million tons of Whiteout and an eraser the size of Texas!!
You people (Perry Basher's) are losing control over insufficient evidence ..SJ, give me that number!!

The eraser of the legacy stuff comes from the Perry Basher's!!

[brywool]

Arnel couldn't erase SP's legacy with 10 tons of Kiltz, one million tons of Whiteout and an eraser the size of Texas!!
You people (Perry Basher's) are losing control over insufficient evidence ..SJ, give me that number!!

That's what the post said MG. He's worried AND PARANOID about NOTHING.
Let Journey work, it doesn't affect Perry whatsoever, yet he's so friggin' nuts about it.

If Perry COULD do it, he would. He can't, so let others that can.

[Ligzig]

Arnel couldn't erase SP's legacy with 10 tons of Kiltz, one million tons of Whiteout and an eraser the size of Texas!!

Nobody said he would...? Except maybe delusional pinheads...but their opinion doesn't matter on the subject anyway.

I think there's a line between Perry bashing and being objective.

[Don]

Maybe it's not so much about Perry being paranoid, perhaps he is just a sadistic type of person that likes to rile up Neal every chance he gets. He just does it covertly, to paint Schon as the fool. Sort of like a bully picking on the special needs kid in school. The instigator doesn't always have to be the biggest and loudest one in the class, you know.

[brywool]

Maybe it's not so much about Perry being paranoid, perhaps he is just a sadistic type of person that likes to rile up Neal every chance he gets. He just does it covertly, to paint Schon as the fool. Sort of like a bully picking on the special needs kid in school. The instigator doesn't always have to be the biggest and loudest one in the class, you know.

You know what Don? From his actions, it's hard to draw any other conclusion.

[Ligzig]

I think he's a narcissist if anything. I'm only going by his actions and what I've seen from interviews but that's what it seems like to me.

[Don]

I think he's a narcissist if anything. I'm only going by his actions and what I've seen from interviews but that's what it seems like to me.

That was the word I should have used.

[portland]

I think he's a narcissist if anything. I'm only going by his actions and what I've seen from interviews but that's what it seems like to me.

That was the word I should have used.

Yeah well Neal makes it VERY easy!

[Rockindeano]

Karaoke my ass. Arnel sings his ass off.

When this guy can write his own song, just one for crying out loud, then he will get a bit more respect. As it is now, he IS a karaoke singer. Just because you sing your ass off, does not make you not a "cover singer." Better?

I don't understand why people sh*t on Arnel so much. .

Good point. I wasn't trying to shit on Pineda...I used poor words, however, his fans are fucking idiots. Pinoy nation is an embarrassment.

The guy's one helluva singer

I'm not so sure about this. Helluva voice? Absolutely. Great singer? Meh, not so much. The guy can cover a song pretty good, but he still has major flaws, mainly enunciation and diction. I would be very cautious to label him a "great singer." JSS is by far and away, a much better singer than Pineda.

[Saint John]

The eraser of the legacy stuff comes from the Perry Basher's!!

No one has ever bashed the guy's talent. Never.