Another band I would love to see tour w/ Journey in 2011

[Seven Wishes2]

Seger would have to open for Journey. He's not that significant a draw without another major act on the ticket...and besides, his music all sounds exactly the same. Boring.

The Outfield. Now THAT is a GREAT idea.

I thought you were joking but see no 's.

I think Seger will do just fine without another major act. You have to be the first person I have ever heard compare the Outfield over Bob Seger. I am shocked really.

Talent-wise, I will take Spinks and the Boys ANY DAY over Seger, most of whose songs sound exactly the same. Merely because someone has a lot of name recognition doesn't make him or her more talented than a lesser known act.

And Journey's tour numbers - and career record sales - DESTROY Pete Seger's. There isn't even a comparison.

[Rockindeano]

Seger would have to open for Journey. He's not that significant a draw without another major act on the ticket...and besides, his music all sounds exactly the same. Boring.

The Outfield. Now THAT is a GREAT idea.

I thought you were joking but see no 's.

I think Seger will do just fine without another major act. You have to be the first person I have ever heard compare the Outfield over Bob Seger. I am shocked really.

Talent-wise, I will take Spinks and the Boys ANY DAY over Seger, most of whose songs sound exactly the same. Merely because someone has a lot of name recognition doesn't make him or her more talented than a lesser known act.

And Journey's tour numbers - and career record sales - DESTROY Pete Seger's. There isn't even a comparison.

Pete Segers? You mean Pete Seegers or did you mean Bob Seger. Um, Bob is in the Hall of Fame whereas Journey ain't. I can guarantee you if Seger tours alone without an opening act and Journey does too, Seger will easily outsell Journey, easily. He is a poor man's Springsteen, like Lights1961 said, a Midwest version of the E Street Band. Seger is extremely talented and popular. Again, in rock n roll circles, not pop, if you are talented, then you are probably popular...there is a correlation. Relax Deb, I know your precious Mr Big is somewhat talented, but they don't scratch the surface with regards to Journey, Seger or Bruce.

The Silver Bullet band is incredible live. The Outfield, as much as I think they are decent, are terrible live, as many others here have already stated.

[Seven Wishes2]

Two people say they've seen them live and now they're not good?

Anyway, Seger is VERY overrated. It all sounds like the same, never-ending, boring song.

[RedWingFan]

Um, Bob is in the Hall of Fame whereas Journey ain't. I can guarantee you if Seger tours alone without an opening act and Journey does too, Seger will easily outsell Journey, easily. He is a poor man's Springsteen, like Lights1961 said, a Midwest version of the E Street Band. Seger is extremely talented and popular. Again, in rock n roll circles, not pop, if you are talented, then you are probably popular...there is a correlation.

Not to mention the fact that Seger doesn't look for 4 other bands every year to tour with and saturate the market in order to make a buck. Attending a Seger concert is viewed upon as a true event. (at least it is here in his homestate)

The Outfield, as much as I think they are decent, are terrible live, as many others here have already stated.

The only time I heard the Outfield play live was on the drive to or from work in the middle of the night years and years ago. A local station here would air Mancow and he had them play in the studio. He built them up big time saying how big of a fan he was and how great their first couple of cd's were.

They then played one of those classic tunes accoustically. I have a few Outfield cd's and I have to admit, that performance was horrible. When they finished nobody in the studio even applauded. Mancow just played an audio clip of crickets chirping.

It was pretty funny. After they left Mancow, apologized to the audience and said he was shocked how horrible they were.

[Don]

Sweet will be opening for Journey at some of the South/Latin America shows in March & April. Night Ranger will hop on board in Mexico and Puerto Rico.

[Hollywood]

Night Ranger has not really done any of these package tours. They have not really toured with Journey except one or two dates here and there. I know that Night Ranger is looking to make this year a big one as they are celebrating their 30th anniversary and they will have a new record. So I think they will be one of the bands this summer in the US and they are playing the two Nevada dates as well.

The could make it an all bay area tour and have Mr. Big come out. That would be a dream line up for me, but it seems unrealistic. Who knows.

[Andrew]

I want to see another Journey/Def Leppard tour!

NOPE.

[Andrew]

Night Ranger has not really done any of these package tours. They have not really toured with Journey except one or two dates here and there. I know that Night Ranger is looking to make this year a big one as they are celebrating their 30th anniversary and they will have a new record. So I think they will be one of the bands this summer in the US and they are playing the two Nevada dates as well.

Mmmmmmm....

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Night Ranger has not really done any of these package tours. They have not really toured with Journey except one or two dates here and there. I know that Night Ranger is looking to make this year a big one as they are celebrating their 30th anniversary and they will have a new record. So I think they will be one of the bands this summer in the US and they are playing the two Nevada dates as well.

Mmmmmmm....

I am 100% in support of a Journey/Night Ranger bill. I can envision Jack Blades coming out to do a song off Journey's new album he helped co-write... but I know that's wishful thinking.

[S2M]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

[FamilyMan]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

If there were new bands out there on par with NR or Journey, I'd welcome them. But the new groups that the labels want to trot out there today can't carry Journey's jock.

[S2M]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

If there were new bands out there on par with NR or Journey, I'd welcome them. But the new groups that the labels want to trot out there today can't carry Journey's jock.

Ok, name some of the garbage groups that you are refering to....

[kgdjpubs]

Night Ranger has not really done any of these package tours. They have not really toured with Journey except one or two dates here and there. I know that Night Ranger is looking to make this year a big one as they are celebrating their 30th anniversary and they will have a new record. So I think they will be one of the bands this summer in the US and they are playing the two Nevada dates as well.

I guess NC must have been one of the few markets that got Night Ranger on the last tour. By the audience reaction, I'm not sure NR sold any tickets at all--and this was an audience that went ballistic when Journey came on. Still, it's a good combo and Night Ranger puts on a fun live show. Just not sure they have much of a draw for ticket sales.

[superreverb]

I wish Neal would consider someone like Lucinda Williams or George Jones or John Prine or the Chieftains or Ry Cooder or Monsters of Folk, dang I've got a whole bunch I'm thinking of but *sigh* that will never happen I suppose. I can imagine him playing with Lucinda Williams or Dwight Yoakum--I think he would be great with any of these musicians..

Well you never know... he might do a Lucinda collaboration, his roots are blues, and it sounds like he HAS been hanging around Nashville with Cain. Mixing the Journey record

[fredinator]

Hmmm, does she live in Memphis or Nashville? He would have so much fun playing with her--what an awesome talent--I just love her stuff. You haven't heard anything like that have you (since you live in that area)? **Sigh** I wish he would post something...

[NoMoreTails]

Not interested in Night Ranger again...on the last tour with Journey they did a cover medley instead of any a several of their own tunes that should have been played. Jack talked more than Kevin Cronin so there's another few minutes that could have been used for another song. Brad Gillis poses more than he plays.

[RedWingFan]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

[Arkansas]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

Like 'Muse' maybe?


later~

[Don]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

Like 'Muse' maybe?


later~

Muse was just headlining Europe, they don't need Journey. Granted, they opened for U2 but that's a different story.

Journey HAS to have separation, status wise in their package, so look for something like Night Ranger/Scandal or something like that.

[kgdjpubs]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

Like 'Muse' maybe?


later~

Muse was just headlining Europe, they don't need Journey. Granted, they opened for U2 but that's a different story.

what kind of crowds are they drawing in the US though? There isn't a law that says you have to play with the same band in both the US and UK.

As a wild suggestion....Rob Thomas. He was only filling 5k seat venues on the last solo tour. Matchbox Twenty was about 10-12k. Journey is probably good for 15-18k by themselves. Put them and Journey together on a dual bill, and you might be able to get the big 25-30k seat arenas.

[Don]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

Like 'Muse' maybe?


later~

Muse was just headlining Europe, they don't need Journey. Granted, they opened for U2 but that's a different story.

what kind of crowds are they drawing in the US though? There isn't a law that says you have to play with the same band in both the US and UK.

As a wild suggestion....Rob Thomas. He was only filling 5k seat venues on the last solo tour. Matchbox Twenty was about 10-12k. Journey is probably good for 15-18k by themselves. Put them and Journey together on a dual bill, and you might be able to get the big 25-30k seat arenas.

Touring with their own opening act (Silversun Pickups) , Muse sold out Madison Square Garden last year. Actually all of their US dates did very well, though the number of shows were limited due to their commitment to tour with U2 in the summer. Muse has a huge stage setup with lasers and all the works so that's just something else to take into account with them touring with someone like Journey who carries their own rig.

[kgdjpubs]

Serious question, no flaming. Why does everybody want to see an act they've heard for 30 years? I mean the headliner can be the dinosaur act, but tour with a new, up and coming act. Nostalgia aside - we are in our late 30s, 40s, and in some cases 50s people....Sister Christian for the 3,000 time, or a new band that you could get into? Sad to say I think I know how this question will turn out....

Like 'Muse' maybe?


later~

Muse was just headlining Europe, they don't need Journey. Granted, they opened for U2 but that's a different story.

what kind of crowds are they drawing in the US though? There isn't a law that says you have to play with the same band in both the US and UK.

As a wild suggestion....Rob Thomas. He was only filling 5k seat venues on the last solo tour. Matchbox Twenty was about 10-12k. Journey is probably good for 15-18k by themselves. Put them and Journey together on a dual bill, and you might be able to get the big 25-30k seat arenas.

Touring with their own opening act (Silversun Pickups) , Muse sold out Madison Square Garden last year. Actually all of their US dates were sold out, though the number of shows were limited due to their commitment to tour with U2 in the summer. Muse has a huge stage setup with lasers and all the works so that's just something else to take into account with them touring with someone like Journey who carries their own rig.

alright, that knocks them out of the picture. I was thinking they were pretty big, although I can't recall a song they have done.

[Don]

alright, that knocks them out of the picture. I was thinking they were pretty big, although I can't recall a song they have done.

Muse is becoming like a modern day Pink Floyd. Big stage shows, moody British music and no one seems to know more than two or three songs that they sing.

[superreverb]

Hmmm, does she live in Memphis or Nashville? He would have so much fun playing with her--what an awesome talent--I just love her stuff. You haven't heard anything like that have you (since you live in that area)? **Sigh** I wish he would post something...

I "thought" She lived in Nashville... I know she plays there all the time, and I've met several musicians from Nashville that play with her, but, she might just have a Nashville band, and live somewhere else? That is pretty common for Nashville.

I really only know, what I know, from lurking / reading around here. I've always been a Journey fan.... but some of you guys, Deeno, have actually worked with the band, Know Neal, and Arnel, and SO much "Inside business" about record deals, and record sales, and how the show works.. I'm fascinated really... i lurk and read more then I post, but some of this stuff is like a real inside look behind the curtain.

I'm actually moving to Nashville this spring. Perhaps i'll have a Cain Sighting when they're not on the road.

[steveo777]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

[Don]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

The real deal, yet they had to re-record all the vocal tracks again, throwing the time line into disarray to the point of bringing in someone else to mix the disc because the NEW KING didn't feel the need to work on his accent issues during his down time.

[steveo777]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

The real deal, yet they had to re-record all the vocal tracks again, throwing the time line into disarray to the point of bringing in someone else to mix the disc because the NEW KING didn't feel the need to work on his accent issues during his down time.

That may be true but at least they cared enough to clean up the finished product. That said, Neal needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Arnel, if he hasn't already.
There is a great talent there if they could get him to embrace the tune-up.

[portland]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

The real deal, yet they had to re-record all the vocal tracks again, throwing the time line into disarray to the point of bringing in someone else to mix the disc because the NEW KING didn't feel the need to work on his accent issues during his down time.

It's hard to be the "new" king......

[Don]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

The real deal, yet they had to re-record all the vocal tracks again, throwing the time line into disarray to the point of bringing in someone else to mix the disc because the NEW KING didn't feel the need to work on his accent issues during his down time.

That may be true but at least they cared enough to clean up the finished product. That said, Neal needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with Arnel, if he hasn't already.
There is a great talent there if they could get him to embrace the tune-up.

All hinges on the success of this album. There will be no pack in disc, just the 12 songs. Journey will have their own display for it at Wal-Mart which is great but when people flip the box over and don't see DSB on the track listing, that will be moment of truth.

I think if it sells as much as Arrival it could be considered a success. If it makes Gold, I can even see the band feeling emboldened enough to consider doing a double disc album afterwards.
On the flipside, if it debuts at #1, only to free fall past the Greatest Hits after a month, then I think Journey concentrates on becoming primarily a touring band from that point forward.

[Deb]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

Would have liked have heard at least one new Soto-fronted Journey album.