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Postby Don » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:27 am

Foreigner just mentioned the Denmark gig on their offical site AND FaceBook page, as they have done with every show announced for this tour.

Journey's social media skills definitely need an overhaul here.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:33 am

Don wrote:Foreigner just mentioned the Denmark gig on their offical site AND FaceBook page, as they have done with every show announced for this tour.

Journey's social media skills definitely need an overhaul here.


They have NEVER been progressive with internet communication, even when CJ and Mark were running the show. by the way, we need to find out why they got run from Journey inc. I can remember mark making up stories about suing me when tapegate was ongoing, and CJ muddying up my blog with spam. LOL, I don't blame them at all, they were just foolwed by the whole fakery of Journey. To think Journey never apologized to anyone, even Augeri, and the fact a man died during all of this really sums up Journey's character. They don't give a rats ass about anyone other than themselves, no one.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:47 am

Here ya go:


VH1 Classic and Palladia present JOURNEY: ACONVERSATION WITH THEIR FANS., premiering this Friday, February 4, at 9:00 pm ET.

In this 30-minute TV program, fans ask the members of Journey thought-provoking questions in the intimate New York City studios of Sirius XM Radio, and the band discusses the music of Escape and their new album, Revelation. Hosted by music critic Daniel Scropos, fan questions are intercut with highlights from the Revelations documentary, the Cow Palace concert, and the 2009 Songs >From The Revelations Warfield concert, and rare archival footage from 1982-1986.
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:53 am

Rockindeano wrote:Here ya go:


VH1 Classic and Palladia present JOURNEY: ACONVERSATION WITH THEIR FANS., premiering this Friday, February 4, at 9:00 pm ET.

In this 30-minute TV program, fans ask the members of Journey thought-provoking questions in the intimate New York City studios of Sirius XM Radio, and the band discusses the music of Escape and their new album, Revelation. Hosted by music critic Daniel Scropos, fan questions are intercut with highlights from the Revelations documentary, the Cow Palace concert, and the 2009 Songs >From The Revelations Warfield concert, and rare archival footage from 1982-1986.


Cow Palace? Oh, the Oprah show. :wink:
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Postby Don » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:54 am

Funny, I just saw this on Palladia's FB page;

Bruce Springsteen: A Conversation With His Fans
Friday, 2/4 at 9pm EST Fans ask Bruce thought-provoking questions in an intimate studio setting. Bruce discusses the music of Darkness on the Edge of Town and his new album The Promise, in this special broadcast hosted by music critic Dave Marsh. Fan questions are intercut with highlights from the box set, The Promise documentary, the Paramount Theater concert, the 2010 Songs From The Promise concert and rare archival footage from 1978.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:59 am

There are certainly some great ideas being posted. I'd love to see them do something similar, but I just don't see it happening. It's almost like it would be better for the band to flop and have to resort to the grass roots level of promotion. But, at that point, they may just pack it up and call it a day. I'd really love to hear an estimate of how long each member honestly sees himself remaining in Journey. I say they have 4-6 years left.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:03 am

Don wrote:Funny, I just saw this on Palladia's FB page;

Bruce Springsteen: A Conversation With His Fans
Friday, 2/4 at 9pm EST Fans ask Bruce thought-provoking questions in an intimate studio setting. Bruce discusses the music of Darkness on the Edge of Town and his new album The Promise, in this special broadcast hosted by music critic Dave Marsh. Fan questions are intercut with highlights from the box set, The Promise documentary, the Paramount Theater concert, the 2010 Songs From The Promise concert and rare archival footage from 1978.


Don, I copied this and changed the words. Nice catch. my point is, if Bruce can do this, why not Journey?
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Postby S2M » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:36 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Don wrote:Funny, I just saw this on Palladia's FB page;

Bruce Springsteen: A Conversation With His Fans
Friday, 2/4 at 9pm EST Fans ask Bruce thought-provoking questions in an intimate studio setting. Bruce discusses the music of Darkness on the Edge of Town and his new album The Promise, in this special broadcast hosted by music critic Dave Marsh. Fan questions are intercut with highlights from the box set, The Promise documentary, the Paramount Theater concert, the 2010 Songs From The Promise concert and rare archival footage from 1978.


Don, I copied this and changed the words. Nice catch. my point is, if Bruce can do this, why not Journey?


I saw a Billy Joel show like this live at PPAC(Providence Performing Arts Center). 'An Evening with Billy Joel'...he really didn't play full songs. He just talked about the music business, and answered questions about how songs came about. A LOT of backstory stuff about his brother-in-law that fucked him out of millions.

Journey will NEVER do this. They are trying to hang on to that Higgs Boson worth of integrity/legacy.
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Postby SF-Dano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:51 am

steveo777 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Here ya go:


VH1 Classic and Palladia present JOURNEY: ACONVERSATION WITH THEIR FANS., premiering this Friday, February 4, at 9:00 pm ET.

In this 30-minute TV program, fans ask the members of Journey thought-provoking questions in the intimate New York City studios of Sirius XM Radio, and the band discusses the music of Escape and their new album, Revelation. Hosted by music critic Daniel Scropos, fan questions are intercut with highlights from the Revelations documentary, the Cow Palace concert, and the 2009 Songs >From The Revelations Warfield concert, and rare archival footage from 1982-1986.


Cow Palace? Oh, the Oprah show. :wink:


The Cow Palace was a great place to see a rock concert in SF back in the 80s and early 90s. Don't think they hold concerts there anymore. Many a night spent tailgaiting in the Cow Palace parking lot before a show. Not quite as big as the arena's are these days, it was still a great place for a show.

The Warfield, as far as smaller club type venues go, is my favorite place for a club concert in the city. Not a bad seat in the house and the sound is spectacular. The bar is great too. 8)

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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:45 am

How about this idea? Was aired last week on Kelly and Regis.

Half way through, you'll get an explanation as to what he DID for his fans and HOW his fans participated. The guy sounds as good as ever. Blows Eric Martin away Deb.

http://www.dadt.com/live/special/livestage/
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:05 am

Rockindeano wrote:How about this idea? Was aired last week on Kelly and Regis.

Half way through, you'll get an explanation as to what he DID for his fans and HOW his fans participated. The guy sounds as good as ever. Blows Eric Martin away Deb.

http://www.dadt.com/live/special/livestage/


Bryan sounds great, but he needs to plug back in asap. That stripped down shit does nothing for me, and that first song is gay, even by Journey standards! :lol:
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Postby slucero » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:13 am

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Don wrote:Foreigner seems to have done every NASCAR race out there, and the Improv on Ice on NBC, and the George Lopez show AND they are very active on Facebook, where as Journey should shutter that crap 'Official' site they have, create a 'Real' Facebook page for the band, not 10 million fan pages run by administrators who post in broken English, and have some type of online contests to get more people in the loop that would ignore the band's page otherwise.



Woah Woah Woah...let's not forget about their amazing virtual presence on "Second Life"...I kid, is that thing still up?


22 million Residents and yes, Second Life is alive, but JRNY has no presence there other than Tribute Bands who play "live concert soundtracks" and "puppet" the musicians. :wink: SL brought JRNY an untapped Global and Virtual presence. *shrugs* I agree that every media medium should be used to promote ..Plurk/Twitter/FB/MySpace/Blogger/Flickr/YouTube etc. etc. With Websites becoming passe, and Social Media so popular and free, A Viral Revival is fairly inexpensive and certainly a good ROI :wink:


I know Second Life was around, but Journey did at one time have a virtual island I think it was called - I assume it's still there


Journey Island in Second Life has been gone as long as the old Journey website...

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Postby amaron » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:55 pm

I watched a couple of things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDg1pFIytS0

It shows that Neal could do something documentary style for the fans, but does he really WANT to?
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Postby fredinator » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:14 pm

I can't imagine that Neal would really be averse to trying new things but he may be the only one that wants to? If anyone can reinvent Journey it would be Neal. I don't know how he would do that--even with the little knowledge I have it is quite a quandry. He still seems very, very passionate about his music so if that is what he has on his mind it must be pretty tough for him... who knows? I am certainly presuming a lot of things, lol; in spite of all that as long as he keeps going anything he does is alright with me..
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Postby S2M » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:20 pm

Neal and Journey are the Stephen King of the music industry....living off their name and their past accomplishments. Journey hasn't been relevant, or put out anything worth listening to since Arrival - and then only 4 or 5 rockers were any good. Remember Me is the best post-Perry tune, and they shot that wad in '98.
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Postby slucero » Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:44 pm

"To Be Alive Again"... is a pretty great tune...

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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:41 pm

S2M wrote:Neal and Journey are the Stephen King of the music industry....living off their name and their past accomplishments. Journey hasn't been relevant, or put out anything worth listening to since Arrival - and then only 4 or 5 rockers were any good. Remember Me is the best post-Perry tune, and they shot that wad in '98.


Aww come on. Journey, as much as I despise them personally, are doing much better than anyone in the 80's not named Springsteen, Jovi or Metallica. They wipe the floor with REO, Styx, Boston, Kansas, Heart, et al. They lost arguably the greatest singer save Elvis, to ever open his mouth. They survived a year plus long stint as lip syncers and they are doing pretty well now. I would NOT say it is attributed to Pineda though. They rode the success of that fuckin DSB song to maintain some sort of spotlight on them. The Pineda factor is that the sob story brought some exposure in order to get on two chick shows(perfect match for Journey music- Oprah and Ellen)..and the whole damned Pinoy nation. Trust me you, they would have found a singer who could have pulled off Revelation as good as Pineda did. Not putting Pineda down, but Journey is where they are today because of hard work and DSB, NOT Pineda.

To sit here and continuosly slam them S2M is old tired and lame. You don't like em, fine, but to say they are talentless is a flat out lie. They thump bands like Def Lippard, and did so with Soto, who was fired in favour of Pineda. Soto led Journey crushed Lippard nightly. Don't believe me, read every newspaper review who did a review. They are one of the top 10 bands to play in the 80's and still play now. I really think if Perry were still with the band, they would be up there with Springsteen, Jovi, Metallica and ACDC. But he is not here and they are a couple notches below those mentioned. At some time, you have to put the hate away and just tip your hat to hard work....one cannot deny that Schon works his ass off. A douche for sure, piece of shit too, but a pretty solid guitar player and a workaholic. I still hate him, but have to salute the guy to what he does well.

PS- Can you imagine where Journey might be had they made a better choice than Augeri? Neal admitted he rushed that decision. It was not a very good choice at all, but he did give his all for most of his tenure. The guy just isn't very good at all. The music masked his shortcomings. An average voice singing great songs will get one by. Had Cain and Schon took a while and really looked and scoured for a good, a really strong singer, they could be almost into that upper echelon of rock.
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Postby slucero » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:44 pm

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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:04 am

Rockindeano wrote:
S2M wrote:Neal and Journey are the Stephen King of the music industry....living off their name and their past accomplishments. Journey hasn't been relevant, or put out anything worth listening to since Arrival - and then only 4 or 5 rockers were any good. Remember Me is the best post-Perry tune, and they shot that wad in '98.


Aww come on. Journey, as much as I despise them personally, are doing much better than anyone in the 80's not named Springsteen, Jovi or Metallica.

If this were true, could you tell me why Joe Elliott told Niel that Neil's band was opening every show of the tour. Hell Leppard could have saved some cash and told Shawn to work as their roadie crew if he wanted.
Rockindeano wrote:They thump bands like Def Lippard, and did so with Soto, who was fired in favour of Pineda. Soto led Journey crushed Lippard nightly.

Dude, you're hilarious. Remember that review of yours that stated Soto was BETTER than a Perry led Journey show? :lol:
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