How many times have you listened to Revelation?

[steveo777]

I started to listen to Revelation again yesterday, just so I can have it engrained in my mind again, so I can hear the new record and compare, not that I think there will be
any contest. Mainly want to compare the sonic qualities between the two.

[YoungJRNY]

Certainly more than 10. It was pretty much all I listened to through the duration of the summer whether taking a ride somewhere with distance or just quick stops here and there, Revelation was in there playing in some form or another. I haven't listened to it like I use to, maybe popping up here and there through a disc change but I still listen to Never Walk Away, Change for the Better, Wildest Dream, FITH and Turn Down the World Tonight.

[Archetype]

I like the five youtubed Eclipse songs A LOT more than anything on Revelation. I hope the whole album is as good. Revelation feels sort of generic to me now.

[Michigan Girl]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

[Don]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

You can't escape ROR, it and Street Talk have songs that get played in supermarkets every freakin' day.

[Michigan Girl]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

You can't escape ROR, it and Street Talk have songs that get played in supermarkets every freakin' day.

True ...somebody, besides me, must like that stuff!!

[S2M]

First of all, the true test of a song, album, artist - is not how many tickets they sell TODAY, or how many albums they sell TODAY. It is how many songs are played on the radio 20 years later....and I'm not talking about a station that whose programming format is so narrow that it would include songs from a certain year(but maybe that fits anyway).

Daughtry's first album lit up the charts. We going to be hearing any of his songs 20 years from now? How about Lady GaGa? Bieber? Hell no. I bet you won't hear a song even 10 years from now.

THAT is the true test of a quality recording artist.

[S2M]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

You can't escape ROR, it and Street Talk have songs that get played in supermarkets every freakin' day.

True ...somebody, besides me, must like that stuff!!

I love ST. I loathe 90% of FTLOSM, and ATW. ROR? I like about 6-7 songs. Positive Touch is whacked, and so is that other song about a Woman. Other than that - great stuff.

[Michigan Girl]

First of all, the true test of a song, album, artist - is not how many tickets they sell TODAY, or how many albums they sell TODAY. It is how many songs are played on the radio 20 years later....and I'm not talking about a station that whose programming format is so narrow that it would include songs from a certain year(but maybe that fits anyway).

Daughtry's first album lit up the charts. We going to be hearing any of his songs 20 years from now? How about Lady GaGa? Bieber? Hell no. I bet you won't hear a song even 10 years from now.

THAT is the true test of a quality recording artist.

I concur ...you know, NKOTB is still played heavily!!

[RocknRoll]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

I listened to ROR all the way through once. I finally bought it 3 or 4 years ago, I refused to buy it originally and don't particularly care of it. TBF a few more times, but again I don't particularly care for most of it.

[Michigan Girl]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

I listened to ROR all the way through once. I finally bought it 3 or 4 years ago, I refused to buy it originally and don't particularly care of it. TBF a few more times, but again I don't particularly care for most of it.

Are you familiar w/the songs, though ...I guess is my point ...they are recognizable, many of them ... to most fans?!?!

[VirgilTheart]

That's great. I remember the excitement I felt when MTV first played DSB (the initial promo from the Tokyo concert). Man, what a cool feeling to discover something that just sounded like it connected with you.

Of course, that started some the dysfunctionality that you are witnessing here, 30 years later in our little world at MR but you probably understand that already.
Journey on, Bro (or Broette)!

It's Bro. And I naturally understand.

A bit unrelated, but for most of high school I have had to feel alone among my peers for liking Journey. Two days ago I met this really nice girl during after school practice for the school musical, and out of nowhere she just started singing "Anyway You Want It", happy as can be. So I asked her about Journey and told her I saw 'em live. We had a nice conversation and it turns out she loved that sort of music.

First of all, the true test of a song, album, artist - is not how many tickets they sell TODAY, or how many albums they sell TODAY. It is how many songs are played on the radio 20 years later....and I'm not talking about a station that whose programming format is so narrow that it would include songs from a certain year(but maybe that fits anyway).

Daughtry's first album lit up the charts. We going to be hearing any of his songs 20 years from now? How about Lady GaGa? Bieber? Hell no. I bet you won't hear a song even 10 years from now.

THAT is the true test of a quality recording artist.

I don't deny this. You're absolutely correct. Again, Journey's done much better than Revelations (personally my favorite Journey albums are Infinity and Frontiers). But the thing is that I wasn't around when Perry was in Journey. Well, I was a little tyke when TBF came out, but Perry didn't tour with the band for that album, and any music that I didn't hear from a Disney film meant zilch to me.

IDK how old anyone here is, but I have a feeling that to me Revelations is, to some degree at least, what any of the classic Perry-era albums were to everyone else. I'm about to graduate high school. The "now"-factor of the current lineup makes me connect with it more than the Perry-era does, regardless of the inferior music.

[Michigan Girl]

That's great. I remember the excitement I felt when MTV first played DSB (the initial promo from the Tokyo concert). Man, what a cool feeling to discover something that just sounded like it connected with you.

Of course, that started some the dysfunctionality that you are witnessing here, 30 years later in our little world at MR but you probably understand that already.
Journey on, Bro (or Broette)!

It's Bro. And I naturally understand.

A bit unrelated, but for most of high school I have had to feel alone among my peers for liking Journey. Two days ago I met this really nice girl during after school practice for the school musical, and out of nowhere she just started singing "Anyway You Want It", happy as can be. So I asked her about Journey and told her I saw 'em live. We had a nice conversation and it turns out she loved that sort of music.

First of all, the true test of a song, album, artist - is not how many tickets they sell TODAY, or how many albums they sell TODAY. It is how many songs are played on the radio 20 years later....and I'm not talking about a station that whose programming format is so narrow that it would include songs from a certain year(but maybe that fits anyway).

Daughtry's first album lit up the charts. We going to be hearing any of his songs 20 years from now? How about Lady GaGa? Bieber? Hell no. I bet you won't hear a song even 10 years from now.

THAT is the true test of a quality recording artist.

I don't deny this. You're absolutely correct. Again, Journey's done much better than Revelations (personally my favorite Journey albums are Infinity and Frontiers). But the thing is that I wasn't around when Perry was in Journey. Well, I was a little tyke when TBF came out, but Perry didn't tour with the band for that album, and any music that I didn't hear from a Disney film meant zilch to me.

IDK how old anyone here is, but I have a feeling that to me Revelations is, to some degree at least, what any of the classic Perry-era albums were to everyone else. I'm about to graduate high school. The "now"-factor of the current lineup makes me connect with it more than the Perry-era does, regardless of the inferior music.

Welcome, young man ...I'm 72, but I can still read!!
My girls are Journey fans too, but they very much connect w/the Perry years for some reason, they're 45 ...49!!
PS~REVELATION ...know the proper name of the LP you connect most with!!
Seriously ...good to have some fresh meat!!

[VirgilTheart]

Welcome, young man ...I'm 72, but I can still read!!
My girls are Journey fans too, but they very much connect w/the Perry years for some reason, they're 45 ...49!!

Well it is their time after all.

PS~REVELATION ...know the proper name of the LP you connect most with!!
Seriously ...good to have some fresh meat!!

I always get the names of the album and the last book of the Bible mixed up.
But nevertheless, thank you very much for the warm welcome!

[RocknRoll]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

I listened to ROR all the way through once. I finally bought it 3 or 4 years ago, I refused to buy it originally and don't particularly care of it. TBF a few more times, but again I don't particularly care for most of it.

Are you familiar w/the songs, though ...I guess is my point ...they are recognizable, many of them ... to most fans?!?!

...but of course, although I couldn't name the songs on ROR except GCHI & IBAWY since they are played in concert. Let's see TBF is WYLAW and...

OK, now I'm actually going to have to listen to both of them all the way through again, so make that twice for ROR!!

I just looked at the track list and missed WCTNGOF, I guess I do like a few.

[RedWingFan]

PS~REVELATION ...know the proper name of the LP you connect most with!!
Seriously ...good to have some fresh meat!!

How telling is that? Have you ever heard someone refer to "Evolutions"? "Raised On Radios"? "Departures"? "Frontier"?

[Don]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

I listened to ROR all the way through once. I finally bought it 3 or 4 years ago, I refused to buy it originally and don't particularly care of it. TBF a few more times, but again I don't particularly care for most of it.

Are you familiar w/the songs, though ...I guess is my point ...they are recognizable, many of them ... to most fans?!?!

...but of course, although I couldn't name the songs on ROR except GCHI & IBAWY since they are played in concert. Let's see TBF is WYLAW and...

OK, now I'm actually going to have to listen to both of them all the way through again, so make that twice for ROR!!

I just looked at the track list and missed WCTNGOF, I guess I do like a few.

A Concert staple, Be Good To Yourself came off of ROR also. So that would be four songs you probably know, not even including the Top 20 hit Suzanne.

[VirgilTheart]

How telling is that? Have you ever heard someone refer to "Evolutions"? "Raised On Radios"? "Departures"? "Frontier"?

Oi, both "Revelation" and "The Book of Revelations" are things I enjoy a lot! I get the two mixed up all the time, even if it is foolish of me.

And again, "Revelation" isn't my favorite Journey album; it's just the one I listen to the most and the line-up I connect with. [/i]

[RocknRoll]

With the exception of a handful of people in this thread, less than 50% at this point, it's
sad that one can count how many times they've listened to this LP, an LP from
a lineup most just love ...or to have to pull it out a couple of years
later to remember what it sounded like. I'll bet most of you aren't even able to say that about
TBF or ROR, albums you claim to hate!! Interesting!!

I listened to ROR all the way through once. I finally bought it 3 or 4 years ago, I refused to buy it originally and don't particularly care of it. TBF a few more times, but again I don't particularly care for most of it.

Are you familiar w/the songs, though ...I guess is my point ...they are recognizable, many of them ... to most fans?!?!

...but of course, although I couldn't name the songs on ROR except GCHI & IBAWY since they are played in concert. Let's see TBF is WYLAW and...

OK, now I'm actually going to have to listen to both of them all the way through again, so make that twice for ROR!!

I just looked at the track list and missed WCTNGOF, I guess I do like a few.

A Concert staple, Be Good To Yourself came off of ROR also. So that would be four songs you probably know, not even including the Top 20 hit Suzanne.

Yup, I missed that one, but I wouldn't miss it in concert!

[Glenn]

I'm gonna start playing it again for a few reasons...One is to have a fresh comparison to Eclipse.

[The_Noble_Cause]

"Change for the Better" is the punchiest track on the album - retro, but with a certain vitality. Wish there were more like this. In total, all the Rev rockers are very soft. Nothing like Arrival's "World Gone Wild" or "All the Things", or even Generations' "Out of Harm's Way"

[Babyblue]

Never have.

[Glenn]

"Change for the Better" is the punchiest track on the album - retro, but with a certain vitality. Wish there were more like this. In total, all the Rev rockers are very soft. Nothing like Arrival's "World Gone Wild" or "All the Things", or even Generations' "Out of Harm's Way"

Wildest Dream?

[The_Noble_Cause]

"Change for the Better" is the punchiest track on the album - retro, but with a certain vitality. Wish there were more like this. In total, all the Rev rockers are very soft. Nothing like Arrival's "World Gone Wild" or "All the Things", or even Generations' "Out of Harm's Way"

Wildest Dream?

Naw..like Monker has said, it sounds like a Survivor track. Very soft rock.

[Glenn]

"Change for the Better" is the punchiest track on the album - retro, but with a certain vitality. Wish there were more like this. In total, all the Rev rockers are very soft. Nothing like Arrival's "World Gone Wild" or "All the Things", or even Generations' "Out of Harm's Way"

Wildest Dream?

Naw..like Monker has said, it sounds like a Survivor track. Very soft rock.

I suggest another listen. Hell, the ending kicks more ass than
Survivor ever did (with Jamison).

Not trying to sell you on the song itself, but just how it
builds and is nuts at the end.

[jestor92]

If we're talking straight through I'd say in the 6-10 range. Nothing really stands to my ears on that album and to me it's thrown together batch of music. The lone good tracks on the album to my ears are Never Walk Away and Change For The Better. The rest of the album kind of sucks IMO.

Sunshower to my ears sounds like a rip off of Lights
Wildest Dream is boring, Augeri's Faith In the Heartland is much better than this version
After All These Years is a prototypical Cain ballad
The rest of the album I don't even remember what it sounded like because it bored me so much.

The instrumental is pretty cool though.

IMO the bands album out put in terms of quality has slowly gone down hill since Trial By Fire.

[steveo777]

If we're talking straight through I'd say in the 6-10 range. Nothing really stands to my ears on that album and to me it's thrown together batch of music. The lone good tracks on the album to my ears are Never Walk Away and Change For The Better. The rest of the album kind of sucks IMO.

Sunshower to my ears sounds like a rip off of Lights
Wildest Dream is boring, Augeri's Faith In the Heartland is much better than this version
After All These Years is a prototypical Cain ballad
The rest of the album I don't even remember what it sounded like because it bored me so much.

The instrumental is pretty cool though.

IMO the bands album out put in terms of quality has slowly gone down hill since Trial By Fire.

Neal understands this. That's why Eclipse is a masterpiece. Sounds like he lobbied for a long time to get a rocker out.
He said he loves this album, which probably means Cain doesn't.

[jestor92]

If we're talking straight through I'd say in the 6-10 range. Nothing really stands to my ears on that album and to me it's thrown together batch of music. The lone good tracks on the album to my ears are Never Walk Away and Change For The Better. The rest of the album kind of sucks IMO.

Sunshower to my ears sounds like a rip off of Lights
Wildest Dream is boring, Augeri's Faith In the Heartland is much better than this version
After All These Years is a prototypical Cain ballad
The rest of the album I don't even remember what it sounded like because it bored me so much.

The instrumental is pretty cool though.

IMO the bands album out put in terms of quality has slowly gone down hill since Trial By Fire.

Neal understands this. That's why Eclipse is a masterpiece. Sounds like he lobbied for a long time to get a rocker out.
He said he loves this album, which probably means Cain doesn't.

What artist doesn't say they love the upcoming album? Artists always say that this is their best album since 'insert top selling album here'. Schon, Cain, etc., aren't going to come out and say this album sucks because they want to move it.

[Majestic]

I often listen to this album, and think it's pretty good. Songwise, it doesn't quite beat Arrival, because Arrival had so many good songs, but the best songs on Revelation are better than the best songs on Arrival, in my opinion. Also, vocally, there is no comparing this incarnation of Journey to any of the former ones since Perry. Revelation has a few that I usually skip because they aren't quite good enough, but none that I actually hate. I think it might have been a touch better production wise if they could have taken the time with it that they have with Eclipse. I think Shirley is an adequate producer, but he is no perfectionist, and he is probably too busy and too much in demand to go for perfection even if he cared to. When you watch the live versions of some of these songs, you can see what I mean. If they had put the songs down as they later played them live, I think we could have had a master piece! Anyway, it's a great album, and I'm really anticipating Eclipse and adding to the repertoire of the Arnel fronted Journey.

[Jana]

"Change for the Better" is the punchiest track on the album - retro, but with a certain vitality. Wish there were more like this. In total, all the Rev rockers are very soft. Nothing like Arrival's "World Gone Wild" or "All the Things", or even Generations' "Out of Harm's Way"

Wildest Dream?

Naw..like Monker has said, it sounds like a Survivor track. Very soft rock.

I suggest another listen. Hell, the ending kicks more ass than
Survivor ever did (with Jamison).

Not trying to sell you on the song itself, but just how it
builds and is nuts at the end.

I agree.