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Postby Don » Thu May 12, 2011 10:40 am

Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


Yeah, people that aren't on the Glee side of the fence are saying not bad, but also are saying enough with this song already. James may very well have peeled the last piece of tread off of this tune.
Notice the crowd wasn't really exploding on the introduction like has been seen before. Honestly, I think it's one of his weakest performances on Idol. Not a good start to the night.
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Postby Deb » Thu May 12, 2011 10:44 am

Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


I agree, I quite liked that. One of the few times he hasn't tried to oversing, which is good cuz, his high end rock vocals wouldn't have suited it. I don't think he let himself get up into the stratosphere like he can, even once in that. Dug the Evolution class T and black tails too. 8)
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Postby Don » Thu May 12, 2011 10:46 am

Deb wrote:
Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


I agree, I quite liked that. One of the few times he hasn't tried to oversing, which is good cuz, his high end rock vocals wouldn't have suited it. But I don't think he let himself get up into the stratosphere like he can, even once in that. Dug the Evolution class T and black tails too. 8)


I can't agree with the liking, It really felt like he was lost and ended up going into full karaoke mode at the close.
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 12, 2011 10:46 am

I thought it sucked.
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Postby Don » Thu May 12, 2011 10:47 am

Saint John wrote:I thought it sucked.


In so many words, you are correct and I think this will be the final nail in the coffin for this tune, at least here in the states.
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Postby Triple S » Thu May 12, 2011 10:48 am

Don wrote:
Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


Yeah, people that aren't on the Glee side of the fence are saying not bad, but also are saying enough with this song already. James may very well have peeled the last piece of tread off of this tune.
Notice the crowd wasn't really exploding on the introduction like has been seen before.


I've never actually really listened to the Glee version - I just think James did it justice - wasn't great but he did seem to hit the notes quite easily and didn't do his signature screech at any point (thankfully).

I thought Haley sucked on her song - that growling :evil: - on a MJ song?
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Postby Don » Thu May 12, 2011 10:54 am

I think James might be done. An over-covered song that he was hyping up yesterday on making it his own, the voters might just say "bye bye and take that damn song with you."
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Postby portland » Thu May 12, 2011 11:05 am

Don wrote:
portland wrote:Just watched....ummmm I don't think you will see Neal on AI.


James wore the TAILS....and Randy said he paid homage to the One of the BEST voices in Rock....Steve Perry.


James did it justice! Good on him!


The comments coming in are 50/50, some alluding to this song being over done already and on the other side, Glee fans are giving James a bit of a bashing for his rendition.
God, is the Glee cover now the definitive version of the song?

Could this be the straw that finally break's this song's back?



It was more in the reply to Journey was going to be on AI to promote the new CD...I think that DSB is a song that won't die.


James did it justice...and well there are many who have attempted it.


and no....Perry is the version that is definitive version....game...set...match...over.


I am sure I need to shut up now.
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Postby portland » Thu May 12, 2011 11:08 am

Triple S wrote:
Don wrote:
Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


Yeah, people that aren't on the Glee side of the fence are saying not bad, but also are saying enough with this song already. James may very well have peeled the last piece of tread off of this tune.
Notice the crowd wasn't really exploding on the introduction like has been seen before.


I've never actually really listened to the Glee version - I just think James did it justice - wasn't great but he did seem to hit the notes quite easily and didn't do his signature screech at any point (thankfully).

I thought Haley sucked on her song - that growling :evil: - on a MJ song?



Ugh....agreed on Haley....not feeling it at all.
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Postby Aaron » Thu May 12, 2011 11:54 am

Take that Journey. This dude is the real deal. I called him the winner in week one and he continues to deliver. WOW. When Arnel's contract is up go get this kid and tune up a half step instead of down a half step. What a range with super capability. Get him Neal. And if it makes you feel better throw on the political, feel good, turrets syndrome, no job, young couple, young child, blah blah blah story to keep you in the head lines until someone hears him sing. Once that happens, you won't need bullshit to sell it.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu May 12, 2011 12:50 pm

Saint John wrote:I thought it sucked.


I can't believe someone FINALLY agrees with me on this! For FUCK's sake people... he is NOT a good singer! What qualities other than his vocal range (and being an Adam Lambert wannabe) do you like? He sucks ASS! :x He screams at the end of EVERY song, and has zero decent qualities to his voice. He has non-existent shitty vibrato, no decent tone, and no texture to his voice. He wouldn't even be qualified to hold Lambert's sweat rag, and I can't even STAND Lambert!

WTF do people get out of his vocals? :? I seriously don't get it. :x
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Postby JRNYMAN » Thu May 12, 2011 12:56 pm

Triple S wrote:
Don wrote:
Triple S wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY8H0Q_OpP4&feature=player_embedded

Not bad 8)


Yeah, people that aren't on the Glee side of the fence are saying not bad, but also are saying enough with this song already. James may very well have peeled the last piece of tread off of this tune.
Notice the crowd wasn't really exploding on the introduction like has been seen before.


I've never actually really listened to the Glee version - I just think James did it justice - wasn't great but he did seem to hit the notes quite easily and didn't do his signature screech at any point (thankfully).

Agreed. I also think Randy's history with Journey combined with his physical presence made James hold back a little bit and I'm sure added to his nervousness. Obviously it wasn't the best performance we've ever heard but it certainly wasn't the worst! You just have to scratch your head and wonder why some people actually post video of themselves on YT singing Karaoke. DSB's popularity in pop culture doesn't end with its being redone, remixed and re-recorded by professionals. It has carried to the seedy underbelly of Karaoke as well with hundreds of videos posted on YT.[/i]
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Postby Deb » Thu May 12, 2011 1:03 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
Saint John wrote:I thought it sucked.


I can't believe someone FINALLY agrees with me on this! For FUCK's sake people... he is NOT a good singer! What qualities other than his vocal range (and being an Adam Lambert wannabe) do you like? He sucks ASS! :x He screams at the end of EVERY song, and has zero decent qualities to his voice. He has non-existent shitty vibrato, no decent tone, and no texture to his voice. He wouldn't even be qualified to hold Lambert's sweat rag, and I can't even STAND Lambert!

WTF do people get out of his vocals? :? I seriously don't get it. :x


I think James has a good voice, but I do agree that Adam is a better singer and delivers his vocals much better, and has a much better stage presence too. Clip my friend took at a show last year, have a listen..... Sleepwalker ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-mtlmlgB7I
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Postby Andrew » Thu May 12, 2011 1:05 pm

Guy can sing, but that song wasn't suited to his voice....he's no Perry clone at all. Should have picked a darker J tune to sing if he was going to sing any.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu May 12, 2011 1:22 pm

Deb wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
Saint John wrote:I thought it sucked.


I can't believe someone FINALLY agrees with me on this! For FUCK's sake people... he is NOT a good singer! What qualities other than his vocal range (and being an Adam Lambert wannabe) do you like? He sucks ASS! :x He screams at the end of EVERY song, and has zero decent qualities to his voice. He has non-existent shitty vibrato, no decent tone, and no texture to his voice. He wouldn't even be qualified to hold Lambert's sweat rag, and I can't even STAND Lambert!

WTF do people get out of his vocals? :? I seriously don't get it. :x


I think James has a good voice, but I do agree that Adam is a better singer and delivers his vocals much better, and has a much better stage presence too. Clip my friend took at a show last year, have a listen..... Sleepwalker ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-mtlmlgB7I



That wasn't a bad vocal at all, and I honestly believe that it was 1000 times better than James's vocals tonight, or ANY night! The funny thing is that last season, I was saying how bad Adam sucked! Lol!!. He also liked to scream at the end of all of his songs, stuck his tongue out, and between that, and his constant outwardly gayness, I didn't like him at all! :? At least he had a little texture and vibrato to his vocals.

To me. if Haley doesn't win this show, I really don't think I'll watch this shit next year. The judges are so ridiculous that it's not even funny. They're all way too nice, and to me., all they've done is lick James and country boy's asses from the get-go, and criticize every female that hit's the stage. They criticize Haley's voice EVERY damn show, even though she could sign every one of those fuckers under the table. Seriously don't get this show anymore.. :?
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Postby Lora » Thu May 12, 2011 2:09 pm

Saint John wrote:I thought it sucked.


One more vote for the "omg that sucked" column.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 12, 2011 2:35 pm

I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.
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Postby JRNYMAN » Thu May 12, 2011 4:38 pm

steveo777 wrote:I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.

Actually Randy gave high props to both Perry and Journey. He called Journey one of the best bands ever and called Perry one of the best singers ever. It was very cool to hear people who are veterans in the music biz and who are highly respected by many to speak so highly of Journey as all 3 of them did.
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Postby Majestic » Thu May 12, 2011 4:46 pm

Don wrote:From all accounts, James is going to change up the strucure a little bit, something Journey frowned upon when the guy from X-Factor did it.
Durbin has [supposedly] crafted a "mind-blowing" version of the 1981 classic.

Depending how James does, this could be the moment where Fonzie jumps the shark and crashes into a barrel of flammable liquid which ignites and leaves him scarred for life.


Fonzie jumped the shark successfully, and was not scarred for life. What you talkin' about, Don?
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Postby Majestic » Thu May 12, 2011 4:56 pm

Here is the lowdown on Jame's performances: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObWG3VhlyeQ
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Postby jrnyjetster » Thu May 12, 2011 9:43 pm

JRNYMAN wrote:
steveo777 wrote:I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.

Actually Randy gave high props to both Perry and Journey. He called Journey one of the best bands ever and called Perry one of the best singers ever. It was very cool to hear people who are veterans in the music biz and who are highly respected by many to speak so highly of Journey as all 3 of them did.


That's all well and good and Randy always says he loves the Journey boys..BUT Steve Perry hasn't sang a fucking note publicly or been a part of this band since '98. Steve Perry WAS one of the best singers ever, past tense.
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 12, 2011 10:22 pm

JRNYMAN wrote:
steveo777 wrote:I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.

Actually Randy gave high props to both Perry and Journey. He called Journey one of the best bands ever and called Perry one of the best singers ever. It was very cool to hear people who are veterans in the music biz and who are highly respected by many to speak so highly of Journey as all 3 of them did.


If I'm not mistaken, Randy was/is the person for Sony/Columbia that handles the Journey account. So it's pretty much his job to prop up the Perry incarnation and Journey. But that's not to say that it's not a personal accolade when it comes to Perry and/or Journey.

Personally, I think he and Perry sucked as a combination and made Journey sound like fucking Tavares with gay songs like Girl Can't Help It, I'll Be Alright Without You and Happy To Give.
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Postby Greg » Thu May 12, 2011 10:49 pm

jrnyjetster wrote:
JRNYMAN wrote:
steveo777 wrote:I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.

Actually Randy gave high props to both Perry and Journey. He called Journey one of the best bands ever and called Perry one of the best singers ever. It was very cool to hear people who are veterans in the music biz and who are highly respected by many to speak so highly of Journey as all 3 of them did.


That's all well and good and Randy always says he loves the Journey boys..BUT Steve Perry hasn't sang a fucking note publicly or been a part of this band since '98. Steve Perry WAS one of the best singers ever, past tense.


Randy Jackson has every right to give props to Steve Perry in this respect, because outside of the musicianship of Schon and Cain, Perry is a huge reason why songs like Don't Stop Believing are as timeless as they are. Some of you guys want to sweep the band's successful past under the carpet because you want so much for this version of the band to outshine anything it has accomplished prior to AP. Sure, you have every right to wish such. But no matter how successful this version of Journey will be, they will never be able to escape their past success. Their catalog is who they are and who all fans and acquaintances of the band know them by. Like or not, that is the stone cold fact. James gave homage to not only Journey, but Steve Perry by wearing Perry's trademark tux jacket with the tails, so it's only fitting for Randy to have made the comments he made. Whether if you like Steve Perry or hate him, you should all feel some sort of pride knowing that this band has had a lot of positive exposure in the past several years, and there are probably a lot more fans of this band because of that exposure than what would have been if the band remained in some obscure setting. In all fairness, outside of the hardcore group of Journey fans, not many really know who Arnel Pineda is. The same could be said for Steve Augeri and certainly Jeff Scott Soto. It has nothing to do with any of them as human beings nor their vocal abilities, but the fact that when it's all said and done, the early 80's line-up will always be the one remembered.

With all of that said, I thought James pretty much just tried to make the song his own. I didn't care for his vocals because he doesn't have the voice for a Journey song such as that. Only thing I disagree with Andrew on is that singing any other Journey song would not have helped his chances, since for one thing...that night was about the contestants picking songs that inspired them, and two, the American Idol judges do not like their contestants singing songs that may be considered obscure or not popular enough with the American Idol crowd.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu May 12, 2011 11:19 pm

:shock:
Jeez, I don't even watch AI ...but that was a great effin' speech up there, Greg!!
Also, the truth!! I'm doing a little cheer for you right now!! :wink:
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Postby portland » Thu May 12, 2011 11:20 pm

Greg wrote:
jrnyjetster wrote:
JRNYMAN wrote:
steveo777 wrote:I didn't see it but my wife told me Tyler gave props to Journey, while Randy gave props to Perry.
Exactly what was Randy propping there?
All that will do is get GH a couple more million sales but doesn't help the current band, at least not
Deen and AP.

Actually Randy gave high props to both Perry and Journey. He called Journey one of the best bands ever and called Perry one of the best singers ever. It was very cool to hear people who are veterans in the music biz and who are highly respected by many to speak so highly of Journey as all 3 of them did.


That's all well and good and Randy always says he loves the Journey boys..BUT Steve Perry hasn't sang a fucking note publicly or been a part of this band since '98. Steve Perry WAS one of the best singers ever, past tense.


Randy Jackson has every right to give props to Steve Perry in this respect, because outside of the musicianship of Schon and Cain, Perry is a huge reason why songs like Don't Stop Believing are as timeless as they are. Some of you guys want to sweep the band's successful past under the carpet because you want so much for this version of the band to outshine anything it has accomplished prior to AP. Sure, you have every right to wish such. But no matter how successful this version of Journey will be, they will never be able to escape their past success. Their catalog is who they are and who all fans and acquaintances of the band know them by. Like or not, that is the stone cold fact. James gave homage to not only Journey, but Steve Perry by wearing Perry's trademark tux jacket with the tails, so it's only fitting for Randy to have made the comments he made. Whether if you like Steve Perry or hate him, you should all feel some sort of pride knowing that this band has had a lot of positive exposure in the past several years, and there are probably a lot more fans of this band because of that exposure than what would have been if the band remained in some obscure setting. In all fairness, outside of the hardcore group of Journey fans, not many really know who Arnel Pineda is. The same could be said for Steve Augeri and certainly Jeff Scott Soto. It has nothing to do with any of them as human beings nor their vocal abilities, but the fact that when it's all said and done, the early 80's line-up will always be the one remembered.

With all of that said, I thought James pretty much just tried to make the song his own. I didn't care for his vocals because he doesn't have the voice for a Journey song such as that. Only thing I disagree with Andrew on is that singing any other Journey song would not have helped his chances, since for one thing...that night was about the contestants picking songs that inspired them, and two, the American Idol judges do not like their contestants singing songs that may be considered obscure or not popular enough with the American Idol crowd.




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Postby livin2do » Thu May 12, 2011 11:21 pm

This was a fricking tribute band performance if I've ever seen one... in a Journey shirt AND tails?

DSB has been my favorite Journey song since I got Escape in 1981. The resurgence of the song is a blessing and a curse for the band. But if there is one thing that keeps coming to mind every time I hear a new cover of it, it's that it is such a shame that people will never hear the original voice and band perform it again. I wish Perry would come out of retirement to show the Gleeks and AI'ers how it's done.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu May 12, 2011 11:55 pm

Journey being put in the public consciousness on national TV can't be a bad thing for them, so
I guess it's a good thing. New album, new tour. It will be a good year for the band and good
for sales of the legacy music too. :D
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Postby Saint John » Thu May 12, 2011 11:59 pm

livin2do wrote:it is such a shame that people will never hear the original voice and band perform it again. I wish Perry would come out of retirement to show the Gleeks and AI'ers how it's done.


Oh, he did and it was just as awful ... if not more. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=504B3iR5M_8
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri May 13, 2011 12:04 am

Almost as bad as that huge SB fiasco ...
no practice, tired, sick and all of the
other excuses the pinheads came up with ...it's a bitch when
that happens ...SuperBowl~scheduled, planned, huge event ...
World Series performance ... unplanned, or should I say
unrehearsed or should I say ...spontaneous!?! :wink:
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