Reminder - Journey on CBS Sunday Morning

[FamilyMan]

I don't wander over here to the Journey forum often, but had to post about this. I love CBS Sunday Morning for many, many reasons, and this was just another stellar example of why. Really good segment and made me truly appreciate Arnel even more.

He just seems like the sweetest kid....and I do not mind his singing one bit!

Bugsy

Glad you're here - and thanks for the post!

[JRNYMAN]

You know our VERY own Rip Rokken gets MORE dang screen time thanks to the Manilla DVD. I saw he 3 or 4 times in the morning show clip! LOL

Yea, I think we owe him royalties!

I'll PM you an address to send the check.

Spoken like a true celebrity!

Hey Rip, I replied to your txt a few mins. ago. sorry for the delay, and thanks for taking care of that and following up for me. :thumbsup:

[JRNYMAN]

By the way, the person doing the interview, is that you Family Man? Just curious..

No I produced it.

Thanks for all the kind words folks, I'm glad you thought it was worth your time.

Well done Brother! Really a very nice piece which showed the band in a very positive and upbeat light. Thanks!

Steve

[The_Noble_Cause]

I thought Neal was looking for a replacement for Augeri, not Steve Perry. And the disgusting whitewashing of the past decade continues...
Frankly, I am tired of this band hiding behind the stories of their downtrodden frontman. Augeri worked for the GAP, Arnel ate grubs and drank out of a toilet in a public park. So what? Who cares? Why is it when every other band gets legit publicity it's about the music, but with this band, it's always about everything BUT the music? Would anyone watching this segment come away knowing that Eclipse is a different direction? Otherwise, nice piece.

[portland]

and the You Tube story lives on and on and on...and WTF is with the sunglasses....Neal it's a interview lets see the peepers! Where was Ross on vacation that week?



Nice to see AP giving back.....he has used this to really make a difference.

Really? You're gonna bitch about that? For starters, is it really a big deal about the shades? Many do it for a varity of reasons. Second, so they include the you tube thing for like 10 seconds.

I thought that was a positive review coming from me?? Geesh!

[portland]

I thought Neal was looking for a replacement for Augeri, not Steve Perry. And the disgusting whitewashing of the past decade continues...
Frankly, I am tired of this band hiding behind the stories of their downtrodden frontman. Augeri worked for the GAP, Arnel ate grubs and drank out of a toilet in a public park. So what? Who cares? Why is it when every other band gets legit publicity it's about the music, but with this band, it's always about everything BUT the music? Would anyone watching this segment come away knowing that Eclipse is a different direction? Otherwise, nice piece.

Did you really expect anything different?

[RocknRoll]

I thought Neal was looking for a replacement for Augeri, not Steve Perry. And the disgusting whitewashing of the past decade continues...
Frankly, I am tired of this band hiding behind the stories of their downtrodden frontman. Augeri worked for the GAP, Arnel ate grubs and drank out of a toilet in a public park. So what? Who cares? Why is it when every other band gets legit publicity it's about the music, but with this band, it's always about everything BUT the music? Would anyone watching this segment come away knowing that Eclipse is a different direction? Otherwise, nice piece.

Well...this was a 10 minute segment around Don't Stop Believin' not the history of the band. I'm bettin' they had only 10 minutes. I think CBS did an excellent job on the history of the song and where it is today and then tying the song into Arnel's story. IT WORKS!! It was a logical way to end the piece and then throw in Eclipse. I thought it was fantastic, but to each his own.

I agree with you concerning the bit about replacing Perry. BAD!

[Rip Rokken]

By the way, the person doing the interview, is that you Family Man? Just curious..

No I produced it.

Thanks for all the kind words folks, I'm glad you thought it was worth your time.

Heck, I didn't catch this earlier, and hence the irony in your royalties joke. Very well done segment, man! Thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

[Memorex]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

[RocknRoll]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

In that case Steve would probably insist on approving the entire segment. Which means we would have had NOTHING!

[FamilyMan]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

[FamilyMan]

By the way, the person doing the interview, is that you Family Man? Just curious..

No I produced it.

Thanks for all the kind words folks, I'm glad you thought it was worth your time.

Heck, I didn't catch this earlier, and hence the irony in your royalties joke. Very well done segment, man! Thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

Thanks Rip

[steveo777]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

[FamilyMan]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Not sure loyalty is really what he's after, Steveo. I think he genuinely appreciates the sentiment, but let's face it -- for most of us fans, whatever he gives will never be enough.
So he just stays quiet and private.

[steveo777]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Not sure loyalty is really what he's after, Steveo. I think he genuinely appreciates the sentiment, but let's face it -- for most of us fans, whatever he gives will never be enough.
So he just stays quiet and private.

How hard would it have been to make a comment or provide some feedback, as well as just say a few words and let people know where he stands, then be done with it?
He could just thank his fans for the years and state that he no longer sings and be done with it. It's not that hard, but then again, maybe it is for him. The continued BS
rumors of him coming with new music are perpetuated because he allows it to go on. Steve could pass the torch and validate the band's current efforts with just a few
words. Of course he doesn't have to and he knows this. The money still cometh no matter what he does or doesn't do.

BTW, FamilyMan....great job! I enjoyed the piece.

[FamilyMan]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Not sure loyalty is really what he's after, Steveo. I think he genuinely appreciates the sentiment, but let's face it -- for most of us fans, whatever he gives will never be enough.
So he just stays quiet and private.

How hard would it have been to make a comment or provide some feedback, as well as just say a few words and let people know where he stands, then be done with it?
He could just thank his fans for the years and state that he no longer sings and be done with it. It's not that hard, but then again, maybe it is for him. The continued BS
rumors of him coming with new music are perpetuated because he allows it to go on.

BTW, FamilyMan....great job! I enjoyed the piece.

Thanks very much.

[slucero]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Most likely SP realizes he's had his moment.. and that this is Arnel's moment... and to interject himself would appear to some as SP trying to steal some of AP's thunder...

SP's legacy is always front and center in the Journey story... whether Journey or anyone else likes it or not..

[swataz]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Most likely SP realizes he's had his moment.. and that this is Arnel's moment... and to interject himself would appear to some as SP trying to steal some of AP's thunder...

SP's legacy is always front and center in the Journey story... whether Journey or anyone else likes it or not..

I think by not interjecting himself into this iteration of Journey's media attention is the right way to go, for whatever reason he did it. Truth be told it seems like he gets shit whether he does or doesn't, ya know? He is an ass hat for declining comment, etc. and dissing the legacy, or he is an pompous jerk for trying to step into Arnel's limelight. He can't win!

[steveo777]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Most likely SP realizes he's had his moment.. and that this is Arnel's moment... and to interject himself would appear to some as SP trying to steal some of AP's thunder...

SP's legacy is always front and center in the Journey story... whether Journey or anyone else likes it or not..

I think by not interjecting himself into this iteration of Journey's media attention is the right way to go, for whatever reason he did it. Truth be told it seems like he gets shit whether he does or doesn't, ya know? He is an ass hat for declining comment, etc. and dissing the legacy, or he is an pompous jerk for trying to step into Arnel's limelight. He can't win!

I can see both sides on this. And maybe this segment on CBS would have not been the right place, but it would still be nice to hear from Steve and just get closure, pass the torch, etc. He might just hate them all too and not feel they are worthy. I would like to doubt that is true.

[Don]

There seems to be this need from some fans for Perry to validate Pineda. Why?
I think there is some absurd logic floating about that believes Perry's stamp of approval on this current line up will somehow bring back all the '80s fans that have jumped ship over the years, and that the band will suddenly become as big as U2 or Bon Jovi are, playing Stadiums again and raking in over a hundred million a year and so on and so on.
Not that a Perry endorsement would cause anything significant to happen anyway but it's Nomota that needs to promote this lineup and this new album and so forth.
Seeing the bang up job they did getting the word out about Eclipse, it's obvious that the current Journey needs help in that department but It's not Perry's (nor Herbie or any other past associate for that matter) duty to do that for them.

[slucero]

Perry passed the torch when he quit.. Augeri picked it up and carried it longer than Perry did...

[lights1961]

REALLY GREAT story and update regarding the DSB and how it came about... have a great new respect for AP...and why Journey kepps going... the midnight train to Georiga reference was classic... and that GLEE is the main reason that DSB has had a resurgents of an amazing MASS APPEAL. I think even Journey is amazed, by all the hoopla...

so if you think about it from this perspective... two songs...One open arms... was meant for John Waite and the Babys... he turned it down... and journey sold millions back in 1981... and Coldplay turned down Glee and journey made millions almost 30 years later... lightning striking twice for the band, is great!!

and it sounds like everymans Journey will be released later this year... that should be one great documentary...


Rick

[Greg]

There seems to be this need from some fans for Perry to validate Pineda. Why?
I think there is some absurd logic floating about that believes Perry's stamp of approval on this current line up will somehow bring back all the '80s fans that have jumped ship over the years, and that the band will suddenly become as big as U2 or Bon Jovi are, playing Stadiums again and raking in over a hundred million a year and so on and so on.
Not that a Perry endorsement would cause anything significant to happen anyway but it's Nomota that needs to promote this lineup and this new album and so forth.
Seeing the bang up job they did getting the word out about Eclipse, it's obvious that the current Journey needs help in that department but It's not Perry's (nor Herbie or any other past associate for that matter) duty to do that for them.

I agree with this 100%.

[FamilyMan]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Most likely SP realizes he's had his moment.. and that this is Arnel's moment... and to interject himself would appear to some as SP trying to steal some of AP's thunder...

SP's legacy is always front and center in the Journey story... whether Journey or anyone else likes it or not..

This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.

[fredinator]

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This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.[/quote]

W O W. This is huge (to me anyway)... I am so happy to hear this--thanks ever so much for sharing this Family Man...

[JRNYMAN]

Did anyone else have a WTF moment during the Cirque de Soleil story when the reporter started throwing out all those revenue numbers?! And then when he told the story and background of the founder and the fact that he's a BILLIONAIRE!!!!! Holy Shit! If I remember correctly, they said there was currently a Cirque show going on in 32 countries simultaneously! I had no idea!

[NoMoreTails]

It was a great segment. Would have enjoyed a comment from Steve and a clip of the Monster scene. Pretty amazing stats surrounding that song.

Would have enjoyed that myself. But Steve politely declined.

See, I don't get that. Not wanting to sing or no longer possessing the ability, I can understand, but the rest is just being an ass hat.
Way to diss the legacy......and his fans. How can the man deserve loyalty when he shows none in return?

Most likely SP realizes he's had his moment.. and that this is Arnel's moment... and to interject himself would appear to some as SP trying to steal some of AP's thunder...

SP's legacy is always front and center in the Journey story... whether Journey or anyone else likes it or not..

This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.

Great work on the segment FM! Good to have someone in the main stream media pushing for Journey!

In regards to your comment about Perry being a fan of Arnel, I would think this conclusion is perhaps a bit of a jump made from a "diplomatic" communication from Perry's camp in which an offer to appear was declined and which may have included some sort of statement like "...the touching story of Arnel's success"....or are we to assume that Perry has actually come right out and said he thinks Arnel is a great singer worthy of taking his place and that the once cracked stone is restored?

[Deb]

This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.

He actually said that?

[steveo777]

This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.

He actually said that?

Maybe he will go see a show and we'll see him in the audiance. Now that would be a trip!

[FamilyMan]

This is very true. I can tell you that SP is a fan of Arnel's, and seems perfectly happy to let him have his moment.

He actually said that?

Let's just say I have it on good authority (though not from his own lips).