Heading to Cleveland show tonight

[Saint John]

sycophantic Journey cockrider

[SF-Dano]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

[Saint John]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

I think it just depends on your perspective and background. Bill and Matt are both seasoned concert goers. However, I'd say that Matt is a bit more discerning, being a guitar player and musician. He's looking for nuances and technical issues. Bill is probably a bit more reflective of the casual fan, in that he probably feeds off of the crowd, its energy and is more interested in singing along than dissecting individual performances. In the end, neither is right and neither is wrong. They're just "hearing" different elements.

[Behshad]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

I think it just depends on your perspective and background. Bill and Matt are both seasoned concert goers. However, I'd say that Matt is a bit more discerning, being a guitar player and musician. He's looking for nuances and technical issues. Bill is probably a bit more reflective of the casual fan, in that he probably feeds off of the crowd, its energy and is more interested in singing along than dissecting individual performances. In the end, neither is right and neither is wrong. They're just "hearing" different elements.

you seem to have an intimate knowledge of both of these concert-goers? Is it by chance due to the fact that you attended a concert with both of these fellows couple years ago ?

[RedWingFan]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

[Saint John]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

I've long argued that "making the songs his own" (most parroted from the Soto crowd), is a really fucking stupid idea. The songs are sing along songs, and the cadence and delivery have to be like the original. That's why parts of the ROR tour were so awful. Perry destroyed the intimate element of the song by phrasing differently and changing the tempo. I listen to ROR bootlegs and I just don't hear "Journey" all the time. So I can definitely relate to this.

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

[Saint John]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

I think it just depends on your perspective and background. Bill and Matt are both seasoned concert goers. However, I'd say that Matt is a bit more discerning, being a guitar player and musician. He's looking for nuances and technical issues. Bill is probably a bit more reflective of the casual fan, in that he probably feeds off of the crowd, its energy and is more interested in singing along than dissecting individual performances. In the end, neither is right and neither is wrong. They're just "hearing" different elements.

you seem to have an intimate knowledge of both of these concert-goers? Is it by chance due to the fact that you attended a concert with both of these fellows couple years ago ?

I did not have sexual relations with these men.

[Behshad]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

I think it just depends on your perspective and background. Bill and Matt are both seasoned concert goers. However, I'd say that Matt is a bit more discerning, being a guitar player and musician. He's looking for nuances and technical issues. Bill is probably a bit more reflective of the casual fan, in that he probably feeds off of the crowd, its energy and is more interested in singing along than dissecting individual performances. In the end, neither is right and neither is wrong. They're just "hearing" different elements.

you seem to have an intimate knowledge of both of these concert-goers? Is it by chance due to the fact that you attended a concert with both of these fellows couple years ago ?

I did not have sexual relations with these men.

[brywool]

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

While I totally agree with this, then the Perry freaks would just say "OMG! He's just imitating Perry, can't he do anything himself??"

The guy cannot win. Period.

[StevePerryHair]

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

While I totally agree with this, then the Perry freaks would just say "OMG! He's just imitating Perry, can't he do anything himself??"

The guy cannot win. Period.

Yep, i agree, you'd hear he's a karaoke singer.... no one who has tried to step in SP's shoes can win it seems....it seems like from Augeri's following, he came close. There is no way to make every die hard fan happy though. It's the clueless masses who count for ticket sales, and most arent near as critical.

[Journey/Survivor]

I was disappointed that Journey only played 2 songs from Eclipse. At least they were 2 of the ones that I would most want to hear.

I don't remember the exact order that they played the songs, but here's the song list for the show...

Lights
Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Don't Stop Believin'
Stone In Love
Open Arms
Separate Ways
Send Her My Love
Faithfully
Only The Young
Ask The Lonely
Be Good To Yourself
City Of Hope
Edge Of The Moment

Only 14 songs?? They were playing 17...wtf

Even though I'm relatively happy with Journey's performance last night, it was NOT one of my favorite shows of theirs by any stretch.

They should have played at least 3 more songs on the night.

I wonder if perhaps the reason that they played a short set was because the humidity at the venue was off-the-charts high last night!!! I was drenched with sweat just sitting there, as were most of the crowd. All 3 bands made mention of how hot and sticky it was last night. I felt like I was in the rain-forest.

But, like I mentioned, I wish that Journey had played 2 more from Eclipse. And I wish they had thrown in something like "Edge Of the Blade" "Where Were You" "Chain Reaction" or one of the other more Rocking songs that wasn't a major hit.

[Ehwmatt]

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

While I totally agree with this, then the Perry freaks would just say "OMG! He's just imitating Perry, can't he do anything himself??"

The guy cannot win. Period.

Yep, i agree, you'd hear he's a karaoke singer.... no one who has tried to step in SP's shoes can win it seems....it seems like from Augeri's following, he came close. There is no way to make every die hard fan happy though. It's the clueless masses who count for ticket sales, and most arent near as critical.

That's what was so interesting to me last night about my sister's and girlfriend's reactions. My buddy who I also took with me enjoyed the show and was not too critical.

But, both my sister and girlfriend have seen Frontiers a few times too and they both thought Jeremey/Frontiers were way better/more entertaining. As I said in the original review, they both made those remarks before I ever shared my thoughts (because I wanted to see what they really thought free of my diehard Journey fan influence). My sister knows The Essential Journey and my girlfriend knows DSB, Faithfully, and Anyway You Want It, so they are at different points on the casual fan spectrum. But, they both were very underwhelmed and found the performance lackluster.

So, it's not necessarily just diehard fans or musical types like me who are nitpicking the performance. Other, way more casual fans reacted the same way.

[Gideon]

Matt, I'm sorry to hear your review. I know how much of a fan you are and how much you wanted to give Arnel the benefit of the doubt. It's a real shame that the concert turned out the way it did for you.

[Journey/Survivor]

It is interesting how two or more people can see the same show and come away with totally differing opinions/reviews. Just shows how subjective a concert can be I suppose.

I think it just depends on your perspective and background. Bill and Matt are both seasoned concert goers. However, I'd say that Matt is a bit more discerning, being a guitar player and musician. He's looking for nuances and technical issues. Bill is probably a bit more reflective of the casual fan, in that he probably feeds off of the crowd, its energy and is more interested in singing along than dissecting individual performances. In the end, neither is right and neither is wrong. They're just "hearing" different elements.

Actually, I'm a guitarist and drummer myself, and have been in bands.

I consider myself to be very picky about music.

I just don't hear the pronunciation problems that many people on this forum seem to hear from Arnel.

I will say that both Jack Blades and Kelly Hansen are better at interacting with fans than Arnel is. But I guess that's to be expected when your talking about a singer who's first language is NOT English.

I'm sure that AP does a hell of a lot better singing in English than most of us would singing in a language other than English.

[Behshad]

both my sister and girlfriend

You don't have to use the word "both" when you're talking about one person

[Saint John]

both my sister and girlfriend

You don't have to use the word "both" when you're talking about one person

lol ... the part of Matt's post that you quoted looks like something you'd encounter in Kentucky or West Virginia.

[StevePerryHair]

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

While I totally agree with this, then the Perry freaks would just say "OMG! He's just imitating Perry, can't he do anything himself??"

The guy cannot win. Period.

Yep, i agree, you'd hear he's a karaoke singer.... no one who has tried to step in SP's shoes can win it seems....it seems like from Augeri's following, he came close. There is no way to make every die hard fan happy though. It's the clueless masses who count for ticket sales, and most arent near as critical.

That's what was so interesting to me last night about my sister's and girlfriend's reactions. My buddy who I also took with me enjoyed the show and was not too critical.

But, both my sister and girlfriend have seen Frontiers a few times too and they both thought Jeremey/Frontiers were way better/more entertaining. As I said in the original review, they both made those remarks before I ever shared my thoughts (because I wanted to see what they really thought free of my diehard Journey fan influence). My sister knows The Essential Journey and my girlfriend knows DSB, Faithfully, and Anyway You Want It, so they are at different points on the casual fan spectrum. But, they both were very underwhelmed and found the performance lackluster.

So, it's not necessarily just diehard fans or musical types like me who are nitpicking the performance. Other, way more casual fans reacted the same way.

Well, let me ask you this... were you disappointed enough to act like you weren't enjoying them? Were you actively complaining during the performance? Or sharing your disappointment during the concert? Because I know that it's VERY difficult to be subjective and actually enjoy anything when someone in your "group" is not enjoying themselves. I've experienced that with my own husband, during a movie when I can tell he thinks it sucks! I think it's funny or good, but it's hard to enjoy when I know he's next to me completely bored or hating it. It DOES affect how you feel.

I can only go by what I saw in Cleveland last time they toured there. And it was a stadium full of people dancing, and singing to the music..... are you telling me that did not happen this time? The masses sat there bored and perplexed at what they were watching? I find that hard to believe! You are 3 people, and maybe even a little biased by your Jeremey love? Is that possible?

[AR]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

I've long argued that "making the songs his own" (most parroted from the Soto crowd), is a really fucking stupid idea. The songs are sing along songs, and the cadence and delivery have to be like the original. That's why parts of the ROR tour were so awful. Perry destroyed the intimate element of the song by phrasing differently and changing the tempo. I listen to ROR bootlegs and I just don't hear "Journey" all the time. So I can definitely relate to this.

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

Lou Gramm used to drive me crazy in concert phrasing songs differently than on the records. I have all the respect in the world for Lou as a vocalist, but Kelly Hansen actually sticks to the original recordings without taking those liberties.

[StevePerryHair]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

I've long argued that "making the songs his own" (most parroted from the Soto crowd), is a really fucking stupid idea. The songs are sing along songs, and the cadence and delivery have to be like the original. That's why parts of the ROR tour were so awful. Perry destroyed the intimate element of the song by phrasing differently and changing the tempo. I listen to ROR bootlegs and I just don't hear "Journey" all the time. So I can definitely relate to this.

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

Lou Gramm used to drive me crazy in concert phrasing songs differently than on the records. I have all the respect in the world for Lou as a vocalist, but Kelly Hansen actually sticks to the original recordings without taking those liberties.

I think it's because when it comes to classic rock, we all want to hear it like we remember it. Most fans love to sing along, and it's hard to do when they change it around too much. I'm guilty of liking it to be as close to the original as it can be also. But for some, they see that as a karaoke fill in, so it IS a no win situation.

[S2M]

Sycophantix - the gum for those who just can't shake that journey cockriding addiction.

[StevePerryHair]

I was disappointed that Journey only played 2 songs from Eclipse. At least they were 2 of the ones that I would most want to hear.

I don't remember the exact order that they played the songs, but here's the song list for the show...

Lights
Wheel In The Sky
Any Way You Want It
Don't Stop Believin'
Stone In Love
Open Arms
Separate Ways
Send Her My Love
Faithfully
Only The Young
Ask The Lonely
Be Good To Yourself
City Of Hope
Edge Of The Moment

Only 14 songs?? They were playing 17...wtf

Even though I'm relatively happy with Journey's performance last night, it was NOT one of my favorite shows of theirs by any stretch.

They should have played at least 3 more songs on the night.

I wonder if perhaps the reason that they played a short set was because the humidity at the venue was off-the-charts high last night!!! I was drenched with sweat just sitting there, as were most of the crowd. All 3 bands made mention of how hot and sticky it was last night. I felt like I was in the rain-forest.

But, like I mentioned, I wish that Journey had played 2 more from Eclipse. And I wish they had thrown in something like "Edge Of the Blade" "Where Were You" "Chain Reaction" or one of the other more Rocking songs that wasn't a major hit.

I'm highly DOUBTING it was the humidity! They play outdoor venues here in Florida EVERY tour in 100% humidity! I was up north of Indianapolis this week, and it was 90 degrees, and everyone complained about the freaking heat!! SURE it was hot with a bit of humidity, but still NOTHING like the humidity in the summer in Florida! Yet all of these bands do it! I think they're all nuts! But obviously outdoor venues are cheaper for them!! Def Lep complains EVERY year about the heat here at our amphitheater, yet the do it EVERY year!!

I have to wonder if there was something going on with Deen that he didn't sing his usual songs? Or has he not been doing them this tour? That seems to be what's missing in your set list! I don't blame you for being disappointed in that list. It looks like a greatest hits list with a couple of new songs thrown in the mix. Sure, the general fan can have fun with the hits, but they usually do a little more to keep the bigger fans happy!

[AR]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

I've long argued that "making the songs his own" (most parroted from the Soto crowd), is a really fucking stupid idea. The songs are sing along songs, and the cadence and delivery have to be like the original. That's why parts of the ROR tour were so awful. Perry destroyed the intimate element of the song by phrasing differently and changing the tempo. I listen to ROR bootlegs and I just don't hear "Journey" all the time. So I can definitely relate to this.

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

Lou Gramm used to drive me crazy in concert phrasing songs differently than on the records. I have all the respect in the world for Lou as a vocalist, but Kelly Hansen actually sticks to the original recordings without taking those liberties.

I think it's because when it comes to classic rock, we all want to hear it like we remember it. Most fans love to sing along, and it's hard to do when they change it around too much. I'm guilty of liking it to be as close to the original as it can be also. But for some, they see that as a karaoke fill in, so it IS a no win situation.

Yeah, I'm pretty much the same way where that is concerned. Completely agree.

[Gideon]

both my sister and girlfriend

You don't have to use the word "both" when you're talking about one person

lol ... the part of Matt's post that you quoted looks like something you'd encounter in Kentucky or West Virginia.

Watch it, asshole!

[StevePerryHair]

both my sister and girlfriend

You don't have to use the word "both" when you're talking about one person

lol ... the part of Matt's post that you quoted looks like something you'd encounter in Kentucky or West Virginia.

Watch it, asshole!

We stopped in Kentucky at least 3 times on our trip, and inbred or not, they are REALLY nice people!

I actually lived in Louisville for about 2 years, but I don't count it because was only 1 and 2 years old at the time!

[Gideon]

both my sister and girlfriend

You don't have to use the word "both" when you're talking about one person

lol ... the part of Matt's post that you quoted looks like something you'd encounter in Kentucky or West Virginia.

Watch it, asshole!

We stopped in Kentucky at least 3 times on our trip, and inbred or not, they are REALLY nice people!

I actually lived in Louisville for about 2 years, but I don't count it because was only 1 and 2 years old at the time!

Thanks.

and inbred or not

Wait a minute.......

[Journey/Survivor]

That seems to be what's missing in your set list! I don't blame you for being disappointed in that list. It looks like a greatest hits list with a couple of new songs thrown in the mix. Sure, the general fan can have fun with the hits, but they usually do a little more to keep the bigger fans happy!

If I were setting Journey's set-list, the only hits that I would still want them to play at a show that I was at are "Wheel In The Sky" "Any Way You Want It" "Don't Stop Believin'" "Separate Ways" "Be Good To Yourself."

So last nights show was too many hits, and not enough non-hits for me. But, at least to Journey's credit they did do 2 songs from Eclipse. Foreigner did not play one single non-hit the entire night.

Night Ranger opened with a song from their new album.

[San Diego Gary]

So many times, he'd draw phrases or words out in an attempt to make the song his own, only to run roughshod over the next line or phrase. That forced him to spew out a key phrase awkwardly in warp speed, all over the wrong chord change. One of the worst examples of this was in Faithfully, when he drew out the line "ANd being apart ain't easy on this love affair" way too long, forcing him to squeeze the entire "two strnagers learn to fall in love again" line in to a very small space. It sounded awkward.

Exactly what I though. I told my wife he's "Meatloafing". Meatloaf does this and draws out the lyrics and turns a 12 minute song into an 18 minute song. But his band plays off of him and delays the music too.

That's the main reason in my review of the Detroit show stating that Arnel is much better on the upbeat tunes. He sucks at the ballads.

I've long argued that "making the songs his own" (most parroted from the Soto crowd), is a really fucking stupid idea. The songs are sing along songs, and the cadence and delivery have to be like the original. That's why parts of the ROR tour were so awful. Perry destroyed the intimate element of the song by phrasing differently and changing the tempo. I listen to ROR bootlegs and I just don't hear "Journey" all the time. So I can definitely relate to this.

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

My wife said much the same thing after seeing them on the Today Show. She says it's like hearing someone try to put their own spin on the National Anthem. Quit fooling around and sing it the way it was written!

[Ehwmatt]

Arnel, should listen to the original album recording and sing it exactly that way. Period. Thanks.

While I totally agree with this, then the Perry freaks would just say "OMG! He's just imitating Perry, can't he do anything himself??"

The guy cannot win. Period.

Yep, i agree, you'd hear he's a karaoke singer.... no one who has tried to step in SP's shoes can win it seems....it seems like from Augeri's following, he came close. There is no way to make every die hard fan happy though. It's the clueless masses who count for ticket sales, and most arent near as critical.

That's what was so interesting to me last night about my sister's and girlfriend's reactions. My buddy who I also took with me enjoyed the show and was not too critical.

But, both my sister and girlfriend have seen Frontiers a few times too and they both thought Jeremey/Frontiers were way better/more entertaining. As I said in the original review, they both made those remarks before I ever shared my thoughts (because I wanted to see what they really thought free of my diehard Journey fan influence). My sister knows The Essential Journey and my girlfriend knows DSB, Faithfully, and Anyway You Want It, so they are at different points on the casual fan spectrum. But, they both were very underwhelmed and found the performance lackluster.

So, it's not necessarily just diehard fans or musical types like me who are nitpicking the performance. Other, way more casual fans reacted the same way.

Well, let me ask you this... were you disappointed enough to act like you weren't enjoying them? Were you actively complaining during the performance? Or sharing your disappointment during the concert? Because I know that it's VERY difficult to be subjective and actually enjoy anything when someone in your "group" is not enjoying themselves. I've experienced that with my own husband, during a movie when I can tell he thinks it sucks! I think it's funny or good, but it's hard to enjoy when I know he's next to me completely bored or hating it. It DOES affect how you feel.

I can only go by what I saw in Cleveland last time they toured there. And it was a stadium full of people dancing, and singing to the music..... are you telling me that did not happen this time? The masses sat there bored and perplexed at what they were watching? I find that hard to believe! You are 3 people, and maybe even a little biased by your Jeremey love? Is that possible?

Nah, there were plenty of people enjoying themselves. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like Arnel isn't going to be enjoyable for a lot of fans, particularly casual ones. I said that one person in my group said he enjoyed it (though he said he rated Journey 2nd based on catalog, but 3rd based on performance). I'm not trying to make a band political point with my review or try to distort things like some people with agendas here would. But, just as I noticed plenty of people enjoying themselves (as expected), I noticed several people around me shaking their heads and leaving. I'll put it this way: the venue filled up the most for Journey, but the crowd felt way more electric during Foreigner.

As for my own enjoyment level, I wasn't visibly enjoying it like I did Foreigner and NR. But, I remained open minded until finally DSB hit and I was ready to give up. In fact, Sep Ways and Ask The Lonely (the first 2 songs) were decent enough. And no, I didn't complain during the performance. Like I said, I kept quiet until I heard the rest of my group's take on the show because I was curious to see if I was being overly critical or whatever. Based on their take, I wasn't the only one in the venue who felt the way I did. And my other sister was there with her fiance out on the lawn. I didn't see them at all at the show, and she texted me saying she wanted to leave during the 7th song because it "sounded terrible." When I asked her yesterday what that meant, she said she "couldn't understand a word he was singing."

BTW, something I didn't mention in my original review: HUGE jeers to starting Night Ranger early. With the show already starting quite early (at 7), there is absolutely no reason that they should be going on at 6:48 as they did. I was still way up away from my seat buying a beer to take in and I missed the entire first song (Lay It On Me, a new one) by the time I got to my pavilion seat. That really pissed me off.

[Saint John]

HUGE jeers to starting Night Ranger early. With the show already starting quite early (at 7), there is absolutely no reason that they should be going on at 6:48 as they did.

This is just baffling. Night Ranger is starting about 15 minutes early and Journey is finishing 15 minutes early. Get your shit coordinated, guys!

I think this is worth mentioning ... Kelly Hansen has an easy gig. He has a pretty hard catalog to sing, but he doesn't seem to let it all go when he sings, like Lou did. Because of that, he's basically singing songs he's heard a million times and he's not singing them at full tilt. Also, and I find this deplorable, but they're playing zero new music. At the very least, last night, they should have played a new song or two. They were playing for a radio audience that was fairly large and spanned parts of the globe. When I heard them play In Pieces a little over a year ago it was simply awesome. What a great song, and it comes across as well as any song in their catalog, live. To get out there and play no new songs, under last night's circumstances, is nothing more than "mailing it in."

Honestly, this should have been a two-headed monster with just Foreigner and Journey, each playing 90 minutes, or about 18 songs.

[Ehwmatt]

HUGE jeers to starting Night Ranger early. With the show already starting quite early (at 7), there is absolutely no reason that they should be going on at 6:48 as they did.

This is just baffling. Night Ranger is starting about 15 minutes early and Journey is finishing 15 minutes early. Get your shit coordinated, guys!

I think this is worth mentioning ... Kelly Hansen has an easy gig. He has a pretty hard catalog to sing, but he doesn't seem to let it all go when he sings, like Lou did. Because of that, he's basically singing songs he's heard a million times and he's not singing them at full tilt. Also, and I find this deplorable, but they're playing zero new music. At the very least, last night, they should have played a new song or two. They were playing for a radio audience that was fairly large and spanned parts of the globe. When I heard them play In Pieces a little over a year ago it was simply awesome. What a great song, and it comes across as well as any song in their catalog, live. To get out there and play no new songs, under last night's circumstances, is nothing more than "mailing it in."

Honestly, this should have been a two-headed monster with just Foreigner and Journey, each playing 90 minutes, or about 18 songs.

This I do agree with. Omitting In Pieces was inexcusable. Can't Slow Down wasn't an incredible album by any stretch, but one new song wouldn't be too much to ask.