Time to rehire Augeri?

[Pacfanweb]

How can anyone tell from those videos posted whether SA's voice is "back" or not? You can hardly hear him. What little I could hear wasn't that impressive. Is there some better audio somewhere?

[AR]

How can anyone tell from those videos posted whether SA's voice is "back" or not? You can hardly hear him. What little I could hear wasn't that impressive. Is there some better audio somewhere?

Go see him live. I'm not impressed by youtube clips from any band truth be told. I get it.

[STORY_TELLER]

How can anyone tell from those videos posted whether SA's voice is "back" or not? You can hardly hear him. What little I could hear wasn't that impressive. Is there some better audio somewhere?

I realize I'm mixing apples and oranges here -- but -- you reminded me of an argument others have raised here before, hence why I'm quoting you:

Argument: How can you tell if the singer is on key or in pitch from a bad youtube video?

(my) Answer: if the recording was truly at issue, the instrumentals and vocals would be equally affected in the same manner at the exact same time. Both would be pitchy at the exact same moment. In so many of Augeri videos, I hear him going off pitch, while the instrumentals (and the background singers) do not. If the only pitchy sound is sourced from the lead vocalist's voice, the simple answer is, the problem isn't the video. The problem is the vocalist is off pitch.

[marco17]

I think Steve's voice is better preserved as a weekend warrior on his own terms.

Recent Interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3QnwCgIj6o

But yes, he sounds really good now. Enjoyed seeing his show in Bensalem, PA recently and hope he keeps it up.

Agreed. I think he probably enjoys this type of situation more. If nothing else, it's nice to see the guy getting some props and respect that wasn't always there during his tenure with the band.

[SF-Dano]

I'd love it. And I think Steve could do it with moderation and rest inbetween shows. Deen's latest interview said volumes about Steve's issue. The "Evening With Journey" tour had Steve singing 3.5 hours per night hitting several nights per week. I had forgotten how long that show was. It's no wonder he had vocal problems. I think anyone would doing four shows a week at 3.5 hours each. Journey should have been smarter and Steve should have told them to slow down.

The first 30 minutes of the set were pre-perry instrumental tunes. But more than that, this was the "Tape-gate" tour.

[Eric]

In what way is Eclipse creative? And in what way is hiring a clone (that really is no clone) creative?

2 new albums in 3 years is good for any band these days - especially a classic rock band.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I'd love it. And I think Steve could do it with moderation and rest inbetween shows. Deen's latest interview said volumes about Steve's issue. The "Evening With Journey" tour had Steve singing 3.5 hours per night hitting several nights per week. I had forgotten how long that show was. It's no wonder he had vocal problems. I think anyone would doing four shows a week at 3.5 hours each. Journey should have been smarter and Steve should have told them to slow down.

That wasn't the tour that hurt him. Most of the first set was instrumentals and/or Deen singing, and the second set was mainly canned vocals. Especially as the tour progressed.

[S2M]

Judging by that sophmore effort from Tall Stories.....NOPE.

[brywool]

Arnel is getting his ass kicked as well, so much that he has to sing it in a lessor key, this without a doubt takes away from the experience.

The whole thing about Eclipse failing only because it wasn't marketed is crap, there are plenty of Journey fans here that knew about the cd, listened to the samples and said " i don't like it, i'm not buying it".

Totally incorrect. They've lowered the keys to help with the tour and the multiple shows. The guy's voice is far from ruined. If it was ruined, a 1/2 step down wouldn't help him. If the guy's voice was ruined, he wouldn't be able to sing period. Augeri wasn't able to sing at that time. Now, he's gotten better (which can happen with rest and therapy). But EVEN AT HIS BEST the Journey catalog was stronger than Augeri's voice. Sure a 1/2 step would've helped him. It'd help anybody. But I highly doubt it would've saved him.

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

Now- look at the UTTER SHI* that sells out there. It's all autotuned, there's no passion in it, etc. The one thing that crap does have going for it is that it is marketed to death. There's no market for Journey or Styx or Foreigner or Night Ranger or any of those bands. The fact that Walmart backed Journey and that they've been able to tour the world with this new album is pretty friggin' amazing. The only reason DSB was the "best single of the 20th century" (are you frigging kidding me?? Over Elvis? The Beatles? Michael Jackson?- sure, whatever ) is because of "Glee". When that song originally came out, it did NOTHING. Escape was a number 1 album, but that song wasn't in the top of the charts. Who cares if Journey tours with other bands? (oh yeah, all those that want to drag down the current lineup and look for an excuse other than the most obvious). However, that's how "Classic Rock" (hate that term) is marketed because "Classic Rock" audiences are now golf shirts and cankles. Those people are now busy with families, etc. They don't have time to be following their favorite bands from the 80s. How many of your parents kept up with their favorite bands into their 30s & 40s? I bet not a lot.

It's a good album. It's just a different time. Even U2s last album didn't do that well. Their tour did. Their album didn't.

Oh yeah, in all fairness - those that liked the new lineup were predisposed to liking the new record. Sure. They were more open to it. I'm a big fan of all the other Journey singers except for one that I didn't think fit. I like the band, not only the singers, though they are certainly instrumental in why I like this band. I didn't dig them till they added a tenor vocalist and I've liked the ones that they've recorded with. The music has been a constantly changing thing and that's good. If they'd done another DSB, everybody woulda whizzed all over them for that. Thank God they tried something different.

[Michigan Girl]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclips sucks" movement here about would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Many had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it.

False Statement ...

[brywool]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclips sucks" movement here about would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Many had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it.

False Statement ...

Not from what I've seen here...

[Michigan Girl]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

What if Arnel doesn't quit before the band can't keep up anymore? Will they keep bringing in individual players to keep the band alive and it eventually becomes Arnel's band?
Oh, God.....I can't stand the thought of it!

NO. That's a filipino pipe dream.

Now go smack your wife.

[S2M]

Arnel is getting his ass kicked as well, so much that he has to sing it in a lessor key, this without a doubt takes away from the experience.

The whole thing about Eclipse failing only because it wasn't marketed is crap, there are plenty of Journey fans here that knew about the cd, listened to the samples and said " i don't like it, i'm not buying it".

Totally incorrect. They've lowered the keys to help with the tour and the multiple shows. The guy's voice is far from ruined. If it was ruined, a 1/2 step down wouldn't help him. If the guy's voice was ruined, he wouldn't be able to sing period. Augeri wasn't able to sing at that time. Now, he's gotten better (which can happen with rest and therapy). But EVEN AT HIS BEST the Journey catalog was stronger than Augeri's voice. Sure a 1/2 step would've helped him. It'd help anybody. But I highly doubt it would've saved him.

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclips sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

Now- look at the UTTER SHI* that sells out there. It's all autotuned, there's no passion in it, etc. The one thing that crap does have going for it is that it is marketed to death. There's no market for Journey or Styx or Foreigner or Night Ranger or any of those bands. The fact that Walmart backed Journey and that they've been able to tour the world with this new album is pretty friggin' amazing. The only reason DSB was the "best single of the 20th century" (are you frigging kidding me?? Over Elvis? The Beatles? Michael Jackson?- sure, whatever ) is because of "Glee". When that song originally came out, it did NOTHING. Escape was a number 1 album, but that song wasn't in the top of the charts. Who cares if Journey tours with other bands? (oh yeah, all those that want to drag down the current lineup and look for an excuse other than the most obvious). However, that's how "Classic Rock" (hate that term) is marketed because "Classic Rock" audiences are now golf shirts and cankles. Those people are now busy with families, etc. They don't have time to be following their favorite bands from the 80s. How many of your parents kept up with their favorite bands into their 30s & 40s? I bet not a lot.

It's a good album. It's just a different time. Even U2s last album didn't do that well. Their tour did. Their album didn't.

If the above statement is true, then Beatles fans must be all Metamucil and Seabond....

[Eric]

I'd love it. And I think Steve could do it with moderation and rest inbetween shows. Deen's latest interview said volumes about Steve's issue. The "Evening With Journey" tour had Steve singing 3.5 hours per night hitting several nights per week. I had forgotten how long that show was. It's no wonder he had vocal problems. I think anyone would doing four shows a week at 3.5 hours each. Journey should have been smarter and Steve should have told them to slow down.

That wasn't the tour that hurt him. Most of the first set was instrumentals and/or Deen singing, and the second set was mainly canned vocals. Especially as the tour progressed.

I think the 2004 tour was the stupid tour. They weren't supporting new material, they weren't part of a big package (Main Event like in '03) and it would have been a nice time to go away for a year and re-charge. IN addition, Deen-O should have started singing solo in '03 during the Main Event tour. SO ACTUALLY..the Main Event Tour should have been 2002 instead - so really delete both the '02 and '04 secondary market BS tours, which did more harm (vocal wear, tour weariness, perception they were a 2nd rate band) than good.

Alternate reality schedule:

'98 - Vacation over tour - Leg 1 - indoor Fall dates
'99 - Vacation over tour - Leg 2 - outdoor w/Foreigner dates
'00 - BREAK/NEW ALBUM
'01 - Arrival tour
'02 - Main Event tour
'03 - BREAK/NEW ALBUM
'04 - Generations tour
'05 - With Leppard tour
'06 - BREAK...(replace Augeri)/NEW ALBUM
'07 - Revelation tour
'08 - Revelation tour - outside of US
'09 - BREAK/NEW ALBUM
'10 - ECLIPSE
'11 - ECLIPSE - outside of US
'12 - BREAK/NEW ALBUM
'13 - New Album tour

Augeri could have gone out more gracefully. Arnel would be resting next year. The band could have more logically been in the US when Eclipse was released for better promotion. DSB would have been touring both years it blew up (in '07 after Sopranos finale and '10 after Glee). And we'd be one year closer to a new album.[/u]

[Seven Wishes2]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason..

Not true. I LOVED Revelation and I HATE Eclipse.

[brywool]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason..

Not true. I LOVED Revelation and I HATE Eclipse.

then you are not in the 90%, right? Seriously, so many people here have their minds made up already. That's fine, but that's how it is.

I haven't got the new Night Ranger album yet. Did you like it? I keep forgetting to pick it up.

[Jana]

I never like to tell a band what to do anymore. Their creative process can bring something unexpected. I hated the way they described this album before they started recording it, but I ended up loving it. The same with TFF's last album. It threw me at first, but it's the one I listen to most.

But I would like their next album to have more keys and on some of the songs more moody playing by Neal like he did on Arrival Other than that, they should make creatively what they're feeling at the time they record it.

[Greg]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

Totally incorrect. If I want to see this band fail, it wouldn't be because of the band itself. It would to shut the mouths of of fans who have smug attitudes toward those of us who just didn't care much for Eclipse.

[yulog]

Arnel is getting his ass kicked as well, so much that he has to sing it in a lessor key, this without a doubt takes away from the experience.

The whole thing about Eclipse failing only because it wasn't marketed is crap, there are plenty of Journey fans here that knew about the cd, listened to the samples and said " i don't like it, i'm not buying it".

Totally incorrect. They've lowered the keys to help with the tour and the multiple shows. The guy's voice is far from ruined. If it was ruined, a 1/2 step down wouldn't help him. If the guy's voice was ruined, he wouldn't be able to sing period. Augeri wasn't able to sing at that time. Now, he's gotten better (which can happen with rest and therapy). But EVEN AT HIS BEST the Journey catalog was stronger than Augeri's voice. Sure a 1/2 step would've helped him. It'd help anybody. But I highly doubt it would've saved him.

Who said his voice is ruined? i said he is getting his ass kicked just like Augeri was from all the touring, just like Perry did



As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

I would have to say that the above is wrong since there's only about 50 people who even care to comment on this cd and the ones who don't like eclipse are saying they liked or loved revelation


Now- look at the UTTER SHI* that sells out there. It's all autotuned, there's no passion in it, etc. The one thing that crap does have going for it is that it is marketed to death. There's no market for Journey or Styx or Foreigner or Night Ranger or any of those bands. The fact that Walmart backed Journey and that they've been able to tour the world with this new album is pretty friggin' amazing. The only reason DSB was the "best single of the 20th century" (are you frigging kidding me?? Over Elvis? The Beatles? Michael Jackson?- sure, whatever ) is because of "Glee". When that song originally came out, it did NOTHING. Escape was a number 1 album, but that song wasn't in the top of the charts. Who cares if Journey tours with other bands? (oh yeah, all those that want to drag down the current lineup and look for an excuse other than the most obvious). However, that's how "Classic Rock" (hate that term) is marketed because "Classic Rock" audiences are now golf shirts and cankles. Those people are now busy with families, etc. They don't have time to be following their favorite bands from the 80s. How many of your parents kept up with their favorite bands into their 30s & 40s? I bet not a lot. Don't stop believin made it to #9 and was played on the radio constantly when escape came helping it reach number one, again i would have to disagree with your bolded comment.

It's a good album.(there seems to be quite a few people that disagree with you on this) It's just a different time. Even U2s last album didn't do that well. Their tour did. Their album didn't. ( if i remember correctly U2 last album was pretty weak overall)

Oh yeah, in all fairness - those that liked the new lineup were predisposed to liking the new record. Sure. They were more open to it. I'm a big fan of all the other Journey singers except for one that I didn't think fit. I like the band, not only the singers, though they are certainly instrumental in why I like this band. I didn't dig them till they added a tenor vocalist and I've liked the ones that they've recorded with. The music has been a constantly changing thing and that's good. If they'd done another DSB, everybody woulda whizzed all over them for that. Thank God they tried something different.

Most people that don't like something don't want to spend time writing a full fledge report on why it sucks to them, its usually the opposite for something they enjoy. From what i can make out there's a group of people who just don't want to hear anything negative about this cd for fear that it may sway Journey into thinking about not doing another cd.

There's not even a hundred people replying about whether the cd is great or sucks, clearly thats not enough to really do any damage either, for or against. This cd has had the least response to it of all the cds. Journey.com closed down their forum, the amount of responses when the cd came out should have been huge(all the other cds came out with increased numbers of posters) but it wasn't except for maybe 25- 50 people, a horrible showing for a journey cd. There's just to much going on here with this cd to blame it all on marketing.

[Deb]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

But the music will go on and on and on.........

Can't believe the numbers DSB brings in, heck Santa Clarita there was 14,000. I mean, they are pretty friggin good! Heck even the little concert I went to a few weeks ago in a community park was attended by 2000-3000 peeps. Juan's def got the pipes to pull it off. Very impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLhJHtZUoc0

[S2M]

Journey should have tracked down Kelty...problem would have been solved.

[Gideon]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

Totally incorrect. If I want to see this band fail, it wouldn't be because of the band itself. It would to shut the mouths of of fans who have smug attitudes toward those of us who just didn't care much for Eclipse.

I hope they don't bother you that much. Hell, Loons are collectively the most deplorable faction of any fandom I've ever encountered, and even they don't inspire hateful feelings towards Perry or his music.

The prank that Andrew played on everyone a few years back involving the clip of 'If I Fall' had me excited to hear Perry again. I'll never forgive him for that.

[Behshad]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

But the music will go on and on and on.........

Can't believe the numbers DSB brings in, heck Santa Clarita there was 14,000. I mean, they are pretty friggin good! Heck even the little concert I went to a few weeks ago in a community park was attended by 2000-3000 peeps. Juan's def got the pipes to pull it off. Very impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLhJHtZUoc0

a youtube link that is NOT MrBig ?

[Deb]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason. Read the posts from that period. All the Perry, Jss, Augeri freaks weren't going to bend no matter how good it was. They can go on waiting for their favorite singer to magically appear... or they can realize that there's room for everybody. Sure, there are those that don't like it strictly cuz it's not their thing. That's cool. But there are many more vocal fans here that just want to see the current lineup fail because they feel they douched all over their favorite singer.

Totally incorrect. If I want to see this band fail, it wouldn't be because of the band itself. It would to shut the mouths of of fans who have smug attitudes toward those of us who just didn't care much for Eclipse.

I hope they don't bother you that much. Hell, Loons are collectively the most deplorable faction of any fandom I've ever encountered, and even they don't inspire hateful feelings towards Perry or his music.

The prank that Andrew played on everyone a few years back involving the clip of 'If I Fall' had me excited to hear Perry again. I'll never forgive him for that.

That was funny, hell he even had ME (a major Perry AND Soto fan ) fooled with that short clip from the chorus. But only for the first listen or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWoaB95dtx4

[Deb]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

But the music will go on and on and on.........

Can't believe the numbers DSB brings in, heck Santa Clarita there was 14,000. I mean, they are pretty friggin good! Heck even the little concert I went to a few weeks ago in a community park was attended by 2000-3000 peeps. Juan's def got the pipes to pull it off. Very impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLhJHtZUoc0

a youtube link that is NOT MrBig ?

OMG, you're quick! LMAO at your sig!

[slucero]

As for sales, 90% of the peeps trying to start the "Eclipse sucks" movement here would've ONLY liked it if their favorite singer (insert one) did the album. Most of them had their minds made up before hearing it and didn't buy it. Most of those same people hated Revelation for the same reason..

Not true. I LOVED Revelation and I HATE Eclipse.

then you are not in the 90%, right? Seriously, so many people here have their minds made up already. That's fine, but that's how it is.

I haven't got the new Night Ranger album yet. Did you like it? I keep forgetting to pick it up.

You'll have to put me in the 10% too...

Summary of my review, found here: (13th post down): http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... &start=360

Overall - Production is stellar... this is a well recorded album... but on some songs the lyrical content is dark and serious.. which traditionally with Journey would not be that big of a deal.. because one could count on them juxtaposing that with musical melody that was uplifting and feel-good..

For those songs like Edge Of the Moment, Resonate, Chain Of Love... that doesn't exist.. and it brings down the album as a whole...

The music is listenable.. however I do not find it memorable... and more importantly for me with Journey music, aside from the production, nothing "stands out"... too much with the dark & brooding...

and the NR album is great...

[slucero]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

But the music will go on and on and on.........

Can't believe the numbers DSB brings in, heck Santa Clarita there was 14,000. I mean, they are pretty friggin good! Heck even the little concert I went to a few weeks ago in a community park was attended by 2000-3000 peeps. Juan's def got the pipes to pull it off. Very impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLhJHtZUoc0

Yup... Juan has the timbre... if he grew his hair long he'd freak people out from a distance...

[Monker]

Seeing that his voice is stronger now it makes sense - it would allow them to be a creative band again. Although Generations was a weak effort, if they would be able to get somewhat close to the quality of Arrival, things would certainly get interesting again for many fans.

Nope...as I said years ago, they jumped the shark when they hired JSS. Even if they did bring Augeri back, they would never get rid of Arnel. So, then what? Two lead singers who sound similar to Perry? Seems weird to me. I'd rather they get Gregg back to Augeri...but I think he's smarter then to get involved in Journey again.

[S2M]

When Arnel quits, so does Journey. There is no plan B this time around. These guys are fucking old yet people think they can go on forever and it's just not feasible. My god, their bass player looks like he just walked out of a Haitian Voodoo ceremony. This really is the final countdown.

But the music will go on and on and on.........

Can't believe the numbers DSB brings in, heck Santa Clarita there was 14,000. I mean, they are pretty friggin good! Heck even the little concert I went to a few weeks ago in a community park was attended by 2000-3000 peeps. Juan's def got the pipes to pull it off. Very impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLhJHtZUoc0

Yup... Juan has the timbre... if he grew his hair long he'd freak people out from a distance...

Better than Kelty?

[Monker]

Steve Augeri has his own voice and was able to put his own spin on the songs. There's the major difference between the band they were then and the jukebox they are now.

So Arnel Pineda doesn't have his own voice? Son of a bitch. Wonder how they performed the vocal surgery to insert Perry's voicebox into Arnel's cavity. Amazing. Have you ever seen Arnel sing the songs? There are many songs he has sung in a entirely different range and style.

For the record, Augeri had the natural tone and sync in his voice to match Perry's. He actually SOUNDED like Perry, just lacked his range and power. Arnel has the power but in my honest opinion, sounds NOTHING like Perry, just the high tenor the band needs. Maybe on a few occasions Arnel mimmick's Perry but other than that, I rarely hear it, hardly ever a matter of fact.

Arnel was hired explicitly to return to the legacy sound...,because he can sound like Perry.

When Augeri was hired, they passed on Hugo BECAUSE he sounded too much like Perry and they wanted something different.

THAT is the difference,.