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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:31 am

Monker wrote:Steve Smith from Modern Drummer magazine:

Something new I brought to the reunion was a sense of detachment from the
"band experience." Before, the band was incredibly important to me and the
outlet was really crucial in that I wanted to demonstrate everything I knew,
my ability and knowledge--and I was trying to squeeze everything in, which
can cause a lot of tension. In some ways it can create some great music, and
there's something to be said for that. But behind that, there was also
somewhat of a lack of awareness of what might he the most appropriate thing
to play. Now I just cut to the chase without taking some unnecessary,
circuitous route. Having a lot of experience as a hired hand now, I do what
the people who hire me want, and there are boundaries to be creative within,
which is the challenge so I take the challenge and if they like it, great,
and if they don't, I'm not attached to it; I'm just there to do my job. I've
learned something through the experience, but I'm not attached to it. I
approached this situation with that sense of professionalism and
objectivity."


That doesn't sound like somebody loyal to Steve Perry to me. It sounds like somebody very 'unattached' to the reunion and approaching it as a session player. He was there for the reunion and to give the fans a better ending then ROR.

And, as far as him even being in a rock band on any long term basis...

Steve Smith in Rythm Magazine, 2002:

But since I left Journey I never looked back so far as the rock thing: been
there, done that. I still enjoy doing the occasional sessions -- I'm on the
new Savage Garden record and Gavin Harrison and I are both on Claudio
Baglioni's new album, this Italian pop star. I do enough sessions -- but I
don't aspire to do sessions -- I aspire to play with my group and play jazz
and do clinics and hopefully now educate and write."



Hey Monker...

Thanks for finally bringing something to the table (although, you still had to tell someone they were "wrong"). I'm pretty sure that regardless of what was published in the magazine, you still have no clue what the relationships were between Perry and Smith, or anyone else in the band. You talk about this stuff like you hang out with Smitty and know all of this information, firsthand. Smith grew up down the street (not literally, but in the same area), and I don't pretend to know any of this. I would never question Smitty's commitment to his Jazz career, as that information is out there and available for anyone who wants to read it. That doesn't change the fact that it's still okay for some of us to find it odd that Smitty would have any desire to reunite with Journey (even if for just the TBF tour), considering Journey was fronted by a guy who fired him from the band (for no apparent reason, no less!)

Anyway...keep up with your campaign of always having to be right about everything wrong with Perry and keep telling everyone else that their opinions don't matter. Thanks for posting the Smitty quotes, and you're still a jackass! I'm hoping that someday you graduate, because I honestly think that you're probably a knowledgeable guy, in spite of your contempt for Perry. Maybe someday when you get all of that Perry rage out of you...you can stop being so condescending to anyone who would ever dare to disagree with any of your opinions!

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Postby Carrington » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:39 am

This board is rather liberating....eh John?.....
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Postby NoMoreTails » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:25 am

Matthew wrote:Where do you stand on JSS?


I knew JSS would be singing the Va Beach show, his second show with Journey. I was very disappointed with the show, felt it wasn't quite Journey for me, and I was one who upon hearing Perry had been replaced in '98, felt that as long as Neal and Jon were there, it would still be Journey. I already had respect for JSS as a singer, I was a big Soul SirkUS fan, saw their first two shows and thought Jeff sang great live, was very versatile as his body of work shows, and one of the strongest voices I've heard. From the onset of SS, I felt like Journey needed a good dose of the engergy of Soul SirkUS (which I envisioned added to SA/Journey of course), still I didn't feel that JSS had the right type of voice for Journey.
As time has gone on I've become more open to JSS as the front man for Journey, the more recent boots posted here that I've heard have been much better than the previous ones. I now think if they move on with another singer, its better to move on with someone who's not similar to Perry, although I think Jeff uses Perry's enunciation (?) and "ad libs", etc more than SA did, but then again Perry was more of an influence for JSS than for SA. SA's voice just happend to have a similar tone naturally.
I also think that JSS has shown that his voice may work with the "Journey sound" on previous stuff like Coming Home and Believe In Me. At the same time, if they truly wanted to move away from being type cast by their history, JSS certainly can go in any direction. I felt that they could have done that to an extent with SA but they chose not to for whatever reasons. JSS possibly is showing them that the general audience is there for their music and songs as much or more than for the Perry-ish sound. They may feel that they never had to find somebody who sounded like Perry after all.
JSS certainly has the chemistry with Neal but I wonder if he and Jon gel as well. I think they could do some awesome new music and really expect they will, just not sure to what extent it will be a Neal/JSS effort (SS) or if all three will have a chemistry together resulting in a new Journey. New music is what will ultimately determine my stance, as I've had it with the primarily greatest hits year after year tours. I do intend to see them again with JSS, not sure if this tour or next, beyond that I'd only go if assured they'd be playing some of the rockers they are currently and 3-6 new tunes. Sorry for the lengthy reply.
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:25 pm

Carrington wrote:This board is rather liberating....eh John?.....



Hey Carrington...

Nice to see you over here! And yes, this place is VERY liberating. To think a moderator (Thank you Andrew!) actually allows people to say what's on their mind without locking 15 threads an hour! What a novel concept!

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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:29 pm

NoMoreTails wrote: I was one who upon hearing Perry had been replaced in '98, felt that as long as Neal and Jon were there, it would still be Journey.


This has always been a VERY interesting perspective to hear from people. I mean if people really and truly believe this...then why the hell wasn't Bad English "Journey"? Neal and Jon were both in that band, if my memory is still working! Let's face it folks...the classic Journey lineup will FOREVER be Perry, Cain, Schon, Valory, and Smitty! That's not ever going to change, even if "Journey" continues to tour for the next 10 years!

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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:41 pm

Enigma869 wrote:This has always been a VERY interesting perspective to hear from people. I mean if people really and truly believe this...then why the hell wasn't Bad English "Journey"? Neal and Jon were both in that band, if my memory is still working!


BE wasn't Journey because they didn't call themselves Journey. They didn't go out and perform a Journey set live. Waite didn't sing Perry songs. Neal didn't perform Journey songs. The band was not put together to continue that legacy.

They were closer to the Babys then Journey, 3/5 of that band.

Let's face it folks...the classic Journey lineup will FOREVER be Perry, Cain, Schon, Valory, and Smitty! That's not ever going to change, even if "Journey" continues to tour for the next 10 years!


Which means: Infinity, Evolution, Departure, Captured, and ROR were not part of the 'classic' lineup - BY YOUR DEFINITION.

You face it - Journey has changed from the beginning. Before they even recorded an album, the replaced their drummer. For that very reason, you can't start defining 'classic' Journey in a simple way...you start making exceptions.

People like what they like...and that's where it begins and ends with Journey.
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:46 pm

Monker wrote:
you can't start defining 'classic' Journey in a simple way...you start making exceptions.

People like what they like...and that's where it begins and ends with Journey.


Monker...let me re-phrase this for you...Perry, Cain, Schon, Smitty, and Valory will forever be the "Classic Journey" lineup for me! I can define how I feel, any way I want to! I'm not sure why you feel so compelled to re-hash the entire history of Journey is every one of your postings. If your on a mission to be selected to get a book deal to write the history of Journey...you have my vote! Now, get lost, and go say something you haven't already said 1000 times in every one of your postings! I feel like I'm back in the era of LP's and the damn record won't stop skipping!

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Postby Vladan » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:02 pm

Perry, Schon, Cain, Valory, Smith is the best and strongest lineup ever, period! - you can all argue will the cows come home. Escape and Frontiers, Journey's two best albums by a mile and were the albums that put these guys on the map in terms of success and recognition. That was their peek, and their sound was tops, with these re-issues on Frontiers and Escape make these even stronger - can't match that lineup. Every single poll I have ever done or seen, Frontiers and Escape win by alot. My favourite JRNY album is Raised On Radio, but I can't say it's the best, just my favourite that's all.
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:04 pm

Enigma869 wrote:Monker...let me re-phrase this for you...Perry, Cain, Schon, Smitty, and Valory will forever be the "Classic Journey" lineup for me!


Then I pity you for only recongizing such a small piece of what Journey was, is, and will always be.

I'm not sure why you feel so compelled to re-hash the entire history of Journey is every one of your postings.


Because Journey isn't just one person, one album, one era...It's the sum of many things, one relying on the other to even exist. To ignore one is to not understand what made the other so great and it is to under-appreciate the whole.

If your on a mission to be selected to get a book deal to write the history of Journey...you have my vote!


Nah, I'd rather write a goofy sorta scifi novel...But, when I try to start one, I never get to finishing it.

Now, get lost, and go say something you haven't already said 1000 times in every one of your postings!


Steve Perry has a big nose! :v)

I feel like I'm back in the era of LP's and the damn record won't stop skipping!


Steve Perry has a bigger nose! :V)
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:09 pm

Vladan wrote:Perry, Schon, Cain, Valory, Smith is the best and strongest lineup ever, period!


I don't think so. I think Perry, Schon, Valory, Smith, and Rolie was the strongest lineup ever, period. Nothing compares to the Departure boots - NOTHING.

Escape and Frontiers, Journey's tour best albums by a mile.


So? Popularity of an album doesn't equate to 'best lineup'. There was always more to Journey then album sales, and charting singles.

That was their peek, and their sound was tops, with these re-issues on Frontiers and Escape make these even stronger - can't match that lineup. My favourite JRNY album is Raised On Radio, but I can't say it's the best, just my favourite that's all.


Yes, it was their peak. But, if it were not for all of the touring during Infinity thru Captured, I doubt Escape would have been quite as popular. The songwriting and timing of Escape launched them to another level...but, if that foundation had not been there, I have doubts they would have been as big as they became.
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:10 pm

Monker wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Monker...let me re-phrase this for you...Perry, Cain, Schon, Smitty, and Valory will forever be the "Classic Journey" lineup for me!


Then I pity you for only recongizing such a small piece of what Journey was, is, and will always be.

I'm not sure why you feel so compelled to re-hash the entire history of Journey is every one of your postings.


Because Journey isn't just one person, one album, one era...It's the sum of many things, one relying on the other to even exist. To ignore one is to not understand what made the other so great and it is to under-appreciate the whole.

If your on a mission to be selected to get a book deal to write the history of Journey...you have my vote!


Nah, I'd rather write a goofy sorta scifi novel...But, when I try to start one, I never get to finishing it.

Now, get lost, and go say something you haven't already said 1000 times in every one of your postings!


Steve Perry has a big nose! :v)

I feel like I'm back in the era of LP's and the damn record won't stop skipping!


Steve Perry has a bigger nose! :V)




Well hey...at least you proved that in addition to being a pain in the ass that you at least have a sense of humor! In terms of me recognizing only a "small piece" of what Journey is...This isn't true at all. Just because I state what I think the "Classic Journey" lineup is (and their commercial success with that lineup certainly supports my hypothesis!), doesn't mean I don't enjoy most of Journey's work. I even thought Arrival was a superb piece of work by Journey. Generations and Red13 were the only two pieces of Journey work that I thought REALLY sucked! I am a fan of the music and always will be. I will always give Perry a bit more credit than everyone else in the band for one very simple reason...It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

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Postby Vladan » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:11 pm

The way I always felt, that there is excellent Journey, and bad Journey.

Excellent Journey = all the re-issues. Bad Journey = things that don't get re-issued.
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Postby ArnelRox » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:17 pm

Monker wrote:Steve Perry has a bigger nose! :V)


Monker made a joke? The world may be coming to an end soon. :D :D :D
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Postby ArnelRox » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:18 pm

Enigma869 wrote: I will always give Perry a bit more credit than everyone else in the band for one very simple reason...It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.


& that sums it up pretty neatly.
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Postby Vladan » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:33 pm

Enigma869 wrote:It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

John from Boston


Man, that would be how everyone became a fan, everyone! :) Journey has always been about "the voice".
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:15 pm

Monker wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Monker wrote:Obviously not...Anybody who read any of Steve Smith's interviews, or followed him at all, would know he has shown no special loyalty towards Perry and was in the reunion only for the 'reunion'.


Well, I followed the BTM documentary and Smith definitely gave the impression that Perry absence was a deciding factor in leaving the band.


You're simply wrong. He said he set time aside to do Journey. When that time was up he went back to his band, because his career as a Jazz musician was slipping and had to be rebuilt. He said he still enjoys doing the occasional session, but he "aspires" to do Jazz, and clinics, and teach what he knows.



Monker - you can post a thousand examples and quotes about Steve Smith thoughts on the Journey reunion - but the fact remains that he gave the impression in the BTM documentary that Perry's departure influenced his own. This might have been the wrong impression...the clip might have been used out of context...and so on...but the impression remains. The fact you are dodging the BTM documentary entirely suggests to me that you know this is true.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:17 pm

Vladan wrote:Perry, Schon, Cain, Valory, Smith is the best and strongest lineup ever, period! - you can all argue will the cows come home. Escape and Frontiers, Journey's two best albums by a mile and were the albums that put these guys on the map in terms of success and recognition. That was their peek, and their sound was tops, with these re-issues on Frontiers and Escape make these even stronger - can't match that lineup. Every single poll I have ever done or seen, Frontiers and Escape win by alot. My favourite JRNY album is Raised On Radio, but I can't say it's the best, just my favourite that's all.


Vladan - I agree with every word of your post. I feel exactly the same way.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:40 pm

NoMoreTails wrote: From the onset of SS, I felt like Journey needed a good dose of the engergy of Soul SirkUS (which I envisioned added to SA/Journey of course),


Yes - I definitely think it's time Neal Schon finally makes the uncompromising Journey album he has felt unable to record in the past. My only reservation though about a faster, heavier Journey album is that - strangely - Neal Schon's best work is rarely in heavy rock.

For example, Hardline was a poor effort in my opinion and so too was HSAS. Soul Sirkus was better - but Schon's true genius seems to shine brightest on 'wimpy' soft rock tracks. Take his solo on "Who's Crying Now"....unbelievable. Yes, he was amazing on "Edge of the Blade" too - but overall his most memorable and inspiring solos tend to be on the AOR songs rather than the heavy rock/metal ones.

What do you make of this theory?


I now think if they move on with another singer, its better to move on with someone who's not similar to Perry


Yes - perhaps Augeri was unfairly typecast as a Perry clone - but that was the job he was hired to do. Whereas JSS - I hope - will be employed to move the band on from the Perry era. Too early to tell - given that they are only playing the Perry era songs in concert still - but there's hope anyway.


JSS has shown that his voice may work with the "Journey sound" on previous stuff like Coming Home and Believe In Me.


When I heard "Believe In Me" I felt excited about the possibilities of modern day Journey for the first time in years.

JSS certainly has the chemistry with Neal but I wonder if he and Jon gel as well.


I agree - so much depends on Cain. If it works out out then we might get a great Journey album. But if Cain and JSS don't gel and Cain feels marginalized I reckon we might end up with a record that sounds like one of Schon's side-projects - which have always been a bit disappointing in the past given Schon's incredible talent.

New music is what will ultimately determine my stance, as I've had it with the primarily greatest hits year after year tours.


I feel exactly the same way. I just can't get that animated about listening to boots of the same old songs...

I do intend to see them again with JSS, not sure if this tour or next, beyond that I'd only go if assured they'd be playing some of the rockers they are currently and 3-6 new tunes.


I'm seeing them in March - so I've got high hopes they'll make some crucial changes to the set-list by next Spring.


Sorry for the lengthy reply.


No need to apologize! I'm enjoying this thread because of the lengthy replies.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:14 pm

Vladan wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

John from Boston


Man, that would be how everyone became a fan, everyone! :) Journey has always been about "the voice".


Nope. You can't speak for everyone. Upon getting Infinity, it was Gregg's voice I preferred as Perry's was to feminine and shrill to my ears, took me a while to warm up to his sound and to appreciate his ability and I always wished he was more of a rocker.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:30 pm

NoMoreTails wrote:
Vladan wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

John from Boston


Man, that would be how everyone became a fan, everyone! :) Journey has always been about "the voice".

I always wished he was more of a rocker.


And yet...as Perry' s influence started to prevail Journey got heavier and heavier...until the change of direction in '86.

It's one of the great myths - I think - that Perry wasn't interested in hard rock, that Journey 'wimped out' because of Perry.

Escape and Frontiers are much tougher than anything the band had released before. Yes, there was "Faithfully" and "Open Arms" - but "Edge of the Blade", "Keep On Runnin'", "Escape", "Rubicon" are much heavier than anything on "Infinity".

Yes - "Street Talk" and "ROR" reflect a different side to Perry and Journey eventually went in a softer direction in the mid-80s. But Perry was a powerful voice in the band between 1981-83 and this is by far Journey most rocking or 'metallic' era.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:42 pm

Matthew wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote: From the onset of SS, I felt like Journey needed a good dose of the engergy of Soul SirkUS (which I envisioned added to SA/Journey of course),


Yes - I definitely think it's time Neal Schon finally makes the uncompromising Journey album he has felt unable to record in the past. My only reservation though about a faster, heavier Journey album is that - strangely - Neal Schon's best work is rarely in heavy rock.

For example, Hardline was a poor effort in my opinion and so too was HSAS. Soul Sirkus was better - but Schon's true genius seems to shine brightest on 'wimpy' soft rock tracks. Take his solo on "Who's Crying Now"....unbelievable. Yes, he was amazing on "Edge of the Blade" too - but overall his most memorable and inspiring solos tend to be on the AOR songs rather than the heavy rock/metal ones.

What do you make of this theory?


What separates Neal from everyone else is his melodic singing guitar, nobody can touch him, but I love his shredding just as well, he still manages to weave melodies in his aggresive solos too. He obviously will be more known for a Who's Cryin Now type solo as people will hear those Journey songs more than anything else he does. AWYWI and SW are about has aggresive as the general audience has been exposed to through radio. Personally I appreciate and listen to his heaviest stuff as much and find it just as amazing. I liked HSAS alot, Hardline too but feel its kind of dated now due to the hair metalish vocal and lyrical slant (for lack of a better description), still think his work on it was amazing though. I think SS is the best of the three and would have been very content if he had retired Journey in favor of continuing SS. Though like I said previously, I'm now very open to Journey continuing with JSS. Piranha Blues is some great heavy blues, I love his melodic instrumental stuff as well.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:51 pm

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And yet...as Perry' s influence started to prevail Journey got heavier and heavier...until the change of direction in '86.

It's one of the great myths - I think - that Perry wasn't interested in hard rock, that Journey 'wimped out' because of Perry.


You make some good points here, but with Escape and Frontiers there was still some democracy in the band, Perry's, Cain's, Schons preferences all explored and a perfect balance between rockers and ballads. I don't think Perry was that sincerely interested in the hard stuff but was still willing to compromise, I could be wrong of course. Ultimately I think they wimped out with ROR because of Perry.... and because of them being willing to do whatever to keep Perry involved in the band.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:08 pm

NoMoreTails wrote:
Matthew wrote:
And yet...as Perry' s influence started to prevail Journey got heavier and heavier...until the change of direction in '86.

It's one of the great myths - I think - that Perry wasn't interested in hard rock, that Journey 'wimped out' because of Perry.


You make some good points here, but with Escape and Frontiers there was still some democracy in the band, Perry's, Cain's, Schons preferences all explored and a perfect balance between rockers and ballads. I don't think Perry was that sincerely interested in the hard stuff but was still willing to compromise, I could be wrong of course. Ultimately I think they wimped out with ROR because of Perry.... and because of them being willing to do whatever to keep Perry involved in the band.



Yes - it's true that when Perry had totally prevailed the band moved away from classic rock - but nonetheless...in 1983...when Journey released their heaviest album...Perry was the dominant force in the band...the rest of the group were largely silent in meetings...and only HH was trying to stand up to him. I doubt that Journey was especially democratic in '83.

Did Journey wimp out because of Perry in '86? Or had AOR wimped out in general? It was just the direction melodic rock was going in at that time. They only had to look at Rush, Heart and Queen and so on to see that AOR was changing at a rapid pace and that Journey needed to 'get with it' if the radio stations were going to support the new album.

So...I'm not at all sure it's true to say that Perry took the band 'off-track' on some ego trip into wimpiness.

If anything old rock n roll values might have kept Journey back. They refused to record any MTV style videos and used authentic live footage instead. This might well have been a big mistake even though they scored four hit singles off that album.
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Postby junky » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:24 pm

Vladan wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

John from Boston


Man, that would be how everyone became a fan, everyone! :) Journey has always been about "the voice".


Not everyone. It was Neal's guitar and Rolie's voice that got me hooked in 1976.

Perry was the icing on the cake for me.
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Postby Matthew » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:28 pm

jrnyjunky wrote:
Vladan wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:It was his voice that I heard on the songs I grew up with! It's really not much more complicated than that.

John from Boston


Man, that would be how everyone became a fan, everyone! :) Journey has always been about "the voice".


Not everyone. It was Neal's guitar and Rolie's voice that got me hooked in 1976.

Perry was the icing on the cake for me.


For me it was the combination of Perry and Schon. And that's why - in my heart of hearts - Journey just isn't Journey without that combination.

Had history turned out differently and Perry was touring as Journey without Schon...well, that just wouldn't be the same either...no matter how hard I tried to kid myself.
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Postby Eric » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:30 pm

Smith didn't want to be part of the inevitable rebuilding process that was needed minus Perry.....especially considering he had a successful jazz career.
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Postby 80s man » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:27 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:So Big Bad Steve Perry in your mind "stuck it to the Man?"

That's very brash of him to do so. Meanwhile, he fucked over Neal, Jon, Ross and Smith and most of all, he fucked all of US right in the ass.

Yeah Steve, you showed the man.


This is exactly why this guy is an incredibly talented asshole in every regard.

I don't give a shit if Andrew wants an interview or not. If this in fact happened, Perry should go straight to Hell.

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IF this happened - nobody knows what went down except the guys and Herbie and Sony. Perry seems happy to co-operate on the re-masters n stuff. I think everyone just reads too much into it all. He didnt want to tour, agreed was he ill? Who knows - i think he was - even a two year wait would have been better than replacing him with "fish bait"
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Postby 80s man » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:33 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Vladan wrote:I always thought Michael Bolton could of been a great choice for a Journey frontman. He did play with John and Neal didn't he, filled in for Perry. Is that footage anywhere to be heard or seen? sounds rare.


Bolton in Journey??? No thanks Vlad!!!! Wasn't Bolton in some hardcore metal band years ago, or am I imagining that? I think the name of the band was Krokus??? I thought I heard that somewhere, and I was quite stunned!


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John! Bolton was never in Krokus - he was in Blackjack with Bruce Kulick of Kiss fame tho. Krokus were fronted by a guy called Mark Storace and were crap. The blackjack albums were pretty powerful compared to the garbage he did latterly.
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Postby 80s man » Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:46 am

Matthew wrote:
Vladan wrote:Perry, Schon, Cain, Valory, Smith is the best and strongest lineup ever, period! - you can all argue will the cows come home. Escape and Frontiers, Journey's two best albums by a mile and were the albums that put these guys on the map in terms of success and recognition. That was their peek, and their sound was tops, with these re-issues on Frontiers and Escape make these even stronger - can't match that lineup. Every single poll I have ever done or seen, Frontiers and Escape win by alot. My favourite JRNY album is Raised On Radio, but I can't say it's the best, just my favourite that's all.


Vladan - I agree with every word of your post. I feel exactly the same way.

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I used to think i was the odd one out!
ROR is fantastic - i think TBF is too.
THEN i like escape and frontiers.
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