Classic Journey

[Andrew]

It's just the safety NET that gives them courage tho, as they wouldn't have the nerve face to face.

I can honestly say that I conduct myself the same in the real world as I do here in the cyber world. Just because YOU resort to using an anonymous sn & a web browser to do your dirty work (while actually going about daily life in the real world as a cowering, reticent, take-orders, pussy-faggot) does NOT mean we all do the same. Thank you.

One outbust like that and I'll can you for good.

Enough of this endless merry go round insult throwing.

[Ghost Rider]

This thread has always been the nastiest one in terms of people throwing insults at one another. Nobody would have thought that the Perry/Augeri thing would result in the kind of war that takes place on "football" fields all over Europe!

Chill out, guys. It's just not worth it.

[jrnyman28]

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

And Journey is STILL making great music! (IMO )

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.....and the music, so far, is ALL CLASSIC JOURNEY.

NO. The music YOU prefer is 'classic Journey'.

It's what the people want to hear. It's the STEVE PERRY YEARS!

No. It's what SOME people want to hear. Myabe even 'most' people...but not all people.

The goings on that happenned within Journey were no different from what goes on with all rock bands.

Maybe so...it certainly made for good tv though.

It's probably what made the music so great.

True, sometimes a conflict creates 'art'. But it can (and almost always does) tear things down too.

Crying like babies about who got fired or who took control has nothing to do with the end result and the end result is the music everyone loves.

Well, actually, I would say that this has all happened AFTER 'classic Journey' ended. So the end result would be current Journey music.

When a band changes their frontman and can't replace him with someone better or as good and the music is no longer of quality, then you have something to complain about.

But you have to remember that it is JUST OPINION. We do not ALL share it.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

IMO

So start talking about the music...

[jrnyman28]

I do not think there is anything called "classic Journey". Just like the band's name points, it is a musical Journey... When band started, Perry was no where. He came, he left and journey continues... Members come and go time to time and only special bands survive and continue to make music. Sure Perry was an important part of this band but Journey SURVIVED his departure and continues to deliver excellent music and shows...
For me there is no "classic journey". Instead, there is a band called Journey who can be called as a "all time rock classic"

Like it or not, Journey continues...

AMEN! The was a Journey before Perry, and there is a Journey after it. Follow it or don't.

[jrnyman28]

The Journey train was derailed after Perry called it quits in 1986 and it remained stalled in the station for 12 years. If anything, the band is finally back on track, with a singer that wants to work and being a band that actually plays music.

Absolutley! Get on for the ride or leave the station.

[jrnyman28]

To everyone else, let's just ignore these **** and talk about the CURRENT music and the CURRENT band, rather than memories. I will be the first to sign on,

Deano...way over the line dude. Stick to this last line and you'll be OK.

[jrnyman28]

Isn't it amazing that so many posters here seem to feel that our being here to support Steve Perry's Journey years somehow threatens the validity of the current band?

Much like so many of "you" think that Journey continuing is somehow tarnishing the band's legacy...

[jrnyman28]

So very interesting huh ohsher? LOL The need to spaz out at the name perry certainly makes me question whether or not "some" are really all that confident in their "supposed" love of the new line up!

It is not the name of Perry that pushes the buttons...it is some of the ridiculous comments made in 'his' name.

[jrnyman28]

Attack is right Ohsher. Some of their wives or girlfriends must be battered since they seem to have such a short wick.

That is a gross assumption!

Serve them feminine logic

Is there such a thing? LOL! Truthfully, feminine logic is a bit of a mystery to MOST men!

and they resort to foul language and personal attacks.

Plaese try to be specific, you seem to be including all of "us" in this statement.

[jrnyman28]

Yeah, it sort of makes you wonder if they're harboring a deep resentment of Steve for not being in the band and are subconsciously trying to punish him by claiming to love the band just as much without him.

I think only Deano has stated any sort of resentment toward Perry. Not the rest of us.

[The_Noble_Cause]

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

IMO

So start talking about the music...

Ding!
Ding!
We have a weiner here, folks!

You just hit the nail on the head, Jrnyman28.

I've been saying this for years now. They claim they are all here to "celebrate" the Perry era (which is absolutely fine by me), but where are all their Perry-related posts? Where are the posts talking about Perry solo albums or his time with Journey, where is it? I am an Augeri fan and I see posts on here about Augeri's album "Tall Stories" and I see posts on here about the 2001 dvd featuring Augeri, but where are the posts about Steve Perry? They claim to be his biggest fans and to be here to "celebrate him", so why aren't they getting on with it already and celebrating the man?
I feel that the only one who is truly here NOT for the purposes of instigational and incendiary tactics is sngrck who to me seems to be a genuine Perry fan and actually makes posts about the man.

When Perryheads say they are here to "express their opinion" or "celebrate the Perry era" it's reall all one big lie or a pretext rather, for interupting any positive chat about the current lineup. They despise any band out there using the name Journey without Perry in it. They resent it's very existence and feel, that by preventing any talk of the new lineup, they are contributing in their own small way, towards the destruction of the very band, itself.

I recall making a post asking people about which Perry album was their favorite. Do you know how many responses I got? Very few. Don't fall for it. They are not here to talk about Steve Perry's merits, and IF by some slim chance they do, you can bet your ass that they are only bringing up Perry's accomplishments or contributions as a means of negating or diminshing any recent contribution or accomplishment made by the current lineup which is being discussed at the time.

[heardonthestreet]

It's totally to be expected Ghost. It happens with a lot of the bands.

I never gave it too much attention until sniveling interviews started appearing from one of the band members, I thought the world of this guy but lost my respect pretty fast.

Bands go through drugs, death and many other mishaps but if the end result was what Journey accomplished, I say the means justified the end in their case. To belittle the accomplishment by bitching about the ways and means of what it took to get the job done is demeaning to all efforts.

ROR and TBF are a great part of Journeys history but because of circumstances in and around their making, some people color them no good. It happened and so it was meant to be and we have the two great albums and don't anyone tell me that Journey isn't better off for them.

I only came here because of the way their former frontman was being trashed and I thought it shameful considering the best years of his life that he gave to the band and the great influence he had in it's success.

I still say that it's all about the music.

He said that the music dictated and he had to have it and thats good enough for me.

You all enjoy your Journey as I'll enjoy mine.

[The_Noble_Cause]

ROR and TBF are a great part of Journeys history but because of circumstances in and around their making, some people color them no good.

While I think the replacement of Smitty and Ross is shameful, it did not in any way pre-determine my ultimate held opinion for that album. I don't dislike ROR due to the circumstances surrounding it (as bad as they may be), I just don't like it because the music is waaay over saturated with mechanical sounding drum beats and synchronizers. I don't know how to put it any way other than saying that out of all of Journey's albums, this one sounds the most dated to me. Yes, I know many Journey albums use synthesizers, but there is a particular 80's sound to it, that is in no ways nearly as prevalent on their previous cds. I feel there is maybe 5 good Journey tracks on ROR; Be Good to Yourself, Why Can't this night go on Forever, Raised on Radio, Girl Can't help it, and Suzanne.

The rest sounds like melancholy, pensive, songs about heartbreak akin to something off FTLOSM. Waaay too somber for my tastes and not rockin enough. I mean, stuff like "The Eyes of a Woman" or "It could have been you" or "Happy to Give" just isn't what I expect from Journey. There is a total lack of any discernible rock edge.

Neal added a sweet "Who's Cryin Now" style solo to the end of "Happy to Give" on this years tour which really helped me stomach the song alot easier. If it weren't for the novelty of hearing it live for the first time and being overwhelmed by Deen's awe inspiring vocals, I probably would've thrown a bottle at Neal's head upon hearing the opening notes. It just doesn't sound like Journey to me.

[Kuroneko1]

Well... Like it or not, this band is MAKING music! They are touring and meeting their fans. Instead of staying at home and doing nothing, this band keeps on rocking! And instead of making endless sugar sweet ballads especially tailored for the lead singer , they started to rock harder. After all those years, they are still on top form.
This is what I call a classic band.

Journey train continues to roll and soon will be on the next station...

[Rockindeano]

I was the one who used colorful words and I DO NOT apologize for any of them. What I said WAS and IS true.

See people, I used to LOVE Steve Perry, until I found out about the guy. A voice, even as good as his(and I still think it is the BEST of alltime), is not escapable from behavior that is awful. These "supporters" I call them "Current Journey haters" do just that. They really don't support Perry, but try to uplift him by tearing down Journey Present, and that is where I have a big problem. Again, I don't give a rats' ass about their feelings. They are the one's who started this BS thread with the intent to "go to war" and now I fight back and I'm over the line? Look, so I used some bad words? I felt the need to in order to convey my true feelings of anger, fire and anger again. It wasn't like I was trying to curse because it was cool or anything, but if you read some articles about R n R, you'll see managers, guitar players and singers use choice words all the time. Btw, Perry had one of the worst mouths I have ever heard. I saw this guy at the Burbank airport ranting and raving because his plane was an hour delayed.. He was all over the airline personnel dropping "F" bombs left and right. So don't think little Perryboy is an angel because he sings Faithfully.

NC and Fred- I don't expect you two to side with me when I go off like that, but I know you guys know, that I was right.

[perryfaithful]

NC and Fred- I don't expect you two to side with me

Fred huh? LMAO Just as we..........

[perryfaithful]

I saw this guy at the Burbank airport ranting and raving because his plane was an hour delayed.. He was all over the airline personnel dropping "F" bombs left and right.

I was under the impression you had seen him for the FIRST time at the WOF?? So you have run into him in the airport also?

[PROPERRY]

I saw this guy at the Burbank airport ranting and raving because his plane was an hour delayed.. He was all over the airline personnel dropping "F" bombs left and right.

I was under the impression you had seen him for the FIRST time at the WOF?? So you have run into him in the airport also?

That is what I thought too Perryfaithful!

Hmmm seems rock'ndeano likes to tell stories OR maybe that is just his medication talking for him AGAIN!

Lori

[Kuroneko1]

Check this out!
http://steveperryonline.net/stories/spgreg.html

[jeff]

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[ohsherrie]

Isn't it amazing that so many posters here seem to feel that our being here to support Steve Perry's Journey years somehow threatens the validity of the current band?

Much like so many of "you" think that Journey continuing is somehow tarnishing the band's legacy...

Yeah, pretty much.

[ohsherrie]

Yeah, it sort of makes you wonder if they're harboring a deep resentment of Steve for not being in the band and are subconsciously trying to punish him by claiming to love the band just as much without him.

I think only Deano has stated any sort of resentment toward Perry. Not the rest of us.

I wasn't referring to anything anyone had said. In fact, I rarely read any posts by the more foulmouthed posters here unless something specific that interests me is mentioned by someone else in a response. I was just expressing a conclusion I've drawn from general behavior.

[yak]

Check this out!
http://steveperryonline.net/stories/spgreg.html

NOT the first time Perry has cussed on stage, for sure! There were other times.

[ohsherrie]

NC and Fred- I don't expect you two to side with me

Fred huh? LMAO Just as we..........

Well PF, we knew the old "OD" had to be here, we just didn't know which one he was.

[PROPERRY]

Check this out!
http://steveperryonline.net/stories/spgreg.html

The story I remember was that Neal was the ONE who got hit by a bottle from a fan in the audience. Blood was runing down Neal's face, but he continued to play his guitar.

Perry stopped singing & DEMANDED to to know who threw the bottle at Neal! I don't know the exact words or cuss words that were said, but hey, I would be VERY ANGRY TOO, because Neal got hurt by that "fan's poor actions" & also could have hurt someone else in the audience as well.

However I do NOT recall any part of the story that Perry was threatening to physically beat the guy up, OR that security guards had to hold back Perry.

I THINK if I recall the story right, it was that Perry threatened NOT to sing, if bottles were going to be CONTINUED to be thrown.

I think ANYONE would have been angry in that situation & probaly would have responded in the same way, so let's quit TRYING to DISCREDIT Perry here, because it isn't working!!!

And if you want to discuss tempers, how about we discuss Neal's temper??? You know like those times Neal has "verbally gone off" on Perry fans for simply just expressing their own opinions.

Lori

[yak]

When Perryheads say they are here to "express their opinion" or "celebrate the Perry era" it's reall all one big lie or a pretext rather, for interupting any positive chat about the current lineup. They despise any band out there using the name Journey without Perry in it. They resent it's very existence and feel, that by preventing any talk of the new lineup, they are contributing in their own small way, towards the destruction of the very band, itself.

A-MEN!

Their only agenda is to push buttons.

They want to keep Perry's name in the limelight at all costs.

Even though these posters are a constant reminder to Perry of WHAT HE WANTS TO FORGET!

The Poll numbers above speak for themselves!

[The_Noble_Cause]

You know like those times Neal has "verbally gone off" on Perry fans for simply just expressing their own opinions. Lori

I was on BackTalk when Neal had the altercation with the Perryhead and recomended her to "have a drink, better make it a stiff one" and I assure you, Neal was being leanient on her. She showed a complete disrespect for Neal, and for the forum which Neal and the guys pay for. Of course, leave it to you to re-write history and make a fellow agent of chaos & destruction (i.e. a Perryhead) out to be some poor helpless victim. Heck, I wouldn't even be suprised if it turned out YOU were that railing Perry fanatic on BT that Neal so deftly verbally bitch-slapped in front of all us.

[perryfaithful]

NC and Fred- I don't expect you two to side with me

Fred huh? LMAO Just as we..........

Well PF, we knew the old "OD" had to be here, we just didn't know which one he was.

Ignoring this little slip it seems, Ohsher!! LMAO

[PROPERRY]

NC and Fred- I don't expect you two to side with me

Fred huh? LMAO Just as we..........

Well PF, we knew the old "OD" had to be here, we just didn't know which one he was.

Ignoring this little slip it seems, Ohsher!! LMAO

Are we talking about the same Fred from the old VH1 Perry board?

Lori