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by **Jana** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:27 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:Can we quit all the debating and arguing in this thread, and just see some more damn videos please?

Somewhere around page six, seven, or eight Rick posted the link that contains all the clips from the concert, Jim.

by **brywool** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:15 am

I go away for a DAY and you kids have totally messed up the house.
You're all on restriction!!

by **Tito** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:35 am

That little jam they do in the middle of SW and at the end, they need to save for a song. That has the makings for a great song.

by **Eric** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:03 am

Rockindeano wrote:

I am not allowed to comment, especially when I know more about this band than all but three people here, maybe even two? Am I not allowed to present an opposing POV, instead of fucking cheerleading every song, lyric and show? I am not one of those from the "private site" who comes in just to hate. I offer a truthful, hopefully insightful dissenting viewpoint. Don't like it, fuck off. [/quote]

Its true...you do know a lot, and you're Journey posts are usually the best on here. In fact, if the band released a statement and you released a statement I'd believe you. With that said, we're enjoying listening and posting about a recent concert where a lot of new songs were played and you just post to piss on it. Everyone on here knows Perry 78-83 was the best. But its not 78-83 and Perry hasn't done a thing in 13 years. You wanna start a campaign to get Perry back and put all your heart into like you did with Tapegate than thats something else...you'd have my support. But you've just been a whiney dick in this tread.

Rockindeano wrote:

I went to that Vegas show. I heard four songs. Not dated? I guess it must be just my ears that hears a similarity between the first song off that cd to 2 previous released ones? They played maybe 2 on average, new songs on their tour. What "non GH songs did they bust out? Curious? Maybe Mother Father a few times. Spare me the lecture thorn dick. I know my history of this band.[/quote]

Just get the album and listen to it. I told you I'd donate the cost of the album to whatever non political charity you wanted. Never Walk Away is dated...yeah. Change for the Better isn't. AND...I DO want Journey to sound like Journey. I'm happy if I get to hear Keep on Runnin' and Mother, Father along with lots of new tracks. Not shabby.

Rockindeano wrote:

I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?I found other bands out there that actually I am proud to be a fan of. It's so much more appeasing to follow bands that are good to their band mates and good to their fans. [/quote]

I don't wanna know ANYTHING more about these guys off stage. I like their music and thats it. This post was about their music. They aren't as bad as the thugs many of us root for in sports, or as dopey as some of the movie stars we watch....So, I'll leave it at that. You know I'd prefer JSS were fronting this band.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:10 am

Rockindeano wrote:I am not allowed to comment, especially when I know more about this band than all but three people here, maybe even two? Am I not allowed to present an opposing POV, instead of fucking cheerleading every song, lyric and show? I am not one of those from the "private site" who comes in just to hate. I offer a truthful, hopefully insightful dissenting viewpoint. Don't like it, fuck off.

Its true...you do know a lot, and you're Journey posts are usually the best on here. In fact, if the band released a statement and you released a statement I'd believe you. With that said, we're enjoying listening and posting about a recent concert where a lot of new songs were played and you just post to piss on it. Everyone on here knows Perry 78-83 was the best. But its not 78-83 and Perry hasn't done a thing in 13 years. You wanna start a campaign to get Perry back and put all your heart into like you did with Tapegate than thats something else...you'd have my support. But you've just been a whiney dick in this tread.

Rockindeano wrote:I went to that Vegas show. I heard four songs. Not dated? I guess it must be just my ears that hears a similarity between the first song off that cd to 2 previous released ones? They played maybe 2 on average, new songs on their tour. What "non GH songs did they bust out? Curious? Maybe Mother Father a few times. Spare me the lecture thorn dick. I know my history of this band.

Just get the album and listen to it. I told you I'd donate the cost of the album to whatever non political charity you wanted. Never Walk Away is dated...yeah. Change for the Better isn't. AND...I DO want Journey to sound like Journey. I'm happy if I get to hear Keep on Runnin' and Mother, Father along with lots of new tracks. Not shabby.

Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?I found other bands out there that actually I am proud to be a fan of. It's so much more appeasing to follow bands that are good to their band mates and good to their fans.

I don't wanna know ANYTHING more about these guys off stage. I like their music and thats it. This post was about their music. They aren't as bad as the thugs many of us root for in sports, or as dopey as some of the movie stars we watch....So, I'll leave it at that. You know I'd prefer JSS were fronting this band.

As for being a whiney dick, that's the last thing I wanted to be. if you say that's how I am coming across, then I believe you and will stop immediately. My purpose is to not be here to just bash these turds...but to offer something different, perhaps insightful information, that is not going to be rose coloured. Unfortunately, I am finding it real difficult to find positive stuff regarding Journey. Pineda is one bright spot I can say I like, but the five other cancers just disgust me.

As for revelations, thanks but no thanks. I don't even want that band's disc in my house. I do appreciate the offer though.

by **brywool** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:11 am

by **Eric** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:45 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Rockindeano wrote: As for being a whiney dick, that's the last thing I wanted to be. if you say that's how I am coming across, then I believe you and will stop immediately. My purpose is to not be here to just bash these turds...but to offer something different, perhaps insightful information, that is not going to be rose coloured. Unfortunately, I am finding it real difficult to find positive stuff regarding Journey. Pineda is one bright spot I can say I like, but the five other cancers just disgust me.

As for revelations, thanks but no thanks. I don't even want that band's disc in my house. I do appreciate the offer though.

I get it. I mean..I've been a Bills fan for 28 years, but how can I root or a team featuring Marshawn Lynch and TO? Enough is enough. You have every reason to feel the way you do. If they hadn't released Revelation and I didn't enjoy it I would be right with you.

by **Eric** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:47 am

Tito wrote:That little jam they do in the middle of SW and at the end, they need to save for a song. That has the makings for a great song.

I'm hoping thats what that is too. I was hoping for the same thing about a jam they did with JSS in Europe in 2007 before they jammed into La-do-da. Ayone have or remember that?

by **Tito** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:48 am

Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.

by **Behshad** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:02 am

brywool wrote::lol:

Are you also laughing at how the fuckers (mis)used the Quote function above !? :lol:

by **brywool** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:21 am

Behshad wrote:
brywool wrote::lol:

Are you also laughing at how the fuckers (mis)used the Quote function above !?

yeah, and how Deano agreed with himself.

by **Eric** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:27 am

Behshad wrote:
brywool wrote::lol:

Are you also laughing at how the fuckers (mis)used the Quote function above !?

HEY!

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:31 am

Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.

Sorry Tom. Not taking your bait here. Too smart for that.

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:32 am

Eric wrote:
Behshad wrote:
brywool wrote::lol:

Are you also laughing at how the fuckers (mis)used the Quote function above !?

HEY!

I tried to bail you out on your piss poor quote functionality.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:42 am

Gideon wrote:You didn't just have a DVD of this; you make it sound as though it were the only thing on there and what the entire show was centered around. It wasn't.

Owing to the dirty dozen, the band is severely limited by the amount of rare songs they can play each show.
Their most recent dvd features Deen singing MF already.
Speaking as a fan of the band, and of that particular song, I would prefer they give another obscure track a chance. That's all.

Gideon wrote:And I gave you plenty of valid reasons why the band would like to play it again, especially when it was so well received and reviewed previously.

I don't know what yardstick you're going by here...
If there's only so much room for B-sides and lesser known tracks to be played, it makes sense to mix it up.

Gideon wrote:"Suzanne", unlike "Mother, Father" is not a showcase number for the band.

It was a hit song, and having seen them play it in 2004, I would take issue with the idea that it's not a "showcase number."
Easily the highlight of the set.

Gideon wrote:It was driven purely by Perry's vocals with the instruments being literal afterthought. No stellar musical acrobatics and I think Neal regards the majority of ROR to be akin to a plague. I personally like it, but I don't call the shots.

By Neal's own admission, the band's catalog is vocal driven.
However, Neal added a new guitar intro and outro to Suzanne in 2004.
So this is bogus.

by **Eric** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:43 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Eric wrote:
Behshad wrote:
brywool wrote::lol:

Are you also laughing at how the fuckers (mis)used the Quote function above !?

HEY!

I tried to bail you out on your piss poor quote functionality.

Very gentlemanly of you during an argument to do that...and not make fun of my misuse of you're/your either.

by **Jana** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:37 am

Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert.

I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

by **brywool** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:48 am

Jana wrote:Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert. I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

yer crazy Jana. From that performance, they oughta break up tomorrow.

by **Rick** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:53 am

brywool wrote:
Jana wrote:Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert. I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

yer crazy Jana. From that performance, they oughta break up tomorrow.

I haven't seen all of it, but the clips I've seen have been some of the best since AP joined. He even sounded good on Stone In Love, which he's struggled at, in the past.

by **brywool** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:54 am

Rick wrote:
brywool wrote:
Jana wrote:Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert. I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

yer crazy Jana. From that performance, they oughta break up tomorrow.

I haven't seen all of it, but the clips I've seen have been some of the best since AP joined. He even sounded good on Stone In Love, which he's struggled at, in the past.

He sucked. they sucked. I sucked. oh, wait... I added an extra one by mistake... (I just wanna fit in so bad).

I've only heard him not do well on Stone once and that was the Chile show. After that, he's been there (at least of the clips I've heard).

by **twinklestar** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:56 am

brywool wrote:
Jana wrote:Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert. I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

yer crazy Jana. From that performance, they oughta break up tomorrow.

(i fell off my chair)

by **Jana** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:00 am

brywool wrote:
Jana wrote:Okay. I finished watching all the videos for the Manila show. It really was just a fantastic concert. I think whoever suggested a DVD of the complete show with a live CD packaged with it had a good idea.

yer crazy Jana. From that performance, they oughta break up tomorrow.

Who's inhabited Brywool's body? Uh-oh, the body snatchers have arrived on MR. :lol:

by **stevew2** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:24 am

Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.

Are you serious, you are so fuckin stupid,Lipped vocals lead w/Steve Augeri, Frigas vocals were lipped on every generation on the Sturgis concert footage they showed on VH! not to mention the piped in vocals they do at every concert they do, They always got a cut of The I love all access tickets, not to mention they way they dumped there lead singers,and lie about something on every interveiw. You must have had your head in Survivers ass this weekend, cause you make no sense you Homo

by **Behshad** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:26 am

stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.
Are you serious, you are so fuckin stupid,Lipped vocals lead w/Steve Augeri, Frigas vocals were lipped on every generation on the Sturgis concert footage they showed on VH! not to mention the piped in vocals they do at every concert they do, They always got a cut of The I love all access tickets, not to mention they way they dumped there lead singers,and lie about something on every interveiw. You must have had your head in Survivers ass this weekend, cause you make no sense you Homo

you two are made for eachother

by **stevew2** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:27 am

Tito wrote:That little jam they do in the middle of SW and at the end, they need to save for a song. That has the makings for a great song.

Aint know buddy doing any Jam in my middle or end, you might like that shit {like you liked Survivor this weekend} But i dont go for that shit, you bobbler

by **stevew2** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:27 am

Behshad wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.
Are you serious, you are so fuckin stupid,Lipped vocals lead w/Steve Augeri, Frigas vocals were lipped on every generation on the Sturgis concert footage they showed on VH! not to mention the piped in vocals they do at every concert they do, They always got a cut of The I love all access tickets, not to mention they way they dumped there lead singers,and lie about something on every interveiw. You must have had your head in Survivers ass this weekend, cause you make no sense you Homo

you too are made for eachother

A match made in hell

by **Maui Tom** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:28 am

Behshad wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.
Are you serious, you are so fuckin stupid,Lipped vocals lead w/Steve Augeri, Frigas vocals were lipped on every generation on the Sturgis concert footage they showed on VH! not to mention the piped in vocals they do at every concert they do, They always got a cut of The I love all access tickets, not to mention they way they dumped there lead singers,and lie about something on every interveiw. You must have had your head in Survivers ass this weekend, cause you make no sense you Homo

you too are made for eachother

they should do a PTI type vid.....

by **stevew2** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:28 am

what is that?

by **Tito** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:30 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Tito wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I have moved on and I am not bitter. It just baffles me that so many here look the other way with regards to slime ball practice, fraudulent behaviour, and frankly, low life personnel practice- Lip Syncing, deceiving fans, knifing "sit in singers" in the back, professional scalping of ticket sales against said fans....shall I go on?

I'm not aware of any slime ball practices or fraudulent behavior. They didn't knife anybody and I'm not sure what you are talking about professional scalping of tickets sales.

Sorry Tom. Not taking your bait here. Too smart for that.

I'm serious, what ticket scalping are you talking about.

by **Maui Tom** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:30 am

Pardon The Interruption...ESPN...Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon...

MR

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