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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Archetype » Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:00 am

Jonathan and Arnel should form a group with Ross and Steve Smith, grab someone like Henrik Danhage or August Zadra for guitar, and do a residency at Mar-A-Lago
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Monker » Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:51 am

Archetype wrote:Jonathan and Arnel should form a group with Ross and Steve Smith, grab someone like Henrik Danhage or August Zadra for guitar, and do a residency at Mar-A-Lago


Or, convince Nightmare to give them the license to the Journey name and formally kick Neal out of the band...a REAL coup.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Andrew » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:24 pm

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This has crossed into the abyss.


Sadly and unbelievably it gets worse. One of Lady M's sock puppet accounts is now claiming AP is actually in the closet and is threatening to expose him.

https://twitter.com/Princes10232918


That can't be real....Christ on a bike.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:32 pm

Neal's publicity firm TAG is now tweeting about Jonathan going to a prostitute. This is all out war!

https://twitter.com/TAGPublicity/status ... b1tp1pfseQ
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Archetype » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:41 pm

Monker wrote:
Archetype wrote:Jonathan and Arnel should form a group with Ross and Steve Smith, grab someone like Henrik Danhage or August Zadra for guitar, and do a residency at Mar-A-Lago


Or, convince Nightmare to give them the license to the Journey name and formally kick Neal out of the band...a REAL coup.


Nightmare is such a fitting name right now.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby jrnyman28 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:27 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Neal's publicity firm TAG is now tweeting about Jonathan going to a prostitute. This is all out war!

https://twitter.com/TAGPublicity/status ... b1tp1pfseQ


I find it hard to believe Tag is Neal’s PR firm. A) the guy is extremely unprofessional and B ) his clients do not fit with Neal
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:30 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:I find it hard to believe Tag is Neal’s PR firm. A) the guy is extremely unprofessional and B ) his clients do not fit with Neal



Your beliefs are irrelevant. He's used them now for a while. Even listed on their official website as a client.


https://www.tagpublicity.com/roster
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby jrnyman28 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:17 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I find it hard to believe Tag is Neal’s PR firm. A) the guy is extremely unprofessional and B ) his clients do not fit with Neal



Your beliefs are irrelevant. He's used them now for a while. Even listed on their official website as a client.


https://www.tagpublicity.com/roster


Well I guess it stands to reason with the dumpster fire
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Andrew » Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:33 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Neal's publicity firm TAG is now tweeting about Jonathan going to a prostitute. This is all out war!

https://twitter.com/TAGPublicity/status ... b1tp1pfseQ


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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Andrew » Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:42 pm

I just read that whole twitter thread.

I think the Journey lunacy has reached a new crescendo.

This ain't good for anyone.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby jestor92 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:45 pm

Neal is a musical genius, but they need to get him out of the band at this point. Saying Neal and the gold digger are a joke is is being nice at this point.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Mikele » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:25 pm

This is unbelievably sad.
Poor Arnel, he made them what they are right now since 2008
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Archetype » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:47 pm

I have a hard time believing Arnel did anything to Neal and “Lady M” to deserve this kind of treatment.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby jestor92 » Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:53 pm

Archetype wrote:I have a hard time believing Arnel did anything to Neal and “Lady M” to deserve this kind of treatment.

He probably sided with Cain on something.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Eric » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:01 am

https://twitter.com/deenthedrummer/stat ... 1ZZV6RYy2w

I guess if they don’t let it impact their performance they’ll get through the tour.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Archetype » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:32 am

Eric wrote:https://twitter.com/deenthedrummer/status/1622350224189693952?s=46&t=ccYoJXAgLhPB1ZZV6RYy2w

I guess if they don’t let it impact their performance they’ll get through the tour.



Looks like those 4 travel together and Jonathan and Arnel travel separately.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:20 am

Archetype wrote:Looks like those 4 travel together and Jonathan and Arnel travel separately.


Arnel & Cain started flying separate from the rest of the band on the last tour already.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby artinis1 » Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:21 am

At this point it’s such an embarrassment, just quit and put out live archive stuff with Perry.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Hollywood » Tue Feb 07, 2023 9:29 am

Jonathan was open about his transgressions with Liz in his book and that it had been a longer term affair and the damage he did to his relationship with is kids. Now, he didn't disclose it was a prostitute. Who knows what the truth is here. His transgression was cheating on his wife and maybe he gave the other woman money to support her and they classify this as a prostitute.

I suspect this type of BS has been going on for a while. I remember Neal making fun of Cain in an interview about his breakdown during Behind the Music over playing the song Only The Young in the hospital for the dying young man. What was missing was that it was cleverly edited by VH1 and him breaking down was from when he was talking about the school fire he was involved in as a child where 95 classmates died.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Eric » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:08 am

Eric wrote:https://twitter.com/deenthedrummer/status/1622350224189693952?s=46&t=ccYoJXAgLhPB1ZZV6RYy2w

I guess if they don’t let it impact their performance they’ll get through the tour.


They sound good. Use that tension and turn it into energy: https://youtu.be/TYDcvRqLB94
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Andrew » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:44 am

Neal and Deen look happy to be there. Todd also.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Art Vandelay » Wed Feb 08, 2023 12:39 am

Do you think they are willing/preparing to take the gamble to move forward with Jason on keys and Jason/Deen on vocals if Cain and Arnel walk?
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Archetype » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:10 am

Highly unlikely that Cain would walk. He has every bit as much stake in Journey as Neal, and there’s nothing Neal can do about it except shut up and play. Would not surprise me if Arnel calls it quits after this tour though, unless somehow Neal and “Lady M” are removed from the band.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Art Vandelay » Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:34 am

Archetype wrote:Highly unlikely that Cain would walk. He has every bit as much stake in Journey as Neal, and there’s nothing Neal can do about it except shut up and play. Would not surprise me if Arnel calls it quits after this tour though, unless somehow Neal and “Lady M” are removed from the band.


Yes I should have said after the tour. I doubt Cain goes anywhere, at the moment at least.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby danielb » Wed Feb 08, 2023 3:42 am

Maybe the only solution is Schon divorcing Lady M?
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:41 am

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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Andrew » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:30 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:https://www.change.org/p/fire-neal-schon-from-journey


Now that’s just fucking silly.
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Eric » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:35 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:https://www.change.org/p/fire-neal-schon-from-journey


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :roll:
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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Eric » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:44 am

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Re: Neal VS Jon

Postby Hollywood » Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:55 am

Andrew wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:https://www.change.org/p/fire-neal-schon-from-journey


Now that’s just fucking silly.


As much as I believe that Neal and his wife are driving this public bullshit and it some ugly shit. Cain and Schon clearly cannot get along and something has to happen. Either they shake hands, admit that they hate each other and agree to keep it in house or one of them has to go. And that can only be Jonathan Cain. Journey has no credibility without Neal.
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