Michael Jackson ***August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009***

[stevew2]

One more thing, how can you people call yourself Journey fans. This man, specifically the Thriller album, cost Journey another #1 record...for nine weeks if memeory serves correct.

Thats cause Friga aint got no soul dick bag

[stevew2]

To remember this man, one must remember it all. I will always have this dreadful image burned into my mind...




...and I am thankful that this child will not be placed in such dreadful danger ever again...

Someone did this to Tito, only he slipped

[Red13JoePa]

Ah, savoring the last (pre-vacation at least) postings of our boy teet.

The 'bat will soon be clocking in for work and will gaze upon the horrors in here

[portland]

Ah, savoring the last (pre-vacation at least) postings of our boy teet.

The 'bat will soon be clocking in for work and will gaze upon the horrors in here

From your mouth to gods ears (or the bats)

[Tito]

Has anyone heard from Eddie Van Halen yet?

"I am really shocked; as I'm sure the world is, to hear the news. I had the pleasure of working with Michael on 'Beat It' back in '83 -- one of my fondest memories in my career.

Michael will be missed and may he rest in peace."

-Eddie Van Halen

What about Dave?

13:04 and 13:12 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDKciL3oIYQ

[stevew2]

Has anyone heard from Eddie Van Halen yet?

"I am really shocked; as I'm sure the world is, to hear the news. I had the pleasure of working with Michael on 'Beat It' back in '83 -- one of my fondest memories in my career.

Michael will be missed and may he rest in peace."

-Eddie Van Halen

What about Dave?

13:04 and 13:12 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDKciL3oIYQ

you like to "beat it" dont ya Tito

[annpea]

without sins yourself in order for you to keep writing your judgemental bullshit.... I don't think MJ was a prefect person, but then none of us are... so please!!

There are different levels of imperfection and misdeeds. He crossed the line that even some of the lowest scum don't cross.

I pray to God that you have a tragic event happen to you and that you be so stupid as to post it and so help me God I will write every ugly comment I can about you and laugh about it and believe you me it won't matter how it make you feel because you will deserve it.

That's not nice. I wouldn't wish anything bad on you. However, I'm all for full disclosure. So, if something bad happens I'll let you know.

I know it wasn't nice..... But at least I came to my senses and will admit it wasn't nice of me to say what I said to you, so how many ways does it take for you to understand that your opinion has been heard and the need to keep going on and on with the ugly comments is getting old and tasteless.

[Jana]

I can mourn the loss of the TALENT Michael Jackson had, but I do not mourn the life of a man who took the innocence of children. Yes he was a father, but he also paid off a family for $20 million to keep quiet about him touching a young boy, how many others did he do that to that never said anything?

RIP Michael Jackson but now you have to answer to God for the innocence stolen by you.

I do feel Michael was a pedophile. To what degree is the issue, and the extent I just don't know. I read up on eveything there was on him b/f and very strange behavior and there was enough evidence to suggest very questionable behavior that was not innocent. Pedophiles surround themselves with children. I feel he was a very messed-up individual who loved children truly and in his mind wanted to help them, and then there was another side to him also, a darker side.

One celebrity once mentioned Michael and said in private life he didn't speak softly like he portrayed in public. He would get on the phone talking deeper and even swearing at times, not meek at all, and very savvy businesswise. Here was a good-looking young guy who had some type of body dysmorphia, and even more than that, seemed to hate the color of his own skin. He bleached his skin to be whiter than most white folks. His children don't have an ounce of black in them, obviously another father, so that tells me he didn't want his children to have the color of his skin. What caused this self-hatred of his natural looks to the point he destroyed his face and skin color? Michael had severe issues and lived a very sad life for the most part. I do mourn his great talent and I mourn the sweet talented young kid and young man, who was raised by a tyranical father and who was the money-maker for the family, never had a childhood, and how this shaped him and seems to have warped him for the rest of his adult life.

[Voyager]

LEAVE JACKO ALONE!!!

[NealIsGod]

This is interesting.

Tributes are pouring in for Michael Jackson. Queen's Brian May issued his very own tribute but also broke the news that there are unreleased recordings of Jackson and Freddie Mercury.

Here is part of May's statement/tribute: "Hard to know what to say - what to feel. I find myself wondering what might have happened on his tour ... the number of dates in the UK that he had committed to was insane. I did have a feeling it was impossible, but I was so shocked to hear that he went so suddenly. Very sad. Of course I still think of him as a boy - he used to come and see us (Queen) play when we were on tour in the States, and he and Freddie became close friends, close enough to record a couple of tracks together at Michael's house. Tracks which have never seen the light of day.

"Michael was the boy star of The Jackson Five, and always the most screamed at. I remember in their show, they tried very hard to make all the brothers equal in the presentation, but it was abundantly obvious that all most of the girl fans really wanted to see was little Michael. It was Michael who heard our track 'Another One Bites the Dust' when he came to see us on The Game tour ... and told us we were mad if we didn't release it as a single."

[Voyager]

Tributes are pouring in for Michael Jackson. Queen's Brian May issued his very own tribute but also broke the news that there are unreleased recordings of Jackson and Freddie Mercury.

Everybody who even saw Jackson look at them crosseyed is coming out of the woodwork to get in the spotlight over this. CNN had Aaron Neville on yesterday and they asked him how well he knew Jacko and he replied that he had never even met him. WTF?

Brian knows that Adam Lambert is a big Jacko fan and he wants Adam to go on tour with Queen. If they did a Jacko set they could get all the fans from the cancelled Jacko tour to attend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gtu91R360E

[Art Vandelay]

Here's an interesting article that really puts the heyday of his musical career into perspective. My apologies if this was already posted, as I don't have the time to surf through all 15 pages of this thread.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/26 ... 6575.shtml

[bluejeangirl76]

and he and Freddie became close friends, close enough to record a couple of tracks together at Michael's house. Tracks which have never seen the light of day.

I have GOT to stop reading the interwebs with the radio on. AS I READ THAT, "Under Pressure" came on the radio. That is the third time in the last hour something came on the radio directly relevant to something I was reading at the time. It's really weirding me out.

[strangegrey]

I can mourn the loss of the TALENT Michael Jackson had, but I do not mourn the life of a man who took the innocence of children. Yes he was a father, but he also paid off a family for $20 million to keep quiet about him touching a young boy, how many others did he do that to that never said anything?

RIP Michael Jackson but now you have to answer to God for the innocence stolen by you.

Stu, great post man!


Personally, I don't mourn the loss of his talent. I never appreciated what he brought to the table to begin with.


All I know is that yesterday morning, he was a recluse, a sexual predator that paid a tremendous amount of money to avoid both court & conviction and a social exile as a result of his legal troubles. The whole world was content to have him live behind closed doors and never see the light of day, so that they would not be reminded of his efforts to lure unsuspecting boys and idiot parents into his home and bedroom.

Yet today, he was a musical genius that never violated the sanctity of a child's trust or never threw his own children over the rail of a hotel balcony.

The irony is dreadfully disturbing to watch play out, both here and elsewhere.

[Marabelle]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

[JeremyP]

This is interesting.

Tributes are pouring in for Michael Jackson. Queen's Brian May issued his very own tribute but also broke the news that there are unreleased recordings of Jackson and Freddie Mercury.

Here is part of May's statement/tribute: "Hard to know what to say - what to feel. I find myself wondering what might have happened on his tour ... the number of dates in the UK that he had committed to was insane. I did have a feeling it was impossible, but I was so shocked to hear that he went so suddenly. Very sad. Of course I still think of him as a boy - he used to come and see us (Queen) play when we were on tour in the States, and he and Freddie became close friends, close enough to record a couple of tracks together at Michael's house. Tracks which have never seen the light of day.

"Michael was the boy star of The Jackson Five, and always the most screamed at. I remember in their show, they tried very hard to make all the brothers equal in the presentation, but it was abundantly obvious that all most of the girl fans really wanted to see was little Michael. It was Michael who heard our track 'Another One Bites the Dust' when he came to see us on The Game tour ... and told us we were mad if we didn't release it as a single."

Michael was one of my childhood idols and remains a huge musical influence. I'm very broken-hearted and probably will be for a long time.

That said, I just wanted to add some input on the Freddie(another huge influence/hero/idol)/Michael tracks. Queen fans are probably already aware, but Freddie was originally intended to perform "State Of Shock" with Michael instead of Mick Jagger. There is a demo circulating of this. Also, from the same session, there is a recording of Freddie's song, "There Must Be More To Life Than This" which ended up (in a re-recorded version sans Michael) on Freddie's solo album, "Mr. Bad Guy". In the Freddie/Michael version, Freddie is playing piano and instructs Michael to ad lib some lyrics. Very cool. I have both of these somewhere which I'll be glad to post if needed or you can find them at a few different places.

The only truly unreleased recording from them that I know of is called "Victory". There's a youtube clip of Freddie talking about the recording sessions and saying that he was originally gonna be on the "Thriller" album and that the Jacksons' then new album is called "Victory" but that he'd "kill him if he used the song."

I'm pretty devastated as I know most of you are...I just wanted to offer that little bit of information. The recordings that I have are very very cool and deserve to be heard in memory and celebration of both of these great talents who were taken from us much too soon.

[Tito]

I can mourn the loss of the TALENT Michael Jackson had, but I do not mourn the life of a man who took the innocence of children. Yes he was a father, but he also paid off a family for $20 million to keep quiet about him touching a young boy, how many others did he do that to that never said anything?

RIP Michael Jackson but now you have to answer to God for the innocence stolen by you.

I do feel Michael was a pedophile. To what degree is the issue, and the extent I just don't know. I read up on eveything there was on him b/f and very strange behavior and there was enough evidence to suggest very questionable behavior that was not innocent. Pedophiles surround themselves with children. I feel he was a very messed-up individual who loved children truly and in his mind wanted to help them, and then there was another side to him also, a darker side.

One celebrity once mentioned Michael and said in private life he didn't speak softly like he portrayed in public. He would get on the phone talking deeper and even swearing at times, not meek at all, and very savvy businesswise. Here was a good-looking young guy who had some type of body dysmorphia, and even more than that, seemed to hate the color of his own skin. He bleached his skin to be whiter than most white folks. His children don't have an ounce of black in them, obviously another father, so that tells me he didn't want his children to have the color of his skin. What caused this self-hatred of his natural looks to the point he destroyed his face and skin color? Michael had severe issues and lived a very sad life for the most part. I do mourn his great talent and I mourn the sweet talented young kid and young man, who was raised by a tyranical father and who was the money-maker for the family, never had a childhood, and how this shaped him and seems to have warped him for the rest of his adult life.

I could see this. Him walking into a room shouting, "What up n!gg@!"

Also, I just read he was a lipper too. Only "You Want To Be Startin' Something" was never lipped.

[Art Vandelay]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

Mike Walker, of the National Enquirer, denied that reasoning last night on a tv phone interview. According to him, he spoke often with Michael's surgeons and there was no ailment. He was simply trying to recreate his look. Take that as you will, but I found that interesting.

[Tito]

Very sad. Of course I still think of him as a boy - he used to come and see us (Queen) play when we were on tour in the States, and he and Freddie became close friends, close enough to record a couple of tracks together at Michael's house.

This explains it. This is where it all started. That prevert Freddie started it.

[sadie65]

I posted this in the forum below in the discussion taking place there:


To add to this, what does it say about us as a society that we continue to build people in the public world up to mythic, epic proportions, only to salivate when they demonstrate that they have the capacity to be less than our ideals? Admittedly, one is responsible (or should be) for how they live their life, but boy we do our part in creating this mayhem. We watched a talented entertainer derail, and we bought every juicy detail. I don't ascribe to his life choices, and I cannot know what was in his mind. I won't deify him. I will only say that we seem to thrive on building up, then tearing down, then building up these people incessantly. We did the same with Farrah. Loved her, then mocked her and laughed at her when she did Letterman and her reality show. Certainly we wanted all the details of her relationship with Ryan and her sons troubles sell magazines. Now, all we discuss is her bravery (admittedly she demonstrated great strength in facing her cancer). We don't take any responsibility for our role in it. But we will read the next tabloid story, the next Tweet, the next post in an on-line forum. Whatever these people were, I wish their loved ones some peace. It's a world I don't pretend to understand, but they were people under it all. Flawed, absolutely. Who of us isn't?

[bluejeangirl76]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

There's that word again.. "bleached". Untrue.


http://www.medicinenet.com/vitiligo/article.htm

Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white.

About 0.5 to 1 percent of the world's population, or as many as 65 million people, have vitiligo. In the United States, 1 to 2 million people have the disorder. Half the people who have vitiligo develop it before age 20; most develop it before their 40th birthday. The disorder affects both sexes and all races equally; however, it is more noticeable in people with dark skin.

"Focal pattern vitiligo and segmental vitiligo remain localized to one part of the body and do not spread. There is no way to predict if generalized vitiligo will spread. For some people, the depigmented patches do not spread. The disorder is usually progressive, however, and over time the white patches will spread to other areas of the body. For some people, vitiligo spreads slowly, over many years. For other people, spreading occurs rapidly. Some people have reported additional depigmentation following periods of physical or emotional stress."

[bluejeangirl76]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

Mike Walker, of the National Enquirer, denied that reasoning last night on a tv phone interview.

Operative words... guess which ones they are?

[Jana]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

There's that word again.. "bleached". Untrue.


http://www.medicinenet.com/vitiligo/article.htm

Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white.

About 0.5 to 1 percent of the world's population, or as many as 65 million people, have vitiligo. In the United States, 1 to 2 million people have the disorder. Half the people who have vitiligo develop it before age 20; most develop it before their 40th birthday. The disorder affects both sexes and all races equally; however, it is more noticeable in people with dark skin.

"Focal pattern vitiligo and segmental vitiligo remain localized to one part of the body and do not spread. There is no way to predict if generalized vitiligo will spread. For some people, the depigmented patches do not spread. The disorder is usually progressive, however, and over time the white patches will spread to other areas of the body. For some people, vitiligo spreads slowly, over many years. For other people, spreading occurs rapidly. Some people have reported additional depigmentation following periods of physical or emotional stress."

His whole body and face was white. Not patches all over his body.

[Don]

Before your god throws the hammer down on Jackson, can someone remind him that there are over a billion of his creations down here on Terra starving to death. i know things are done on a priority basis with the old man up there but I would see it as a deeply humane gesture if he could possibly bump the feeding the hungry appointment ahead of the alleged child molester needs to be tranferred to hell appointment. It's not like Michael is going anywhere anytime soon.

[stevew2]

Very sad. Of course I still think of him as a boy - he used to come and see us (Queen) play when we were on tour in the States, and he and Freddie became close friends, close enough to record a couple of tracks together at Michael's house.

This explains it. This is where it all started. That prevert Freddie started it.

Whats your excuse bobbler?

[bluejeangirl76]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

There's that word again.. "bleached". Untrue.


http://www.medicinenet.com/vitiligo/article.htm

Vitiligo (vit-ill-EYE-go) is a pigmentation disorder in which melanocytes (the cells that make pigment) in the skin are destroyed. As a result, white patches appear on the skin in different parts of the body. Similar patches also appear on both the mucous membranes (tissues that line the inside of the mouth and nose), and the retina (inner layer of the eyeball). The hair that grows on areas affected by vitiligo sometimes turns white.

About 0.5 to 1 percent of the world's population, or as many as 65 million people, have vitiligo. In the United States, 1 to 2 million people have the disorder. Half the people who have vitiligo develop it before age 20; most develop it before their 40th birthday. The disorder affects both sexes and all races equally; however, it is more noticeable in people with dark skin.

"Focal pattern vitiligo and segmental vitiligo remain localized to one part of the body and do not spread. There is no way to predict if generalized vitiligo will spread. For some people, the depigmented patches do not spread. The disorder is usually progressive, however, and over time the white patches will spread to other areas of the body. For some people, vitiligo spreads slowly, over many years. For other people, spreading occurs rapidly. Some people have reported additional depigmentation following periods of physical or emotional stress."

His whole body and face was white. Not patches all over his body.

You've seen his whole naked body?

1) it spreads to different degrees in different patients
2) he used corrective make up to even it it out

if you've ever seen a person with this condition, and I have - I went to school with a girl who had it, its an incredibly obvious situation, and someone in the public eye on the scale he was is not going to make appearances looking that way.

[Tito]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

Mike Walker, of the National Enquirer, denied that reasoning last night on a tv phone interview.

Operative words... guess which ones they are?

On a related note, I think the winner in all of this (maybe a poor choice of words, but I think I've already crossed that bridge to most of you) is TMZ. They've been on top of this story since the 911 call to the first to announce his death (well in advance of anyone else) to post death follow up. Exclusive pictures and news. Like it or not, they've moved up another level or two and have not only become a credible news (at least entertainment related) source but very possibly the leading news source.

[Tito]

BTW, I see the lego joke has really taken off. I just checked my cell phone and I had text on it and a bunch of other people have already heard it.

[bluejeangirl76]

Michael's skin color was bleached because his skin's pigmentation started to change due to a medical ailment.

Mike Walker, of the National Enquirer, denied that reasoning last night on a tv phone interview.

Operative words... guess which ones they are?

On a related note, I think the winner in all of this (maybe a poor choice of words, but I think I've already crossed that bridge to most of you) is TMZ. They've been on top of this story since the 911 call to the first to announce his death (well in advance of anyone else) to post death follow up. Exclusive pictures and news. Like it or not, they've moved up another level or two and have not only become a credible news (at least entertainment related) source but very possibly the leading news source.

First time in the dang thread I'm agreeing with your post.

[Tito]

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/MichaelJackson/story?id=7938599&page=1

Exclusive: Police Say Michael Jackson 'Heavily Addicted' to Oxycontin

LAPD Investigation Heats Up As Detectives Search for Mystery Doctor

By RICHARD ESPOSITO
June 26, 2009

Michael Jackson was "heavily addicted" to the powerful pain killer Oxycontin and received "daily doses" of it and of another pain killer, Demerol, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the initial investigation of his death.

The Los Angeles police were told Jackson received an injection of Demerol one hour before his death, the official said.

The information and other emerging details, make it almost certain the Los Angeles Police Homicide and Robbery Division will launch a full investigation into the circumstances of the pop singer's death. The squad was given the assignment initially because of the "high profile" nature of the case.

As part of the broadening investigation, police detectives are searching for Dr. Conrad Murray, a Las Vegas cardiologist, who was reportedly with Jackson yesterday but has not been located since.

Not to be ignored, Fact Finder also shined in this episode. He was as good as Drudge. He moved up a few places too.