Manila YouTubes here.

[Deacon]

What's that got to do with it? Any clip of Perry available of him singing Mother Father is perfection,no tiredness or fatigue evident. Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

If you focus on clips within the audio version, such as on a media player, you can hear Perry inhale and exhale quite profusely whenever he isn't singing so stating that he was not evidently fatigued is incorrect. He may not have looked as though he was fatigued, but, the audio disproves that.

His vocals on Mother Father are far superior to Deen no matter what. I still love Deen's performance b/c of what I stated up above just as much.

That is subjective, not fact. I would rather appreciate it if you would denote it as so.

Besides, I never did state that Deen's vocals were superior. As a prior discussion, on possibly another thread, stated, Deen lacks key vocal characteristics that Perry possessed. But, in my opinion, Deen's mannerisms as well as nailing the key points with some great notes set his fairly equal.

[Gideon]

Yeah. Daniel's a lot more partial (biased) for Perry than I am. Trust me. Nothing gets played more than Escape, TBF, and the Live In Houston CDs on his iPod.

[Jana]

What's that got to do with it? Any clip of Perry available of him singing Mother Father is perfection,no tiredness or fatigue evident. Having said that, Deen's performance is really enjoyable from the standpoint of the focus on him singing that song and playing the drums at the same time is amazing in its own way and adds a raw energy to the performance, with the focus also on Neal and Jon since there isn't the singer out front. Just a different experience with the song.

If you focus on clips within the audio version, such as on a media player, you can hear Perry inhale and exhale quite profusely whenever he isn't singing so stating that he was not evidently fatigued is incorrect. He may not have looked as though he was fatigued, but, the audio disproves that.

His vocals on Mother Father are far superior to Deen no matter what. I still love Deen's performance b/c of what I stated up above just as much.

That is subjective, not fact. I would rather appreciate it if you would denote it as so.Besides, I never did state that Deen's vocals were superior. As a prior discussion, on possibly another thread, stated, Deen lacks key vocal characteristics that Perry possessed. But, in my opinion, Deen's mannerisms as well as nailing the key points with some great notes set his fairly equal.

FACT. But, like I said above, I love Deen's performance just as much for different reasons, the raw energy of the performance.

[Deacon]

That's not true, although I do enjoy listening to all of the Perry-era records.

In fact, I've played more original Revelations tracks, Arrival tracks, and "Remember Me" recently than Perry-era.

[Gideon]

That's not true, although I do enjoy listening to all of the Perry-era records.

In fact, I've played more original Revelations tracks, Arrival tracks, and "Remember Me" recently than Perry-era.

Recently. That's because after being played 24/7, Perry (like all other singers) lose their luster, forcing you to give them a break.

[Deacon]

You got me on that one.

I'm glad you caught the key word in that.

[Gideon]

You got me on that one.

I'm glad you caught the key word in that.

You doubted me?

Haven't you learned by now?

[Deacon]

Never would I ever doubt you.

[Jana]

His vocals on Mother Father are far superior to Deen no matter what.

This sort of absolute statement surprises me coming from you. But, as ever, you're entitled to your opinion. I think Deen does a better job. Deen's breath control, especially at his age, is just fucking ridiculous. Better than anything I've heard of Perry. But the great one had to deal with an obscene touring schedule and two hour sets per night.

Unfair to compare them without context. Under ideal circumstances, Perry would likely have destroyed him (in my book, anyways).

I know.

I don't mind Perry's heavy breathing. But like I said to your partner in crime, I love Deen's version just as much. As far as I'm concerned, and I've said this before, it should be a staple of the shows, like Faithfully is. It's that good of a performance not just by him, but by the whole band. To me, on the Revelation DVD it was my favorite performance. It's that good.

[Gideon]

I know.

I don't mind Perry's heavy breathing.

The sexual connotations are thick.

But like I said to your bitch, I love Deen's version just as much.

You are redeeming yourself.

As far as I'm concerned, and I've said this before, it should be a staple of the shows, like Faithfully is. It's that good of a performance not just by him, but by the whole band. To me, on the Revelation DVD it was my favorite performance. It's that good.

I can agree. For me, I loved AATY, Lights, and NWA from the DVD.

[Jana]

I know.

I don't mind Perry's heavy breathing.

The sexual connotations are thick.

But like I said to your bitch, I love Deen's version just as much.

You are redeeming yourself.

As far as I'm concerned, and I've said this before, it should be a staple of the shows, like Faithfully is. It's that good of a performance not just by him, but by the whole band. To me, on the Revelation DVD it was my favorite performance. It's that good.

I can agree. For me, I loved AATY, Lights, and NWA from the DVD.

Well, let me restate that. My favorite songs of the DVD were Lights and Mother Father. Although, I could listen to Faithfully two times a week for the rest of my life and never tire of it.

[Gideon]

Well, let me restate that. My favorite songs of the DVD were Lights and Mother Father. Although, I could listen to Faithfully two times a week for the rest of my life and never tire of it.

Faithfully?

Christ, no. I could give you a thesis on why songs like "Faithfully" and "Open Arms" are overrated. Not because they suck, but because Journey has so many other ballads that just kick the utter dogshit out of them. I occasionally listen to Perry's studio version; Arnel's studio version has been listened to perhaps twice and the videos for the song in Vegas and Manila have been watched once as well.

[stevew2]

Who says Augeri doesn't have sour grapes?

He said in an interveiw he moved on and shit like that,it one he did with Andrew ,a little while back

I took that with a grain of salt. He chose to take the high road and not make it an issue. I'm sure he's not happy with what went down. He's also legally bound to shut the piehole! I think he's a great guy, and it's just sad what happened. I blame all involved, right down to the musicians. It was a bad decision, and they all knew.

I agree, i hope he got paid well to keep his piehole shut,he deservred it

[Jana]

Well, let me restate that. My favorite songs of the DVD were Lights and Mother Father. Although, I could listen to Faithfully two times a week for the rest of my life and never tire of it.

Faithfully?

Christ, no. I could give you a thesis on why songs like "Faithfully" and "Open Arms" are overrated. Not because they suck, but because Journey has so many other ballads that just kick the utter dogshit out of them. I occasionally listen to Perry's studio version; Arnel's studio version has been listened to perhaps twice and the videos for the song in Vegas and Manila have been watched once as well.

It's not even in my top five favorite Journey songs. Don't ask me why, but I love to listen to it. Perry's is one of his best vocals as his voice was changing, a rich and soulful delivery, and Arnel's for the sheer power and crispness of his vocals, even though technically not as good or as polished in delivery.
You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

[Gideon]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Gotta hand it to them...the new touch-ups sound seamless.
You would think they would sound unnecessary, or at worse, a knee-jerk attempt to modernize their sound, but these are really at the service of the material.
Fits the dozen like a mink trojan.

What was the weakest touch up to you?

Maybe WITS, only because it's more of a jam than a melodic flourish.
Really impressed with OA, Neal managed to superimpose a haunting melody onto an existing classic.

[Jubilee]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.

[Deacon]

The "Open Arms" Neal solo was one of my favorite additions to the show, as well. It made a crappy song, already made less crappy by Arnel, decent.

[Gideon]

Gotta hand it to them...the new touch-ups sound seamless.
You would think they would sound unnecessary, or at worse, a knee-jerk attempt to modernize their sound, but these are really at the service of the material.
Fits the dozen like a mink trojan.

What was the weakest touch up to you?

Maybe WITS, only because it's more of a jam than a melodic flourish.
Really impressed with OA, Neal managed to superimpose a haunting melody onto an existing classic.

True. But almost anything can be an improvement on the structure of OA.
I thought WITS was the strongest, myself. I'm leaving it open about AWYWI, since I haven't heard a particularly great quality one.

[Jana]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Why don't I ever have good comebacks like that.

[Gideon]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

[Jubilee]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

[Jana]

The "Open Arms" Neal solo was one of my favorite additions to the show, as well. It made a crappy song, already made less crappy by Arnel, decent.

I agree. I was so tired of that song, but Neal's solo really gave it a new feel.

[Gideon]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

SJ nor Stevew will let this go, I'm afraid. You know how they are about posts concerning the pursuit of vaginas. I predict a fantastic Jonathan Cain joke on the rise.

[Jubilee]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

SJ nor Stevew will let this go, I'm afraid. You know how they are about posts concerning the pursuit of vaginas. I predict a fantastic Jonathan Cain joke on the rise.

Oh, dear God! What have I done!? Can't we just stipulate the obligatory Jon Cain/Friga joke and move on? No? Somehow I didn't think so.

[Gideon]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

SJ nor Stevew will let this go, I'm afraid. You know how they are about posts concerning the pursuit of vaginas. I predict a fantastic Jonathan Cain joke on the rise.

Oh, dear God! What have I done!? Can't we just stipulate the obligatory Jon Cain/Friga joke and move on? No? Somehow I didn't think so.

I do feel bad for Cain. But the "number one fag" joke by Stevew was about as good as Beshad's joke about Lights being revamped into "Lights Out Bitch" by Chris Brown ft. Rhianna.

I lol'd my ass off twice.

[Jubilee]

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

SJ nor Stevew will let this go, I'm afraid. You know how they are about posts concerning the pursuit of vaginas. I predict a fantastic Jonathan Cain joke on the rise.

Oh, dear God! What have I done!? Can't we just stipulate the obligatory Jon Cain/Friga joke and move on? No? Somehow I didn't think so.

I do feel bad for Cain. But the "number one fag" joke by Stevew was about as good as Beshad's joke about Lights being revamped into "Lights Out Bitch" by Chris Brown ft. Rhianna.

I lol'd my ass off twice.

That was a good 'un, I'll give you that, but nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats "I'll Be Alright Without Your Ass". That was a classic. I'm not sure if that one was Beshad's, but I seriously almost hurt myself laughing.

[Blueskies]

Deen!... Mother Father

Just quickly scanned by most of this thread and haven't had time to listen to the others posted but I did listen to this and Deen did great. The best I've heard him sing, actually.

[Majestic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFsrRqFdKLg&feature=channel_page

Neal's first solo starts at 3:37.

The jam session (which consists of a second, third, fourth, fifth... millionth solo) starts at around the 4:00 mark.

It's the riff from HSAS "My Home Town."

[stevew2]

Thats

You will say that doesn't make sense, that it must be in my top five then. But I don't always make sense anyway.

I'm telling you, I truly believe a vagina increases the wackiness in a human being.

No. It's the [b]pursuit of a vagina that increases wackiness in a human being.[/b]

Are we still talking about you?

Edit: Completely confused you and Jana, lmao. Jubilee, you have inspired an interesting conversation.

Thats what what Journey was doing when they stole the vagina from the Babys,does that make him a babys vagina??? Look how she turned out

SJ nor Stevew will let this go, I'm afraid. You know how they are about posts concerning the pursuit of vaginas. I predict a fantastic Jonathan Cain joke on the rise.

Thats what what Journey was doing when they stole the vagina from the Babys,does that make him a babys vagina??? Look how she turned out