"journey" press conference this week in Sweden

[Gideon]

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

But for me?

Of course, you may say: "Well we have proof! Actions!" And you'd likely cite the firing of JSS and the mistreatment of Steve Augeri. And I would accept that. But we have proof of Perry's indiscretions: Gregg Rolie's departure from the band, the shitcanning of Steve Smith and Ross Valory, the egomania that drove ROR, the deceit where Perry claimed to be burned out and yet attempted to put a solo album out in less than two years rather than return to the band (only to have karma bitchslap aforementioned album into oblivion), a second attempt at a solo album and the subsequent tour, the entire TBF fiasco: the firing of Herbie Herbert -- the man whom Perry singlehandedly praises for giving him a career -- and the blatant narcissism of trying to keep the band from moving on without him.

That is enough for a reasonable person to conclude that Perry was extremely selfish and destructive when it came to the band. I honestly don't see how anyone can deny it or try to sugar coat it.

I am a logical person, but I don't have to accept anything that you say, just because you say it. The fact that Neal Schon has been married and divorced what, FOUR times now, certainly lays proof to the claim of what kind of man he is.

I'm not telling you to accept it because I said it. I gave you proof, evidence, Perry's own actions, which you seem more than happy to ignore. I suppose that's fine. But in the real world, four divorces (of which the circumstances are not well known nor public knowledge) doesn't somehow mitigate or diminish the several examples of Perry's assholish ways.

Particularly when no one defended Neal as a husband or as a human being.

But I digress. And no, you didn't come off condescending. You just didn't make any sense IMHO.

[donnaplease]

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

But for me?

Of course, you may say: "Well we have proof! Actions!" And you'd likely cite the firing of JSS and the mistreatment of Steve Augeri. And I would accept that. But we have proof of Perry's indiscretions: Gregg Rolie's departure from the band, the shitcanning of Steve Smith and Ross Valory, the egomania that drove ROR, the deceit where Perry claimed to be burned out and yet attempted to put a solo album out in less than two years rather than return to the band (only to have karma bitchslap aforementioned album into oblivion), a second attempt at a solo album and the subsequent tour, the entire TBF fiasco: the firing of Herbie Herbert -- the man whom Perry singlehandedly praises for giving him a career -- and the blatant narcissism of trying to keep the band from moving on without him.

That is enough for a reasonable person to conclude that Perry was extremely selfish and destructive when it came to the band. I honestly don't see how anyone can deny it or try to sugar coat it.

I am a logical person, but I don't have to accept anything that you say, just because you say it. The fact that Neal Schon has been married and divorced what, FOUR times now, certainly lays proof to the claim of what kind of man he is.

I'm not telling you to accept it because I said it. I gave you proof, evidence, Perry's own actions, which you seem more than happy to ignore. I suppose that's fine. But in the real world, four divorces (of which the circumstances are not well known nor public knowledge) doesn't somehow mitigate or diminish the several examples of Perry's assholish ways.

Particularly when no one defended Neal as a husband or as a human being.

But I digress. And no, you didn't come off condescending. You just didn't make any sense IMHO.

OK, first off... you've mentioned a few times Gregg Rolie leaving Journey as due to SP. I guess I'm gonna have to go back into my history of the band, because I don't remember him saying that SP was the reason. If I remember correctly (and I may not, it's been a while) he stated there were many reasons he wanted out. Maybe someone here can provide a link to the BTM or an interview or something to clarify that for me.

As for SP, I don't think anyone is trying to deny anything. Early on in this debate I said (and have said a few times since) that even SP himself has admitted to doing things that in hindsight weren't right. Yet you keep saying it as if it's the first time anyone has brought it up. You talk about SP and the decisions he made that were destructive, but have you thought to mention that Neal Schon said HIMSELF that he let SP take over the reigns. How many times has it been said here that Neal 'just wants to play the guitar'. And if you think 4 divorces is not an indication of what kind of man and husband Neal is, you just need to pack in your keyboard and call it a night. At the end of the day, one would be forced to admit that there has been much shame that has been brought to Journey in the past few years (tapegate and the treatment of SA and JSS - regardless of what we think, it's evident that there are folks in the music biz who thought the JSS debacle was low) that has absolutely nothing to do with SP. He never brought shame to the band, and is still highly regarded in the industry.

Oh, and BTW, Pot, you're black too.

[Gideon]

OK, first off... you've mentioned a few times Gregg Rolie leaving Journey as due to SP. I guess I'm gonna have to go back into my history of the band, because I don't remember him saying that SP was the reason. If I remember correctly (and I may not, it's been a while) he stated there were many reasons he wanted out. Maybe someone here can provide a link to the BTM or an interview or something to clarify that for me.

If I recall correctly, Herbie Herbert and Neal Schon have both gone on record with the fact that Steve Perry and Gregg Rolie had many disputes during Rolie's tenure in the band and that it was a great source of Rolie's desire to get out.

As for SP, I don't think anyone is trying to deny anything. Early on in this debate I said (and have said a few times since) that even SP himself has admitted to doing things that in hindsight weren't right. Yet you keep saying it as if it's the first time anyone has brought it up. You talk about SP and the decisions he made that were destructive, but have you thought to mention that Neal Schon said HIMSELF that he let SP take over the reigns. How many times has it been said here that Neal 'just wants to play the guitar'.

What's your point? As people like to point out here ad nauseum, "lulz perry was teh source of jernee's suxess!" or "lulz he was teh leader!!1!" Neal Schon accepted that Perry was the focal point of their success and popularity and, accordingly, entrusted him with the reigns. People want to constantly reference Perry's tireless, timeless, flawless direction. Well guess what? He was the leader. Leaders take responsibilities. If he gets the credit for their success, he's also responsible for their fuck ups. The fact that Neal Schon "let" him have the reigns is an argument in favor of Neal trusting Perry implicitly. We as a nation "let" the President of the United States have the reigns to govern and command; yet when he fucks up, he's brought to task.

If the most powerful man in the world doesn't enjoy immunity from criticism, then Steve Perry doesn't either. Period.

And if you think 4 divorces is not an indication of what kind of man and husband Neal is, you just need to pack in your keyboard and call it a night.

No one claimed that Neal Schon was an ideal husband. But since you seem to know so much about the intimate details of his relationships, enlighten the rest of it. I would like to see ironclad proof that Schon's divorces were solely the product of Schon's problems. Because, last time I checked, it takes two to tango.

Then you can get around to explaining how this somehow makes Schon a more destructive force as regards the band.

At the end of the day, one would be forced to admit that there has been much shame that has been brought to Journey in the past few

Forced? If I may quote you:

"I am a logical person, but I don't have to accept anything that you say, just because you say it" and "Just please don't tell me what to think and criticize me for not agreeing with you."

I lose my natural goodwill when people don't play fair.

years (tapegate and the treatment of SA and JSS - regardless of what we think, it's evident that there are folks in the music biz who thought the JSS debacle was low)

Brian May, yes. Please cite others.

that has absolutely nothing to do with SP. He never brought shame to the band, and is still highly regarded in the industry.

Proof that the rest of the band isn't? Steve Vai, Sammy Hagar, and others still speak quite highly of Neal Schon.

Oh, and BTW, Pot, you're black too.

I haven't tried to sugarcoat, to spin, or to twist anything. I don't know the details of Neal Schon's marriages, and presumably neither do you. Perry's indiscretions are public knowledge and have been well covered in many mediums. As people so often mention, Perry himself is ashamed of it and has expressed guilt, suggesting that he is fully aware that his actions were considerably detrimental to the band. The facts are quite clear.

Now, on the subject of Neal's marriages, no one here claimed that he was a great husband. In fact, I would argue that one could still be a fickle husband or even a bad husband and still be a decent human being (I refer you to Bill Clinton and other acclaimed presidents who have had affairs).

Thus is the problem: Perry is being brought to task for shit that has happened directly concerning the band. Neal Schon's marriages are personal attacks and are irrelevant. I have you on the facts and I certainly have you on pertinent information. As far as Journey concerns, Perry was a bigger asshole than Neal.

[artist4perry]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

[youkeepmewaiting]

The things about human flaws is that they can be very interesting, but often hard to ... wait.. what the fuck am I saying?! Who the hell cares! Journey is Journey.

[Gideon]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

[Deb]

What's your point? As people like to point out here ad nauseum, "lulz perry was teh source of jernee's suxess!" or "lulz he was teh leader!!1!"

Can someone please tell me what lulz means. Is it a new way of saying lol??? If so, why for change it???? Silly.

[Don]

What's your point? As people like to point out here ad nauseum, "lulz perry was teh source of jernee's suxess!" or "lulz he was teh leader!!1!"

Can someone please tell me what lulz means. Is it a new way of saying lol??? If so, why for change it???? Silly.

You have to be 14 and under to get it.

[portland]

What's your point? As people like to point out here ad nauseum, "lulz perry was teh source of jernee's suxess!" or "lulz he was teh leader!!1!"

Can someone please tell me what lulz means. Is it a new way of saying lol??? If so, why for change it???? Silly.

You have to be 14 and under to get it.

and really full of yourself as well

[Deb]

People want to constantly reference Perry's tireless, timeless, flawless direction. Well guess what? He was the leader. Leaders take responsibilities. If he gets the credit for their success, he's also responsible for their fuck ups. The fact that Neal Schon "let" him have the reigns is an argument in favor of Neal trusting Perry implicitly. We as a nation "let" the President of the United States have the reigns to govern and command; yet when he fucks up, he's brought to task.

Wait, I thought HH was the leader, when did Perry offcially acquire that title? And wowzers, Perry's movin' on up.......now he's being compared to the President of the United States??

[donnaplease]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

[Deacon]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

Donnaplease, please.

You can be an asshole and not a despicable person. I'm on record as being an asshole most of the time, yet I belong to community service-oriented clubs such as SR. BETA, the FFA, etc.

[Gideon]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

Again, no one said that Steve Perry was a more despicable human being or worse [in daily life than Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain]. In fact, you'll note that I didn't bother bringing up any of Perry's personal life. Only Perry's professional life as regards Journey, to which I must refer:

I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

And, if I may quote you elsewhere:

"What about the rest of my post?"

[steveo777]

Almost to 500 posts folks. Not bad for a thread where a member joined just to come in and incite the membership making a splash with some uber trolling right off the bat.

Now that is some funny shit right there.

[Jana]

Giddy, no offense, but we can all be idiots or unkind or stupid through the course of our lives. Some mistakes become more public than others. Only thing that makes it easier for folks like you or I is most people get over it and move on. Unfortunately if your in the public eye, forgiveness does not come easy. There are always people who will never let you forget, nor do they forgive. I am not directing this at anyone, it is just a thought.

But it seems pointless to have a contest over who is more of an @#$$@##hole than the other. Not unless you live with both men 24 hours a day would you be able to speculate such a stupid thing. And to what end? What have you truely accomplished? Just don't get the purpose of this whole thing.

Personally I like to see both people, as talented humans.......complete with feet of clay.

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

You guys have great chemistry in your arguing. Kind of like a great comedy team.

[Gideon]

You guys have great chemistry in your arguing. Kind of like a great comedy team.

There's intense sexual tension.

[donnaplease]

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

Again, no one said that Steve Perry was a more despicable human being or worse [in daily life than Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain]. In fact, you'll note that I didn't bother bringing up any of Perry's personal life. Only Perry's professional life as regards Journey, to which I must refer:

I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

And, if I may quote you elsewhere:

"What about the rest of my post?"

You're gonna build some great leg muscles, with all the back-pedaling you're doing.

Really, you never clarified personal or professional til just now. It started out as SP's a bigger asshole than Arnel, and then it caught fire. It's been as fun as it's been irritating...

As for the rest of your post, IDK if I agree with it or not. I never put the eff-ups (I'm really trying not to curse anymore, so it's a real challenge to post on this board) side by side to compare and contrast. But have you ever heard of the term 'negligence'. Certainly as intelligent as you are, you're familiar with it. One could argue that Neal's negligence with regard to the running of "HIS BAND" led to SP taking the reigns to start with. Sometimes not doing anything is as bad, or worse, than actually doing something.

Now, it's not above my reasoning that I'm just a LOON, and I always see the Perry cup as half full. I will almost always fall on his side of the fence, simply 'cause he's cuter...

So there...

[Jana]

And no one said that Perry was a more despicable human being or even worse. I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

Au contraire, mon frere. That's not what you said. This is gonna be fun. Gideon's greatest hits...

I like to point out that while Perry was the greater singer, he's also on record for being a far greater asshole than Pineda.

Just a reminder that Arnel is on record for being a better human being than the great Perry.

Arnel is on record as being a better human being than Perry.

Well, if you're a logical person, and you believe that Cain and Schon are assholes, then you simply have no choice but to accept the fact that Perry himself was also an asshole of greater proportions.

Now... you were saying???

Again, no one said that Steve Perry was a more despicable human being or worse [in daily life than Neal Schon or Jonathan Cain]. In fact, you'll note that I didn't bother bringing up any of Perry's personal life. Only Perry's professional life as regards Journey, to which I must refer:

I said "as far as Journey is concerned", Perry was a more destructive, malignant influence than Neal Schon. Which is true.

And, if I may quote you elsewhere:

"What about the rest of my post?"

You're gonna build some great leg muscles, with all the back-pedaling you're doing.

Really, you never clarified personal or professional til just now. It started out as SP's a bigger asshole than Arnel, and then it caught fire. It's been as fun as it's been irritating...

As for the rest of your post, IDK if I agree with it or not. I never put the eff-ups (I'm really trying not to curse anymore, so it's a real challenge to post on this board) side by side to compare and contrast. But have you ever heard of the term 'negligence'. Certainly as intelligent as you are, you're familiar with it. One could argue that Neal's negligence with regard to the running of "HIS BAND" led to SP taking the reigns to start with. Sometimes not doing anything is as bad, or worse, than actually doing something.

Now, it's not above my reasoning that I'm just a LOON, and I always see the Perry cup as half full. I will almost always fall on his side of the fence, simply 'cause he's cuter...
So there...

See, now there's some logic a woman will understand. Makes perfect sense to me, DonnaPlease. And I will always fall on Neal's side of the fence because he probably is very . . . . . well, never mind. j/k

[portland]

I agree with Jana on the logic part......but as we know I am on the side DonnaPlease likes to water the garden on

[Gideon]

You're gonna build some great leg muscles, with all the back-pedaling you're doing.

Nonsense. The muscles are gained from chasing you. Chicken.

Really, you never clarified personal or professional til just now. It started out as SP's a bigger asshole than Arnel, and then it caught fire. It's been as fun as it's been irritating...

I'll certainly take responsibility for not labeling it, but it should have been obvious when I didn't even attempt to go near Perry's professional life. This is a Journey board and as someone who recognizes the obvious personal, moral, and emotional deficits some of these members have demonstrated, I couldn't care less how they are at home. We hear horror stories all the time regarding the personal lives of singers and musicians; a lot of them are serious assholes. That's why I don't bother discussing Perry's relationship with Sherrie or Neal's divorces; it has fuck all to do with the band itself.

But the conflicts that pertain directly to the band? Their shitcanning of JSS, SA, Ross Valory, Steve Smith, and HH? The so-called Tapegate scandal? The Trial By Fire fiasco? Those are all things to be discussed and things by which to take the band to task for.

Perry does not enjoy sovereign immunity because he is Steve Perry.

As for the rest of your post, IDK if I agree with it or not. I never put the eff-ups (I'm really trying not to curse anymore, so it's a real challenge to post on this board) side by side to compare and contrast. But have you ever heard of the term 'negligence'. Certainly as intelligent as you are, you're familiar with it. One could argue that Neal's negligence with regard to the running of "HIS BAND" led to SP taking the reigns to start with. Sometimes not doing anything is as bad, or worse, than actually doing something.

One could, but one would still be [forced?] to comprehend that that still doesn't mitigate Perry's actions.

Now, it's not above my reasoning that I'm just a LOON, and I always see the Perry cup as half full. I will almost always fall on his side of the fence, simply 'cause he's cuter...[

So there...

Joking aside, the Loon mentality is a dangerous one. Be a fan of Neal Schon and Steve Perry for their musicianship or their charisma or whatever. But to turn a blind eye to their faults and their poor decisions simply because one is the Voice? That's the kind of thinking that ends up in Hitler fanworship.

[portland]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

[Gideon]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

[portland]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

[Gideon]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

[portland]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

[Gideon]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

Thank you?

[portland]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

Thank you?

Nope

[Gideon]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

Thank you?

Nope

"Nope"?

Why would you be thinking that?

[portland]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

Thank you?

Nope

"Nope"?

Why would you be thinking that?

I am not thinking that either and you already know that....

[Gideon]

Gideon - Do you really think that Hitler is a proper person for a comparision here?

People typically use extremes in analogies to get their point across. Obviously Adolf Hitler wouldn't dream of pulling the same shit Steve Perry did; he [Hitler] was a proponent of taking the moral high ground.

Once again you never fail to solidify my opinion of your posts......glad that you did not disappoint this time.

I aim to please.

Please is not the word I am thinking of....try again

Thank you?

Nope

"Nope"?

Why would you be thinking that?

I am not thinking that either and you already know that....

You're so fickle.