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Postby JourneyTroll » Fri May 13, 2005 6:15 am

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I won't be posting much since I am preparing for an awesome Rolling Stones tour with millions upon millions of fans instead of maybe 150,000 Journey fans. Take care and have fun listening to "Don't Stop Believin'"

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Good riddance.


Take care NobleCause. Generations is a wimpy sounding rock album name. The CD will be collecting dust after two weeks. Have fun at the show at Buffalo Chip with the other 1,000 Journey fans. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Monker » Fri May 13, 2005 6:48 am

This means I want to do other things than discuss a HAS-BEEN band like Journey. I will be going to other Stones shows too with their millions upon million of fans worldwide. Maybe Journey can open up for the Stones like they did in 1981. I have a hoagie for them.


I think what he means is that he is going to switch nicks for a while until people start calling him "Joe" again.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri May 13, 2005 8:12 am

JourneyTroll wrote:This means I want to do other things than discuss a HAS-BEEN band like Journey. I will be going to other Stones shows too with their millions upon million of fans worldwide. Maybe Journey can open up for the Stones like they did in 1981. I have a hoagie for them.

So long for now,
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Yeah, Like the Stones are not a HAS-BEEN band.
They are another band that puts out new music but do not support it.
They are another band that has a cult following (albeit, a much larger one).
They don't ROCK!
They LOOK DEAD!
They play the clasics.

They are a legacy band.
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Postby LAWoman » Fri May 13, 2005 1:03 pm

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JourneyTroll wrote:Haven't you heard, silly boy; I am "Fred."


Which is a reference to Rock'n Deano accidentally calling him Fred in earlier posts. That had been cleared up, so it is obvious to me that Yak was being sarcastic with you.

I missed that post. Who cares who YAK is. I'm still not Joe Reardon.

JourneyTroll wrote:I won't be posting much since I am preparing for an awesome Rolling Stones tour with millions upon millions of fans instead of maybe 150,000 Journey fans. Take care and have fun listening to "Don't Stop Believin'"

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Just what do you have to do to "prepare" for the Rolling Stones tour? So far you have said you are going to ONE show. And it is not for quite some time. I have no problem with you 'lying low' for a while...I quite prefer it. But this statement is ridiculous...even for you.


This means I want to do other things than discuss a HAS-BEEN band like Journey. I will be going to other Stones shows too with their millions upon million of fans worldwide. Maybe Journey can open up for the Stones like they did in 1981. I have a hoagie for them.

So long for now,
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I'm sorry but the Rolling Stones should have done the respectible thing and retire a long time ago. Haven't they had several farewell tours? I recall an interview with Keith in which he basically admitted they tour for the money--although I don't see how they could need more money at this point. Then again, aside from Sympathy for the Devil and Paint it Black, I've never really liked the Stones, even though they are supposed to be legends and all. It's all just a matter of taste.
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Postby perryfaithful » Fri May 13, 2005 11:37 pm

LAWoman wrote:I'm sorry but the Rolling Stones should have done the respectible thing and retire a long time ago. Haven't they had several farewell tours? I recall an interview with Keith in which he basically admitted they tour for the money--although I don't see how they could need more money at this point. Then again, aside from Sympathy for the Devil and Paint it Black, I've never really liked the Stones, even though they are supposed to be legends and all. It's all just a matter of taste.


oh dear Barb.....and Journey tours for what? Cause they have nothing better to do? I have often thought Journey should have retired also. At least when the Stones come out to play it is THE STONES....the same guys I loved way back when....the REAL DEAL!! I checked into tickets at GIANTS STADIUM on the early bird plan and couldn't get a decent thing, on the first day. Wiped out
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby NealIsGod » Sat May 14, 2005 1:39 am

The Stones are so rich, I can't imagine money being motivation to tour. I think they genuinely love it. More power to 'em.

Journey is not quite in the same position! But I for one am glad they are still putting out music and touring. Can't wait for the new CD.
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Postby SF-Dano » Sat May 14, 2005 8:00 am

The Rolling Stones do not have all the original members. In fact it would be quite impossible since their oringal guitarist has been dead for quite some time now. Then came Mick Taylor, who was replaced by Ron Wood.

Bill Wyman left the band a few years back and I have not heard that he has returned.

You are again basing what defines the "Real Deal" on the vocalist. Yes Mick has been there the whole time, but to discount the other contributions the various other musicians have contributed is ridiculous. Would the Stones still be the "Real Deal" if Keith Richards were not there?

By your reasoning, if the current Rolling Stones are the "Real Deal", then the current version of Journey is also the "Real Deal".
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Postby perryfaithful » Sat May 14, 2005 11:39 am

SF-DANO wrote:You are again basing what defines the "Real Deal" on the vocalist.



Really? I didn't say that.........

"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat May 14, 2005 2:36 pm

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SF-DANO wrote:You are again basing what defines the "Real Deal" on the vocalist.



Really? I didn't say that.........





Well since SF-Dano just proved you wrong and The Rolling Stones are not the "real deal" (as you claim them to be) then pray, do tell, just how exactly did you come to that erroneous and now repudiated conclusion?
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Postby LAWoman » Sat May 14, 2005 3:00 pm

NealIsGod wrote:The Stones are so rich, I can't imagine money being motivation to tour. I think they genuinely love it. More power to 'em.

Journey is not quite in the same position! But I for one am glad they are still putting out music and touring. Can't wait for the new CD.


So Keith would say something that negative why--to piss off Mick? He certainly wasn't talking like he liked touring.

You'd think a lot of rich people would not be motivated by money, but the more money you have the more you spend, the more you need/want. You'd think Elton John would not be motivated by money, but all his records have been totally calculated to get the most cash as are his tours. You'd think Michael Jackson would not think so highly of money that'd he'd buy McCartney's catalogue and screw up a friendship, would you? That's just a few of the most obvious examples. People will do a lot of things for money.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat May 14, 2005 3:57 pm

LAWoman wrote: People will do a lot of things for money.


Including replacing lead vocalists who'll no longer work.
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun May 15, 2005 1:57 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
LAWoman wrote: People will do a lot of things for money.


Including replacing lead vocalists who'll no longer work.




Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

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Postby perryfaithful » Sun May 15, 2005 2:16 am

PROPERRY wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
LAWoman wrote: People will do a lot of things for money.


Including replacing lead vocalists who'll no longer work.




Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 2:49 am

PROPERRY wrote:Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Telling Journey to keep Steve Perry makes as much sense as telling AC/DC to keep Bon Scott.
Perry is finished, washed up, dead.
He doesn't sing anymore.
Comprende?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 2:51 am

perryfaithful wrote:Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO



God lord woman, I can feel your anger radiating right off my screen.

You are angry that Journey has a new cd.
You are angry that Journey still tours.
And most of all, you are angry that Perry has (deservedly) left you behind in the dirt.

Frankly, I hope your jealousy eats you alive.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 3:02 am

PROPERRY wrote:Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


perryfaithful wrote:Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO



Oh, and just in case you missed it the last 17 billion times,


"Once and for all, if Steve Perry wanted to sing, or wants to sing at ANY TIME, any manager, promoter or agent would be ecstatic. It’s not that anyone is preventing him or standing in his way; in fact, the Journey band with Steve Augeri has an open invitation to him to sing any songs (or even one) at any Journey show, now or in the future. Irving Azoff and John Baruck (Journey’s managers) have an open invitation to Steve Perry to do one song, one show, or a tour, or anything Steve Perry would want to do, at any time. Unfortunately, at this time Steve Perry prefers a private life and does not want to sing."- Steve Perry's friend, confidante and all around music insider big wig, John Kalodner
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Postby perryfaithful » Sun May 15, 2005 3:54 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO



God lord woman, I can feel your anger radiating right off my screen.

You are angry that Journey has a new cd.
You are angry that Journey still tours.
And most of all, you are angry that Perry has (deservedly) left you behind in the dirt.

Frankly, I hope your jealousy eats you alive.


Angry?? Did you read over the past where I said I was laughing?? You are so predictable! As usual, only a short time before your head popped off and your mouth would start spitting and sputtering. Do you really need to worry about Journey's future so much? Is your finger in the hole of the dike of Journey's future?? Ease up buddy!!
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun May 15, 2005 4:26 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Telling Journey to keep Steve Perry makes as much sense as telling AC/DC to keep Bon Scott.
Perry is finished, washed up, dead.
He doesn't sing anymore.
Comprende?






Steve Perry is alive & well! I HEAR Steve Perry's music on the radio EVERYDAY! :D :D

Funny thing is though, I DON'T hear ANY MUSIC playing on the radio from the current Journey at all!!!

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun May 15, 2005 4:35 am

LAWoman wrote:You'd think Elton John would not be motivated by money, but all his records have been totally calculated to get the most cash as are his tours.


Bad example since all of Elton John's revenue has been donated to AIDS research since about 1991...
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun May 15, 2005 4:36 am

PROPERRY wrote:Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Why? They would be making NO MONEY since they would not being recording OR TOURING!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun May 15, 2005 4:41 am

perryfaithful wrote:Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO


Journey has played almost ALL sizes of venues throughout the past 7 years. Small theaters, amphitheaters, small arenas, casinos, fairs, festivals...you name it, Journey has played it. The only venue Journey is not and has not played since Steve Augeri joined, is the full size arenas. I don't think that is too bad for ANY early 80's band. In fact, other than a select few, NO ONE who has been huge in the past 5-7 years is playing those large arenas. Not even NIN, with their huge following and long wait between CDs, is playing large venues. Legacy acts, flavor of the day, or festivals are the only acts to play those venues...
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Postby perryfaithful » Sun May 15, 2005 4:43 am

jrnyman28 wrote:[ They would be making NO MONEY since they would not being recording OR TOURING!


Do we REALLY know what would have happened??
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun May 15, 2005 5:05 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Why? They would be making NO MONEY since they would not being recording OR TOURING!





It was the DECISION by the BAND (or should I say Neal) to "fire him", so like Perryfaithful says, we don't really know what would have happened??

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun May 15, 2005 5:38 am

PROPERRY wrote:It was the DECISION by the BAND (or should I say Neal) to "fire him", so like Perryfaithful says, we don't really know what would have happened??

Lori


Well, if you want to be specific, it was Neal AND Jon's decision to move on without Perry. But Perry was not fired. Jon called, said 'we want to go', Perry said you can't go back, Jon said 'I know'. Effectively, Perry stepped aside and allowed Journey to continue. We all know that Perry could have held Journey up in court, or could have said 'I am gonne do this or that so that we can tour', or he could have asked for a little more time if Perry really wanted to continue with Journey. Or he could have ensured that Journey never perfomed as Journey again. Perry stepped down.

But Perry was out of touch with the band for almost two years while he tried to decide what was best for him. I do not have any problem with him trying to make the best decision for himself. But if the guys were truly friends, they would have been in more direct contact concerning Perry's condition. It was not a band decision, but the band should have been kept informed.

In the end, given Journey's and Perry's history since 1986 to 1996, I believe I can honestly say that I DO know Journey would not still be touring and recording if Perry were still involved. But you are correct that it is still just my opinion.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 10:10 am

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jrnyman28 wrote:[ They would be making NO MONEY since they would not being recording OR TOURING!


Do we REALLY know what would have happened??


Being that now, some 7 years after the TBF debacle, Perry still chooses NOT to tour, the answer is a big fat unequivocal YES.

Get a clue.
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Postby perryfaithful » Sun May 15, 2005 10:27 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Being that now, some 7 years after the TBF debacle, Perry still chooses NOT to tour, the answer is a big fat unequivocal YES.

Get a clue.




Tour? Why? Is he the lead singer of Journey still and I just missed it?????
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 10:40 am

PROPERRY wrote:It was the DECISION by the BAND (or should I say Neal) to "fire him", so like Perryfaithful says, we don't really know what would have happened??

Lori



I love it!

Anything to extricate Perry from any accountability whatsoever.

Of course, it's not HIS fault that HE hasn't toured in a decade and still currently choses not to sing.

Haven't you heard?
When Neal fired him in 96 he also ripped out his vocal chords and stole his free will.


And you people say you aren't brainwashed... :roll:
Disgusting.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 15, 2005 10:41 am

perryfaithful wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Being that now, some 7 years after the TBF debacle, Perry still chooses NOT to tour, the answer is a big fat unequivocal YES.

Get a clue.




Tour? Why? Is he the lead singer of Journey still and I just missed it?????



He could be, if he'd like to.
He could also easily tour as a solo act.

As Steve Perry's friend and Sony music insider, John Kalodner has stated repeatedly,

"if Steve Perry wanted to sing, or wants to sing at ANY TIME, any manager, promoter or agent would be ecstatic. It’s not that anyone is preventing him or standing in his way.."
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Postby LAWoman » Sun May 15, 2005 11:39 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
LAWoman wrote:You'd think Elton John would not be motivated by money, but all his records have been totally calculated to get the most cash as are his tours.


Bad example since all of Elton John's revenue has been donated to AIDS research since about 1991...


That's not what was represented in that little documentary of him that was out recently--last year I think.
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Postby LAWoman » Sun May 15, 2005 11:44 am

perryfaithful wrote:
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The_Noble_Cause wrote:
LAWoman wrote: People will do a lot of things for money.


Including replacing lead vocalists who'll no longer work.




Well IF the current Journey is making music for money, then they definitely should have KEPT Steve Perry as lead vocalist.

Lori


Hey Lor!

.....and then maybe played a few top spots instead of schleping to 60+ little shitholes! LMAO


Verizon Wireless at Irvine is not exactly a little shithole nor is the Chula Vista venue.
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