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Postby jrnyjetster » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:01 am

Andrew wrote:No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.


:lol: Ain't that the truth...
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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:00 am

I saw Journey last night, met Steve Augeri, and came away with an incredible feeling of peace about Journey. I feel that God placed him in this band so the music would not die, and the band would continue to evolve. His class and talent really shined last night. And Journey really seems to be having fun playing music.
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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:26 am

yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again.... to get you to blow a gasket and close down the place. It kills them to have to hear about Steve Augeri (great frontman, great interview, great band....Journey) and Journey's success....day after day after day..........

They get it...They really do get it....They just can't take it anymore......They must lead very boring lives, to be on the trail of somebody who wants nothing to do with any of this anymore. :lol:

:shock: Clearly none of them live in reality! :shock:


Sorry, Yak. But Steve Augeri has the charisma of a hemrroid. Seriously, he really stinks as a lead singer, and I gave him three shows to prove me wrong. Augeri is very lucky to sing classic Journey songs that were classics while he was working at The Gap.

I'd take Steve Perry as a 56-year-old singer over Steve Augeri anytime, anyplace, anywhere. Meanwhile, Steve Augeri and the current Journey are a disgrace to the real variations of Journey from 1978 to 1986.

If Journey promoted their tour as, "We will only play the songs before Steve Perry joined the band and after we kicked him out," then Journey might draw about 2,000 fans per show.

Journey has an obsure record label, lousy management and marketing, no airplay before the record release, and will have minimal airplay when the record is released. Journey has ran out of ideas such as 3 hour shows, prime seating offers for their biggest fans, and touring with other bands.

If you want a pro-current Journey message board, there is always Back Talk. If you want the truth about Journey, then post here.

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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:39 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Perry wasn't kicked out of Journey? :shock:


No, he wasn't.


JourneyTroll wrote:Journey couldn't wait a mere six more months for Steve Perry to recover fully from his near death injuries.


It was NOT near death injuries. In fact, sometimes it is called an injury and sometimes it is called a disease. And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out 'indefinately'.

JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Augeri, who is one of the least charismatic singers in rock history.


Your opinion, but MANY people disagree!


Hi Dave, my opinion is shared by many. Not the few that post here, but by the millions of rock fans that won't go to a Journey concert anymore because they know that Steve Augeri is a Steve Perry-clone. Sadly, he really does stink as a lead singer. I'd rather hear Ross sing all of Journey's songs than Steve Augeri.

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:40 am

NealIsGod wrote:I saw Journey last night, met Steve Augeri.


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:49 am

JourneyTroll wrote:
Seriously, he really stinks as a lead singer, and I gave him three shows to prove me wrong.


That's unfortunate.
Last Saturday nite he hit every single high note and then some.
It was nothing short of a vocal tour de force.

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey has an obsure record label


Sanctuary is NOT obscure.
You clearly don't have any clue as to what the hell you're talking about.
They are the vanguard of labels that support older rock artists.

JourneyTroll wrote: Journey has ran out of ideas such as 3 hour shows


How is having a 3 hour a show in any ways indicative of a band being creatively out of gas?
If they solely played 90 minute greatest hits fests, then your argument might hold some water.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:52 am

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NealIsGod wrote:I saw Journey last night, met Steve Augeri.


Details please.


Not much to tell. They were playing at a concert hall that is atached to a restauarant/bar and I happened to walk in the bar when Steve was there chatting with fans. I shook his hand, he asked me if I was going to the show, and I said, "Of course!" I told him I think he is a great singer and is doing a great job. He thanked me and I got a picture with him. He couldn't have been nicer to the fans. He just has an aura about him, very nice and likable, as you well know TNC!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:53 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Sorry, Yak. But Steve Augeri has the charisma of a hemrroid. Seriously, he really stinks as a lead singer,


YOUR opinion. And there are 100's of thousands of people who disagree with you. But that's fine. I am sure there as many that agree.

JourneyTroll wrote:I'd take Steve Perry as a 56-year-old singer over Steve Augeri anytime, anyplace, anywhere.


Based on what? You have no idea how Perry would sound, or how he would "entertain" the crowd anymore. But I agree that I would go see a show of Perry's in a second. But not necessarily with Journey. Solo? Absolutely!

JourneyTroll wrote: Meanwhile, Steve Augeri and the current Journey are a disgrace to the real variations of Journey from 1978 to 1986.


Again: YOUR opinion, but there are way too many people who disagree with you.

JourneyTroll wrote:If Journey promoted their tour as, "We will only play the songs before Steve Perry joined the band and after we kicked him out," then Journey might draw about 2,000 fans per show.


So? We all understand that Journey made great music with Perry. THAT is the enduring factor. THAT is what tells you that there were many creative, talented individuals responsible for Journey's success. Since Perry did not write the songs alone, and since 100's of thousands of fans are still enjoying those hits WITHOUT Perry singing them, I surmise that it was the SONG more than just the singer, that made Journey a success.

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey has an obsure record label, lousy management and marketing, no airplay before the record release, and will have minimal airplay when the record is released.


I can't argue with that.
But, are they acheiving the goals they set for themselves? Apparantly so.

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey has ran out of ideas such as 3 hour shows, prime seating offers for their biggest fans, and touring with other bands.


This makes NO SENSE. Journey can do any of those things at any time! And they could continue to if they choose to.

JourneyTroll wrote:If you want a pro-current Journey message board, there is always Back Talk.


No one said that was necessary. No one said you can't have a dissenting opinion. You are saying it is ok for you to post your opinion, but you don't like that we disagree with it?

JourneyTroll wrote:If you want the truth about Journey, then post here.


You offer NO TRUTHS, you offer OPINIONS!
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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:04 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey couldn't wait a mere six more months for Steve Perry to recover fully from his near death injuries.


It was NOT near death injuries. In fact, sometimes it is called an injury and sometimes it is called a disease. And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out 'indefinately'.

Dave, where you there? Steve Perry couldn't walk and was treated for his severe injuries. Under doctor's orders, Steve Perry was told to rest, so his hip would fully recover. Moreover, Perry would only make his life threatening injuries worse if he took the stage.

Not once did Neal Schon call Steve Perry or send him a card. Instead, Schon grumbled that he needed to tour immediately to start paying his alimony and credit card bills. Schon decided his insatiable thirst for money was more important than Perry's health so he said, "Let's ditch Perry."

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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:22 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Journey has an obsure record label


Sanctuary is NOT obscure.
You clearly don't have any clue as to what the hell you're talking about.
They are the vanguard of labels that support older rock artists.

Sanctuary is a do nothing record label. How come Sanctuary is getting Journey any airplay on their new CD before its release? See, I was right. I don't even consider Sanctuary a real record label.

Face it. Journey won't be touring in 2006. Time for them to put their tired act in Europe or elsewhere.

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Postby JourneyTroll » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:28 am

JourneyTroll wrote:I'd take Steve Perry as a 56-year-old singer over Steve Augeri anytime, anyplace, anywhere.


Based on what? You have no idea how Perry would sound, or how he would "entertain" the crowd anymore. But I agree that I would go see a show of Perry's in a second. But not necessarily with Journey. Solo? Absolutely!

Steve Perry would be fine if he toured. He isn't a drug user or heavy drinker. He'd be fine and better than Augeri. Augeri isn't a good singer a all. If he was, I'd be giving him praise.

JourneyTroll wrote: Meanwhile, Steve Augeri and the current Journey are a disgrace to the real variations of Journey from 1978 to 1986.


Again: YOUR opinion, but there are way too many people who disagree with you.

Dave, Journey went from a super star act to a band that is fooling themselves with Augeri. Smaller venues, no airplay, minimal press coverage, etc.

JourneyTroll wrote:If Journey promoted their tour as, "We will only play the songs before Steve Perry joined the band and after we kicked him out," then Journey might draw about 2,000 fans per show.


So? We all understand that Journey made great music with Perry. THAT is the enduring factor. THAT is what tells you that there were many creative, talented individuals responsible for Journey's success. Since Perry did not write the songs alone, and since 100's of thousands of fans are still enjoying those hits WITHOUT Perry singing them, I surmise that it was the SONG more than just the singer, that made Journey a success.

Perry's voice made the songs outstanding. I was never impressed with Journey's music without Perry's voice. His voice made Journey superstars.

JourneyTroll wrote:If you want a pro-current Journey message board, there is always Back Talk.


No one said that was necessary. No one said you can't have a dissenting opinion. You are saying it is ok for you to post your opinion, but you don't like that we disagree with it?

Dave, I welcome people that disagree with me. I am referring to certain people here that state, "Let's ignore someone that doesn't agree with us."

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Postby jrnyjetster » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:29 am

Ya know what Troll, you are certainly living up to your username this week, because you're acting like a fucking PISS ANT! Make up your freakin' mind..you either support this band or you don't, but I could give a shit less about your half assed OPINIONS with no facts to back them up.
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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:36 am

Some posts just deserve a good old fashioned eye roll. :roll:
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:51 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:Well I would not know whether Perry was uncomfortable being around his former bandmates or not, but it sure seemed to me from the speech HE gave to the fans that HE came across as quite comfortable & handled himself with such class" at the Hollywood Walk Of Fame!!!

Lori


Once he was coaxed out by none other than Mr. Augeri.




I hardly believe that Steve Augeri coaxed out Perry. It was MORE likely the"FANS HUGE RESPONSE TO Perry" that probaly made Perry feel welcome there.

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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:53 am

PROPERRY wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:Well I would not know whether Perry was uncomfortable being around his former bandmates or not, but it sure seemed to me from the speech HE gave to the fans that HE came across as quite comfortable & handled himself with such class" at the Hollywood Walk Of Fame!!!

Lori


Once he was coaxed out by none other than Mr. Augeri.



I hardly believe that Steve Augeri coaxed out Perry. It was MORE likely the"FANS HUGE RESPONSE TO Perry" that probaly made Perry feel welcome there.

Lori


Geez, is this really important to you, Lori?
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:22 am

Andrew wrote:
yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.




Well Andrew, I really WONDER if Steve Perry's management feels the same way about you. I wonder if they "laugh or yawn" every time, they have to "turn down" YOUR request for an interview with Steve Perry every year????

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:35 am

PROPERRY wrote:I hardly believe that Steve Augeri coaxed out Perry. It was MORE likely the"FANS HUGE RESPONSE TO Perry" that probaly made Perry feel welcome there.

Lori


Believe what you WANT to, you do anyway, but EYEWITNESS accounts state that Perry looked like he was shying away (I don't want to use the term cowering but it is the only word I can think of) from the fans. Steve walked over to Perry and shook his hand and said something, seemingly to pull him out (speculation, but that is the way the descriptions made me think). It sounded to me like Perry needed his "public personality" switch to be flipped on before he could fully interact...

I KNOW Perry was welcomed at the event. But I have been talking about him feeling uncomfortable on the stage with members of Journey...especially Steve and Deen. The point was attempted that 'why should Perry feel uncomfortable with Steve and Deen up there'. What I am trying to say is, whether or not there is a valid reason to feel uncomfortable does not negate that he may have.

I think it is perfectly understandable for Perry to feel uncomfortable with Steve and Deen, much like (for example) I would feel uncomfortable meeting my ex-wife's new husband....
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:41 am

PROPERRY wrote:
Andrew wrote:
yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.




Well Andrew, I really WONDER if Steve Perry's management feels the same way about you. I wonder if they "laugh or yawn" every time, they have to "turn down" YOUR request for an interview with Steve Perry every year????

Lori


Maybe Perry's lawyers DO laugh or yawn when Andrew asks for an interview with Perry. But that would be stupid! Andrew could do a LOT for Perry by way of giving him a chance to talk about his life, career, plans, goals, or even his side of the Joureny story. Andrew reaches a HUGE audience.

But sure, it could be said that the futility of Andrew asking for a Perry interview is equilevant with the futility of Perryhead POSTS! The act of posting and requesting an interview are equally as redundant. The content of "your" posts and the content of the request are equally redundant. And the fact that both continue could be laughable to others involved.

If Andrew quits asking Perry for an interview will you stop with your inane posts?


(I can't believe you tried to call Andrew out like that!!)
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Postby amaron » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:41 am

PROPERRY wrote:
Andrew wrote:
yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.




Well Andrew, I really WONDER if Steve Perry's management feels the same way about you. I wonder if they "laugh or yawn" every time, they have to "turn down" YOUR request for an interview with Steve Perry every year????

Lori

Why would Andrew need to interview Steve Perry every year? To ask him what he's not doing this year?
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Postby PROPERRY » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:47 am

amaron wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
Andrew wrote:
yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.




Well Andrew, I really WONDER if Steve Perry's management feels the same way about you. I wonder if they "laugh or yawn" every time, they have to "turn down" YOUR request for an interview with Steve Perry every year????

Lori

Why would Andrew need to interview Steve Perry every year? To ask him what he's not doing this year?



Well you must ask Andrew that question because he is the one that stated that he requests interviews from Perry's management, only to be turned down every year.

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Postby PROPERRY » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:55 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
Andrew wrote:
yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.




Well Andrew, I really WONDER if Steve Perry's management feels the same way about you. I wonder if they "laugh or yawn" every time, they have to "turn down" YOUR request for an interview with Steve Perry every year????

Lori


Maybe Perry's lawyers DO laugh or yawn when Andrew asks for an interview with Perry. But that would be stupid! Andrew could do a LOT for Perry by way of giving him a chance to talk about his life, career, plans, goals, or even his side of the Joureny story. Andrew reaches a HUGE audience.

But sure, it could be said that the futility of Andrew asking for a Perry interview is equilevant with the futility of Perryhead POSTS! The act of posting and requesting an interview are equally as redundant. The content of "your" posts and the content of the request are equally redundant. And the fact that both continue could be laughable to others involved.

If Andrew quits asking Perry for an interview will you stop with your inane posts?


(I can't believe you tried to call Andrew out like that!!)




Jrnyman,

I'm sure that IF Steve Perry ever wanted to do an interview to talk about his life, or whatever he wanted to talk about, he has PLENTY of other choices of interviewers to do that with.

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Postby NealIsGod » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:02 am

PROPERRY wrote:Jrnyman,

I'm sure that IF Steve Perry ever wanted to do an interview to talk about his life, or whatever he wanted to talk about, he has PLENTY of other choices of interviewers to do that with.

Lori


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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:16 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Believe what you WANT to, you do anyway, but EYEWITNESS accounts state that Perry looked like he was shying away (I don't want to use the term cowering but it is the only word I can think of) from the fans. Steve walked over to Perry and shook his hand and said something, seemingly to pull him out (speculation, but that is the way the descriptions made me think). It sounded to me like Perry needed his "public personality" switch to be flipped on before he could fully interact...

I KNOW Perry was welcomed at the event. But I have been talking about him feeling uncomfortable on the stage with members of Journey...especially Steve and Deen. The point was attempted that 'why should Perry feel uncomfortable with Steve and Deen up there'. What I am trying to say is, whether or not there is a valid reason to feel uncomfortable does not negate that he may have.

I think it is perfectly understandable for Perry to feel uncomfortable with Steve and Deen, much like (for example) I would feel uncomfortable meeting my ex-wife's new husband....


I'm sure Steve would have had some qualms about walking out on that stage. It was a big step for him. I'm also sure he didn't drive up to the event without every intention of appearing. I don't think Augeri's welcoming him to his own party as "coaxing" him on stage though. It was however a very "politic" thing for Augeri to, whether he consciously thought of it that way or not(yes, I realize he's been annointed "Saint Steve the Humble and Grateful") :wink: (Perhaps he genuinely is, that was meant as humor not and incendiary device). Once Steve Perry did walk out it clearly became his stage just like it was when he was performing with the band. What performer doesn't have to put on their game face when the walk out in front of a crowd? All of them do when they're there for the purpose of making an appearance. He wasn't there to "interact" with the band. He was there to appear for his fans and to show his appreciation for the star. If he hadn't shown any apprehension people would have been accusing him of being arrogant and presumptuous. JMHO :)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:24 am

PROPERRY wrote:Jrnyman,

I'm sure that IF Steve Perry ever wanted to do an interview to talk about his life, or whatever he wanted to talk about, he has PLENTY of other choices of interviewers to do that with.

Lori


I'm not.
I am sure he could approach many outlets and they could come to an agreement...but Andrew is one of the very few who are approaching Perry. Big difference in my book.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:24 am

ohsherrie wrote:I'm sure Steve would have had some qualms about walking out on that stage. It was a big step for him. I'm also sure he didn't drive up to the event without every intention of appearing. I don't think Augeri's welcoming him to his own party as "coaxing" him on stage though. It was however a very "politic" thing for Augeri to, whether he consciously thought of it that way or not(yes, I realize he's been annointed "Saint Steve the Humble and Grateful") :wink: (Perhaps he genuinely is, that was meant as humor not and incendiary device). Once Steve Perry did walk out it clearly became his stage just like it was when he was performing with the band. What performer doesn't have to put on their game face when the walk out in front of a crowd? All of them do when they're there for the purpose of making an appearance. He wasn't there to "interact" with the band. He was there to appear for his fans and to show his appreciation for the star. If he hadn't shown any apprehension people would have been accusing him of being arrogant and presumptuous. JMHO :)


That is a lot of words to simply say "I agree"...:D
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:55 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:I'm sure Steve would have had some qualms about walking out on that stage. It was a big step for him. I'm also sure he didn't drive up to the event without every intention of appearing. I don't think Augeri's welcoming him to his own party as "coaxing" him on stage though. It was however a very "politic" thing for Augeri to, whether he consciously thought of it that way or not(yes, I realize he's been annointed "Saint Steve the Humble and Grateful") :wink: (Perhaps he genuinely is, that was meant as humor not and incendiary device). Once Steve Perry did walk out it clearly became his stage just like it was when he was performing with the band. What performer doesn't have to put on their game face when the walk out in front of a crowd? All of them do when they're there for the purpose of making an appearance. He wasn't there to "interact" with the band. He was there to appear for his fans and to show his appreciation for the star. If he hadn't shown any apprehension people would have been accusing him of being arrogant and presumptuous. JMHO :)


That is a lot of words to simply say "I agree"...:D



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Postby heardonthestreet » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:13 am

Perry gave a great interview to his fans, after the WOF affair. He answered all the important questions, and in a way that made, me for one, very happy.
What more could Andrew have asked him?
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Postby yak » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:33 am

heardonthestreet wrote: Perry gave a great interview to his fans, after the WOF affair.


Wasn't that the interview where he approved the questions ahead of time? :roll:

heardonthestreet wrote: He answered all the important questions, and in a way that made, me for one, very happy


Except when he was asked about his daughter, in his Fan Asylum interview, and he made a whole bunch of inane comments, and never did answer the question about his daughter. Kind of like he's ashamed to admit her existence or something.:?:


"Do you have children? Getty images incorrectly reported that Patty Jenkins is your daughter.
SP: Children? I'd have no personal life if I talk about my personal life.
Patty Jenkins?.... is not my daughter. She's my sister. No...just kidding ...she's my attorney.....NO, NO just kidding again..........she's my midnight rendezvous...YUM!!.....No - she's a good friend that is very talented and,
yes...... thanks for pointing it out........... she is much younger than I."



heardonthestreet wrote: What more could Andrew have asked him?


Why he won't acknowledge his daughter?.....

Oh yes, and What does he think now that Journey has moved on, the big shoes have been filled, and the band is packing venues once again? :!:
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Postby Andrew » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:35 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Perry gave a great interview to his fans, after the WOF affair. He answered all the important questions, and in a way that made, me for one, very happy.
What more could Andrew have asked him?


That "interview" was a fluff piece at best...
I'd be honored to fire some real questions at the great man.

Perhaps one day...perhaps not.
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Postby perryfaithful » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:55 am

Andrew wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Perry gave a great interview to his fans, after the WOF affair. He answered all the important questions, and in a way that made, me for one, very happy.
What more could Andrew have asked him?


That "interview" was a fluff piece at best...
I'd be honored to fire some real questions at the great man.

Perhaps one day...perhaps not.


With ALL due respect, please

Why Andrew, do you ask fans of Journey/Perry to MOVE ON from Perry, and quite sarcastic at times..........YET admit that you ask for a Perry interview yearly AND ask about Perry in your interviews with present members of Journey????
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