It's a shame what it's come to...

[styxman]

no, don't care much about Russian stuff...

It just seems that since we don't get as much of any info pertaining to that kind of stuff, we only hear about "State" owned stuff, mostly in Britian. I'm only asking because I don't know. I only wish we had more ad free radio here. I dont' keep up with radio or tv stuff in other countries though. I'm only used to hearing things like BBC1, 2, 3 etc. Not meaning to lump them together if they aren't one and the same company though.

British Broadcasting Company...paid for by us licence payers, that's why there are no adverts and we have the right to question what is played on Radio and TV, it seems to work okay!
I know what you mean about most North American people not knowing anything outside the U.S. I'm a stickler for Geography and knowing about different countries when I can find the info out. I have that very problem with people not knowing where I'm travelling to when I leave the country. I figure it's sometimes a good thing, then they REALLY don't know where I am at. If people outside the U.S. think we here are aloof to those kinds of things, they're mostly right.

I'm as guilty as any American I need to see a map just to refresh my memory...Us Brits just seem to know where NY and Florida are!!

I'm glad that Rock bands make it to "far away places" than where they come from. The more fans the merrier.

Ditto

oh, and yes, classic rock for some reason does sound better in a classic Mustang. ('68 convertible here)

[whocares]

thanks for "amusing" me styxman

[styxman]

better to amuse than piss off!!

[knox]

Heck, I live in Tennessee and still get confused as to where, border to border speaking, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado are. I know they are "over there somewhere" LOL.

[Saint John]

I'm not real sure where to start. OK, how about with the knucklehead who wanted to know what Journey' legacy was. Hmmm, the most popular band of the 80's. A group whose Greatest Hits just past 14 million. 14 frickin' milliion. Escape is about to go over 10 million and Frontiers is at 6 million. If Perry wouldn't have scrapped Only The Young and Ask The Lonely from Raised On Radio it too would have been around the 6 million mark.

Now to Augeri. He was here for one thing and one thing only. Well at least initially. He was here to get back all the Journey fans they once had. When Arrival tanked due to lack of promotion their label dumped them. At that point, I really feel the band decided to become a touring act. They turned into "The Dirty Dozen" touring machine. Year after of singing Perry's songs destroyed the man's voice. They threw just enough new songs in to pacify the new fans. They used him like a disposable camera. JSS will breathe new life into a band that has basically been dormant since Arrival, which was a pretty good album.

If the band ever wants true record sales I see them as having two choices. Get Perry back or hire someone contemporary. I see, and stress I, someone like Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20 as a perfect fit. He would bring a TON of new fans. He is just an example, but I think he'd be a perfect fit. Their re-emergance would be overnight. It's just an example though.

[A Fire Inside]

So the band's legacy, from two people so far, is that they could once sell millions of albums.

Hmm.

[NealIsGod]

If Perry wouldn't have scrapped Only The Young and Ask The Lonely from Raised On Radio it too would have been around the 6 million mark.

Lost your cred right there. They were left off of Frontiers.

[NealIsGod]

When Arrival tanked due to lack of promotion their label dumped them.

How about the fact that the album leaked on Napster so many fans already had it?

[NealIsGod]

They turned into "The Dirty Dozen" touring machine.

A common gripe of many fans of all "dinosaur" bands. Journey is no diff.

[whocares]

Whatever the case, they need(ed) a singer who CAN continuously sing the dirty dozen, and write new stuff, shoudl they decide to continue. Having someone who can sing their own style such as JSS, much less write his in his own range, is a great start. I got the impressions that Arrival and Generations, even stuff written by S.A. were written in the same way they were for Perry's range, not for Augeri's range.

NIG, would you agree that the leaking of Arrival was an inside job?

[knox]

If Perry wouldn't have scrapped Only The Young and Ask The Lonely from Raised On Radio it too would have been around the 6 million mark.

Close, but those two songs were to be on the Frontiers album, but got replaced by Back Talk and Troubled Child. HUGE mistake, in my opinion. Had the album been released as originally intended, along with the Scarab artwork, it would have rivalled Escape. Along with Separate Ways, Only The Young and Ask The Lonely would have been huge hits on the radio.

I still can't believe those songs were tanked.

[Saint John]

When Arrival tanked due to lack of promotion their label dumped them.

How about the fact that the album leaked on Napster so many fans already had it?[/quote

The first post you wrote about is correct. I simply confused the albums...it was a mistake, hardly enough to ruin my credibility I think. And as for Napster, I don't think it had as much of an effect as you think. If Journey fans would have wanted it, they still would have purchased it. And the leak didn't spoil radio play. The fact that the masses didn't really like it, did.

[AR]

From my avatar and screen name you can tell my opinion of Arrival.

The second I heard it, I knew that it was the type of material I wanted to hear over what I heard on Trial By Fire.

I knew it wouldn't sell though.

[Liam]

I'd have advertising anyday if it meant I could go for a spin in a Mustang...super cool!

LOL...well..Unfortunatly, it's not a '64 1/2. THAT'S my dream car. But I like my '97. It's a V6 that drives like an V8.

[i]

East Tennessee must be behind the times to the tune of 1986. Put on anything other than a classic rock/oldies station in the Washington, DC/Baltimore area and you will NOT hear any Journey on the radio.
That's a fact. Try listening to them online if you don't believe me. Report back when you hear anything. MAYBE, during the oldies electric lunch or something if you are really lucky. DC 101 and 98 Rock are the biggest stations in this area.

Actually, we get 98 too, and I hear Journey on there once and a while. I'm always surprised by it, lol.

and our other classic rock station plays preEscape Journey a lot. In fact, they just played People and Places, which I had never heard on the radio before.. pretty cool

[i]

If Perry wouldn't have scrapped Only The Young and Ask The Lonely from Raised On Radio it too would have been around the 6 million mark.

Lost your cred right there. They were left off of Frontiers.

And it wasn't Perry on this one, it was the brass that wanted to sell those tunes to movie soundtracks.

major misstep, imo


He did scrap Smitty and Ross from ROR though, lol

which was another brilliant move.

[Abitaman]

Legacy???? His legacy is singing to tape and dragging Journey's rep to a new low. They are gonna have to fight like hell to clear themselves of this mess. His type of voice would never last trying to sing over Schon's guitar volume.

His legacy is enabling Journey to continue when Perry couldn't. The man deserves a ton of respect.

well said

[Abitaman]

Before you tell me that music is different today, tell me why we still hear Don't Stop Believin, Wheel In The Sky, Any Way You Want It, Open Arms, Faithfully, Stone In Love, etc... on the radio. I am not talking oldies stations, either. The mainstream stations in East Tennessee play these songs, and not just in an "80's lunch hour".

East Tennessee must be behind the times to the tune of 1986. Put on anything other than a classic rock/oldies station in the Washington, DC/Baltimore area and you will NOT hear any Journey on the radio.

That's a fact. Try listening to them online if you don't believe me. Report back when you hear anything. MAYBE, during the oldies electric lunch or something if you are really lucky. DC 101 and 98 Rock are the biggest stations in this area.

West TN plays alot of Journey and Styx-ERIC

[Manarocks]

Legacy???? His legacy is singing to tape and dragging Journey's rep to a new low. They are gonna have to fight like hell to clear themselves of this mess. His type of voice would never last trying to sing over Schon's guitar volume.

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;^)

Come on Johnroxx, I forgot you are a BT'er that explains it