Irvine 6-26-05 Show

[The_Noble_Cause]

I just don't roll with the notion that a band should be hung in effigy for daring to play a new song.

Depends on the song.
"Faith in the Heartland" fits the Journey mold so a decent sized amount of concertgoers hang around for it.
"Gone Crazy" is such a radical departure from what people expect of Journey that the whole places clears out.

[Red13JoePa]

I just don't roll with the notion that a band should be hung in effigy for daring to play a new song.

Depends on the song.
"Faith in the Heartland" fits the Journey mold so a decent sized amount of concertgoers hang around for it.
"Gone Crazy" is such a radical departure from what people expect of Journey that the whole places clears out.

Agreed, but again they were warned aplenty that the setlist would be nuts/

[A Fire Inside]

THANK YOU JRNYJUNKY for uploading these! I will give them a listen later... really appreciate it.

[junky]

THANK YOU JRNYJUNKY for uploading these! I will give them a listen later... really appreciate it.

No problem.

I just put disc 2 in my post on page 2 of this thread.

[tupchurch]

Hey Guys,

You are welcome!! I put the show up at Guitars101 and I want to spread the wealth of Journey shows. I don't appreciate someone copying the links and posting them here. Not cool! But anyway, it is done so enjoy the rare set list. And Deen rocks on Somethin' to Hide.

Terry

[Liam]

Hey Guys,

You are welcome!! I put the show up at Guitars101 and I want to spread the wealth of Journey shows. I don't appreciate someone copying the links and posting them here. Not cool! But anyway, it is done so enjoy the rare set list. And Deen rocks on Somethin' to Hide.

Terry

I BELIEVE I thanked you on g101 but a thank you from Here as well. (Texx151 on G101).

[Granny]

Hey guys,

Here is the whole Irvine show.

Enjoy!

disc 1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EF20FRKL

disc 2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HHUKWXG8

disc 3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7W47NPEU

Thanks for uploading these...just downloaded them and will listen later..dinnertime and need to get ready for tomorrow......Journey Show. Waaahoooooooooooo...

[junky]

Hey Guys,

You are welcome!! I put the show up at Guitars101 and I want to spread the wealth of Journey shows. I don't appreciate someone copying the links and posting them here. Not cool! But anyway, it is done so enjoy the rare set list. And Deen rocks on Somethin' to Hide.

Terry

Nobody copied your links, if you'll notice, the links here are different.

If it's a problem, I will remove them.

[A Fire Inside]

Hey Guys,

You are welcome!! I put the show up at Guitars101 and I want to spread the wealth of Journey shows. I don't appreciate someone copying the links and posting them here. Not cool! But anyway, it is done so enjoy the rare set list. And Deen rocks on Somethin' to Hide.

Terry

Nobody copied your links, if you'll notice, the links here are different.

If it's a problem, I will remove them.

People can't put things on the Internet and expect them to stay where they want.

Screw 'im.

[tupchurch]

You guys are right, I thought about it some. I am just glad everyone can get the music

Terry

[ArnelRox]

Thanks for the boot. Um did Augeri sing? Sorry just got thru listening to Disc One & he doesn't show up on there AT ALL except to speak.

EDIT: OMG just got to Feeling That Way. This is THE absolute worst ever version of this song I have ever ever ever heard. & it's one of my favorites. Yuck. Cain channel Rolie? Not in a million lifetimes. But frigging Augeri sounds like crapola. Cain sounds much much much better than him? WTF was Augeri doing? I used to have an ounce of pity for him. Now I wanna crucify the fucker for ruining this song & hurting my ears. He shoulda stepped his ass down right there, right then. Fucker is croaky, straining the hell out of his always thin lousy-assed voice, flatter than a pancake, unable to hit any note & sounding like a squeakie toy for cats. This is disgraceful. I'm hopping mad. Oh fuck it gets worse. Anytime. Shuddupayaface Augeri. What the fuck is that caterwauling of "Anytime"? Damn I'm glad he did shut up. How how how could this band not have fired him for sounding this way? They had the BEST. Ok I gotta get off this soapbox. Holy shit Butterfly. A shitty song to begin w/& he croaks the fuck out of it. He SUXXXXXXX. Is it any wonder the crowd boos them? Fuck I'm booing sitting here at home. I think I'll turn off this crap boot. Unless it's Deen. He's the ONLY saving grace.

Deano, we owe u more than we realize. Way more. Thank u for breaking this & making this band get rid of this lousy wailing flat voiced screeching fool.

[NoMoreTails]

Steve was obviously having problems on the portions I've listened to so far, but I really expected it to be constant (as he sounds ok on parts while his voice cracks or is weak on others) and possibly worse overall, based on the reviews from last year; based on what Neal, Jon, and Steve said to Andrew about the first few shows of that tour; and based on Deano's remarks about that particular show ever since. If it weren't for the hindsight of how things have ended up, I would have thought he was just rusty, this being the first show of that tour. Perhaps that was the case to a certain extent, but pushing himself for a few shows when he wasn't tour ready led to greater problems.
I wonder if this recording is indicative of the state of his voice from the last shows he did with the band this year or were his performances and the condition of his voice worse?

[JrnyScarab]

Steve was obviously having problems on the portions I've listened to so far, but I really expected it to be constant (as he sounds ok on parts while his voice cracks or is weak on others) and possibly worse overall, based on the reviews from last year; based on what Neal, Jon, and Steve said to Andrew about the first few shows of that tour; and based on Deano's remarks about that particular show ever since. If it weren't for the hindsight of how things have ended up, I would have thought he was just rusty, this being the first show of that tour. Perhaps that was the case to a certain extent, but pushing himself for a few shows when he wasn't tour ready led to greater problems.
I wonder if this recording is indicative of the state of his voice from the last shows he did with the band this year or were his performances and the condition of his voice worse?

I've been listening to some older bootleg shows from 2000 & 2001 and he sounds pretty bad on those. I did listen to a Casino bootleg from 2002 and he was very good on that one. Almost as good as the 2001 DVD. It seems like his performances were all over the map. Some good, a few great and a bunch of not so good. So, this years problems were evident in the older boots as well.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I can hear TNC defiantly cracking his knuckles as he prepares his rebuttal...

Nah, at this stage it wouldn't even be beating a dead horse, just skeletal remnants with assorted tufts of fur.

Look. I like all of Augeri's previous works (Tall Stories, Shine) but "Believe is a terrible song.
Cain must've been aghast when Augeri showed that to him.
No chorus, no bridge...just a big pile of monotonous shit.

Like my ten year old cousin incessantly hitting a keyboard with a tinker toy. Just one damned keyboard part heard again and again and again until u r compelled to hit 'skip' (or else suffer the fatal consequences of ur head spontaneously imploding ala Scanners).

[The_Noble_Cause]

Holy shit Butterfly. A shitty song to begin w/& he croaks the fuck out of it. He SUXXXXXXX. Is it any wonder the crowd boos them? Fuck I'm booing sitting here at home. I think I'll turn off this crap boot. Unless it's Deen. He's the ONLY saving grace.

I remember the reviews of opening night. The consensus was that "Butterfly" was the only song Augeri sang half-decently. I figured it was because the song is chiefly low range. Haven't heard this boot. Not sure I want to.

[Lula]

I'm so happy to have the pre-Perry stuff and the songs Deen sang. I was too close to the stage to hear the vocals as clear as most. There are parts, many parts, that have caused me to cringe and ultimately skip the song. With that said, I tend to feel sad rather than angry while listening to this boot. At this point I think bashing Augeri does nothing but keep an unfortunate time alive and in the present, rather than moving forward. I suppose having us all discuss the performance makes it inevitable that bashing will occur, I only hope it does not continue. Perhaps I'm just being too sensitive, but oh well, that is me.

[junky]

Lula,

You're not being too sensitive.

If people can't discuss this show without bashing Augeri, I will remove discs 2&3 from megaupload as it was not my intention.

[Liam]

I don't think any of this can be considered "bashing", but more of a discussion on how bad he sounded that night. Sounded like, on most songs, he just got finished puking razor blades.
No bash here...just how I'm hearing it.

[Lula]

I don't think any of this can be considered "bashing", but more of a discussion on how bad he sounded that night. Sounded like, on most songs, he just got finished puking razor blades.
No bash here...just how I'm hearing it.

Not necessarily saying that bashing is ocurring, just that I hope it does not. After reading a few harsh lines in this thread, I became leery. I am not denying that the vocals are bad in many places, just don't want to revisit the past.

[Liam]

I don't think any of this can be considered "bashing", but more of a discussion on how bad he sounded that night. Sounded like, on most songs, he just got finished puking razor blades.
No bash here...just how I'm hearing it.

Not necessarily saying that bashing is ocurring, just that I hope it does not. After reading a few harsh lines in this thread, I became leery. I am not denying that the vocals are bad in many places, just don't want to revisit the past.

Got'cha.
LOVIN' Nickel & Dime right now. I was pissed when they didn't play it in Houston..but this is cool.

[ArnelRox]

If people can't discuss this show without bashing Augeri, I will remove discs 2&3 from megaupload as it was not my intention.

I assume ur referring to me here. I can't discuss this show w/out saying negative things about the way Augeri sounds. Sorry. I was shocked to hear it. If u consider that "bashing" then I'll respect ur wishes by staying out of this thread from now on. If u want, I'll also edit my post where I reacted to his voice & said those negative things. Does that work for u?

[The_Noble_Cause]

If Perry sucks, say so.
If Augeri sucks, say so.
If Soto sucks, say so.
These are the rules we formerly lived and died by around here.


As long as your honest and not just carping for carping's sake.

[ArnelRox]

If Perry sucks, say so.
If Augeri sucks, say so.
If Soto sucks, say so.
These are the rules we formerly lived and died by around here.


As long as your honest and not just carping for carping's sake.

I'm not TNC. I think u know me better than that. I have actually said my piece about all 3 of the abovementioned on other occasions.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm not TNC. I think u know me better than that.

I know ur not.
I'm speaking for everyone.
Even when this place was the zenith of Augeri-styeria, nobody was afraid to call out a bad performance for what it was.
That shouldn't change now.

[A Fire Inside]

Thanks for the boot. Um did Augeri sing? Sorry just got thru listening to Disc One & he doesn't show up on there AT ALL except to speak.

On that tour he generally stayed backstage or on guitar until just before intermission.

[junky]

If people can't discuss this show without bashing Augeri, I will remove discs 2&3 from megaupload as it was not my intention.

I assume ur referring to me here. I can't discuss this show w/out saying negative things about the way Augeri sounds. Sorry. I was shocked to hear it. If u consider that "bashing" then I'll respect ur wishes by staying out of this thread from now on. If u want, I'll also edit my post where I reacted to his voice & said those negative things. Does that work for u?

No, JourneyRox, I'm not referring to you.

Lula brought up a good point how this thread may go, so I wanted to nip it in the bud.

And I do agree that Augeri sounds terrible and probably shouldn't have preformed with his voice in that condition.

I haven't even listened to the last part of the show, and doubt I will.

Sorry for the confusion, your comments are welcome.

[ArnelRox]

I'm not TNC. I think u know me better than that.

I know ur not.
I'm speaking for everyone.
Even when this place was the zenith of Augeri-styeria, nobody was afraid to call out a bad performance for what it was.
That shouldn't change now.

"Dah-link...u have such a vay vith vords!"

Oh & I agree.

[Lula]

Certainly didn't mean to ruffle feathers here

[brywool]

Cain channel Rolie? Not in a million lifetimes. But frigging Augeri sounds like crapola. Cain sounds much much much better than him? WTF was Augeri doing? I used to have an ounce of pity for him. Now I wanna crucify the fucker for ruining this song & hurting my ears. He shoulda stepped his ass down right there, right then. Fucker is croaky, straining the hell out of his always thin lousy-assed voice, flatter than a pancake, unable to hit any note & sounding like a squeakie toy for cats. This is disgraceful. I'm hopping mad. Oh fuck it gets worse. Anytime. Shuddupayaface Augeri. What the fuck is that caterwauling of "Anytime"? Damn I'm glad he did shut up. How how how could this band not have fired him for sounding this way? They had the BEST. Ok I gotta get off this soapbox. Holy shit Butterfly. A shitty song to begin w/& he croaks the fuck out of it. He SUXXXXXXX. Is it any wonder the crowd boos them? Fuck I'm booing sitting here at home. I think I'll turn off this crap boot. Unless it's Deen. He's the ONLY saving grace.

Deano, we owe u more than we realize. Way more. Thank u for breaking this & making this band get rid of this lousy wailing flat voiced screeching fool.

I think Cain's voice is pretty friggin' close to Rolie's on those songs actually.

As for what Augeri was doing, well "the show must go on" and he did the best he could. I'd rather hear this boot than the first ones with JSS any day of the week. Thank GOD he got rest and sounds pretty good now. Augeri was definitely having problems, Duh. Tell us something that hasn't been talked about every day for the last year. Doesn't mean he sucks and is shit and is a fool. Means he was having voice issues. Singers have had them forever. Perry had them and he dropped out -seemingly forever. Augeri had them and he dropped out. Steven Tyler had them. Elton John had them. Friggin' Dolly Parton had them. Julie Friggin' Poppins Andrews had them and now has no voice. It's not that rare as far as singers go. Shit happens. And he's gone. You're happy now. Gees. Let it go.
You can't bring up anything here because somebody's gonna get all shitty on yer ass.

"Listen to Open Arms" from the same show-Flawless by the way. I have yet to hear the current singer do that at all. "Lights" also was great. Granted, those songs were the best that day and the rest are pretty damned bad (I agree with that), but you seem to take it like it hurts you personally.
In the immortal words of John Lennon "It's only a rock band."

The crowd booed because they said they were playing new stuff. Not because of his performance or Butterfly.

By the way, the first time they booed was when Augeri said that they were gonna play some new stuff. This was after "Stone in Love" and they quit booing as soon as he said it was for the troops. They went into "Harms Way" . When Neal said "new stuff" before "Self Defense", they booed again. "Butterfly" was still a few songs off. When he said "new stuff" again before "Butterfly", people booed again. After they played "Butterfly", I didn't hear booing. When he was introduced, I didn't hear booing. It was ONLY when the band talked about playing "new" songs. Neal mentioned the same thing in interviews (and on stage) that nobody wanted to hear new stuff. They hadn't even HEARD the songs yet, but they weren't even willing to in the least. Maybe it was because they spent the first hour listening to the obscure stuff from the pre-Perry albums with dopey lyrics about volcanoes, etc...?


I remember when I saw Lou Gramm with Journey. He was definitely having vocal problems. The crowd was brutal. It was after the show I heard that he was recovering from some brain tumor or something. I felt bad for the guy. I feel bad for Augeri too.

Regarding the post about if someone sucks, say so.
First of all, it's not necessary, but just because a singer is having problems doesn't mean that they once weren't great and that the suckiness blows their previous contributions away. When I first heard JSS with Journey. I thought he sucked with a capital S. But I'm still giving him a chance because I hear improvement every time I hear him. I think he'll be fine. With Augeri, I heard him for years where he was great. Now, he's not. Doesn't mean he's shit. Same goes for Perry.

I was just flabbergasted that the band's audience could be so rude to them at a show. Checking out some of the posters on this board, I can see that it's pretty common.

[yulog]

He sounds fine on the third disc except 1-2 songs the second disc sure sounds mysterious.